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Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:02 AM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
See Me Flow
12-09-2007, 02:05 AM
Where is that bitch ass, shit talking Muttley?! Bow down and pay your respect to PBF you sorry sack of shit.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
lozkin
12-09-2007, 02:05 AM
the fact you are posting in such high bold shows your insecurity...look man, your boy boxed our boys ear of....PFB, trust me, has become a hero in the UK...there is no shame in beging beaten bu the the PFP ~1
Pimp, whats the deal? Why are you upset?
Floyd won, it was a masterful fight and a classic KO, you should be happy.
sues2nd
12-09-2007, 02:07 AM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
Stop yelling.
:lol:
Boom_Boom
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Thats right Brits...BORN IN THE USA!!!!!!
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Symphenyceo
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Hatton should be proud, he got the biggest payday in his career.
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Fedor Em
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
Christ I thought Floyd was gonna win, and I can't stand when the Brits get on about their "pussy American" bullshit, but show some more class than this.
See Me Flow
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
And another thing, you Brits were disrespectful during our national anthem. Take your ass back to England!
Fab2333
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Go head Pimp, people dont get it. That s**t they pulled with our anthem got me tight. I wanted Ricky hatton 2 get his ass wooped even worse. And I didnt even have a problem with him either is whats so funny. But after that I wanted Floyd 2 take vengence into his own hands. And he sure enough did.
Theres only oooonnnneee MAYWEATHER
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Hatton should be proud, he got the biggest payday in his career.
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Lacyace
12-09-2007, 02:08 AM
Yeah, I really couldn't see how someone would take a one-dimensional swarmer over a defensive wizard. Hatton doesn't feint, jab, or nothing. Just overhead hooks and that's all.
But the hate for PBF really IS that strong.
Larson
12-09-2007, 02:09 AM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
Typing from the grave?
brooklyn1550
12-09-2007, 02:09 AM
Calm down:lol:
I think people who picked with their HEAD were with you that Mayweather would beat Hatton - I was one of them. I think the people than picked Hatton picked with their HEART and their emotions.
pipe wrenched
12-09-2007, 02:11 AM
Hey my man Pimp C, my only fault was picking the wrong round. I had a PBF TKO 7 laid down when 3 rounds stopped me from being a fuckin prophet.
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:17 AM
I knew PBF would outclass Hatton. Ricky did come to fight I'll give him that but he really didn't stand a chacne. BTW Leaderman's card was a disgrace I gave Hatton 2 rounds in the fight.
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:18 AM
Hey my man Pimp C, my only fault was picking the wrong round. I had a PBF TKO 7 laid down when 3 rounds stopped me from being a fuckin prophet.
It was still a good pick.:good
Decebal
12-09-2007, 02:19 AM
Tone is down with the "fucks" talk, buddy! You weren't the only one here to see the truth!;)
Larson
12-09-2007, 02:19 AM
It was still a good pick.:good
How's the cemetary these days?
Sheehan
12-09-2007, 02:20 AM
Pimp, whats the deal? Why are you upset?
Floyd won, it was a masterful fight and a classic KO, you should be happy.
yea :lol:
jlrivera81
12-09-2007, 02:20 AM
Congrats to floyd
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:21 AM
There's only one Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:22 AM
Tone is down with the "fucks" talk, buddy! You weren't the only one here to see the truth!;)
I can't help myself I'm drunk as a skunk.
jecxbox
12-09-2007, 02:22 AM
Floyd showed a little of the Floyd at 140lbs version. And I knew if that Floyd showed up and he unleashed his hands and some combinations that he would KO Hatton. The only chance I thought hatton would have would be to have Floyd turtle up and run so much that he lost rounds just by the running itself.
This fight reminded me soooo much of Trinidad vs Hopkins.
Decebal
12-09-2007, 02:22 AM
I can't help myself I'm drunk as a skunk.
:lol::good
pipe wrenched
12-09-2007, 02:23 AM
There's only one Mayweather!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It's a beautiful night, we're walkin tonight,
Chillin in Mayweather wonderland.........:happy
C Money
12-09-2007, 02:23 AM
Ok BRO! I'm gonna give the devil his due tonigt. PBF did adjust, box masterfully in the last 2 or 3 rounds and delivering the CLEAR OUTCOME. I must also give Floyd credit for AFTER the fight. You could see the coaching but again Floyd pulled it OFF:good
But I still say Floyd has to fight Cotto/Williams. It aint about my opinion as much as it is that the real ATG Champions have done what Floyds done and more, THATS FACTS. See I respect FACTS and when Floyd does it? I'll respect it:yep I AM TONIGHT. He wasnt 40 Champ officialy but we know he would have been.
