View Full Version : Darchinyan VS Donaire, I smell an Upset...
PacDbest
07-02-2007, 07:41 PM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
brooklyn1550
07-02-2007, 07:43 PM
I haven't seen Nonito, so I'm going to go with who has been in with better competition - clearly Vic.
PacDbest
07-02-2007, 07:54 PM
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Here Donaire fight.
PacDbest
07-02-2007, 07:55 PM
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An interview, look how confident he is.
PacDbest
07-02-2007, 07:57 PM
Check Maxbox too.. they have an article there about nonito.
PacDbest
07-02-2007, 08:03 PM
Has very good speed.
i don't know about him waiting and not going for the kill which could be detrimental against Vic but his speed is very good. Good reflexive counter punching.
Could do damage. We'll see it should be a good fight.
That 1st KD with left hook reminds me of PBF-Corrales KD.
brooklyn1550
07-02-2007, 08:03 PM
btw what's with the chick yelling "don't let him recover." :lol:
Shit thanks for the newsflash. :yep
"If you hit him hard he will be hurt."
"If you are fast he will be slower."
"If you attack he will go on teh defensive."
:patsch
:rofl
C Money
07-02-2007, 08:44 PM
I smell another Darchinyan KO, Donaire hasnt faced anyone even REMOTELY near the level of Darchinyan:good
Unless Donaire pulls an Andre Dirrel type track performance, in which case it'll be a UD.
Chileno606
07-02-2007, 08:51 PM
Vic by KO, this other guy is a powder puff and hits like a girl. Hes gonna get steamrolled and bullied out of the ring like every other Vic opponent.
To PacDBest.... Do you seriously think how he moves on the dance floor and how confident he appears in an interview means that he will beat Darchinyian? Rubbish.
theunderdog
07-02-2007, 10:00 PM
donaire may outbox vic like what prince gabi did but he'll ultimately suffer the same fate, ko'd
CASH_718
07-02-2007, 10:40 PM
Donaire is a very good fighter. Better then his brother Glenn who if I'm not mistaken gave Vic a little troble in there fight.
I still think Vic will win either by close decision or late TKO.
WhataRock
07-02-2007, 10:43 PM
From what Ive seen Nonito is the better of the two brothers.
I think a lot of people think once Vic faces a good all round boxer with a chin his crude style will get exposed.
I have a little more faith in him, I think he will keep finding a way for some time.
Physically he is such a beast.
Technically, he is raw but he knows what he is doing, it certainly gets the job done in brutal fashion.
Donaire is a very good fighter. Better then his brother Glenn who if I'm not mistaken gave Vic a little troble in there fight.
I still think Vic will win either by close decision or late TKO.
Glenn got throughly dominated and KO'd in like the 5th or 6th. He lost every round.
From what Ive seen Nonito is the better of the two brothers.
I think a lot of people think once Vic faces a good all round boxer with a chin his crude style will get exposed.
I have a little more faith in him, I think he will keep finding a way for some time.
Physically he is such a beast.
Technically, he is raw but he knows what he is doing, it certainly gets the job done in brutal fashion.
He is just very unorthadox technically, which people mistake for being very raw. He had a good amatuer career, and is no Mayorga by any means. He times his punches very well, and throws from some unusual angles at times. He is best when he puts combinations together. I actually think that Vic will have trouble against someone who gets right in on him, as the few times I have seen people do this to him he has looked uncomfortable. Either that or a good mover. Anyone who tries to stand there ground at boxing range will be beaten. He reminds me of a lot of European fighters in this way.
CASH_718
07-02-2007, 10:54 PM
Glenn got throughly dominated and KO'd in like the 5th or 6th. He lost every round.Wasn't a KO it was a TD.
WhataRock
07-02-2007, 11:02 PM
Wasn't a KO it was a TD.
Most bullshit TD ever.
Donaire got his jaw broken and quit.
Somehow Weeks thought that warranted it going to the cards.
Boom_Boom
07-02-2007, 11:06 PM
Donaire has the style to beat Vic but hes too green, I predict Vic winning by late TKO but Donaire ahead on all cards.
john garfield
07-02-2007, 11:30 PM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
It should be a helluva fight. Your forecast, PDb, could well happen. Though Nonito's relatively invisible compared to Darchinyan, who's been a monster on TV, Nonito can flat-out fight -- a sizzling banger on his own, and a poised ring general. Plus, he lets his hands go trigger-quick, and gets lots of leverage.
Vic's a caged tiger and will try to walk through him, with all the confidence of an undefeated fighter and belief he can end a fight with a single straight left.
To his credit, Donaire will use the ring and his height and reach, but he's no Corey Spinks: he'll trade, and I think he mixes combinations better than Darchinyan, who depends on the left hand home run.
Vic believes he can knock anyone out -- any weight, and can't be hurt. That's the way he spars -- all offense; every punch intended to flatten. He's rocked welters in the gym.
How will the 800-pound gorilla react when he's hit back, hard. I think Nonito has the tools and grit to test him and upset the odds.
We may find out what Vic's made of on the receiving end, which separates the greats from the comets.
Kegsy
07-03-2007, 02:51 AM
Vic by mid rounds KO.
Vic destroys Nonito Donaire.
theunderdog
07-03-2007, 03:53 AM
i just read an interview with vic. he said he's still upset about not getting the ko win over glen donaire and that he will push nonito first before knocking him out. he also saif the his max weight is 130 and that he wants to fight the winner of vasquez/marquez and pacquiao.
that's some cocky shit.
BoppaZoo
07-03-2007, 05:10 AM
Vic by mid rounds KO.
Vic destroys Nonito Donaire.i agree ive got Vic winning start of the 9th round. TKO. but i wouldnt be suprized if Vic KO's him earlier.'
anywhere between 6 and 9.
i just read an interview with vic. he said he's still upset about not getting the ko win over glen donaire and that he will push nonito first before knocking him out. he also saif the his max weight is 130 and that he wants to fight the winner of vasquez/marquez and pacquiao.
that's some cocky shit.
Tough words coming from a flyweight.. That's just like Pacquiao challenging Cotto or ODLH
PacDbest
07-03-2007, 06:41 AM
To PacDBest.... Do you seriously think how he moves on the dance floor and how confident he appears in an interview means that he will beat Darchinyian? Rubbish.
Did you already seen Nonito fights? Did you see Dachinyan fight with Pacheco??? I based it on what I've seen on those fights plus in what I've seen in Nonito's persona.
Can you dance??? If so, then you know you need Good body coordination in able to dance. You gotta have a sense of timing. That's what Nonito can use to beat Vic, Time him. Most athletic Basketball & slick boxers are very good dancers coz they have good sense of timing.
When I ask Nonito if he think he can Beat Vic, he said " Yes I can beat him, But he won't moved up to 116." For just taking the fight & moving down in weight just to fight this monster, I give Nonito his Due. He got balls that all the Flyweight Title holders don't. That includes Arce.
Goodluck Nonito!!!
Nawfal
07-03-2007, 07:21 AM
ive heard from a lot of people that donaire is actually a madman. he is the sleeper
theunderdog
07-03-2007, 07:36 AM
arce doesn't have balls? come on pacd. didn't you see his fight against hussy? a boxer who doesn't have balls don't fight like that.
blackstrider
07-03-2007, 08:30 AM
Tough words coming from a flyweight.. That's just like Pacquiao challenging Cotto or ODLH
:? but pac never challenge those people u mentioned..whered u get that? maybe from nuthugging and hating thread?:lol:
PacDbest
07-03-2007, 03:06 PM
arce doesn't have balls? come on pacd. didn't you see his fight against hussy? a boxer who doesn't have balls don't fight like that.
Arce have a Big Heart & fights like a Champ in the Hussy fight but shows how small his nuts are by avoiding darchinyan.
Goose
07-03-2007, 04:23 PM
Im going to see this fight live at the arena in bridgeport.
darchinyan should KO this guy
PacDbest
07-03-2007, 04:35 PM
Im going to see this fight live at the arena in bridgeport.
darchinyan should KO this guy
ARCE should have Koed Mijares.
Barrera should have schooled Pac.
Lacy should have KOed Calzaghe.
just to name a few.
theunderdog
07-03-2007, 08:07 PM
Arce have a Big Heart & fights like a Champ in the Hussy fight but shows how small his nuts are by avoiding darchinyan.
if he avoided vic, then why face a much tougher mijares? you can tell me arce ducked vic if he fought a nobody but he was freaking beat up by mijares. your arguement just doesn't make sense
theunderdog
07-03-2007, 08:09 PM
:? but pac never challenge those people u mentioned..whered u get that? maybe from nuthugging and hating thread?:lol:
you're a retard! he said "like" stupid. he didn't actually said pac did!
PacDbest
07-03-2007, 08:34 PM
if he avoided vic, then why face a much tougher mijares? you can tell me arce ducked vic if he fought a nobody but he was freaking beat up by mijares. your arguement just doesn't make sense
Arce moved up to 116 face unknown Mijares. ARce Dachinyan is the biggest fight at 112. Why it didn't happen?
Mijares only got to be known to be tough after he schooled Arce. Before that he is a Big underdog & Underrated.
theunderdog
07-03-2007, 09:34 PM
Arce moved up to 116 face unknown Mijares. ARce Dachinyan is the biggest fight at 112. Why it didn't happen?
Mijares only got to be known to be tough after he schooled Arce. Before that he is a Big underdog & Underrated.
exactly!!! but still arce had to know that mijares was dangerous but still he was willing. saying arce moved up to duck vic is like saying, well in your terms, pac ducked jmm to fight morales at 130
and you wouldn't say pac ducked jmm would you?
:? but pac never challenge those people u mentioned..whered u get that? maybe from nuthugging and hating thread?:lol:
I was being sarcastic DUH?! :patsch
Dantes
07-04-2007, 02:41 AM
Vic is a beast. Donaire ain't the guy to beat him...
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 03:47 AM
I was being sarcastic DUH?! :patsch
don't mind him. just another annoying, know nothing pac nuthugger
chinachin_76
07-04-2007, 03:50 AM
lol @ the person who smells an upset. There will only be one way of victory in this fight ... and that'll be Darchinyan by brutal KO!! I'd say 4 out of 5 times Donaire leaves this fight in a coma.
DobyZhee
07-04-2007, 03:53 AM
lol he met him on the dancefloor and so he makes this wild prediction based on that...rubbish.
Dude, I think you bought Donaire one too many drinks.
chinachin_76
07-04-2007, 04:22 AM
Darchinyan doesn't need technical skills to beat Donaire. Donaire can jab and have his technical side tip top and it still won't make a difference. Vic will just stalk Donaire with his right and then land massive lefts. Vic could beat him with one hand.
Uphercut
07-04-2007, 05:46 AM
Vic TKO 5
PacDbest
07-04-2007, 06:03 AM
exactly!!! but still arce had to know that mijares was dangerous but still he was willing. saying arce moved up to duck vic is like saying, well in your terms, pac ducked jmm to fight morales at 130
and you wouldn't say pac ducked jmm would you?
That's just show how stupid you are!!!
Vic was calling Arce since he won the title, about 2 years ago.
Pac never ducks JMM, He's scheduled to fight JMM in a rematch & JMM says money is not enough. That's why Pac look for the next Big Money fight & that is Morales at 130.
What do you think is the Bigger Money fight for Arce, Darchinyan at 112 or Mijares at 116???
PacDbest
07-04-2007, 07:22 AM
Underdog TKOed by Pacdbest & Eastsideboxer !!!!
PacDbest
07-04-2007, 07:32 PM
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Here's Donaire's latest interview, I told you guys He is one confident guy!
He said also that Vasquez Knock down dachinyan in sparring. This guy has the gut to call Pacman???
PacDbest
07-04-2007, 08:17 PM
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here's more old article before Donaire Haruthunyan fight.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 08:57 PM
Arce and PAC moving up can't be compared... Arce moved up and failed miserably... PAC moved up, also failed but gave Erik a close 1st fight... PAC stayed there and dominated the division to become the no. 1 super featherweight...
you're a complete moron. how many fights did arce have when he moved up? just one against mijares. and he lost it. and as you said, pac lost his first fight too. so how the hell could you judge arce when he lost just one fight. pac was lucky to get a rematch with EM. and who knows, arce could do the same.
so how the hell can you say that you can't compare arce and pac moving up when they first lost their first fights. who knows? arce might just bounce back if given the chance like pac in his 2nd fight. you're a retard. you don't know shit.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 09:03 PM
Underdog TKOed by Pacdbest & Eastsideboxer !!!!
you're dreaming dude. you "pac has superpowers" excuses can't own anybody. you're one of the least respected posters here in this site because of your wild reasons and you seriously can't own anybody. and you homie eastsideboxer ain't worth shit either. claiming pac should be p4p #1 if he beats mab again
how about this dog. since you're so confident your boy donaire's going to win. how about you get the hell out of this site if vic wins. if you boy wins i'll announce to the world that i got owned by you and get the hell out. you got the nads for it punk?
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 09:33 PM
Arce moved up and failed miserably... PAC moved up, also failed but gave Erik a close 1st fight... The comparison ends here ... and PAC got A- while Arce got C+ ...
and they still both lost!!! A- for a loss? i don't think so. pac EM was close and pac was CLEARLY beaten. my other point is that is was Arce's only fight in that weight with that type of competition! cut him some slack. he defeated three good fighters at the 114-116 pound area. you think that's failing miserably?
anyway, it's beside the point. pacdbest said that nonito donaire has more guts that jorge arce. do you agree with him or not?
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 09:42 PM
no comment on this issue ...
how the hell could you have no comment on that? that was the initial issue that pacd and i were debating about. are you afraid to disagree with your buddy pacd? you know he messed up but you still can't say you disagree with him could you??
come on man. answer the freaking question. then we could resume our discussions
hellblazer
07-04-2007, 09:44 PM
Vic by K.O!! But I want Donaire to win...
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 09:55 PM
no comment on this issue ...
come on boy. i know you're here. answer the question!!
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 09:58 PM
i just presented what i think on the Arce and PAC comparison in moving up ... but if you will force me to analyze on who has more guts, Arce or Donaire then i can just safely say that IMO, both has the same amount of guts as boxers...
so it's a tie? hillarious. just as i thought. you're a pussy. you know it in your guts that pacd was way over his head when he said that donaire was more gutsy than arce. i respect nonito as a fighter but pacd's claim was a vast underestimation of arce and all the other fighters in that weight.
you're a freaking pussy. do you fear that your "lifepartner" pacd will get angry if you disagree with him?? poor guy. get a spine!!!!!
