If Floyd loses - P4P world is shaken up!

[BewareofDawg]

Lets get to it! We gotta be prepared on this website for anything!

The P4P list as of tomorrow would look like this:
1 Hatton
2 Pac
3 Calzaghe
4 JMM
5 Mayweather
6 Cotto
7 Pavlik
8 Wright
9 Mosley
10 Vasquez

11 R Marquez
12 Hopkins :twisted:
13 W Klitshcko
14 Baby Bull
15 Delahoya

[Relentless]

no way if pbf loses calzaghe goes to number 1 :yep

[brooklyn1550]

The pound for pound rankings would look really odd. If Floyd loses, I would have it something like this...

1. Hatton
2. Calzaghe
3. Pacquiao
4. Cotto
5. Mayweather
6. JM Marquez
7. Hopkins
8. Vazquez
9. Pavlik
10. Calderon

11. Diaz
12. Guzman
13. R Marquez
14. Klitschko
15. Mijares
16. Kessler

[Daruf]

Sorry Dawg but hopkins is way too low on your list .. hating doesn't justify that.
He should be top 5.

[KayEpps]

I don't care how much you hate Hopkins - if you're going to make a P4P List - at least be honest all around

[BewareofDawg]

Sorry Dawg but hopkins is way too low on your list .. hating doesn't justify that.
He should be top 5.
He lost twice to Taylor at middleweight. He then moves up to HIS NATURAL WEIGHT, the weight he himself says he shouldve been at if it wasn't for chasing more money, and beats an out of shape has been, barely ever was Tarver. Then almost loses to Winky after making him pig out to get up to 170lbs :good He is just fine.

[eastern eagle]

Dawg, you know P4P confuses me but shouldn't there be another 1 in front of the 12 for BHOP?

[brooklyn1550]

He lost twice to Taylor at middleweight. He then moves up to HIS NATURAL WEIGHT, the weight he himself says he shouldve been at if it wasn't for chasing more money, and beats an out of shape has been, barely ever was Tarver. Then almost loses to Winky after making him pig out to get up to 170lbs :good He is just fine.

He didn't ALMOST lose to Winky

117-111, 117-111, 116-112 is a wide decision

[BewareofDawg]

He didn't ALMOST lose to Winky

117-111, 117-111, 116-112 is a wide decision
Winky wore out. but before the extra FAT finally took its toll, Winky was winning the fight. At middle Winky would've won. Also, Hopkins performance in that fight was fucking embarassing. And why the hell is the "Lt Heavy champion" fighting a damn lt Middle?????

[C Money]

I hope the P4P World is flushed sown the toilet:good

Its myth and opinion, not fact, and is therefore FANTASY. It should have no impact when discussing fighters IMO:yep

Floyd may not be the best WW so why do I give a fuck what popular opinion thinks he is?? I dont.

[Boom_Boom]

I say it depends how Hatton beats PBF

If Hatton clearly wins hes #1
If Hatton controverisially wins hes #2 or #3 (mayweather still above him)

[unclepaulie]

pound for pound rankings are for nerds.

boxing forums are for boxing nerds. i can admit it...

anyways if hatton wins heres the p4p

1. hatton
2. pac
3. floyd
4. marquez
5. hopkins
6. calzaghe
7.vasquez
8. r. marquez
9. cotto
10. wright

[eastern eagle]

Paulie, PLEASE, your pissing me !!! BHOP above JC ??? WTF, PLEASE say you're joking.

[Thinman]

I hope the P4P World is flushed sown the toilet:good

Its myth and opinion, not fact, and is therefore FANTASY. It should have no impact when discussing fighters IMO:yep

Floyd may not be the best WW so why do I give a fuck what popular opinion thinks he is?? I dont.

Some people like to think that their favorite boxer is the best or among the best, and the only way they can achieve that is by making a P4P list. What is funny is that they may not even be the best in their own division. :yep

Same shit goes with the so called linear champion. Some people think that if a boxer beats the linear champion he's beating the best in that particular division.

[China_hand_Joe]

I agree that Hatton and Floyd would switch places but Calzaghe over Pacquiao? Are you trying to make me vomit?

Pacman can be badly outboxed.

Calzaghe, you can't do anything to him like.

His auroa of invinciblity puts him up over Pacman.

[Lacyace]

Some people like to think that their favorite boxer is the best or among the best, and the only way they can achieve that is by making a P4P list. What is funny is that they may not even be the best in their own division.

I can prove Floyd Mayweather's the best fighter today more than you can anyone else. Nothing to do with a mythical ranking system.

[Lacyace]

I hope the P4P World is flushed sown the toilet:good

Its myth and opinion, not fact, and is therefore FANTASY. It should have no impact when discussing fighters IMO:yep

Floyd may not be the best WW so why do I give a fuck what popular opinion thinks he is?? I dont.

Cool. Test your theory. What fighter today is better than Floyd?

[Thinman]

I can prove Floyd Mayweather's the best fighter today more than you can anyone else. Nothing to do with a mythical ranking system.

No, you can't. He might be the best on paper but that doesn't mean he's the best for real. He'll be the best at 147 if he defeats the best contenders there...only then you can say he's the best.

Regarding the best P4P nobody is the best. There is no way to prove it. You can make a list of 10 boxers and say that at a particular time they are the ones who stand out as the best boxers in boxing, but there is no way to determine who is the best.

You can say who is the best in a particular division when a boxer beats the best contenders in that particular division. The boxer has to prove it in the ring that he is the best. Having the best skills does not necessarily translate in to being the best. However, you can say that he is the most complete boxer which is totally different.

[Lacyace]

No, you can't. He might be the best on paper but that doesn't mean he's the best for real. He'll be the best at 147 if he defeats the best contenders there...only then you can say he's the best.

Yes, I can. Like I said before, name the WWs out there that's better than Floyd. It's that simple. We all know, beating the WW champion and the number one contender is not beating the best WW's out there, right?


Regarding the best P4P nobody is the best. There is no way to prove it. You can make a list of 10 boxers and say that at a particular time they are the ones who stand out as the best boxers in boxing, but there is no way to determine who is the best.


Too bad P4P is not a 'best of' list. Listen, if you don't think Floyd is the best fighter today, you are lying to yourself.

[IntentionalButt]

I agree that Hatton and Floyd would switch places but Calzaghe over Pacquiao? Are you trying to make me vomit?
We're going to need to learn you how to suppress that gag reflex, girlfriend! :nono

[Thinman]

Yes, I can. Like I said before, name the WWs out there that's better than Floyd. It's that simple. We all know, beating the WW champion and the number one contender is not beating the best WW's out there, right?



Too bad P4P is not a 'best of' list. Listen, if you don't think Floyd is the best fighter today, you are lying to yourself.

No, I am not lying to myself. In reallity, and for you to understand my point, I see nobody being the best at 147. They woud have to fight(prove it in the ring) and then I will tell you who the best is. Got it? PBF is the most complete boxer at 147, that's the way it looks to me, but he has to prove in the ring that he is the best.

I apply the same standards with Pac. Some people think and have said that he is the best at 130, I'd say lets wait and see it. If he beats JMM, Guzman and/or Soto/Valero then I would say that he is the best at 130. Understand my point?

PBF beat the champion who probably was the weakest link. Please don't tell me that you believe that Baldomir was the best at 147. He was just a belt holder.