What I ask YOU, and I think you have a higher than average awareness for a Floyd fan, is can you deny that Cotto is a MUST? I believe Williams is as well if he wins in Feb. I mean if Floyd IS THE GREATEST? WHY BE DENIED THAT RESPECT? No ones saying he has to fight 3 or 4 years more:nono Two fights should take maybe two years at most and allow Floyd to call the shots, make money, EARN RESPCT:happy If you are the man DO IT!!
Fucking Michael Jordan DID IT!! "Insert great athlete" DID IT!! You do it to be the best, prove you are the best and if Floyd can and manage to mature in the process? He could really turn it out and be a life long cog as promoter and player in Boxing. Do it Mario Lemeiux style, BUY THE FRANCHISE!!! Aint that Money May? Wanna really be admired Floyd, ENDEARED? Keep making the excitement, leave you're STAMP, and perhaps help the sport and more fighters get ahead as you did. BE REAL and the respect will be as well.
Floyd has set himself UP to a stretch run that can put him there 4 REAL and he walks away?:-( :-( :-( :-( Thats been the problem the WHOLE WAY. Although for all you're criticism Hatton was live and was effective in the first six rounds or so.
Floyd needs to change his image and work on laying off the gangsta thug image. There's greatness that can come from adversity, but there's 8 trillion stories about wasted talent cut short by STREET LIFE.
Hey, Floyd its OK to acknowledge but take action to UPLIFT. Give back with TIME AND MONEY for positive.
He MIGHT BE, BUT WE NEED 2 C Money May:good
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:26 AM
Ok BRO! I'm gonna give the devil his due tonigt. PBF did adjust, box masterfully in the last 2 or 3 rounds and delivering the CLEAR OUTCOME. I must also give Floyd credit for AFTER the fight. You could see the coaching but again Floyd pulled it OFF:good
But I still say Floyd has to fight Cotto/Williams. It aint about my opinion as much as it is that the real ATG Champions have done what Floyds done and more, THATS FACTS. See I respect FACTS and when Floyd does it? I'll respect it:yep I AM TONIGHT. He wasnt 40 Champ officialy but we know he would have been.
What I ask YOU, and I think you have a higher than average awareness for a Floyd fan, is can you deny that Cotto is a MUST? I believe Williams is as well if he wins in Feb. I mean if Floyd IS THE GREATEST? WHY BE DENIED THAT RESPECT? No ones saying he has to fight 3 or 4 years more:nono Two fights should take maybe two years at most and allow Floyd to call the shots, make money, EARN RESPCT:happy If you are the man DO IT!!
Fucking Michael Jordan DID IT!! "Insert great athlete" DID IT!! You do it to be the best, prove you are the best and if Floyd can and manage to mature in the process? He could really turn it out and be a life long cog as promoter and player in Boxing. Do it Mario Lemeiux style, BUY THE FRANCHISE!!! Aint that Money May? Wanna really be admired Floyd, ENDEARED? Keep making the excitement, leave you're STAMP, and perhaps help the sport and more fighters get ahead as you did. BE REAL and the respect will be as well.
Floyd has set himself UP to a stretch run that can put him there 4 REAL and he walks away?:-( :-( :-( :-( Thats been the problem the WHOLE WAY. Although for all you're criticism Hatton was live and was effective in the first six rounds or so.
Floyd needs to change his image and work on laying off the gangsta thug image. There's greatness that can come from adversity, but there's 8 trillion stories about wasted talent cut short by STREET LIFE.
Hey, Floyd its OK to acknowledge but take action to UPLIFT. Give back with TIME AND MONEY for positive.
He MIGHT BE, BUT WE NEED 2 C Money May:good
Good for you to give PBF his props.:good I really think PBF is done. It's a shame because I really want to see him face Cotto.
Good for you to give PBF his props.:good I really think PBF is done. It's a shame because I really want to see him face Cotto.
Me and you both.
And props for wanting him to fight the best.
brooklyn1550
12-09-2007, 02:28 AM
Good for you to give PBF his props.:good I really think PBF is done. It's a shame because I really want to see him face Cotto.