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Did you already seen Nonito fights? Did you see Dachinyan fight with Pacheco??? I based it on what I've seen on those fights plus in what I've seen in Nonito's persona.
Can you dance??? If so, then you know you need Good body coordination in able to dance. You gotta have a sense of timing. That's what Nonito can use to beat Vic, Time him. Most athletic Basketball & slick boxers are very good dancers coz they have good sense of timing.
When I ask Nonito if he think he can Beat Vic, he said " Yes I can beat him, But he won't moved up to 116." For just taking the fight & moving down in weight just to fight this monster, I give Nonito his Due. He got balls that all the Flyweight Title holders don't. That includes Arce.
Goodluck Nonito!!!
hey eastsideboxer. here it is again in case you have a hard time looking for it. 1st of all, there is no reason for vic to move up to 116 to face nonito. he's a nobody. 2nd, fighting a good champion, even if he was a weight class lower is not having balls. it's being lucky that you were given the chance. a fool with half a brain would fight vic too. they's get beateen up, yes, but at least they earned some and got the chance. it's not about having balls
and lastly the item i boldfaced. nonito has been in the states for a long time. i don't think pacd quoted him word for word.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:17 PM
i will only consider one of these guys has more guts if he will move up to 122 pounds and fight Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero ...
pussy! you have no spine. you can't even answer a simple question. a TIE? you have to be kidding. caballero is a whole new topic bro. don't go that far. go back to pacdbest now and ask for your weekly allowance. you've been a very good boy to him.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:21 PM
his brother quit inside a round against gorres, complaining that he can't see.
he should have been ko'd by vic but he whined of a broken jaw and the dumb referee gave vic a TD win instead of a TKO.
i'm sure the incredible guts and courage run in their family
Did you already seen Nonito fights? Did you see Dachinyan fight with Pacheco??? I based it on what I've seen on those fights plus in what I've seen in Nonito's persona.
Can you dance??? If so, then you know you need Good body coordination in able to dance. You gotta have a sense of timing. That's what Nonito can use to beat Vic, Time him. Most athletic Basketball & slick boxers are very good dancers coz they have good sense of timing.
When I ask Nonito if he think he can Beat Vic, he said " Yes I can beat him, But he won't moved up to 116." For just taking the fight & moving down in weight just to fight this monster, I give Nonito his Due. He got balls that all the Flyweight Title holders don't. That includes Arce.
Goodluck Nonito!!!
I do dance actually I go clubbing like 3 nights a week, and gong all night on the dance floor means NOTHING in the boxing ring. Quite possible one of the stupiest things I have ever heard. Yes it does take coordination, but so does playing soccer. Does that mean a good soccer player should be a good boxer? I have seen bit of the Pacheco fight, but I believe that Vic has improved since then. Regardless, the point I am making is that to come out and say Donaire will win because you have seen him on the dance floor is absurd. Fair enough if you have based it on his actual fights however.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:39 PM
I do dance actually I go clubbing like 3 nights a week, and gong all night on the dance floor means NOTHING in the boxing ring. Quite possible one of the stupidest things I have ever heard. Yes it does take coordination, but so does playing soccer. Does that mean a good soccer player should be a good boxer? I have seen bit of the Pacheco fight, but I believe that Vic has improved since then. Regardless, the point I am making is that to come out and say Donaire will win because you have seen him on the dance floor is absurd. Fair enough if you have based it on his actual fights however.
exactly
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:41 PM
you can show your spine here ... join this avatar bet :
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wow a gay avatar thread. i sure you have seen loads and loads of margo and paul's fights that led you to that decision.
ain't buying it. how about if nonito wins i go, vic wins you go? how about that? talk about having spine! come on dude. and bring your daddy pacd with you!
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 10:49 PM
fine i'll make my pick there if you agree to leave if vic wins. how about that?
i just read the thread again. you were asking if you were elligible? f@#$ it man. that's the funniest shit ever. a while ago you did not even know if you were elligible now you're all gung-ho about the bet? classic.
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 11:01 PM
post this comment on that thread and i will answer you in that thread why i asked if i'm eligible to join ...
don't change the topic boy. vic wins you get the hell out. if you agree, i'll join the avatar thread. how about it? time to grow a pair
Pacd's bitch
theunderdog
07-04-2007, 11:58 PM
hey little bitch. got what you want?
enjoy your last few days in esb boy. you won't be here come the 7th.
theunderdog
07-05-2007, 12:12 AM
hahaha... i love to post on ESB ... i will not bet my username and stay here for any fights ... avatar bet is fine with me tho.... hahaha ...
what a surprise. you pussied out again.
your love for posting in esb is unparalleled. you love it so much that you came up with 179 posts in just less than two years. 20 of which are in this thread. you must really love it here
BoppaZoo
07-05-2007, 05:14 AM
this goes to the people that smell an upset.
Vic Darchinyan oppisition *world title fights
vs Singwancha (38-6-0) TKO 4
vs Montiel (48-5-0) UD 10
vs Singwancha (38-7-0) TKO 5
vs Pacheco (30-0-0) TKO 11*
vs Sikali (29-6-2) TKO 8*
vs Jimenez (22-4-1) TKO 5*
vs Gabi (26-2-1) TKO 8*
vs Maldonado (33-0-1) TKO 8*
vs Donaire (16-2-1) TD 6*
vs Burgos (39-14-3) TKO 12*
Doniare Oppisition
vs Julio (35-6-1) UD 8
vs Andrade (35-24-1) UD 12
now the rest of his fights are not even mentioning and these two guys just get a mention because they are ok fighters.
Donaire is going to get KO'd his compitition even in the last 6 fights has been average to say the least.
PACDBEST Nonito is going to get the hell beaten out of him trust me on this.
if you watched the Burgos fight you would realize this.
just because he dance well doesnt mean he isnt going to get over powered and caught on the chin.
hell Pacheco has one of the best chins in the business and he got wrecked by the Raging Bull.
Please the level of fighters that Donaire has been in against wouldnt last a round with Darchinyan and yet you want me to believe that when Donaire stepped up his level of comp everyone of his fights has gone the distance against guys that wouldnt last 3 rounds in the ring with Vic.
Vic by TKO 9 but dont be suprised if its earlier than that.
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 05:49 AM
this goes to the people that smell an upset.
Vic Darchinyan oppisition *world title fights
vs Singwancha (38-6-0) TKO 4
vs Montiel (48-5-0) UD 10
vs Singwancha (38-7-0) TKO 5
vs Pacheco (30-0-0) TKO 11*
vs Sikali (29-6-2) TKO 8*
vs Jimenez (22-4-1) TKO 5*
vs Gabi (26-2-1) TKO 8*
vs Maldonado (33-0-1) TKO 8*
vs Donaire (16-2-1) TD 6*
vs Burgos (39-14-3) TKO 12*
Doniare Oppisition
vs Julio (35-6-1) UD 8
vs Andrade (35-24-1) UD 12
now the rest of his fights are not even mentioning and these two guys just get a mention because they are ok fighters.
Donaire is going to get KO'd his compitition even in the last 6 fights has been average to say the least.
PACDBEST Nonito is going to get the hell beaten out of him trust me on this.
if you watched the Burgos fight you would realize this.
just because he dance well doesnt mean he isnt going to get over powered and caught on the chin.
hell Pacheco has one of the best chins in the business and he got wrecked by the Raging Bull.
Please the level of fighters that Donaire has been in against wouldnt last a round with Darchinyan and yet you want me to believe that when Donaire stepped up his level of comp everyone of his fights has gone the distance against guys that wouldnt last 3 rounds in the ring with Vic.
Vic by TKO 9 but dont be suprised if its earlier than that.
I just watch again the Burgos fight, Burgos has some moments in the early rounds. But Burgos is 4" shorter than Donaire & Much older guy. No comparison there. Before pac fought MAB, experts are saying Pac will be schooled & No match against MAB coz he's competition are very inferior compare to MAB. you know what happen next.
I repeat again, I don't based on just dancing. Donaire has the style, the speed, the youth, & the smart to outbox Vic. Even bobby Chacon said He's the next PACQUIAO. A hall of Famer saying that means he's seen something special out of Donaire. The only question in my mind is How good Nonito's chin are?
Did you read the Presscon where Vic & Nonito exchange words?? I think on this fight Nonito is winning the Psychological Battle. He won't let Vic intimidate him. I met this guy in person & this guy is one heck of a confident guy.
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 05:59 AM
and they still both lost!!! A- for a loss? i don't think so. pac EM was close and pac was CLEARLY beaten. my other point is that is was Arce's only fight in that weight with that type of competition! cut him some slack. he defeated three good fighters at the 114-116 pound area. you think that's failing miserably?
anyway, it's beside the point. pacdbest said that nonito donaire has more guts that jorge arce. do you agree with him or not?
Underpants, Did you answered my last question to you?
Who do you think are the Bigger Money fight, Dachinyan-Arce or Arce Mijares???
Hey I'll take your bet. just week off bet I pick Donaire.
But to be fair, since Nonito is the Big underdog & vic the clear favorite. If Vic wins I'll take a week off starting Monday. But If Nonito wins You take a month off. Just like 4-1 odd betting. Will you take it???
BoppaZoo
07-05-2007, 07:13 AM
I just watch again the Burgos fight, Burgos has some moments in the early rounds. But Burgos is 4" shorter than Donaire & Much older guy. No comparison there. Before pac fought MAB, experts are saying Pac will be schooled & No match against MAB coz he's competition are very inferior compare to MAB. you know what happen next.
I repeat again, I don't based on just dancing. Donaire has the style, the speed, the youth, & the smart to outbox Vic. Even bobby Chacon said He's the next PACQUIAO. A hall of Famer saying that means he's seen something special out of Donaire. The only question in my mind is How good Nonito's chin are?
Did you read the Presscon where Vic & Nonito exchange words?? I think on this fight Nonito is winning the Psychological Battle. He won't let Vic intimidate him. I met this guy in person & this guy is one heck of a confident guy.just because he acts tough in a press conference doesnt mean he is going to win against a guy that has been in the Ring with much better comp and has had world title fights.
i mean Donaire looks good but sure he looks good against
his last ten fights.
R. Barrera (16-4-1) TKO 4
G. Bolanos (4-6-1) UD 8 he couldnt stop this guy.
P. Villalobos (24-28-2) TKO 6
L. Olvera (5-4-2) UD 6 he couldnt knock this guy out.
D. Gonzalez (4-1-0) KO 1
I. Julio (35-6-1) UD 8 his first real comp went the distance
K. Harutyunyan (13-2-3) SD 10 just got past this guy.
J. Cardenas (5-6-1) TKO 2
O. Andrade (35-24-1) UD 12 just got past a guy with 24 loses.
K. Hudgins (5-9-0) TKO 2
now you call that enough to get past a man that has been in the Ring with ranked guys from Ring in the last 5 fights.
i will be very suprised if Donaire lasts until the 10 round.
BoppaZoo
07-05-2007, 07:24 AM
oh and PacDbest obvoiusly your another Phillipino fan that folllows boxing but knows F-all about it.
its good to be supportive and i like your Patriotism.
but Donaire is going down i would bet an avatar bet for a month on it.
1punch1nder
07-05-2007, 08:56 AM
sorry my fellow proud pinoys, but i cant see how donaire could beat darchinyan... he is unbeatable at his weight class right now.
I'd rather watch Vic against Arce or Mijares
1punch1nder
07-05-2007, 12:50 PM
Nonito Donaire:
"I just want to get this, I’m really excited. I just want to thank everybody out there who have supported me. I know a lot of the guys, even some Filipinos, don’t trust me at all. They think I’m nothing, but I don’t care what people say. I have always gotten what I wanted, when I put my mind to it. I want this one, and I know I’m gonna get it."
i dont want to be mean but what has he done to earn the trust of his people? just like what bea said to gee-ann "respect isn't imposed... it is earned" :hey:good
i couldn't be happier if he wins but beating darchinyan is too good to be true. i just hope eastsideboxer/paclandboxer that you wont treat nonito the way most paclanders treated viloria after his loss... coz there is no shame in losing to darchinyan, im also preparing myself for the heartache.
i dont want to be mean but what has he done to earn the trust of his people? just like what bea said to gee-ann "respect isn't imposed... it is earned" :hey:good
i couldn't be happier if he wins but beating darchinyan is too good to be true. i just hope eastsideboxer/paclandboxer that you wont treat nonito the way most paclanders treated viloria after his loss... coz there is no shame in losing to darchinyan, im also preparing myself for the heartache.
:good
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 08:48 PM
oh and PacDbest obvoiusly your another Phillipino fan that folllows boxing but knows F-all about it.
its good to be supportive and i like your Patriotism.
but Donaire is going down i would bet an avatar bet for a month on it.
I don't have an avatar, how about week off bet same as I offered underdog??
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Underpants, Did you answered my last question to you?
Who do you think are the Bigger Money fight, Dachinyan-Arce or Arce Mijares???
Hey I'll take your bet. just week off bet I pick Donaire.
But to be fair, since Nonito is the Big underdog & vic the clear favorite. If Vic wins I'll take a week off starting Monday. But If Nonito wins You take a month off. Just like 4-1 odd betting. Will you take it???
Where are you underdog???
Be a man take my bet!!! Ok I'll lower the betting line 2-1. Nonito wins you're off 2 weeks. Vic wins I'm off 1 week.
theunderdog
07-05-2007, 09:02 PM
be a man? you're talking of being a man and you'll go just one week and i go two? fuck betting favorites, if you smell an upset and totally trust nonito's DANCING ABILITIES, then make it 2 for 2. you go two weeks or i go two weeks. you're talking about being a man and you can't accept a bet on equal footing. you think donaire would win, i think otherwise, why the hell do we have to listen to what the odds are. we're supposed to be boxing fans, we should know better
or maybe, i'll accept your challenge, but if vic wins by KO or TKO you go out two weeks, if vic by Decision you go out 1 week. is that soft enough for your little candy ass?
theunderdog
07-05-2007, 09:03 PM
i dont want to be mean but what has he done to earn the trust of his people? just like what bea said to gee-ann "respect isn't imposed... it is earned" :hey:good
i couldn't be happier if he wins but beating darchinyan is too good to be true. i just hope eastsideboxer/paclandboxer that you wont treat nonito the way most paclanders treated viloria after his loss... coz there is no shame in losing to darchinyan, im also preparing myself for the heartache.
finally, another filipino may just know what he's talking about. now whose bea and gee-ann?
