Wright camp are keen on Calzaghe

[BG91]

Ronald "Winky" Wright's trainer, Dan Birmingham, has welcomed Joe Calzaghe's assertion the two fighters could meet in the first half of 2008.

With Calzaghe's top target, Bernard Hopkins, unlikely to face him until summer 2008, the Welshman has targeted a major fight in March or April.

He has put forward Wright's name and Birmingham is keen on the match.

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[China_hand_Joe]

You would get 8/13 on Calzaghe beating Hopkins. It is a shame that isn't happening next.

[Smazz20]

Now this would be the most pointless fight for Calzaghe. What the fuck is Wright gonna offer him at this stage of their careers? Nothing.

Wright should drop back to middle and finish his career there.

[lefty]

Now this would be the most pointless fight for Calzaghe. What the fuck is Wright gonna offer him at this stage of their careers? Nothing.

Wright should drop back to middle and finish his career there.

I think you'd be surprised, Southpaws have trouble with southpaws, Wright is a solid chance for the upset if this fight comes off.

[Fedor Em]

I think you'd be surprised, Southpaws have trouble with southpaws, Wright is a solid chance for the upset if this fight comes off.

Southpaws have even more trouble with Hopkins.

[KayEpps]

Don't sleep on Winky.

A great defense vs. a great offense - this should make for a very interesting fight. Plus Winky is forcing the action now. There's no way I see Calzaghe walking over Winky. I actually think it would be a harder fight than the B-Hop fight. Two Southpaws going at it - very good fight - if it's made.

[BewareofDawg]

As a Winky fan, I'm actually ecstatic about this fight. I'm worried as fuck, and think Calzaghe COULD offer Wright alot of problems but shit, lets do it.

[China_hand_Joe]

I think you'd be surprised, Southpaws have trouble with southpaws,
So Wright will have trouble with the southpaw Calzaghe then?

[BewareofDawg]

If Winky beats him, he's P4P #1.....no doubt.

[Smazz20]

If Winky beats him, he's P4P #1.....no doubt.


and if Calzaghe beats Wright?

[ThePlugInBabies]

winky's legs go with the extra weight as we saw with b-hop, he gassed badly in that fight. pretty poor choice by ******, then again what's new.

easy calzaghe UD.

[BewareofDawg]

Winky actually wanted Calzaghe after the Lacy fight if you recall. I believe he mentioned it in an interview.

[BewareofDawg]

and if Calzaghe beats Wright?
Winky is smaller then Calzaghe and Cal is currently above him on most P4P lists, so on a P4P sense......he should win. He would not be #1 :good

[VIP]

Don't sleep on Winky in this matchup.

[Smazz20]

Winky is smaller then Calzaghe and Cal is currently above him on most P4P lists, so on a P4P sense......he should win. He would not be #1 :good


exactly. so it makes no sense for Calzaghe to fight a naturally smaller man. Calzaghe should be fighting at 175 for his last2-3 fights. Wright shouldnt feature in his plans.

Although I know hat your saying. If Wright fought and beat Calzaghe, it'd be ahuge achievment for him. I'd actually rather see him fight Kessler if he decided to fight at 168

[Jose FM]

Lets go Winky!

[Jose FM]

and if Calzaghe beats Wright?
He would be beating Hopkins' chopped liver. :lol:

[ThePlugInBabies]

b-hop talking about calzaghe.

joe will be in las vegas this weekend for the hatton-mayweather fight and of course so shall b-hop, interesting.....

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[Smazz20]

He would be beating Hopkins' chopped liver. :lol:

exactly why this is a terrible match up

[Jose FM]

exactly why this is a terrible match up
Nah but in all seriousness id rather Calzaghe fight Wright than him going on to fight another Manfredo or Bika. Wright can fight. Something to point out about Winky. Everytime Winky has challenged for a title at a weight division Winky has either lost or Drawn the first time around (Vargas, Taylor, Hopkins,) the second time however has been very game (Frazier, Mosley) since his loss to Nard, i think he comes out very very game for Calzaghe also considering that hes already fought at a higher division hell probably know how to handle the weight issues for next time.

[lefty]

So Wright will have trouble with the southpaw Calzaghe then?

Yeah that's right, i'm making the point that this could be a very tough fight for Calzaghe, possibly harder than Hopkins and what he had with Kessler due to Wright fighting southpaw and his tight defence, Calzaghe seems to sometimes get frustrated and impatient against unorthodox guys, Wright will frustrate him no doubt.

[Smazz20]

Nah but in all seriousness id rather Calzaghe fight Wright than him going on to fight another Manfredo or Bika. Wright can fight. Something to point out about Winky. Everytime Winky has challenged for a title at a weight division Winky has either lost or Drawn the first time around (Vargas, Taylor, Hopkins,) the second time however has been very game (Frazier, Mosley) since his loss to Nard, i think he comes out very very game for Calzaghe also considering that hes already fought at a higher division hell probably know how to handle the weight issues for next time.


Still, Calzaghe has already stated he'd move up to 175. What would everyone think, if he fought Winky at 168 instead of BHOP at 175? I wouldn't even bother trying to defend that choice. Woods, Dawson, BHOP, even Erdei are better choice opponents.