Floyd is fucking SMART! He may leave now with tons of money, his health, and the legacy of an ATG. But Cotto-Mayweather is the fight to be made in all of boxing. It's on top of my wish list too.
Symphenyceo
12-09-2007, 02:29 AM
I knew PBF would outclass Hatton. Ricky did come to fight I'll give him that but he really didn't stand a chacne. BTW Leaderman's card was a disgrace I gave Hatton 2 rounds in the fight.
Yea thats not the 1st time He was completly wrong on his card..for a guy thats been aaround boxing so long he should know how to score a fight
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:31 AM
Me and you both.
And props for wanting him to fight the best.
:good
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 02:32 AM
Floyd is fucking SMART! He may leave now with tons of money, his health, and the legacy of an ATG. But Cotto-Mayweather is the fight to be made in all of boxing. It's on top of my wish list too.
Yeah Cotto-PBF would be huge maybe PBF would come back for one last big payday.
LeadLeftHook
12-09-2007, 02:33 AM
Floyd caught Hatton all night as Hatton came in squarely with those wide punches.
Fact is Hatton is not anywhere near Floyd's skill level. Hes not even a brawler, his pressure fighting is more like pushing and holding. Hes more of a hugger more than a brawler.
Anyways, credit to Ricky for coming to USA and fighting the best. He did his best and give it his all and I respect that.
As a side note, there was booing by the Brits during the US national anthem, that was pretty disrespectful.
C Money
12-09-2007, 02:33 AM
Good for you to give PBF his props.:good I really think PBF is done. It's a shame because I really want to see him face Cotto.
Sad to say, BUT I'm not suprised:-( :-( :-(
As I say, "HISTORY OF CHAMPIONS" You cant talk away FACTS. That's how YOU WIN FLOYD!!!
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 03:24 AM
Bump
MacManJr.
12-09-2007, 03:40 AM
I feel so good!
Money May All Day! BITCHES!
divac
12-09-2007, 03:52 AM
Pimp, whats the deal? Why are you upset?
Floyd won, it was a masterful fight and a classic KO, you should be happy.
Thats just Pimp, he takes to the attitude that Mayweather exhibits.....
.....its just outright classless the behaviour thats exhibited by alot of these Mayweather fans.
Most of those that picked Hatton are giving Mayweather his proper credit.......but when you're a scum, you're always a scum.......Pimp still feels the need to degrade anyone and everyone that does'nt think like he does.
I feel bad for Pimp, I really do, he's the type of person that cant find any happiness no matter what......if Mayweather would have lost, he's have been somber, but miserable, he wins, and he still miserable but wants others to be in that state with him!:-(
A person that does nothing but demean others is an unhappy individual!
Pimp C
12-09-2007, 03:57 AM
Thats just Pimp, he takes to the attitude that Mayweather exhibits.....
.....its just outright classless the behaviour thats exhibited by alot of these Mayweather fans.
Most of those that picked Hatton are giving Mayweather his proper credit.......but when you're a scum, you're always a scum.......Pimp still feels the need to degrade anyone and everyone that does'nt think like he does.
I feel bad for Pimp, I really do, he's the type of person that cant find any happiness no matter what......if Mayweather would have lost, he's have been somber, but miserable, he wins, and he still miserable but wants others to be in that state with him!:-(
A person that does nothing but demean others is an unhappy individual!
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Let me have my moment please. Mr. Chavez beat Sweet Pea.:good
divac
12-09-2007, 04:04 AM
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Let me have my moment please. Mr. Chavez beat Sweet Pea.:good
The moment is yours Pimp C.
I said it before and I'll say it now with even more convicition......Mayweather is great, and he would have been a hard beat for any great in the history of the sport.
Everybody deals with the moment differently, but I'd just like to see Mayweather fans do it with a lttle more class!
Congrats to Floyd Mayweather, no doubt he was the better fighter!
Ion85
12-09-2007, 04:15 AM
You're right about half of ESB knowing jack shit about boxing, actually its more than half. Anybody with any brains could see that Mayweather would beat Hatton, its a styilistic nightmare for ricky. People that deny Floyd's greatness and talent should truly pick another sport to watch because clearly they don't know what they're watching. They have never boxed nor known what its like to put on a pair of gloves.
Most people that hate Floyd hate him because he is a a rich, outspoken, physically gifted, black man. Most of the people on this forum are FAT, UNATHELETIC, WHITE pieces of shit who have never done anything remotely atheletic or physical as boxing in their useless lives. They feel threatened by a miniority displaying self confidence, so they ridicule and deride him.