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 09:23 PM
be a man? you're talking of being a man and you'll go just one week and i go two? fuck betting favorites, if you smell an upset and totally trust nonito's DANCING ABILITIES, then make it 2 for 2. you go two weeks or i go two weeks. you're talking about being a man and you can't accept a bet on equal footing. you think donaire would win, i think otherwise, why the hell do we have to listen to what the odds are. we're supposed to be boxing fans, we should know better
or maybe, i'll accept your challenge, but if vic wins by KO or TKO you go out two weeks, if vic by Decision you go out 1 week. is that soft enough for your little candy ass?
See... you're not confident enough that Vic can win. You said no way Nonito can win. Then why not take my bet. Vic is the safe bet & very few believe Nonito can win. That's the way betting should be. You pick the safe bet you wager more. Come on be a Man, It's only 2 weeks, you can bullshit again after that!!!
theunderdog
07-05-2007, 10:11 PM
See... you're not confident enough that Vic can win. You said no way Nonito can win. Then why not take my bet. Vic is the safe bet & very few believe Nonito can win. That's the way betting should be. You pick the safe bet you wager more. Come on be a Man, It's only 2 weeks, you can bullshit again after that!!!
you know what, 1 week without you is worth it. pussyboy. you're on
and i have bullshit posts? don't make me laugh pal. you in esb's p4p list for worst posters. i'm not
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 10:44 PM
you know what, 1 week without you is worth it. pussyboy. you're on
and i have bullshit posts? don't make me laugh pal. you in esb's p4p list for worst posters. i'm not
I said 2 weeks if Nonito wins. That's the deal.
Who voting in that ESB P4p worst poster?? Can I vote too?? Or you're the lone voter??
theunderdog
07-05-2007, 11:03 PM
yeah,yeah i get it. i'm off 2 in you boy wins. you're of 1 when vic wins.
don't fool yourself boy. 75% of posters here think that you're a nutjob and the other 25% are your hommies.
PacDbest
07-05-2007, 11:12 PM
yeah,yeah i get it. i'm off 2 in you boy wins. you're of 1 when vic wins.
don't fool yourself boy. 75% of posters here think that you're a nutjob and the other 25% are your hommies.
That's why I like it here. I have the chance to disprove a lot of People. In Pacland most will agree with me & there's no challenge there.
We have a deal boy...Get ready with your fishing gear, you're in a long Vacation.
theunderdog
07-06-2007, 12:32 AM
Don't forget to remind theunderdog to wear his Margo gay avatar while on vacation ...
kid, at least pacdbest was man enough to accept. props for him for standing up on what he believed in. you chickened out. remember?
how about you join us and if vic wins you take a week off too? if your boy wins i'm off for a month??
theunderdog
07-06-2007, 12:36 AM
That's why I like it here. I have the chance to disprove a lot of People. In Pacland most will agree with me & there's no challenge there.
We have a deal boy...Get ready with your fishing gear, you're in a long Vacation.
did you even read what you just typed??
members from PACland agree with a poster named PACdbest? of course they will! because thy're a bunch of nuthuggers like you. anyway, be sure to drop by after teh vic-nonito fight, i'm sure the winner will have some encouraging "see you later" messages for the loser
ps. i dont fish. that's what your dad does to feed your family
theunderdog
07-06-2007, 01:02 AM
you already got a deal with PacD ... don't find another escape route ...
our deal is the avatar bet ... i will let you have the freedom to choose which gay avatar you want to wear ... anyway, any of those will suits you well ...
escape route? nah. i don't need that.
theunderdog
07-06-2007, 03:03 AM
that's a real man ... not afraid to choose and wear a gay avatar ... this is the way to handle things ... throw away all those pu$$y acts ...
yea, whatever
CarltonBlues
07-06-2007, 03:08 AM
Vic by KO, bank on it.
PacDbest
07-06-2007, 03:28 AM
Vic by KO, bank on it.
You want to join the bet with underdog???
Pokie
07-06-2007, 08:03 AM
Vic is to focused to lose this fight ! Donaire is fast but Vic is very quick himself . I've seen Vic sparring and training a couple of times now and that guy is extremely strong for his weight .
Donaire will have his moments but Vic will punish this guy and by by KO8:thumbsup
PacDbest
07-06-2007, 03:26 PM
Vic is to focused to lose this fight ! Donaire is fast but Vic is very quick himself . I've seen Vic sparring and training a couple of times now and that guy is extremely strong for his weight .
Donaire will have his moments but Vic will punish this guy and by by KO8:thumbsup
Wanna join the week off bet?
Pokie
07-06-2007, 04:52 PM
Wanna join the week off bet? haha yeah mate count me in.
Your boy Nonito looks like a good slick fighter but Vic is going to make him pay for Glenn pretending to be butted . Vic hates that TD next to his name so Nonito won't be dancing after saturday for a while
Achilles
07-06-2007, 10:57 PM
Arce was a pussy who did run from Vic and got caught out by someone he thought was going to be an easier fight than Darchynian!
And I agree with PacD's original post! Vic was fortunate to beat Pacheo IMO! If it weren't for the fireworks I think Pacheo would have stopped Vic. But having said that, Donaire is no Pacheo and Vic will almost certainly beat him to a pulp!
Vic by brutal accumulative KO! :deal
Two weeks vs one off? Sure, but why should I bother? You're gone for a week already if Vic wins and I'll be here if he doesn't. So I already win either way! This is how you hit without being hit on ESB's forums! :D
Nonito is a good fighter, he has talent, but I dont think its enough. Nonito fought another Armenian fighter in Kahren Harutyunyan which he won by Split decision. Now Kahren is a good boxer, he has great Soviet based fundamentals but lacks power, you could say his feather fisted. With that said, he was able to make the adjustments and cut the distance in between himself and the much faster Donair. Now if he was able to do that, im certain that Darchinyan with his power will be able to close the deal and get the stoppage.
Did you observed substantial following, I mean fans of Nonito in your city or area?
No not really, I live in Glendale, theres not many filipinos.
PacDbest
07-07-2007, 03:43 AM
Arce was a pussy who did run from Vic and got caught out by someone he thought was going to be an easier fight than Darchynian!
And I agree with PacD's original post! Vic was fortunate to beat Pacheo IMO! If it weren't for the fireworks I think Pacheo would have stopped Vic. But having said that, Donaire is no Pacheo and Vic will almost certainly beat him to a pulp!
Vic by brutal accumulative KO! :deal
Two weeks vs one off? Sure, but why should I bother? You're gone for a week already if Vic wins and I'll be here if he doesn't. So I already win either way! This is how you hit without being hit on ESB's forums! :D
Smart Pussy!!!
PacDbest
07-07-2007, 03:47 AM
Nonito is a good fighter, he has talent, but I dont think its enough. Nonito fought another Armenian fighter in Kahren Harutyunyan which he won by Split decision. Now Kahren is a good boxer, he has great Soviet based fundamentals but lacks power, you could say his feather fisted. With that said, he was able to make the adjustments and cut the distance in between himself and the much faster Donair. Now if he was able to do that, im certain that Darchinyan with his power will be able to close the deal and get the stoppage.
Nonito said Vic's Power is nothing if he can't land it. I guess Donaire knows what to do. He'll do what SRL did to Hagler & Duran2.
PacDbest
07-07-2007, 05:34 AM
OK ... The Donaire's live in San Leandro ...
He's my Homie, He lives just about 3 miles away.
Achilles
07-07-2007, 08:45 PM
There is a good chance he'll be living a bit further away from you for a while after this fight. Like, the hospital closest to fight venue!
geppy
07-07-2007, 09:40 PM
That was a good call. The little filopino landed a pacman punch on Darchinyan. Big Ko
markbrooklyn
07-07-2007, 09:51 PM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
WOW.. You were right on the money!!! Great call man! Lethal left hook. It was beautiful. Especially against such an arrogant prick like Vic!
HandsOfGold
07-07-2007, 10:00 PM
I smell an upset too. I'm predicting a Donaire KO in round 5.
puga_ni_nana
07-07-2007, 10:36 PM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
:thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
digiram
07-07-2007, 10:43 PM
Damn missed the fight. Is it up on youtube yet?
hellblazer
07-07-2007, 10:46 PM
Wow! PacdaBest is right!!
good job kababayan :)
Amsterdam
07-07-2007, 11:07 PM
Good job PacDbest, I had a 20 on Donaire for good measure because of the odds.:good
boxing_nerd_101
07-07-2007, 11:22 PM
cant believe it but it happened. darchinyan got KO'd round 5!
bulakenyo
07-07-2007, 11:42 PM
Great call, PacdBest. Congratulations.
I thought Nonito fights like his brother. He's better [I]pala.
DobyZhee
07-07-2007, 11:45 PM
wow..pacdbest did his homework.
I'll eat crow on this one, even I didn't think Donaire had a chance.
johnco
07-07-2007, 11:50 PM
so where are the experts discrediting pacdbest in every mythical matchup?? :lol::lol:
as i have said many many times, you just never know what will happen..
i didnt give donaire the chance.. never. he proved me wrong.
chinachin_76
07-07-2007, 11:59 PM
I was in a state of shock when i saw it happen. Donaire looked much more prepared for the fight, and it looked to me like Vic's cockyness got to him in the end. Donaire's speed suprised me .... but Vic showed his flaws in his defence ... leaving himself open like that for a left hook was disappointing. Is Vic's dance comparable to that of Judah?
theunderdog
07-08-2007, 12:18 AM
good call pacd. i'm off a two weeks. mad props to your boy. see yall
Circa
07-08-2007, 12:33 AM
hell yeah!!! FLASH FLASH FLASH tamed the bull :D :D :D
Amsterdam
07-08-2007, 12:43 AM
so where are the experts discrediting pacdbest in every mythical matchup?? :lol::lol:
as i have said many many times, you just never know what will happen..
i didnt give donaire the chance.. never. he proved me wrong.
PacDbest often goes wild and is often off target, for example, he thought Litzau was going to be something special...
But this was a GREAT prediction and he put it out live, major credit here from me.:good
Dekkers
07-08-2007, 12:50 AM
PacDbest often goes wild and is often off target, for example, he thought Litzau was going to be something special...
But this was a GREAT prediction and he put it out live, major credit here from me.:good
Looks like I owe pac the best, he made me nervous so I opted to put the joker on Perez rather than Vic, big props from me, he even noted the left hook which was the punch that ended the fight.
SOUTHERMOST
07-08-2007, 12:55 AM
Good prediction,very impressed by Nonito, Vic got desperate loosing the fight and launched himself wide open a perfect punch from a younger,faster,taller fighter he was still in shock after the fight looking for a rematch. Nonito a well polished fighter probably better boxer than Pac.
Carlos Primera
07-08-2007, 01:23 AM
wow, went exactly as pacDbest said. good job bro.
retriever
07-08-2007, 01:34 AM
WOw...nice call pacD, YEY Pinoy!
Spitfire7
07-08-2007, 01:46 AM
:bowdown :bowdown :bowdown
Morrissey
07-08-2007, 01:51 AM
just because he acts tough in a press conference doesnt mean he is going to win against a guy that has been in the Ring with much better comp and has had world title fights.
i mean Donaire looks good but sure he looks good against
his last ten fights.
R. Barrera (16-4-1) TKO 4
G. Bolanos (4-6-1) UD 8 he couldnt stop this guy.
P. Villalobos (24-28-2) TKO 6
L. Olvera (5-4-2) UD 6 he couldnt knock this guy out.
D. Gonzalez (4-1-0) KO 1
I. Julio (35-6-1) UD 8 his first real comp went the distance
K. Harutyunyan (13-2-3) SD 10 just got past this guy.
J. Cardenas (5-6-1) TKO 2
O. Andrade (35-24-1) UD 12 just got past a guy with 24 loses.
K. Hudgins (5-9-0) TKO 2
now you call that enough to get past a man that has been in the Ring with ranked guys from Ring in the last 5 fights.
i will be very suprised if Donaire lasts until the 10 round.
Love reading this kind of posts here.
Circa
07-08-2007, 02:02 AM
lmao " he couldnt knock this guy out "
so Bolanos and Olivera is way tougher than vic??? :D :D :D or vic just had a weaker chin than those 2?
:D :D :D
Spitfire7
07-08-2007, 02:04 AM
Love reading this kind of posts here.
:D:D:D
Some fans are just too friggin' clueless about the fight game they get easily deceived with stats, or get mesmerized with 0's in the L column. Worst, these kind behave and look to themselves as some f'n "experts." Pathetic, really.:lol:
Dekkers
07-08-2007, 02:19 AM
:D:D:D
Some fans are just too friggin' clueless about the fight game they get easily deceived with stats, or get mesmerized with 0's in the L column. Worst, these kind behave and look to themselves as some f'n "experts." Pathetic, really.:lol:
Yes, yes, we get it, you on the other hand are a boxing genius comming in and saying this after the fight's already happenned :yep
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 02:45 AM
Love reading this kind of posts here.how does get fucked sound. yeah i was wrong but PacDbest is a Philpino who follows Phillipno fighters. wow he picked the first upset ever but has got other fights completely wrong.
Donaire isnt as special as everyone thinks he is. id like to see Darchinyan fight him again but take the fight seriuosly.
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 02:49 AM
:D:D:D
Some fans are just too friggin' clueless about the fight game they get easily deceived with stats, or get mesmerized with 0's in the L column. Worst, these kind behave and look to themselves as some f'n "experts." Pathetic, really.:lol:what so by me winning a boxing tipping comp an by me picking Darchinyan to win makes me clueless.
common you idiot in last weeks tipping comp i picked Evander to win by UD aswell as Povetkin.
also i have picked Mijares over Arce. picked Calzaghe over Lacy.
i also picked Taylor over B-Hop.
but yeah im clueless.
spitfire my friend you are clueless. Darchinyan just got too cocky didnt respect Donaire power and got caught.
Darchinyan would have won the fight if it went the distance. Donaire an absulate nobody got lucky with a lucky punch. its that simple.
now spitfire piss off.