[robpalmer135]

Wright is the only guy around Middle and Light Heavy i can see causng Calzaghe problems!

[mike464]

If Winky beats him, he's P4P #1.....no doubt.Are you joking?

[BewareofDawg]

Are you joking?
Why? :huh

[mike464]

He lost his last fight.

[robpalmer135]

Yeh if Wright beat Calzaghe and Mayweather quites, Wright will be numero uno because Calzaghe is nubmer 2!

[yesihavearm]

He lost his last fight.

Yeah but before that fight he hadnt lost a fight in over 10years.

and if he beats the p4p no2 in JC then he has a good case for number 1 if Gayweather dont go well

[BewareofDawg]

He lost his last fight.
We're talking P4P here. He lost his last fight in a weight class 15lbs above his best. The weight was visibly and obviously a problem for him there and he still made it a good, close fight. If he makes adjustments, stays 15lbs above his best weight and beats Calzaghe, who is much bigger and recognized by most as top4 P4P fighter in the world it is an amazing accomplishment and would clearly merit a top P4P spot :deal

[mike464]

Yeh if Wright beat Calzaghe and Mayweather quites, Wright will be numero uno because Calzaghe is nubmer 2!But Calzaghe isn't number 2. What if Froch beat Calzaghe would that make him number 1?

[gutto]

imo this would be a great fight wright will test Calzaghe for sure the fact there both southpaws makes this real interesting for me. I really hope this fight gets sorted. B hop imo 100% fights winer of tito and rjj
Taylor & pavlik tied up with there rematch. I would rather watch winky vs calzaghe the calzaghe vs woods

[BewareofDawg]

It would be like Pac moving up and losing a close fight to Cotto, then coming up and beating Floyd. Would he be P4P #1? I mean, he lost to Cotto! :nut

[mike464]

Well Floyd is a level or two above Calzaghe plus remember Wright didn't beat Taylor.

[yesihavearm]

But Calzaghe isn't number 2. What if Froch beat Calzaghe would that make him number 1?

Yes he is 2.

Winky is still top10 for me, so hes close enough to move up.

Froch isnt even top 20 so why would he be 1 ?

Use your head

[BewareofDawg]

Well Floyd is a level or two above Calzaghe plus remember Wright didn't beat Taylor.
Yes. He did. Why is there no objectivity when doing P4P. Why should Winky even be dropped from his P4P spot for losing a close UD to BHOP in a much higher weight? Like I said, If Pac lost to Cotto, I don't think he should drop in the P4P rankings at all. If Floyd lost to Taylor or Wright, he shouldn't drop. If Calzaghe lost to Chris Byrd, he shouldn't drop. This is P4P, use your heads :deal

[mike464]

Clearly Hopkins and Pacquiao should be above Calzaghe so Calzaghe is at best number 4. If Wright beats Calzaghe you could argue for a top 5 spot.

[yesihavearm]

Clearly Hopkins and Pacquiao should be above Calzaghe so Calzaghe is at best number 4. If Wright beats Calzaghe you could argue for a top 5 spot.

Mate the majority of people on here have JC as number 2.

ESPN has JC at number2

boxingconfidential has JC at number 2

Even pacDbest has JC at number 2, behind pac but ahead of pbf.

[David UK]

Still, Calzaghe has already stated he'd move up to 175. What would everyone think, if he fought Winky at 168 instead of BHOP at 175? I wouldn't even bother trying to defend that choice. Woods, Dawson, BHOP, even Erdei are better choice opponents.

I agree. Stinky is nothing special even at Middleweight, let alone SM.

However, that's were the most money is, so that's who JC wants to fight. Simple as that

[BewareofDawg]

Clearly Hopkins and Pacquiao should be above Calzaghe so Calzaghe is at best number 4. If Wright beats Calzaghe you could argue for a top 5 spot.
Wright was universally recognized as #3 before he moved up to fight Hopkins :deal how quickly you forget, your worse than a selfish girlfriend :lol: "what have you done for me lately?" ring-a-bell? :rofl If he beats another fighter inside the top 4 P4P at a HIGHER weight, he at least, at the very least gets his #3 spot back :deal

[mike464]

Yes. He did. Why is there no objectivity when doing P4P. Why should Winky even be dropped from his P4P spot for losing a close UD to BHOP in a much higher weight? Like I said, If Pac lost to Cotto, I don't think he should drop in the P4P rankings at all. If Floyd lost to Taylor or Wright, he shouldn't drop. If Calzaghe lost to Chris Byrd, he shouldn't drop. This is P4P, use your heads :dealYes but where does it stop? Calzaghe loses against Byrd, Haye, Maskaev and Klitschko does he move down at all? If Pacquiao loses against Cotto, Mayweather and Hatton does he move down?

[BewareofDawg]

Yes but where does it stop? Calzaghe loses against Byrd, Haye, Maskaev and Klitschko does he move down at all? If Pacquiao loses against Cotto, Mayweather and Hatton does he move down?
No. I don't think so.