Well tonight, Floyd proved how wrong and stupid those losers are.
Most people that hate Floyd hate him because he is a a rich, outspoken, physically gifted, black man. Most of the people on this forum are FAT, UNATHELETIC, WHITE pieces of shit who have never done anything remotely atheletic or physical as boxing in their useless lives. They feel threatened by a miniority displaying self confidence, so they ridicule and deride him.
Wow your sounding like a real asshole. :yep
Ion85
12-09-2007, 04:18 AM
Wow your sounding like a real asshole. :yep
Oh you must be one of those people that I mentioned.
The truth stings doesn't it?
Oh you must be one of those people that I mentioned.
The truth stings doesn't it?
You dont know me.
I dont condone racism of any kind, and its obvious your a racist POS.
KO Boxing
12-09-2007, 04:22 AM
Floyd is fucking SMART! He may leave now with tons of money, his health, and the legacy of an ATG. But Cotto-Mayweather is the fight to be made in all of boxing. It's on top of my wish list too.
100% agreed, on all points. I personally don't mind if it doesn't happen for a year though. Give Cotto Margarito and Williams/Cintron (and all the belts), and have it for the undisputed welterweight title.
If he (Floyd) wins that, and in an impressive fashion, and leaves (to not come back); you couldn't really ask for a better way to leave the sport.
Not to go over the top or nothing, but it's kind of the CAREER I'm sure most boxers dream of having at the beginning of their careers.
Ion85
12-09-2007, 04:25 AM
You dont know me.
I dont condone racism of any kind, and its obvious your a racist POS.
Since when is speaking the truth about a situation deemed racism?
I would venture to say that most people on this board are white males who feel threatened by a black man with money.
Floyd has the self confidence to speak his mind, and the talent to back it up.
gruuby
12-09-2007, 04:28 AM
W/e Floyd is a great boxer. That doesn't mean he isn't a dick.
Since when is speaking the truth about a situation deemed racism?
I would venture to say that most people on this board are white males who feel threatened by a black man with money.
Floyd has the self confidence to speak his mind, and the talent to back it up.
You know fuck all about who posts here. You obviously have an agenda.
Since you seem to feel you have the market cornered on "the truth", I will let just let you be, because people like you cant be reasoned with. For example, you said that Im one of those people who cant give him credit, blah, blah, blah.. well here you go... next time you accuse someone of something, maybe you should check your facts.
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Ion85
12-09-2007, 04:49 AM
You know fuck all about who posts here. You obviously have an agenda.
Since you seem to feel you have the market cornered on "the truth", I will let just let you be, because people like you cant be reasoned with. For example, you said that Im one of those people who cant give him credit, blah, blah, blah.. well here you go... next time you accuse someone of something, maybe you should check your facts.
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The only agenda I have is speaking the truth.
Answer this for me. This is a boxing forum, so why would people come on here and hate on the best fighter on this planet so badly? Surely not because of his skills in the ring, because clearly he is one of the best ever in that department.
They hate on him because he comes across as arrogant and self centered. That reason alone should bar them from any further discussion about him because that is an outside the ring trait, having nothing to do with his boxing talent. If you ever been in sports you know that the best athletes are indeed somewaht arrogant.
But the venom displayed on this forum toward this great fighter is downright obscene and I would safely say fueled by deep, maybe even subconscious racist thoughts.
You can live in a fairytale world where you think racism doesn't exist anymore and that everybody who looks at everyone else who isn't the same skin tone as them doesn't immediately have a stereotype. Yes you can live in a world with blinders on.
I on the other hand prefer to live in the real world. Racism is still apart of the way we view life. The white male has been on top for so long that any percieved threat to our power is immediately met with hate and deridement.
Floyd is a black man who speaks his mind, and I can guarantee that this is threatenting for some of the white males on this forum.
The only agenda I have is speaking the truth.
Answer this for me. This is a boxing forum, so why would people come on here and hate on the best fighter on this planet so badly? Surely not because of his skills in the ring, because clearly he is one of the best ever in that department.
They hate on him because he comes across as arrogant and self centered. That reason alone should bar them from any further discussion about him because that is an outside the ring trait, having nothing to do with his boxing talent. If you ever been in sports you know that the best athletes are indeed somewaht arrogant.
But the venom displayed on this forum toward this great fighter is downright obscene and I would safely say fueled by deep, maybe even subconscious racist thoughts.