I knew going into the fight Donair was a talented kid, I got to give him props, he did what he had to, Vics always neglected defence and well he paid for it tonight. I knew Vic was gone loose right when he got cought in round 3, you could tell he never recovered from that punch.
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 03:11 AM
You sound like post-fight Darch. :D:D:Dlook i admit i was wrong ive been wrong before about who will win and lose and i dont deny that.
id like to see a rematch though. good call from PacDbest i must admit but at the same time Donaire doesnt lok like he will be as good as Pacquiao thats all im saying.
his style was good against Darchinyan and some fighters fight well against others its that simple. but a rematch would be good. and Darchinyan to work on defense and not just try to knock guys out all the time.
i wrong and i bet you and others have been wrong before aswell as being right. i just didnt think Donaire would be able to take Darchinyans power shots. but he suprised me he fought on the outside and stayed away from Vics shots.
good win for Donaire and it will turn his career in the right direction.
for Vic he needs to learn from it work harder on his weakness's and come back strong.
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 03:21 AM
its okay buddy don't cry
vic is a shit rat fighter
and don't go suckin my cock there filipino fucks you guys are so annoying with your obsession with filipino fighters it makes me sicknah im not going to cry i just think sometimes people think they know it all but yet there one reason for picking Donaire was because they hate darchinyan.
and Pacdbest only picked Donaire because Pacdbest is a fillipino.
it wasnt because he is an expert at picking boxers.
the fact remains Darchinyan was a clear favourite got caught and thats that.
fighters win and sometimes they lose its part of boxing.
id like to see a rematch.
Morrissey
07-08-2007, 03:30 AM
how does get fucked sound. yeah i was wrong but PacDbest is a Philpino who follows Phillipno fighters. wow he picked the first upset ever but has got other fights completely wrong.
Donaire isnt as special as everyone thinks he is. id like to see Darchinyan fight him again but take the fight seriuosly.
I know. Obviously, he would support his fellow Filipino, but the reasons he listed why he thought Donaire can pull off the upset against the heavily-favored punching monster in Darchinyan were quite accurate.
I for one is still not sold that high on Donaire. Not yet. Even if his win was an impressive one, I'd like to see him fight more and show consistency. Until then, I consider this still an upset.
For the rematch? Well, atleast Vic now knows there is someone within his size who can clearly outbox and KO him.:yep
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 03:37 AM
I know. Obviously, he would support his fellow Filipino, but the reasons he listed why he thought Donaire can pull off the upset against the heavily-favored punching monster in Darchinyan were quite accurate.
I for one is still not sold that high on Donaire. Not yet. Even if his win was an impressive one, I'd like to see him fight more and show consistency. Until then, I consider this still an upset.
For the rematch? Well, atleast Vic now knows there is someone within his size who can clearly outbox and KO him.:yepthat is spot on.
i mean Donaire could win this fight then lose his next and we never hear from again. it was an upset. and until we see more of Donaire how can we say other wise.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 03:48 AM
PacDBest really knows his boxing. And he's just proven it by owning his guy. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
Thank u my fellow Pinoy!!!
To my critics & Those who don't believe in me, Now you know who's the best. Those who will take vacation see you later!!!
PInoy Power!!! It's just a start. Condes & Donaire today. Bautista & Penalosa next. Goodluck to Amonsot!!!!
kg0208
07-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Thank u my fellow Pinoy!!!
To my critics & Those who don't believe in me, Now you know who's the best. Those who will take vacation see you later!!!
PInoy Power!!! It's just a start. Condes & Donaire today. Bautista & Penalosa next. Goodluck to Amonsot!!!!
Predict fights that have nothing to do with Filipino fighters. Then you will be good at predicting fights. Otherwise, you are just picking your countrymen because they are your countrymen. They happen to win....if they happen to lose, you won't care because you are just supporting your countrymen.
Remember when you predicted Mosley to lose to Collazo?
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 03:51 AM
Thank u my fellow Pinoy!!!
To my critics & Those who don't believe in me, Now you know who's the best. Those who will take vacation see you later!!!
PInoy Power!!! It's just a start. Condes & Donaire today. Bautista & Penalosa next. Goodluck to Amonsot!!!!Amonsot is going to get a beat down you can bet on that in fact i know Amonsot was hand picked by Don King for Katsidis to beat the piss out of.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 03:54 AM
how does get fucked sound. yeah i was wrong but PacDbest is a Philpino who follows Phillipno fighters. wow he picked the first upset ever but has got other fights completely wrong.
Donaire isnt as special as everyone thinks he is. id like to see Darchinyan fight him again but take the fight seriuosly.
But this the one I started a Thread, & make my own analysis because I've see both fighters fight & also seen Nonito personally. I don't even doubt Nonito & even make a 1 week off bet with underdog. I said the key is Left hook & Movement & I am right!!!
BoppaZoo
07-08-2007, 03:57 AM
But this the one I started a Thread, & make my own analysis because I've see both fighters fight & also seen Nonito personally. I don't even doubt Nonito & even make a 1 week off bet with underdog. I said the key is Left hook & Movement & I am right!!!well if your such an expert tell me how Amonsot is going to beat Michael katsidis.
i cant wait for this one.:lol:
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 03:59 AM
well if your such an expert tell me how Amonsot is going to beat Michael katsidis.
i cant wait for this one.:lol:
I haven't seen enough of both men that's why I say Goodluck only. But I hope he wins.
boxbox
07-08-2007, 04:05 AM
good jod donaire!
C Money
07-08-2007, 05:18 AM
Gotta hand it to PacDbest, he called that shit:good
Im a Darchinyan fan and definitely didnt see that coming, just like the hook that sent Vic down.
Dennis
07-08-2007, 05:21 AM
True, props to PacDbest for his prediction.:yep :good
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 05:22 AM
Gotta hand it to PacDbest, he called that shit:good
Im a Darchinyan fan and definitely didnt see that coming, just like the hook that sent Vic down.
Thank you!!!
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 05:28 AM
PacDbest often goes wild and is often off target, for example, he thought Litzau was going to be something special...
But this was a GREAT prediction and he put it out live, major credit here from me.:good
I still think Litzau will come back & be a title holder.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 05:30 AM
good call pacd. i'm off a two weeks. mad props to your boy. see yall
See ya... I'm not gonna miss you!!! When you comeback pls give me a little respect ok!!!
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 05:35 AM
Predict fights that have nothing to do with Filipino fighters. Then you will be good at predicting fights. Otherwise, you are just picking your countrymen because they are your countrymen. They happen to win....if they happen to lose, you won't care because you are just supporting your countrymen.
Remember when you predicted Mosley to lose to Collazo?
I Picked Mijares. I'm not perfect, I could be wrong. This time I nailed it.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 05:45 AM
I have Nonito's Dance footage. I ask him before if I can post it in youtube. He said no until he become a Champion. Now he's a champion I'll ask him again if I can post it. Nonito is one funny guy I can say he's as entertaining in the dance floor as in the ring.
Good job Nonito, Congratulations!!!!
lefty
07-08-2007, 06:12 AM
well if your such an expert tell me how Amonsot is going to beat Michael katsidis.
i cant wait for this one.:lol:
God you sound like a bitter little punk, this guy called the fight exactly and you're still whinging and trying to argue. Is your name Vic Darchinyan?
Good call PacDBest! :good I wasn't expecting for Donaire to win but good for him!
buddynabuick
07-08-2007, 09:56 AM
Yes, yes, we get it, you on the other hand are a boxing genius comming in and saying this after the fight's already happenned :yep
:lol:
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 10:13 AM
haha yeah mate count me in.
Your boy Nonito looks like a good slick fighter but Vic is going to make him pay for Glenn pretending to be butted . Vic hates that TD next to his name so Nonito won't be dancing after saturday for a while
Puki, have a good vacation!!!!
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 10:48 AM
Predict fights that have nothing to do with Filipino fighters. Then you will be good at predicting fights. Otherwise, you are just picking your countrymen because they are your countrymen. They happen to win....if they happen to lose, you won't care because you are just supporting your countrymen.
Remember when you predicted Mosley to lose to Collazo?
I know your style KG. You never state your opinion on Donaire-Darchinyan coz you're a pussy. You only predict when it sure win for you. You Play safe all the time. You have no right to potshot me here coz you never joined the discussion!!!
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 11:03 AM
so where are the experts discrediting pacdbest in every mythical matchup?? :lol::lol:
as i have said many many times, you just never know what will happen..
i didnt give donaire the chance.. never. he proved me wrong.
wasup johnco!!! Are you gonna watch the World cup At Arco??? Let me know, we can go together. I will call the Donaire's if they gonna watch it, then maybe we can go with their entourage. It will be fun if Boom-Boom, Gerry & the rest of Pinoys wins.
Hitman
07-08-2007, 11:19 AM
Vic looked like a big baby after the fight ,sayin..."Are you going to give me a rematch?" LOL!!!Hamed wanted a rematch too after the BArrera fight but was never seen again. This guy is finished , I was counting the days as to when this retard would be exposed!
Sinew
07-08-2007, 11:20 AM
Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. Kudos:good
Hitman
07-08-2007, 11:31 AM
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It's no secret ... everybody knew Darchi's biggest weakness ... his poor defense and mostly open to counters ... Nonito Donaire just exploited Darchi's biggest weakness to the max ...
That pic sums it up in a nutshell! We wont be hereing about him anymore.
Azania
07-08-2007, 12:16 PM
Vic can reverse this result IMO in the rematch...If it ever happens.There's another twist to this story.Vic,apparently made it clear,before this fight,to his promoters that...win/lose whatever...he's moving up after this fight.He apparently said he's been battling with the weight...Not 100% about these facts...since they came from Colonel Bob Sheridan..and we know how he can talk.
That said,It's gonna take a monumental effort from Vic to beat this kid...and I'm assuming Nonito keeps every skill he has now...Vic's always fought like he always does.Buzzsawing through people to land his famous left hook...He's gonna have to go back to basics to catch this kid.....It's not only gonna take putting his hands up when attacking...Last nite showed that this kid is very fast on his feet...and just as good with his hands...faster than Vic if you ask me.His main problem is gonna be catching this kid.
I had it 3-1 for Nonito going into the 5th.Vic was hitting nothing but air up until then.Got desperate in the 5th,and got stopped.
This kid is more skilled than Pacman IMO...if not physically.Manny is the stronger puncher and probably faster with the hands....but he can only dream about the angles this kid was nailing Vic from.That is skills.I was impressed.
I still say,his biggest asset,he was'nt scared of Vic.He was launching at him confidently from the first bell.But we'll still have to see more of him to give him real P4P-esque props.Until then,last nite was a huge upset.
Great skills on the kid tho'.There must be a few alarm bells ringing in those lower classes after last nite.Just like when Mirajes whooped Arce's butt a few months back.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 12:33 PM
Guys don't get confused with PacDBest prediction and good prediction making.
Pac claimed that Nonito would win cause he dances well all night.
I mean COME ON GUYS:roll:
Nonito won cause of good reflexive counter punching (which was clear to anyone who watched the clip PacD posted on page 1).
Vic fucked up in that he did not change his stance at all for a fighter who counters that well when he came in.
Against a guy with quick counters like that it was Vic's job to keep his hands high when coming in.
EVen so for the first 4 rounds it was pretty competitive and i had it 2-2.
Vic needs to leave these Australian trainers as soon as possible.
He also needs to be a little more serious about his career.
The ego stuff is good but i don't if that is a gym trait too.
If it is he needs to differentiate between that and being serious in practice.
Congrats to Nonito.
He is quality, and if Vic comes back as i think he CAN it will only give Nonito more cred for such a win.
Your the same as KG!! you have no right to Potshot me. Just look back on my opening post again!!!
Originally Posted by PacDbest
Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack.
goldnarms
07-08-2007, 12:34 PM
God you sound like a bitter little punk, this guy called the fight exactly and you're still whinging and trying to argue. Is your name Vic Darchinyan?
:good :good
lightning punch
07-08-2007, 12:37 PM
little armenian looked like he was hit by a big yellow school bus. unbelievable power in the phillippino.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 12:49 PM
I know your style KG. You never state your opinion on Donaire-Darchinyan coz you're a pussy. You only predict when it sure win for you. You Play safe all the time. You have no right to potshot me here coz you never joined the discussion!!!
Stop bitchin. You jump on anyone who doesn't call Pacman the best ever. So I will potshot you all I want.
Play it safe? I have never seen Donaire. So why would I make a prediction? You have never seen alot of fighters....and you look stupid predicting Pacman by KO against them because of it. (Yah, I know you claim to have seen them on Youtube)
And before you pull your usual "I thought you knew everything" crap, you are the one starting threads about how good you are.
As I said, you don't know anything and just picked your countrymen and he happened to win. If he lost, you would be here saying that "it's ok for me to support my countrymen" as per your usual BS.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 02:46 PM
Stop bitchin. You jump on anyone who doesn't call Pacman the best ever. So I will potshot you all I want.
Play it safe? I have never seen Donaire. So why would I make a prediction? You have never seen alot of fighters....and you look stupid predicting Pacman by KO against them because of it. (Yah, I know you claim to have seen them on Youtube)
And before you pull your usual "I thought you knew everything" crap, you are the one starting threads about how good you are.
As I said, you don't know anything and just picked your countrymen and he happened to win. If he lost, you would be here saying that "it's ok for me to support my countrymen" as per your usual BS.
I don't jump on anybody, They're the one who jump on me whenever I Pick Pac against anybody.
I posted Donaire's Footage here. You just want to play it safe. I use youtube footage to analyse fights & I proved it is useful in case of Nonito.
1lehudson
07-08-2007, 03:01 PM
I don't jump on anybody, They're the one who jump on me whenever I Pick Pac against anybody.
I posted Donaire's Footage here. You just want to play it safe. I use youtube footage to analyse fights & I proved it is useful in case of Nonito.yeah yeah...You just finally got one right, :lol:
Nah just fuking with you, its not that shocking, I never thought much of Darchinyan, the cat was cocky as shit, his defense was horrible at best, and his skills....Well he has to learn some before we can talk about them.
I just think that its funny as sh*t that this guy was talking about how badass he was and how he would fight all these huge fighters and knock them all out. Yeah I guess we see that would have been easy for him.
C Money
07-08-2007, 04:26 PM
I Picked Mijares. I'm not perfect, I could be wrong. This time I nailed it.