[mike464]

Wright was universally recognized as #3 before he moved up to fight Hopkins :deal how quickly you forget, your worse than a selfish girlfriend :lol: "what have you done for me lately?" ring-a-bell? :rofl If he beats another fighter inside the top 4 P4P at a HIGHER weight, he at least, at the very least gets his #3 spot back :dealWell he may get his number three spot back but elevating him to number 1 would be crazy.

[mike464]

No. I don't think so.But if he beat Cotto then lost against Mayweather and Hatton he's move down overall wouldn't he?

[mike464]

Where would you put Hatton if he beat Floyd?

[BewareofDawg]

But if he beat Cotto then lost against Mayweather and Hatton he's move down overall wouldn't he?
If Pac beat Cotto, I would have him at #1. If he then lost to Mayweather and Hatton????? Its tough because at that time their might be other fighters with achievments meritting place, but in reality, Pac losing to those guys in no ways is an indication that he has declined at all and isn't as good as them on a "P4P sense", so yeah maybe he might fall. I concede to your point, you cannot keep someone on top who is losing, even if they are losing to bigger guys, but in reality it means fuck-all....but for "the list" it has to be done. :good

[BewareofDawg]

Where would you put Hatton if he beat Floyd?
If Hatton beats Floyd, I'd put him at #1. He is coming up form 140lbs and beating the P4P #1. Then if Wright beats Cal, he is #2 and Pac drops to #3.

[eastern eagle]

Dawg, I can't fault your logic but this P4P is utter crap. How long has it been going on? Did it all start with the alphabet belts?

[BewareofDawg]

Dawg, I can't fault your logic but this P4P is utter crap. How long has it been going on? Did it all start with the alphabet belts?
I think it goes all the way back to Sugar Ray Robinson. I don't know, it is crap though, and frustrating a bit.

[Chert]

winky has a good chance in this fight. they'll be fighting at 168, right? that's just a division above winky's natural weight unlike in the hopkins fight where he fought 2 divisions up.

winky has one of the best D in boxing. and calzaghe even if he's the bigger fighter won't have a power advantage over winky. calzaghe will rely on activity and volume punching while winky will offset this with superior D and over-all better skills. this will be a close fight. i won't be surprised if this ends in a very close split decision or even a draw.

[eastern eagle]

Goes back to SRR. Hey now we're talking PFP1. Guess it aint crap........

[mike464]

If Hatton beats Floyd, I'd put him at #1. He is coming up form 140lbs and beating the P4P #1. Then if Wright beats Cal, he is #2 and Pac drops to #3.Same as me but I'd have Wright at 3 or 4 below Pacquiao and maybe Hopkins. Floyd would drop to number 5 maybe but it's tough because he started at a much lower weight so, like you say, in a "P4P sense" he might still be the best but we really have no choice but to take current form into account.

[Chert]

If Hatton beats Floyd, I'd put him at #1. He is coming up form 140lbs and beating the P4P #1. Then if Wright beats Cal, he is #2 and Pac drops to #3.

hmm... so what happens if pac beats jmm in march then?

[The Kurgan]

Two of my favourite boxers meet at last. I give Calzaghe an edge because of the weight and ring youth, but I wouldn't be surprised if Winky pulls of the upset. Had it not been for Hopkins giving one of the worst exhibitions of sportsmanship ever (and having the ref on his side) I think he'd have lost to Winky, but Calzaghe is a vastly superior boxer to Hopkins.

[BewareofDawg]

hmm... so what happens if pac beats jmm in march then?
Damnit :twisted:

[sean]

winky has a good chance in this fight. they'll be fighting at 168, right? that's just a division above winky's natural weight unlike in the hopkins fight where he fought 2 divisions up.

winky has one of the best D in boxing. and calzaghe even if he's the bigger fighter won't have a power advantage over winky. calzaghe will rely on activity and volume punching while winky will offset this with superior D and over-all better skills. this will be a close fight. i won't be surprised if this ends in a very close split decision or even a draw.

i presume it would be at 168.
but at 170 winky looked heavy/slow and sluggish both of feet and hand, and it was only hopkins also looking quite slow that it was competitive throughout.

winky USED to have the best D in boxing , i thought he was pretty open in his last 3 or 4 fights.


i thought sam solimon gave wright all he could handle and calzaghe is a 5 inch bigger/faster/way more skillfull /harder hitter volume puncher who also can shut down his opponents best weapons and make him very hard to hit when he gets in his zone.

styles mak fights and i think hopkins style gives calzaghe problems , not sure if a 168 version of winky has enough speed of hand or foot to cope.

calzaghe isgoing to throw 2 timers a s many punches as hopkins/set a verty high pace and will not be backed up to the ropes like taylor was.

i do not think wright is a p4p 168 fighter in fact i think he would struggle v a lot of the contenders at 168 all of whom are bigger/stronger/faster and hit harder than wright.


i did call this fight a few days ago, wright is a name fighter but i do not beleive at 168 a dangerous one.

[ralphc]

Wright is coming to the end of his career and he needs some big money fights. Calzaghe is the biggest money that he can hope to make.

[brooklyn1550]

Calzaghe by a very wide UD