You can live in a fairytale world where you think racism doesn't exist anymore and that everybody who looks at everyone else who isn't the same skin tone as them doesn't immediately have a stereotype. Yes you can live in a world with blinders on.
I on the other hand prefer to live in the real world. Racism is still apart of the way we view life. The white male has been on top for so long that any percieved threat to our power is immediately met with hate and deridement.
Floyd is a black man who speaks his mind, and I can guarantee that this is threatenting for the white males on this forum.
I like how nowhere in this post do you mention that you were wrong in your accusation of me. Class. :good
I never said that racism doesnt exist, only that I dont condone it, and what you said made you sound like an asshole.
And finaly, sure he has haters. I dont like Floyd outside of the ring, and it doesnt have a damm thing to do with him being black. I just dont like his personality. In your logic, this probably makes me a racist, fat, white piece of shit.
Ion85
12-09-2007, 05:05 AM
I like how nowhere in this post do you mention that you were wrong in your accusation of me. Class. :good
I never said that racism doesnt exist, only that I dont condone it, and what you said made you sound like an asshole.
And finaly, sure he has haters. I dont like Floyd outside of the ring, and it doesnt have a damm thing to do with him being black. I just dont like his personality. In your logic, this probably makes me a racist, fat, white piece of shit.
You may not like his personality for reasons that have nothing to do with racism, thats fine. But again, I would bet dollars to donuts that alot of people hate the fact that he is black and outspoken.
The fact that you take this personally shows that you must be insecure about yourself. You jumped right on here and called me an asshole, people only do that when something strikes a cord with them.
This is a message board on the internet, get a grip, and a life.
By the way I would bet that you are fat, or at least unathleletic. Over 4000 posts since the beginning of this year...alot of free time on your hands huh?
You may not like his personality for reasons that have nothing to do with racism, thats fine. But again, I would bet dollars to donoughts that alot of people hate the fact that he is black and outspoken.
The fact that you take this personally shows that you must be insecure about yourself. You jumped right on here and called me an asshole, people only do that when something strikes a cord with them.
This is a message board on the internet, get a grip, and a life.
By the way I would bet that you are fat, or at least unathleletic. Over 4000 posts since the beginning of this year...alot of free time on your hands huh?
Your post means nothing. Its just a pathetic attempt to redirect your foolishness.
You speak about the people on this forum as if you have some hard evidence, when your really only guessing. Nobody knows the demographics of this board. And you should have learned something about your accusations when you made a fool out of yourself the first time. :good
I also like your theory about post counts and athleticism of lack thereof. Its, like everything with you, just a shot in the dark.
Lets face it, you have no evidence for your arguements. When your claims are called into question, you respond by making more questionable claims. This way, your never forced into taking resposibility for your stupidity.
Oh, and my favorite... your blaming me for having insecurity because I called attention to your b.s. Blame and redirect all day, its just your credibility that your losing. But then again, you didnt have any to begin with, did you?
Ion85
12-09-2007, 05:22 AM
Your post means nothing. Its just a pathetic attempt to redirect your foolishness.
You speak about the people on this forum as if you have some hard evidence, when your really only guessing. Nobody knows the demographics of this board. And you should have learned something about your accusations when you made a fool out of yourself the first time. :good
I also like your theory about post counts and athleticism of lack thereof. Its, like everything with you, just a shot in the dark.
Lets face it, you have no evidence for your arguements. When your claims are called into question, you respond by making more questionable claims. This way, your never forced into taking resposibility for your stupidity.
Oh, and my favorite... your blaming me for having insecurity because I called attention to your b.s. Blame and redirect all day, its just your credibility that your losing. But then again, you didnt have any to begin with, did you?
To be honest I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else think on this forum about me. Only a fat loser like you would care about such worthless bullshit.
I have a real life, unlike you who seem to be consumed with this site. The very fact that you are working so hard to disprove me shows how seriously you take this shit.
I love how don't deny that you aren't fat. Post a pic fatso, lets see if you are a pathetic shut-in whose inhaling dunkin donuts while smashing your bloated fingers on the keyboard to type out a another witty comeback.
Put your money where your fat mouth is, post a pic.
To be honest I don't give a fuck what you or anyone else think on this forum about me. Only a fat loser like you would care about such worthless bullshit.
I have a real life, unlike you who seem to be consumed with this site. The very fact that you are working so hard to disprove me shows how seriously you take this shit.