Dont pay PG any mind!!! He can huff, puff, and talk stuff, but coming from someone like him??:lol:
No one's perfect, no one is ALWAYS RIGHT. You did call a pretty decent upset, celebrate the ones you get right.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 05:51 PM
Dont pay PG any mind!!! He can huff, puff, and talk stuff, but coming from someone like him??:lol:
No one's perfect, no one is ALWAYS RIGHT. You did call a pretty decent upset, celebrate the ones you get right.
HAHA....looks who's talking. No Money needs to move on and stop being a petulant bitch. Hating PBF is a full time obsession....if you have to hate me too, you aint gonna have the time. You're just as bad as the shit you argue against....you don't even know what the discussion is about, but automatically you jump to the opposite side. Hypocrite as usual.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 05:54 PM
I don't jump on anybody, They're the one who jump on me whenever I Pick Pac against anybody.
I posted Donaire's Footage here. You just want to play it safe. I use youtube footage to analyse fights & I proved it is useful in case of Nonito.
BS. You just jumped on me in another thread when someone said Pacman is the MOST underrated fighter on this site and I said he wasn't because he doesn't even get the most hate on this site.
C Money
07-08-2007, 06:03 PM
HAHA....looks who's talking. No Money needs to move on and stop being a petulant bitch. Hating PBF is a full time obsession....if you have to hate me too, you aint gonna have the time.
A Bitch is a bitch, and you're a Bitch with a propensity to LIE,twist, and denigrate.:good
As for PBF?? I hate the way he's manipulated his record and ducked certain fighters. I've always said that if he fought the best, I'd have more respect. Even if he loses:good Calling himself the best ever and not fighting the best opp is a disgrace to the SPORT.
Hey, I picked Darncinyan and have the character to give credit to Pacdbest for picking a pretty decent upset. All you do is talk shit and put it down!! Which is right in line with you're character or LACK OF IT:-(
kg0208
07-08-2007, 06:11 PM
A Bitch is a bitch, and you're a Bitch with a propensity to LIE,twist, and denigrate.:good
As for PBF?? I hate the way he's manipulated his record and ducked certain fighters. I've always said that if he fought the best, I'd have more respect. Even if he loses:good Calling himself the best ever and not fighting the best opp is a disgrace to the SPORT.
Hey, I picked Darncinyan and have the character to give credit to Pacdbest for picking a pretty decent upset. All you do is talk shit and put it down!! Which is right in line with you're character or LACK OF IT:-(
All you just said is that you are a sore loser who got his ass kicked and is still bitter. Stalker....
kg0208
07-08-2007, 06:14 PM
Next time you want to debate No Money....try not backtracking and perhaps get a grasp of the english language. This way you can understand what I'm saying so I don't have to explain it 50 times.
C Money
07-08-2007, 06:25 PM
All you just said is that you are a sore loser who got his ass kicked and is still bitter.
You bash PBF for everything, and lie constantly to make your facts stand up straight. Hatton turned down PBF, but it's PBF who ducked Hatton is your most recent BS attempt at making things up as you go.
I didn't pick....and I pointing out a FACT. PacDbest didn't pick the fighter he thought was best. He picked a Filipino and thats what he always does. Accept it and move on. Not my fault you picked Darchinyan.
Lack of character....don't make me laugh. Your entire posting style is full of nothing but talking shit and lying and name calling. Don't try and take a high road now. Besides....stalking is illegal.
Now?? I'm a LIAR??:lol: :lol: FUCK YOU MUTHERFUCKER!!
I can be rude, crude, and confrontational, BUT I DONT LIE LIKE YOU you little cunt:good
No, I didnt get my ass kicked, only in you're land of delusions, twat. At best you got a draw on a technicality. Ultimately my position, proves out and when confronted with the scenario's? All you did was ignore and kept clinging to a false position.
You can keep huffing and puffing but you'll never blow my house down:lol: There's a difference between real and imagined, and you character SUCKS:good Stalking?? I'm more likely to be ASSAULTING:lol: More made up insinuations, which only display the fantasy world you exist in.
In the end, the guy who didnt pick shit(lack of knowledge) attacks the guy who made a rather bold prediction, and then talks lots of shit:lol: Truly impressive PG, keep showing you're pussy to all:D
kg0208
07-08-2007, 07:07 PM
Now?? I'm a LIAR??:lol: :lol: FUCK YOU MUTHERFUCKER!!
I can be rude, crude, and confrontational, BUT I DONT LIE LIKE YOU you little cunt:good
No, I didnt get my ass kicked, only in you're land of delusions, twat. At best you got a draw on a technicality. Ultimately my position, proves out and when confronted with the scenario's? All you did was ignore and kept clinging to a false position.
You can keep huffing and puffing but you'll never blow my house down:lol: There's a difference between real and imagined, and you character SUCKS:good Stalking?? I'm more likely to be ASSAULTING:lol: More made up insinuations, which only display the fantasy world you exist in.
In the end, the guy who didnt pick shit(lack of knowledge) attacks the guy who made a rather bold prediction, and then talks lots of shit:lol: Truly impressive PG, keep showing you're pussy to all:D
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To all? Though "all" didn't matter to you? If it does, then you should acknowledge the posters who told you that you got your ass handed to you in that debate. Not a single one sided with you. On top of this, you refused to acknowledge that the site you used as proof worked against you later on. :deal
Bottom line...there is no technicality No Money. My position is 100% everytime. Your position is predicated on MY position being present. That makes you wrong. End of story.
Confronted with SCENARIO'S? You tried to make the WBC International Title part of the lineal equation AFTER constantly saying it was the Big 3 belts that mattered. You then added the WBO. Backtracking and manipulating at it's best. My position is the right one. Always has been always will be. You're so confident, start a poll. But you won't....you'll say you don't care what others think....unless they agree with you, then you acknowledge them.
Mind Reader
07-08-2007, 07:19 PM
Shut up C Money! Most everything I have read from KG on here has been very ubias and to the point.... I guess some people cant deal with that. Before you go insulting someone's character take a look in the mirror buddy because your a real asshole!
C Money
07-08-2007, 08:06 PM
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To all? Though "all" didn't matter to you? If it does, then you should acknowledge the posters who told you that you got your ass handed to you in that debate. Not a single one sided with you. On top of this, you refused to acknowledge that the site you used as proof worked against you later on. :deal
Bottom line...there is no technicality No Money. My position is 100% everytime. Your position is predicated on MY position being present. That makes you wrong. End of story.
Confronted with SCENARIO'S? You tried to make the WBC International Title part of the lineal equation AFTER constantly saying it was the Big 3 belts that mattered. You then added the WBO. Backtracking and manipulating at it's best. My position is the right one. Always has been always will be. You're so confident, start a poll. But you won't....you'll say you don't care what others think....unless they agree with you, then you acknowledge them.
Ahhh. PG, you wouldnt know reality, IF it smacked you in the face!!Though I' admit, I'd be willing to give it a shot:lol:
Those couple posters?? Well, did they see the whole argument??:nonono
The first thread gets deleted, then you CHANGE positions and say I said things THAT I DIDNT:D BECAUSE YOU ARE A LYING BITCH:good You're position a 100%??? You said PBF was lineal at 35, and I used the site as PROOF of you being wrong. So much for 100%:lol: I said PBF wasnt lineal or unified at 35, but was respected by Ring as champ, that started the whole thing. After you were clearly wrong, you started a new thread, lied, and twisted.
I did acknowledge that that site contradicted my view that unification WAS REQUIRED to fill a lineal vacancy, even though we have NO IDEA of who's determination of the #1 and #2 ranked fighters they are using are:lol: The bottomline?? Unification enures that WHOEVER's 1,2 actually FIGHT EACH OTHER!!! Thus producing a new lineal champion. PROVIDE THE 1,2 guidelines to be used and source, and then compare it with unification:good I'll be damned, if it doesnt work most of the time, even if not technically required by that site. They have more vacancies than champs and if we had more unification? That wouldnt be the case. Keep on running from that REALITY!!!
As for the scenario's I gave you the Champ's and showed that even with the Big 3(International, not included) that unification still works in the majority of cases. The BO?? Another twist of you're imagination!! I said all a long and long before that thread, that if you include the BO, UNIFICATION WORKS 95% of the time. That wasnt "added" it was there ALL A LONG, bitch.
As for the BC International title?? It's another way for Org's to play their bullshit games. You discredit the fighter by the belT??:lol: Funny the BC international title was on the Line with Pac at feather. Also Hatton is the BC international title holder and STILL lineal champ at 40.:good So while you dismiss it, it has REAL CHAMPIONS which you're willing to take out of the equation. You're perspective STILL DOESNT HOLD WATER or have a definitive position.
So PG??:finger you are a cunt and it continues to show over time:D
C Money
07-08-2007, 08:37 PM
Shut up C Money! Most everything I have read from KG on here has been very ubias and to the point.... I guess some people cant deal with that. Before you go insulting someone's character take a look in the mirror buddy because your a real asshole!
Mindreader:lol: Thanks for you're contribution, but I'll defend myself at all times. Unless you've read all that is referenced between he and I? Fuck you:good from one asshole to another:lol:
kg0208
07-08-2007, 08:54 PM
Ahhh. PG, you wouldnt know reality, IF it smacked you in the face!!Though I' admit, I'd be willing to give it a shot:lol:
Those couple posters?? Well, did they see the whole argument??:nonono
The first thread gets deleted, then you CHANGE positions and say I said things THAT I DIDNT:D BECAUSE YOU ARE A LYING BITCH:good You're position a 100%??? You said PBF was lineal at 35, and I used the site as PROOF of you being wrong. So much for 100%:lol: I said PBF wasnt lineal or unified at 35, but was respected by Ring as champ, that started the whole thing. After you were clearly wrong, you started a new thread, lied, and twisted.
I did acknowledge that that site contradicted my view that unification WAS REQUIRED to fill a lineal vacancy, even though we have NO IDEA of who's determination of the #1 and #2 ranked fighters they are using are:lol: The bottomline?? Unification enures that WHOEVER's 1,2 actually FIGHT EACH OTHER!!! Thus producing a new lineal champion. PROVIDE THE 1,2 guidelines to be used and source, and then compare it with unification:good I'll be damned, if it doesnt work most of the time, even if not technically required by that site. They have more vacancies than champs and if we had more unification? That wouldnt be the case. Keep on running from that REALITY!!!
As for the scenario's I gave you the Champ's and showed that even with the Big 3(International, not included) that unification still works in the majority of cases. The BO?? Another twist of you're imagination!! I said all a long and long before that thread, that if you include the BO, UNIFICATION WORKS 95% of the time. That wasnt "added" it was there ALL A LONG, bitch.
As for the BC International title?? It's another way for Org's to play their bullshit games. You discredit the fighter by the belT??:lol: Funny the BC international title was on the Line with Pac at feather. Also Hatton is the BC international title holder and STILL lineal champ at 40.:good So while you dismiss it, it has REAL CHAMPIONS which you're willing to take out of the equation. You're perspective STILL DOESNT HOLD WATER or have a definitive position.
So PG??:finger you are a cunt and it continues to show over time:D
LMAO....You can't do math can you? 95% of the time is not ALL the time. 100% trumps 95%.
Your position: Unification is required to create a new champion. Unification is the Big 3.
My position: #1 vs #2 are required to create a new lineal champion, regardless of who holds what belts.
You admit that yours works MOST of the time. Mine works ALL of the time. Yours ONLY works with my position being part of the equation. If one of the top 2 doesn't hold an ABC belt, then unification doesn't create a lineal champion. Your position is predicated on mine. In my equation, the unification is unnecessary and is only present because the top 2 fighters often, but not always, hold belts.
You even went as far as to try and add the WBC International title in the case of the 130lb division as part of your unification strategy when you realized that Pacman (#1 fighter in the division) wouldn't be part of a unifcation tourney and therefore wouldn't create a lineal title. We all had a good laugh at that one. Then after your NUMEROUS (and I quoted them) posts of the BIG 3 being necessary, you tried to add the WBO at the end.
The other posters in the thread throughout said you weren't making any sense. So yah, they read it. And you looked exactly as you do now. A sore loser grasping at straws.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 08:58 PM
Mindreader:lol: Thanks for you're contribution, but I'll defend myself at all times. Unless you've read all that is referenced between he and I? Fuck you:good from one asshole to another:lol:
Unless you've read all that is referenced between he and I? Fuck you:good
Proof of a hypocrite. You jumped all over me in this thread without even knowing what PacDbest and I were talking about. Then you say that to another poster? :deal
Priceless.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 09:05 PM
KG, it's easy to predict because we know we have better fighters. It's just a matter of time, Pinoys will dominate the lower weight divisions. More of them in the pipeline.
So your position is that you will continue to pick Filipino fighters because they are simply better fighters than their counterparts. Fair enough. But if they lose, be prepared to deal with that situation.
But don't be dishonest. PacDbest believes his countrymen are better fighters because he is their countrymen. That is not unusual. But he shouldn't act like he handicapped the fight. He didn't, he just went with his countrymen. I wonder what his prediction of Bobby Pacquiao vs Soto was?
goldnarms
07-08-2007, 09:14 PM
So your position is that you will continue to pick Filipino fighters because they are simply better fighters than their counterparts. Fair enough. But if they lose, be prepared to deal with that situation.
But don't be dishonest. PacDbest believes his countrymen are better fighters because he is their countrymen. That is not unusual. But he shouldn't act like he handicapped the fight. He didn't, he just went with his countrymen. I wonder what his prediction of Bobby Pacquiao vs Soto was?
KG,
Give the guy a little credit, yes he did ultimately go with the guy because he is a fellow pinoy but the reasons he mentioned were right on the money.
Unlike many huggers he did bother to offer rational explantions to support his dogma. He said movement, size, reflexes and ultimately the left hook would win the day and they did.
Let the dude have his moment in the sun. He may miss in the future but he went against conventional wisdom and did win the day.
goldn
kg0208
07-08-2007, 09:18 PM
KG,
Give the guy a little credit, yes he did ultimately go with the guy because he is a fellow pinoy but the reasons he mentioned were right on the money.
Unlike many huggers he did bother to offer rational explantions support his dogma. He said movement, size, reflexes and ultimately the left hook would win the day and they did.
Let the dude have his moment in the sun. He may miss in the future but he went against conventional wisdom and did win the day.
goldn
I did let him have his moment. Wouldn't have said a word to him if he hadn't come into a thread entirely unrelated to this and said something about me that was unnecessary. The only reason he did so is because I said something other than Pacman is the best ever.
Either way, he only supported his dogma this time. If he wants credit then he shouldn't dog other fighters who are not Filipino and admit when he is wrong. He once called Mosley an overrated fighter who had accomplished nothing. He said Willie Pep wasn't any good because he didn't have the power of Pac.
flem1
07-08-2007, 09:21 PM
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goldnarms
07-08-2007, 09:22 PM
I did let him have his moment. Wouldn't have said a word to him if he hadn't come into a thread entirely unrelated to this and said something about me that was unnecessary. The only reason he did so is because I said something other than Pacman is the best ever.
Either way, he only supported his dogma this time. If he wants credit then he shouldn't dog other fighters who are not Filipino and admit when he is wrong. He once called Mosley an overrated fighter who had accomplished nothing. He said Willie Pep wasn't any good because he didn't have the power of Pac.
Oh god
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 09:27 PM
KG,
Give the guy a little credit, yes he did ultimately go with the guy because he is a fellow pinoy but the reasons he mentioned were right on the money.
Unlike many huggers he did bother to offer rational explantions to support his dogma. He said movement, size, reflexes and ultimately the left hook would win the day and they did.
Let the dude have his moment in the sun. He may miss in the future but he went against conventional wisdom and did win the day.
goldn
Thanks mate!!!
KG has a Grudge in me coz I OWNED him many times in the past. KG in knowlegeable but he is always full of Crap. He's Ego is as High as PBF he won't admit his mistakes. When he's cornered he'll post a long Narrative sentences that just goes around in circles. I don't bother much with him anymore.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 09:32 PM
Thanks mate!!!
KG has a Grudge in me coz I OWNED him many times in the past. KG in knowlegeable but he is always full of Crap. He's Ego is as High as PBF he won't admit his mistakes. When he's cornered he'll post a long Narrative sentences that just goes around in circles. I don't bother much with him anymore.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Remember this?
Thou shall not touch PBF's nuts or else KG will defend it!!!
Wa sup KG, I haven't seen you joining our dicussion lately?
I think Pac is slighly underrated by most ESB members in terms of ATG matchup. Most of you favored retired & expired HOFamer like Gomez, Sanchez, against Pac. The reason here is because that's the only way they can win an argument coz they can't find one fighter right now to beat Pac. It terms of P4p ratings Pac should be higher than PBF coz Pac separate himself against co P4p & HOF competition. While PBF has a Close wins against Castillo & DLH.
Don't try and take some kind of high road. You hold the grudge. You even mentioned that I don't join in your discussions. You're the one who felt the need to act like a child here and so now I am addressing your relentless stupidity again.
The post you were responding to have nothing to do with defending PBF. It was about someone saying Pacman is the most underrated fighter on ESB, which he's not.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 09:41 PM
So your position is that you will continue to pick Filipino fighters because they are simply better fighters than their counterparts. Fair enough. But if they lose, be prepared to deal with that situation.
But don't be dishonest. PacDbest believes his countrymen are better fighters because he is their countrymen. That is not unusual. But he shouldn't act like he handicapped the fight. He didn't, he just went with his countrymen. I wonder what his prediction of Bobby Pacquiao vs Soto was?
Of course I want my Filipino to win anytime, but in Donaire case I made my Analysis, In case of BobPac I'm just hoping he wins & he shows he almost did by Wobbling Soto. Did you see me Predict a Viloria or Amonsot fights or even Gorres fight???? I have my own Favorites & those guys where I'm interested studying matchup. AJ Banal, Bautista, Penalosa, Mijares, Kelly, Cotto these are my other Favs & I will give you predictions whenever these guys fight.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Of course I want my Filipino to win anytime, but in Donaire case I made my Analysis, In case of BobPac I'm just hoping he wins & he shows he almost did by Wobbling Soto. Did you see me Predict a Viloria or Amonsot fights or even Gorres fight???? I have my own Favorites & those guys where I'm interested studying matchup. AJ Banal, Bautista, Penalosa, Mijares, Kelly, Cotto these are my other Favs & I will give you predictions whenever these guys fight.
Wobbling isn't almost winning. It's exactly that...wobbling.
No, I didn't see you predict anything about those fights. But I also never see you predict any of those guys you just named. Nor participate in any of their threads. Those are just names you have handy to toss out whenever someone mentions that you only talk about Pinoy fighters. I don't care that you do...just own up to it.
Like I said above (read the edited post) don't try and take some sort of high road. You started with me, I haven't addressed you in ages. Your analysis often involves quite a bit of bias and guess work. This time you happened to be right. When you are wrong...you always pretend like you don't see what everyone else is saying.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 09:50 PM
Wobbling isn't almost winning. It's exactly that...wobbling.
No, I didn't see you predict anything about those fights. But I also never see you predict any of those guys you just named. Nor participate in any of their threads. Those are just names you have handy to toss out whenever someone mentions that you only talk about Pinoy fighters. I don't care that you do...just own up to it.
Like I said above (read the edited post) don't try and take some sort of high road. You started with me, I haven't addressed you in ages. Your analysis often involves quite a bit of bias and guess work. This time you happened to be right. When you are wrong...you always pretend like you don't see what everyone else is saying.
Kg when did you predict a fight where you pick the Big underdog & you nailed what will happen in the fight??? Please give me a link to Prove how smart you are?
kg0208
07-08-2007, 09:59 PM
Kg when did you predict a fight where you pick the Big underdog & you nailed what will happen in the fight??? Please give me a link to Prove how smart you are?
What the hell does that have to do with anything? I never said I picked an underdog to win. I am not criticizing YOU for picking an underdog to win. Again, I am criticizing you because you felt the need to make that stupid post to me when I said Pacman was not underrated. So I am pointing out the truth. I have never seen you pick a fight that doesn't involve a Pinoy nor do I ever see you pick AGAINST them. So anytime one wins, you are going to be right.
I don't often pick the underdog to win. And the last fight I was wrong about was Clottey-Margarito. What does picking an underdog to win have to do with the how smart you are in the vast array of fighters and subject matter that is boxing? Everyone here including you thinks they are smart and right....why you try to use that as an insult I will never get. You just got blasted in the Gomez thread for never admitting your mistakes.
PacDbest
07-08-2007, 10:08 PM
What the hell does that have to do with anything? I never said I picked an underdog to win. I am not criticizing YOU for picking an underdog to win. Again, I am criticizing you because you felt the need to make that stupid post to me when I said Pacman was not underrated. So I am pointing out the truth. I have never seen you pick a fight that doesn't involve a Pinoy nor do I ever see you pick AGAINST them. So anytime one wins, you are going to be right.
I don't often pick the underdog to win. And the last fight I was wrong about was Clottey-Margarito. What does picking an underdog to win have to do with the how smart you are in the vast array of fighters and subject matter that is boxing? Everyone here including you thinks they are smart and right....why you try to use that as an insult I will never get. You just got blasted in the Gomez thread for never admitting your mistakes.
That's what I'm saying... you've got nothing to Brag about. You only Predict a sure winner that happen to have your skin color.
kg0208
07-08-2007, 10:11 PM
That's what I'm saying... you've got nothing to Brag about. You only Predict a sure winner that happen to have your skin color.
I didn't brag. You are the one talking about how smart I think I am, not me. Speaking of which, can you point me in the direction of the thread I started calling myself the best? I can point you in the direction of yours! So lets not start the "you think you are great" crap.
I predict sure winners who have my skin color? I picked Wlad over Brewster. I just picked Margarito over Williams in the avatar bet. Do they have my skin color? Do you even KNOW my skin color? And Margo vs Williams isn't a sure bet.
Mind Reader
07-08-2007, 11:03 PM
That's what I'm saying... you've got nothing to Brag about. You only Predict a sure winner that happen to have your skin color.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
kg0208
07-09-2007, 01:48 AM
KG, that's what he believes in. You might as well respect it. You need not make a mountain out of a molehill.
And vice versa....he makes many mountains on his own by claiming other insult him or Pacman by not picking him in every fight.
I get what you're saying. But believing something and then pushing that belief on others and insulting them for not agreeing are different things. Respect is both ways, and he himself shows very little respect when he says Willie Pep wasn't a good fighter.
I do however grasp what you're getting at.
kg0208
07-09-2007, 01:50 AM
Aren't you black, KG? I'm brown and I'm proud of it. :good
Tecnically both black and brown. Half Black half PR. But since I only KNOW the black side of my family, I tend to think of myself as black.
I do however often pick against black fighters....that was my point. Wait....PR is brown right?
kg0208
07-09-2007, 02:12 AM
PR as in Puerto Rican? I think there are some black Puerto Ricans and some Latinos.
Yah, Puerto Rican. My father was full blooded straight from the island. I just didn't know until I was 15.
having pride in a race is the beginning of racism, people should be proud of their culture and not really their skin color.
and i don't care what anyone says, you can't be proud of something that's destiny you had no control over
lmao
brown/black aren't impervious to skin cancer theres just less of a chance because theres more pigment in the skin. lmao that most the most fuckin random thing someone could say. gaveme a good laugh tho. good job buddy!
having pride in your race doesnt begin racism... belittling other races is what begins it...
kg0208
07-09-2007, 03:41 AM
i think some sort of racism exists in every culture,
having pride may not be the beginning, but it is an indicator of racism because how can someone be proud of something that they had no part in.
how did being black, white, brown make you become a ''better' person. because if you were to say that then you would be implying that a specific race is 'better' than another.
I don't like to get into racial stuff. But you can be proud of things you have no control over.
Being proud of a your parents, being proud of your friends, etc.
C Money
07-09-2007, 01:29 PM
LMAO....You can't do math can you? 95% of the time is not ALL the time. 100% trumps 95%.
Your position: Unification is required to create a new champion. Unification is the Big 3.
My position: #1 vs #2 are required to create a new lineal champion, regardless of who holds what belts.
You admit that yours works MOST of the time. Mine works ALL of the time. Yours ONLY works with my position being part of the equation. If one of the top 2 doesn't hold an ABC belt, then unification doesn't create a lineal champion. Your position is predicated on mine. In my equation, the unification is unnecessary and is only present because the top 2 fighters often, but not always, hold belts.
You even went as far as to try and add the WBC International title in the case of the 130lb division as part of your unification strategy when you realized that Pacman (#1 fighter in the division) wouldn't be part of a unifcation tourney and therefore wouldn't create a lineal title. We all had a good laugh at that one. Then after your NUMEROUS (and I quoted them) posts of the BIG 3 being necessary, you tried to add the WBO at the end.
The other posters in the thread throughout said you weren't making any sense. So yah, they read it. And you looked exactly as you do now. A sore loser grasping at straws.
PG, WHO's #1, #2??? The question you cannot or will not answer!!! So how in the hell can you say you're scenario works when YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS??:lol: :lol: Utter GENIUS by a complete fuckwad who when confronted on it and given scenario's DOES NOTHING but claim to be righter than right:nut Even though you were HALF WRONG(PBF NOT LINEAL at 35) in the scheme of the debate:lol:
Again, for the 15th time, I originally said REQUIRED and that site contradicted it. It also seems to contradict itself and you're adopted position without specifying how the 1,2 is determined. So again, what 1,2 and how do we know what belts they hold??
Hey PG, FUCK YOU, i said throughout and BEFORE that thread in different conversations that adding the BO to the equation works almost always. It wasnt added late, to reject you, hell the big3 would still work much better than this mysterious 1,2 who RARELY EVER seem to face off, unless a UNIFICATION PROCESS HAPPENS:lol:
Do you know the meaning of 100%??:lol: If the scenario unfolds so well?? Why is there less than 50% of the titles not vacant??:lol: You are a 100% lying bitch:good
Fuck you and those that would side with you, bullshit is as bullshit does. You simply talk, twist, lie, and estimate that all those posters saw the first thread which was deleted:scaredas: Come up with definitive answers THEN TALK SHIT.
As for the BC international, again it's BS org games but that "title' is repesented by at least two real Champs, and one curently lineal. I wouldnt exclude those guy's simply by the belt. That's the idea of a 1,2 but we dont have a definitive 1,2 so we are left with WHAT IT IS!!! Alpha org games designed to convolute and fuck up the boxing game.
C Money
07-09-2007, 01:36 PM
Proof of a hypocrite. You jumped all over me in this thread without even knowing what PacDbest and I were talking about. Then you say that to another poster? :deal
Priceless.
I jumped on YOU because we have an ASSHOLE who made NO prediction on admitted lack of knowledge, givng shit to a GUY who made a fairly bold prediction and turned out to be right:good
Truthfully, I simply told Pacdbest, to IGNORE a piece of shit like yourself, because of the way in which you carry yourself. You're a twat and it's clear time after time.
No one is always right, but for you to shit on someone who should be enjoyng a time he got it right, is :-( but indicative of what you are.
As for some fucking idiot calling himslef a Mindreader, jumping in waaaaaay late in the game with his pom poms and your sperm on his lips??:lol: Fuck both of you:good
kg0208
07-09-2007, 01:37 PM
PG, WHO's #1, #2??? The question you cannot or will not answer!!! So how in the hell can you say you're scenario works when YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS??:lol: :lol: Utter GENIUS by a complete fuckwad who when confronted on it and given scenario's DOES NOTHING but claim to be righter than right:nut Even though you were HALF WRONG(PBF NOT LINEAL at 35) in the scheme of the debate:lol:
Again, for the 15th time, I originally said REQUIRED and that site contradicted it. It also seems to contradict itself and you're adopted position without specifying how the 1,2 is determined. So again, what 1,2 and how do we know what belts they hold??
Hey PG, FUCK YOU, i said throughout and BEFORE that thread in different conversations that adding the BO to the equation works almost always. It wasnt added late, to reject you, hell the big3 would still work much better than this mysterious 1,2 who RARELY EVER seem to face off, unless a UNIFICATION PROCESS HAPPENS:lol:
Do you know the meaning of 100%??:lol: If the scenario unfolds so well?? Why is there less than 50% of the titles not vacant??:lol: You are a 100% lying bitch:good
Fuck you and those that would side with you, bullshit is as bullshit does. You simply talk, twist, lie, and estimate that all those posters saw the first thread which was deleted:scaredas: Come up with definitive answers THEN TALK SHIT.