I love how don't deny that you aren't fat. Post a pic fatso, lets see if you are a pathetic shut-in whose inhaling dunkin donuts while smashing your bloated fingers on the keyboard to type out a another witty comeback.
Put your money where your fat mouth is, post a pic.
Do you know what a fucking loser you sound like? :lol::lol::patsch
You have been so thouroughly handled in this arguement that your resorting to asking another man to post a picture of himself online to see if he is fat. Im embarassed for you at this point.
Fuck man, just throw in the white towel. :lol::lol::lol::lol::nut
Ion85
12-09-2007, 05:33 AM
Do you know what a fucking loser you sound like? :lol::lol::patsch
You have been so thouroughly handled in this arguement that your resorting to asking another man to post a picture of himself online to see if he is fat. Im embarassed for you at this point.
Fuck man, just throw in the white towel. :lol::lol::lol::lol::nut
The only loser here is a fat guy with 5000 posts in less than 12 months. Is your life that boring?
I can only conclude that if you don't post a picture you will have proven my theory correct about fat white guys on this site. You are one of them and you were hurt that I called a spade a spade.
Have a nice night, you should get some sleep, got a big day of posting on this site all day 2morrow. ha...fucking fat loser.
99escobar
12-09-2007, 06:46 AM
I've been a member of this forum for a while but I dont post very often. The hatred and the bias turns me off most of the time. I live in Liverpool, 30 mins drive from where Ricky comes from. I have followed both the careers of Floyd and Ricky pretty much from the beginning. As fighters I love both of them, but I admit I was rooting for Hatton, simply because I have found Floyd's personality to have become less attractive over the past few years.
Last night I thought Ricky could have fought better, although I believed the referee did interfere too much. Despite this I have to take my hat off to Floyd, he beat Ricky fair and square. His ability to fight inside surprised me even. He is truly special. He was also magnanimous and showed great class in victory, an element of his personality he has been hiding of late. Ricky is STILL a great fighter but I would have liked him to have shown more grace and respect for Floyd after the fight. I'm sure he will eventually.
But congratualations to Floyd, he is phenomenal, I have refound my faith in him (as a person) and will now proudly call myself a fan again. Dont hate either fighter, just love. To quote a great American General, George S. Patton:
"It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died (or lost). Rather we should thank God that such men lived (and fought)."
PS I apologise on behalf of Brits for booing the American national anthem, it was misguided and nothing personal (just hyped up drunk people). The vast amount of British people love and respect America and Americans. :thumbsup
Chilli
12-09-2007, 07:05 AM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
You've earned a place on ignore list. Good bye.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 02:46 PM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:deal:hi: :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :rofl :lol: :yep :rofl :lol: :rofl
why were you overhyping an undersize bum who got put on queer street by collazo and WILL get trashed by all of the top WW's FRAUD win over hatton means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 4 his WW resume, he should have had the courage of take on Cotto, Marg, Quintana, MOsley or at least any top 10WW not an overhyped 147 pound bum
Fab2333
05-14-2008, 02:51 PM
wow some1 actually ressurected hthis thread?
WOW
Shaolin Box
05-14-2008, 02:51 PM
wow some1 actually ressurected hthis thread?
WOW
:rofl I was saying the same thing.
.....and with a retarded comment...:patsch
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 03:24 PM
its pretty sad when somebody has to OVERRATE an oponent so their favorite fighter can look good when they beat than guy
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 03:59 PM
still no rsponse from you PIMP C on why are you overhyping hatton
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:08 PM
Thanks for bumping this thread and giving me a good laugh for all the people who said PBF couldn't hurt Hatton and PBF would quit against Hatton.
maciek4
05-14-2008, 04:08 PM
You are bragging about him beating Ricky Hatton?
Cotto beat Mosley and is going to fight Antonio Margarito now.
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 04:09 PM
Do you know what a fucking loser you sound like? :lol::lol::patsch
You have been so thouroughly handled in this arguement that your resorting to asking another man to post a picture of himself online to see if he is fat. Im embarassed for you at this point.