As for the BC international, again it's BS org games but that "title' is repesented by at least two real Champs, and one curently lineal. I wouldnt exclude those guy's simply by the belt. That's the idea of a 1,2 but we dont have a definitive 1,2 so we are left with WHAT IT IS!!! Alpha org games designed to convolute and fuck up the boxing game.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
You want to talk about this, start another thread. Not gonna hijack this one. It's an old argument. If you won the debate, which seems to be your goal, you would have dropped it long ago. You trying to convince me or you?
BTW, I answered a long time ago that #1 and #2 are chosen by general consensus. Ring is part of that consensus, so are the sanctioning bodies and other reputable publications. How do we know Pacman is the #1 fighter at 130 and JMM is considered #2?
kg0208
07-09-2007, 01:41 PM
I jumped on YOU because we have an ASSHOLE who made NO prediction on admitted lack of knowledge, givng shit to a GUY who made a fairly bold prediction and turned out to be right:good
Truthfully, I simply told Pacdbest, to IGNORE a piece of shit like yourself, because of the way in which you carry yourself. You're a twat and it's clear time after time.
No one is always right, but for you to shit on someone who should be enjoyng a time he got it right, is :-( but indicative of what you are.
As for some fucking idiot calling himslef a Mindreader, jumping in waaaaaay late in the game with his pom poms and your sperm on his lips??:lol: Fuck both of you:good
So you're a hypocrite. Because you don't know why I jumped on him. Like you said, if you didn't read the whole interaction, then you should keep out of it. Your words....
I didn't give him shit because of his prediction. You would know that if you weren't so busy trying to fight with me because you lost some long winded debate a month ago. Bored now...
PacDbest
07-09-2007, 03:35 PM
KG, get da pac out of here!!! Look what you've done to this thread!! From the start this thread is on topic. When you gate crash the Party it turns into none sense off topic agenda of yours. Go start another Thread & vent your trash there!!!
kg0208
07-09-2007, 03:37 PM
KG, get da pac out of here!!! Look what you've done to this thread!! From the start this thread is on topic. When you gate crash the Party it turns into none sense off topic agenda of yours. Go start another Thread & vent your trash there!!!
Don't copy me and pretend it was your idea.
BTW, the fights over....so this thread isn't about the original topic now anyways is it?
PacDbest
07-09-2007, 03:38 PM
Tecnically both black and brown. Half Black half PR. But since I only KNOW the black side of my family, I tend to think of myself as black.
I do however often pick against black fighters....that was my point. Wait....PR is brown right?
Look your not even Proud of your Heritage. You're part Black, just be Proud of it!!!
kg0208
07-09-2007, 03:42 PM
Look your not even Proud of your Heritage. You're part Black, just be Proud of it!!!
That was one of the dumbest comments you ever made. I am not proud of my heritage? Where did you get that from that post you quoted? Exactly what should I be "Just proud of"?
Hey PacD. Notice how you are doing exactly what I said you do. When you are wrong, you ignore it and act like it never happened. What happened to the "I only pick fighters who have the same skin tone as me"? I notice you haven't acknowledged you made a mistake in saying that.
charlievint
07-09-2007, 05:16 PM
Vic by KO, this other guy is a powder puff and hits like a girl. Hes gonna get steamrolled and bullied out of the ring like every other Vic opponent.
:rofl :rofl Great call!:good
C Money
07-10-2007, 12:06 AM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
You want to talk about this, start another thread. Not gonna hijack this one. It's an old argument. If you won the debate, which seems to be your goal, you would have dropped it long ago. You trying to convince me or you?
BTW, I answered a long time ago that #1 and #2 are chosen by general consensus. Ring is part of that consensus, so are the sanctioning bodies and other reputable publications. How do we know Pacman is the #1 fighter at 130 and JMM is considered #2?
General Consesnus???? The Great ambigous answer in the sky that leaves you the winner:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dont bring up ring, because that site IN THE SAME ARTICLE that contradicted my required statement, that site REJECTED RING AS WELL:D Funny that consensus gets reached when unification happens FOR THE MOST PART!!!!:good
See PG, i was gracious in giving you a DRAW as you were wrong about Floyd being lineal at 35 and according to the site i used, i was wrong BY TECHNICALITY of their statement. Ultimately, my position proves more right or OCCURS MORE OFTEN than you're adopted and mythical consesnus stance. Yet in that lying, twisting, and imaginative BRAIN OF YOURS it equated to you being100% right:lol: My position is and has been more in line with REALITY and history based on real events, you convince yourself of whatever you like:good
I can walk away from disagreements and debates when the other party at least CONDUCTS themselves in a legit manner. You're lies and BS took it to another level and I told you then, I wouldn't allow a piece of shit with you're behavior get away with it. I see more of you're RIDICULOUS BEHAVIOR in this thread, attacking someone who made a rather bold and correct prediction when YOU MADE NONE. Right there, YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT to jump on this guy. But?? Being the asshole you are?? Wa la, its the FULL OF SHIT, PG SHOW. If you have some hsitory with Pac address it in a proper format and let this man HAVE the moment in the sun, HE EARNED!!!!!
kg0208
07-10-2007, 12:10 AM
General Consesnus???? The Great ambigous answer in the sky that leaves you the winner:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dont bring up ring, because that site IN THE SAME ARTICLE that contradicted my required statement, that site REJECTED RING AS WELL:D Funny that consensus gets reached when unification happens FOR THE MOST PART!!!!:good
See PG, i was gracious in giving you a DRAW as you were wrong about Floyd being lineal at 35 and according to the site i used, i was wrong BY TECHNICALITY of their statement. Ultimately, my position proves more right or OCCURS MORE OFTEN than you're adopted and mythical consesnus stance. Yet in that lying, twisting, and imaginative BRAIN OF YOURS it equated to you being100% right:lol: My position is and has been more in line with REALITY and history based on real events, you convince yourself of whatever you like:good
I can walk away from disagreements and debates when the other party at least CONDUCTS themselves in a legit manner. You're lies and BS took it to another level and I told you then, I wouldn't allow a piece of shit with you're behavior get away with it. I see more of you're RIDICULOUS BEHAVIOR in this thread, attacking someone who made a rather bold and correct prediction when YOU MADE NONE. Right there, YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT to jump on this guy. But?? Being the asshole you are?? Wa la, its the FULL OF SHIT, PG SHOW. If you have some hsitory with Pac address it in a proper format and let this man HAVE the moment in the sun, HE EARNED!!!!!
You were wrong. No technicality. Move on. Attack me all you like, it just makes you look silly.
You look even more assanine when you keep saying I attacked PacDbest for making a prediction, when I already quoted the post that started the whole argument made by HIM and not me. That's called proof....you should look into what that is.
C Money
07-10-2007, 12:11 AM
To Pacdbest?? Hey, i apologize for partcipating in taking this thread in a different direction. But when you deal with lying little bitches like PG, things can get messy:good
Ironically?? I didnt listen to my own advice of ignoring him:D Guess it's easier said than done!! From what I've been through with this fag, he's the #1 person on ESB, I'd love to meet in a dark alley:good
Enjoy you're victory :party
My apologies again and I will leave it alone.:happy
kg0208
07-10-2007, 12:15 AM
To Pacdbest?? Hey, i apologize for partcipating in taking this thread in a different direction. But when you deal with lying little bitches like PG, things can get messy:good
Ironically?? I didnt listen to my own advice of ignoring him:D Guess it's easier said than done!! From what I've been through with this fag, he's the #1 person on ESB, I'd love to meet in a dark alley:good
Enjoy you're victory :party
My apologies again and I will leave it alone.:happy
Yay, Keyboard warrior all riled up about something someone says on the internet so much so that he wants physical violence.
Gotta love hypocrites like you.
Oddly enough....you both say you want to ignore me and act like you have some kind of policy. But you both respond to my posts religiously even when I am not paying you any attention.
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 08:26 AM
To Pacdbest?? Hey, i apologize for partcipating in taking this thread in a different direction. But when you deal with lying little bitches like PG, things can get messy:good
Ironically?? I didnt listen to my own advice of ignoring him:D Guess it's easier said than done!! From what I've been through with this fag, he's the #1 person on ESB, I'd love to meet in a dark alley:good
Enjoy you're victory :party
My apologies again and I will leave it alone.:happy
Yup..KG the Thread Hija(ass)cker!!!
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 08:33 AM
This was a Nice Prediction Thread, only 17 page but about 7,600 views. I'm still enjoying my Victory when KG inserted off topic Nonsense. He don't even join in predicting this fight. Packing Hijacker!!!
PH|LLA
09-12-2007, 09:43 AM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
amazing post
koko of phil
09-12-2007, 10:55 AM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.
Amen.
Nice post. :good
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 06:41 PM
amazing post
Thanks for the appreciation..
I brought this thread back up coz KG recently called me Moron & Idiot.
Hey KG... No Moron or Idiot can Predict & Analyze a fight with accuracy like I demonstrated here.
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 06:45 PM
Nice avatar, PDB. Pac is really the best! :good
After years posting here I finally figured out how to insert Avatar. I never really tried putting avatar before but in my first try I did it right. I'm still looking for a better one, I might replaced it with my son's Picture soon.
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 06:51 PM
Amen.
Nice post. :good
Thanks!!
My next upset prediction is Diaconu over Dawson. I'll ellaborate this fight more a week before the fight on Sept 29.
knockout
09-12-2007, 06:52 PM
I like Darchinyan, I like KO artist, I like fighters who fights anybody. I've seen a Bunch of Darchinyan fights. Even rate him top of the 112 & top 15 P4P.
I've seen only about 3 fights of Nonito in youtube. But I met the guy & his Brother Glen personally twice at a Party & we talk a lot about Boxing. He said he beat Jason Litzau in the Amateur. Also they thought that they we're robbed by the Judges when he fought Viloria in the Olympic trials. He is supposed to be lined up against Arce but Arce lost to mijares. That's why I'm not surprised when I heard he got This title shot.
Based on my observation Donaire is very skillfull, quick with his hands & feet, has some Power, full of confidence, very smart, in short he's the Filipino version of PBF. Personality wise this guy are way different than his Brother Glen who is the Shy or low key guy. Nonito, in the Parties that we've been in, is the light of the dancefloor. He dances all night long proves he has an endless stamina. Good dancer too means he has good Hand, eye & feet coordination.
The only question is... can he handle Vic's Power?? I ask his cornermen if he has a good chin, they say he was woobled once but recovered & KO the opponent shortly.
I've seen replay of the dachinyan-Pacheco fight, in this fight Pacheco was outboxing Vic, Then the fireworks interrupt the fight, Vic recovered & KOed Pacheco shortly. Pacheco is one of the tallest fighter Vic has fought.
The reason I smell upset is because Nonito is a Legit 5'6" & a half. he's quicker & he can move. Vic will have a hardtime finding him. Nonito has a lethal left hook & I see them landing everytime Vic tries to attack. I don't think Darchinyan can be KOed, but I see Donaire outboxing him in a lopsided fashion. Kinda like what Mijares did to ARce.:nod :good
kg0208
09-12-2007, 06:53 PM
Thanks for the appreciation..
I brought this thread back up coz KG recently called me Moron & Idiot.
Hey KG... No Moron or Idiot can Predict & Analyze a fight with accuracy like I demonstrated here.
Sure they can. Many idiots do that here all the time.
I called you an idiot because you can't make a point and stick to it.
You said "Pacman has fought all the top competition in his weight class."
I point out to you that Pacman has only fought one top 10 fighter in his class and none of the champions. You ask me who is more proven, Pacman or the champions.
That has nothing to do with what you said about him fighting the best competition. You're question is only valid if we are debating who the best fighter is. We aren't debating that....we are debating whether Pacman has fought the top fighters at 130.
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 07:05 PM
Sure they can. Many idiots do that here all the time.
I called you an idiot because you can't make a point and stick to it.
You said "Pacman has fought all the top competition in his weight class."
I point out to you that Pacman has only fought one top 10 fighter in his class and none of the champions. You ask me who is more proven, Pacman or the champions.
That has nothing to do with what you said about him fighting the best competition. You're question is only valid if we are debating who the best fighter is. We aren't debating that....we are debating whether Pacman has fought the top fighters at 130.
Hey KG, Do you have a Prediction Thread you started you can Proud About??? Don't give me PBF over Baldomir. Give me a big underdog you predicted to win.
kg0208
09-12-2007, 07:09 PM
Hey KG, Do you have a Prediction Thread you started you can Proud About??? Don't give me PBF over Baldomir. Give me a big underdog you predicted to win.
Proving my point still. What does this have to do with what I just said?
And I called you an idiot by the way after you COMPLETELY changed something I said and wanted to argue about it.
I said "Pacman beat a past his prime but still very good MAB"
You said "KG you keep talking about Pac beating an aging and shot MAB"
Then I called you idiot.
Let me ask you an off topic question since you seem so fond of it. Do you have a prediction thread about ANOTHER fighter who is NOT Filipino you can be proud of?
Thanks!!
My next upset prediction is Diaconu over Dawson. I'll ellaborate this fight more a week before the fight on Sept 29.
Yea man go Diaconu!:bbb
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 07:30 PM
Proving my point still. What does this have to do with what I just said?
And I called you an idiot by the way after you COMPLETELY changed something I said and wanted to argue about it.
I said "Pacman beat a past his prime but still very good MAB"
You said "KG you keep talking about Pac beating an aging and shot MAB"
Then I called you idiot.
Let me ask you an off topic question since you seem so fond of it. Do you have a prediction thread about ANOTHER fighter who is NOT Filipino you can be proud of?
SEE.... how you don't play with the rules....KG The Hijack(ass)er. We already debating this in the other thread.
I just said Diaconu over Dawson you Idiot!!!!
kg0208
09-12-2007, 07:36 PM
SEE.... how you don't play with the rules....KG The Hijack(ass)er. We already debating this in the other thread.
I just said Diaconu over Dawson you Idiot!!!!
Yes, and as I just told you, you are still wrong. Even changing your meaning you only get to add one fighter meaning the statement Pacman ALMOST beat all the top competition at his weight STILL is false. He has beaten Morales (not lineal BTW...Mayweather was the last Lineal SFW champion) and MAB. There are still 4 other champions out there.
As I just told you, you can't make concise points, stay on topic, or think straight. And you have too many excuses.
I asked you if you had a thread....not a pick BTW.
Pac IMO your picks have nothing to do with great boxing knowledge, but rather your personal bias towards pinoy fighters. In this thread you claimed Donaire would win because he "stayed up all night dancing and thus had superior fitness".... Maybe if you gave a detailed technical analysis we would be more convinced, or if you could pick fights consistently that didn't involve pinoy fighters.
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 07:48 PM
Pac IMO your picks have nothing to do with great boxing knowledge, but rather your personal bias towards pinoy fighters. In this thread you claimed Donaire would win because he "stayed up all night dancing and thus had superior fitness".... Maybe if you gave a detailed technical analysis we would be more convinced, or if you could pick fights consistently that didn't involve pinoy fighters.
Didn't I Mentioned LETHAL Left Hook, Movement as weapon for Donaire???
How did you predict this Fight MSTR??? Did you describe it exactly????
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 08:14 PM
lol @ the person who smells an upset. There will only be one way of victory in this fight ... and that'll be Darchinyan by brutal KO!! I'd say 4 out of 5 times Donaire leaves this fight in a coma.
Nice Prediction!!:rofl
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 08:15 PM
Darchinyan doesn't need technical skills to beat Donaire. Donaire can jab and have his technical side tip top and it still won't make a difference. Vic will just stalk Donaire with his right and then land massive lefts. Vic could beat him with one hand.
Nice analysis.:rofl
PacDbest
09-12-2007, 08:17 PM
He is just very unorthadox technically, which people mistake for being very raw. He had a good amatuer career, and is no Mayorga by any means. He times his punches very well, and throws from some unusual angles at times. He is best when he puts combinations together. I actually think that Vic will have trouble against someone who gets right in on him, as the few times I have seen people do this to him he has looked uncomfortable. Either that or a good mover. Anyone who tries to stand there ground at boxing range will be beaten. He reminds me of a lot of European fighters in this way.
You seem high on Vic here.:yep
KO Boxing
09-12-2007, 10:34 PM
The only reason why you picked this upset, mate, is because he comes from the same country as yourself...
Big deal. People pick upsets all the time.
KO Boxing
09-12-2007, 10:57 PM
Are you stupid?
:lol:
I love it.
KO Boxing
09-12-2007, 11:10 PM
You love being stupid? :huh
No, I love being called stupid by someone as stupid as yourself. It's irony at it's most funny, for me.
KO Boxing
09-12-2007, 11:18 PM
What is ironic is your name KO Boxing while you continue hating on KO artists like Pacquiao.
And hug the nuts of runners like Mayweather.
Remember... I'm on a strict anti-Pac thread policy at the moment, so I don't wanna have to leave here if this turns into another one, as is the trend whenever your reply (considering this is the only place I get to converse with [laugh at] you, these days).
kg0208
09-12-2007, 11:19 PM
What is ironic is your name KO Boxing while you continue hating on KO artists like Pacquiao.
And hug the nuts of runners like Mayweather.
He has argued for and against both. As have many posters here. Myself included.
KO Boxing
09-12-2007, 11:24 PM
He has argued for and against both. As have many posters here. Myself included.
:good
As I've said before, your a good man, KG.
kg0208
09-12-2007, 11:34 PM
What is laughable is how you defend Floyd when everyone in the world see through his shit.
We PacFans will always have an easy time against you Haters because Pacquiao actually walks the walk. Everytime.
You FloydFans on the other hand are gonna die each time you defend him because it's almost impossible to defend a guy who has let the world down, time and again. :hi:
This is again a false statement in many ways. If everyone else in the world saw throught PBF, he wouldn't be ranked #1 p4p by the magazine so many of the Pacman fans use for their arguments. A vast majority simply view PBF as a superb fighter.
And two, Pacman walks the walk most of the time. But he isn't right now....not compared to PBF who is taking on a lineal unbeaten champion.
So lets keep perspective here.
Pacman is great, PBF is great....you cannot deny that about either. Their levels of respective greatness is another subject for another time and place.
kg0208
09-12-2007, 11:35 PM
Oh that's just fucking gay. :asskiss
As opposed to this?
PacDBest, you are the best! :good
Neither is gay. Props are props....you do it all the time with your Pacfan buddies.
kg0208
09-12-2007, 11:42 PM
I dare you to go through all the boxing sites in the net... most have Pacquiao number one.
Until Floyd actually fights Hatton, he hasnt fought anyone the likes that Pac has in recent years.
And greatness is always about the RESUME. :hi:
DLH is every bit as great if not greater than Morales. Especially that version of Morales.
I am not going to go through all the boxing sites on the net. You haven't either. All the major well known sites have PBF #1.
You seem high on Vic here.:yep
He is still a good fighter, just got over confident with his own power. Fought a bad fight. I never said he was the greatest. And I had never seen Donaire fight so I couldn't provide an proper analysis
kg0208 > Sweet Pea BTW where the hell is Sweet Pea??
Don't know. Haven't seen him for a while on the boards.
I dare you to go through all the boxing sites in the net... most have Pacquiao number one.
Until Floyd actually fights Hatton, he hasnt fought anyone the likes that Pac has in recent years.
And greatness is always about the RESUME. :hi:
In recent times Pac drew with JMM, lost to Morales, and then beat a past prime Morales coming off an embarrassing loss, twice. How does that get him the number 1 spot. His performance against Larios wasn't flash by any extent, and Floyd has performed better against good opponents for a longer period of time. This arguement in itself is quite ridiculous.
kg0208
09-12-2007, 11:51 PM
Yeah sure, a DLH who has lost to journeymen like Felix Sturm.
Morales just beat a champ in a higher weight category... this after getting KOd twice his last two fights.
Boxing sites do have Pac number one. :deal
It was obviously just a play at words ... unlike yours which were sincere and filled with forbidden manlove for each other.
Excuse as per usual.
Now lets examine what you just said.
Morales just beat a champ in a higher weight category... this after getting KOd twice his last two fights.
He lost. Fact.
]Yeah sure, a DLH who has lost to journeymen like Felix Sturm.
You just tried to push Morales for "Beating" a champion at a higher weight class. Well DLH got the decision here ( I had him losing) and Sturm...a journeyman? He is the former WBO and WBA (2 sererate reigns) Middleweight champion. Not a journeyman. How many championships does that guy who just beat Morales have? BTW...Morales also lost to Raheem.
Boxing sites do have Pac number one
Show me all of them, and well will see who is rated higher on more sites. This is your statement yes?
most have Pacquiao number one.
When you have something more and really want to discuss it, we can. But that wasn't really a good attempt.
Pac was cheated in the final scores for the JMM fight. Then JMM avoided the rematch like Pac was SRR version 2.0
The first fight was a close one, and if you consider the fact that Pac hit 10x harder than Erik, Pac shouldve gotten the nod in that one as well.
Watch the Larios fight. Pac was playing in there. Yet he gave Larios three knockdowns. Did Floyd ever come close to hurting Baldomir or DLH?
LMAO. This is one of the worst posts I have read in a while. Nuthugging at its finest.
kg0208
09-13-2007, 12:14 AM
Yet you couldn't contradict any of them. :hi:
You can't contradict any of mine. Not without adding in your opinion and sticking to the facts.
Where's that list BTW?
kg0208
09-13-2007, 12:17 AM
I'm not gonna cuz I can't
Cool.
Pac was cheated in the final scores for the JMM fight. Then JMM avoided the rematch like Pac was SRR version 2.0
The first fight was a close one, and if you consider the fact that Pac hit 10x harder than Erik, Pac shouldve gotten the nod in that one as well.
Watch the Larios fight. Pac was playing in there. Yet he gave Larios three knockdowns. Did Floyd ever come close to hurting Baldomir or DLH?
I shouldn't have to. This post is trash. But just to prove a point here I go. Erik won the first fight clearly. Pac does NOT hit 10x harder then Erik. Erik outboxed him clearly. Pac didn't fight well against Larios, who had to put on a heap of weight and bounce back from a 3rd round stoppage against Vas in his fight before. Floyd was fighting against BIGGER fighters in Baldomir and Oscar, where as Pac was fighting a guy moving up as well. Oscar is also much better then larios. ANything else?
How did Erik win the fight clearly? The punch output were almost the same. And you will concede that Pac hits a lot harder than Morales. Morales was never the same again after that fight.
Pac didnt fight well against Larios and Floyd was fighting Baldo and DLH well? What the fuck are you smoking?
The Larios who fought Pac was also a lot better than the DLH who fought Floyd.
And in case you just watched boxing only now, Pac has been fighting much bigger p4p fighters and has DOMINATED them with ease. Example MAB.
Stupid dolt. :hi:
Okay. For the last time. Morales won the first on all 3 judges scorecards. It was NOT contraversial. Secondly, Larios is no where near the fighter Oscar is, even at 154. its not even debatable. Thirdly, I never said floyd fought well vs Baldomir and Oscar, i said he fought naturally bigger fighters, WHICH HE DID. And last of all, MAB is the only real fighter in boxings elite that he had beaten before Morales. FACT. And MAB was a naturally small figher anyway who had come up in weight. Floyd had wins over Castillo, Corrales, Judah, Hernandez, Chavez and now Oscar. Its not even comparable at this point. I will not answer any more of yous posts because you are a delusional nuthugger.
theunderdog
09-13-2007, 03:04 AM
leave them be MSTR. you can reason out with these people
kg0208
09-13-2007, 04:07 AM
This has to be the most ignorant post I've seen in my stay here.
Since when did we take judges scorecards seriously?
Second, there is a huge difference between the Oscar that KTFOd Gatti and the Oscar that chased Floyd around the ring.
Third, Manny Pacquiao has fought a lot of bigger fighters than him.
Fourth, a Castillo (who actually won the fight), unfocused Coralles, Judah, Hernandez, Chavez, and a shot DLH are nowhere as good as MAB, Morales (three fucking times), JMM, Ledwaba (p4p 12), Larios and Sasakul (the man at his weight according to Ring). Get that into your fucking stupid head bitch. :deal
Really? Do you read your own posts? :lol::lol::lol:
kg0208
09-13-2007, 04:15 AM
You should read my posts. And commit them to heart, for they are the truth. :deal
Truth = Lie
Tell me again how Morales won his last fight and DLH lost to the journeyman who happens to be the WBA Middleweight champion right now?
mad_takamura
09-13-2007, 06:05 AM
Truth = Lie
Tell me again how Morales won his last fight and DLH lost to the journeyman who happens to be the WBA Middleweight champion right now?
first of all morales was clearly cheated considering the fact that it happened on diaz's turf, chi-town a hometown decision.
after the first round dd was winning it till he got dropped and when he was up em followed that with a 1-2 in the closing sec.
rnd 2 dd was still aggressive in 1.46 sec.of the fight he slipped a good right uppercut and unleashed a right left right comb. all blocked by em's right glove!
1.33 sec. em unleashed 5 hit combo all hitting dd clean!
now when you see throughout the remainder of the fight, dd was only hitting em in the arms, in the elbows and in the air! but mostly elbows as em was protecting his body. that's 1 of em's weakness.
em finally knew how to deal with diaz on the remainder of the fight not just by blocking with hands ,elbows, by pulling away, jabbing, but most especially by giving combinations when dd tried to slug it out and even by clinching!( though it was not relative with em's machismo nature)
you see at the coming rnds when dd was getting frustrated coz he can't get a clean shot to em he fights dirty by hitting em while em's clinching and the ref. doing nothing by not seperating them. that's why em said dd fights dirty at the post fight. it's not em losing his gentleman poise (except the mab fight coz we know they really despise each other) as some would claim coz at that time em was right!
in fairness em got hit a couple of times but not all the time! see the fight with your eyes and you will see dd was not hitting em quite accurately! most was being blocked or hitting the air! it was em hitting dd with clean combinations though not really hurting dd yet it's all clean.
though dd clearly won the last rnd but when you put it like this for dd: aggressiveness: yes! accuracy: no! being outboxed: yes! winning a sure decision: no!
that's why many see the fight won by em. look at their faces after the fight! you see dd having a mini baloon on his lower eye! that's the product of em's accuracy althroughout! only to prove he outboxed dd!
mad_takamura
09-13-2007, 06:26 AM
im waiting for answers.... kg don't be like jmm..boxing don't need those kind! i wouldnt be here to defend myself as i got to go later.. sheesh!:patsch :patsch :patsch
mad_takamura
09-13-2007, 06:32 AM
kg are you in divac's chiken farm? come out coz i ain't got time! you remind me of my favorite food: adobo. not the pork kind but your kind for health reasons of course...
mad_takamura
09-13-2007, 06:42 AM
sheesh. no kg.:patsch i know a jmm fan when isee them! waited long but i got to go...:tired
BITCH ASS
09-13-2007, 01:09 PM
Good Fuckin Call!!!!
kg0208
09-13-2007, 01:17 PM
sheesh. no kg.:patsch i know a jmm fan when isee them! waited long but i got to go...:tired
It's called sleeping....
I read your post. What's there to argue. You like many saw the fight differently than many others. It's been debated here a dozen times. The FACT is he lost. Opinions won't change that. It wasn't about anyone's opinion on the fight, but about a factual statement. BTW, your account of the fight is accurate enough, though others claiming Diaz won are just as accurate. It was a close fight and Morales wasn't cheated. Close fights are just that...close. No one was robbed or cheated and my guess is you only feel this way cuz it would prop up Pacmans win if Morales somehow regained form. But this simply proved he hadn't as this Diaz is the weakest of the 3 and a prime Morales beats him easy, as does Pacman NOW.
JMM fan? Who cares about JMM....not even discussing him.
Perhaps I will clue you in since you seem so eager. Dominga is saying that Morales, who has lost 5 out of his last 6, is better all time and in that current version than DLH. His claim is based on what he says is Morales winning his last fight (he didn't) and DLH losing to the journeyman Sturm (he won). Now I happen to think Sturm deserved a decision there, but he didn't get it. So he lost.
Now, seeing as how in the record books Morales lost and DLH won, his comparison is moot to begin with. But on top of this, he calls Diaz a champion and Sturm a journeyman. But Sturm is a 2 time champion and current WBA MW champion. He has accomplished more than Diaz.
Now are you going to dispute this or are you just gonna be a nuthugger and take your boy's side when every fact is against him? JMM fan...JMM is nobody to me.
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