Fuck man, just throw in the white towel. :lol::lol::lol::lol::nut
i'm a big believer in speaking your mind. but only if i'm objective and respectful.
but you don't do it and you can't back up your opinion.
every post i've seen of yours tonight starts off by pulling down your rival but you're never big enough to back it up.
whenever you feel confident enough in what you believe to actually debate it - with anyone - but especially me, you let me know.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:11 PM
Thanks for bumping this thread and giving me a good laugh for all the people who said PBF couldn't hurt Hatton and PBF would quit against Hatton.
answer the question why are you overhyping him??? anybody with knowledge knew he was going to lose
Shaolin Box
05-14-2008, 04:13 PM
You are bragging about him beating Ricky Hatton?
Cotto beat Mosley and is going to fight Antonio Margarito now.
I was on ESB for only a month before the Hatton fight and in that short time I saw ALOT of threads/posts stating how Hatton would expose PBF. PIMP C was calling out those guys by creating this thread. Why is so hard to understand? This has nothing to do with Cotto/Marg or any other fighter at WW.
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:13 PM
why were you overhyping an undersize bum who got put on queer street by collazo and WILL get trashed by all of the top WW's FRAUD win over hatton means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING 4 his WW resume, he should have had the courage of take on Cotto, Marg, Quintana, MOsley or at least any top 10WW not an overhyped 147 pound bum
Why are you on my dick. Still mad about me owing your ass the other day?
I never overhyped Hatton his fans did a great job of doing that. He was a top 10 P4P fighter fact. He won a belt at 147 fact. He was linear at 140 fact. Those are all facts and you can't take that away from him. So don't try and marginalize his win over Hatton just because I knew that PBF would get into Hatton's ass and it suits your agenda. What I realized unlike a lot here is that PBF was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton just like he is for Margo and will beat him quite easily.
bxrfan
05-14-2008, 04:14 PM
its pretty sad when somebody has to OVERRATE an oponent so their favorite fighter can look good when they beat than guy
Why the HELL do you keep bumping threads long since dead, just to hate on PBF. Did he steal your bike as a kid or something?
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:15 PM
You are bragging about him beating Ricky Hatton?
Cotto beat Mosley and is going to fight Antonio Margarito now.
Didn't you pick Ricky and Oscar to both beat PBF? Dumbasses like you never get it do you? BTW this is an old thread created right after the fight to rub it in the faces of people who said PBF wouldn't win.
Shaolin Box
05-14-2008, 04:16 PM
Why the HELL do you keep bumping threads long since dead, just to hate on PBF. Did he steal your bike as a kid or something?
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
wow some1 actually ressurected hthis thread?
WOW
That retard gonzhocho or whatever the fuck his name is did.
Im starting to think its Orishaman under an alias. He's obsessed with Floyd!
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:18 PM
I was only on ESB for only a month before the Hatton fight and in that short time I saw ALOT of threads/posts stating how Hatton would expose PBF. PIMP C was calling out those guys by creating this thread. Why is so hard to understand? This has nothing to do with Cotto/Marg or any other fighter at WW.
Exactly it has nothing to do with Cotto but this troll is to stupid to realize it. It has everything to do with all the people who talked shit fro months before the fight and were quiet as fuck after it when their boy got KTFO.
Exactly it has nothing to do with Cotto but this troll is to stupid to realize it. It has everything to do with all the people who talked shit fro months before the fight and were quiet as fuck after it when their boy got KTFO.
I swear its Orishaman, the horrible grammar and spelling.
From PR, obsessed with Floyd, picks everyone to beat him.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:20 PM
Why are you on my dick. Still mad about me owing your ass the other day?
I never overhyped Hatton his fans did a great job of doing that. He was a top 10 P4P fighter fact. He won a belt at 147 fact. He was linear at 140 fact. Those are all facts and you can't take that away from him. So don't try and marginalize his win over Hatton just because I knew that PBF would get into Hatton's ass and it suits your agenda. What I realized unlike a lot here is that PBF was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton just like he is for Margo and will beat him quite easily.
what top 10 WW he beats, what top 10 ww has fraud beat...
and the fight took place at 147 after collazo embarrased hatton so everybody knew that hatton was NO good at that weight so him being a linear champ at 140 and a p4p fighter based on what he did at 140 is irrelevant b/c the fight took place at 147 MORON
what top 10 ww has fraud beat...
:lol:
You rate Cotto's win over Judah better than Mayweathers win over Hatton yet you have to ask what top 10 WW has Floyd beat? ROFL
bxrfan
05-14-2008, 04:23 PM
:lol:
You rate Cotto's win over Judah better than Mayweathers win over Hatton yet you have to ask what top 10 WW has Floyd beat? ROFL
I think he forgot that Mayweather also beat Judah. . . before Cotto.
I think he forgot that Mayweather also beat Judah. . . before Cotto.
He'll somehow spin it to make Cotto's win better.
Asterion
05-14-2008, 04:24 PM
The truth is that a lot of people were praising and also overrating Hatton before the PBF fight, saying that he would beat PBF, etc.
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:24 PM
hey I called PBF to beat Hatton and Oscar and even bet alot of money on him against Hatton, but i don't think he is the truth, or a top30 atg.
I still can't believe he went split decision against Oscar.
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:25 PM
That retard gonzhocho or whatever the fuck his name is did.
Im starting to think its Orishaman under an alias. He's obsessed with Floyd!
I agree it probably is Oriaha this is the same gut who lied about meeting PBF at dinner a week ago. He's a real piece of work.:lol:
what top 10 WW he beats, what top 10 ww has fraud beat...
and the fight took place at 147 after collazo embarrased hatton so everybody knew that hatton was NO good at that weight so him being a linear champ at 140 and a p4p fighter based on what he did at 140 is irrelevant b/c the fight took place at 147 MORON
he beat both Zab and Bald who were both top at 147 and Oscar who was a top 154 pounder ..
I agree this is the same gut who lied about meeting PBF at dinner a week ago. He's a real piece of work.:lol:
:lol: Yea I saw that, some funny ass shit.
"I had dinner with Floyd, yet I have nothing to prove for it except my horrible grammar and improper spelling of my bullshit."
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:26 PM
:lol:
You rate Cotto's win over Judah better than Mayweathers win over Hatton yet you have to ask what top 10 WW has Floyd beat? ROFL
cottos wins over top 10 ww comp
juadh 7 or 8
quintana #4
Mosley #3
Frauds win over top 10 ww
judah and ????????
hatton unranked WW???
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:28 PM
what top 10 WW he beats, what top 10 ww has fraud beat...
and the fight took place at 147 after collazo embarrased hatton so everybody knew that hatton was NO good at that weight so him being a linear champ at 140 and a p4p fighter based on what he did at 140 is irrelevant b/c the fight took place at 147 MORON
Everyone knew he was no good at that weight?:patsch Then why did almost half of ESB pick Hatton to win the fight?:deal
cottos wins over top 10 ww comp
juadh 7 or 8
quintana #4
Mosley #3
Frauds win over top 10 ww
judah and ????????
hatton unranked WW???
Floyds win
Baldomir #1 in Division
Judah #3
Mitchell #Top15
Hatton #Top5
Quitana 4? When Cotto beat him he wasn't even in the top 10 :patsch
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:28 PM
He'll somehow spin it to make Cotto's win better.
Of course he will.
Oh yea Orishman, try to spin it that Baldomir was nothing, his win over Judah is 10x better than Cotto's win over Judah.
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 04:32 PM
cottos wins over top 10 ww comp
juadh 7 or 8
quintana #4
Mosley #3
Frauds win over top 10 ww
judah and ????????
hatton unranked WW???
it's also amazing how many people don't mention floyd's achievements at lower weights simply because people tend to only rate PPV.
cotto's made up some serious ground in recent years but his resume was nothing special for a long time.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:33 PM
Floyds win
Baldomir #1 in Division
Judah #3
Mitchell #Top15
Hatton #Top5
Quitana 4? When Cotto beat him he wasn't even in the top 10 :patsch
hatton is not top 5 MORON what top 10 WW he beats today??? nobody
were is baldomir right now when the division is strong??? nowere to ber seen im surprise how praise a guy with 9 losses againts some scrubs in argentina get from the FRAUD nut :tong :tong :tong like u
Judah got embarrased by got and is not even top 5 in the division right now so it is clear that Fraud has only beaten 1 top 10 WW in judah,, when the division began to stach itself up FRAUD stop fighting real fights why you think he hasnt fought a real WW contender in over 2 yrs???
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Oh yea Orishman, try to spin it that Baldomir was nothing, his win over Judah is 10x better than Cotto's win over Judah.
are you kidding? Judah looked like pure shit against Baldomir, while he looked sharp as hell against Cotto. And Cotto's win was more convincing
hatton is not top 5 MORON what top 10 WW he beats today??? nobody
were is baldomir right now when the division is strong??? nowere to ber seen im surprise how praise a guy with 9 losses againts some scrubs in argentina get from the FRAUD nut :tong :tong :tong like u
Judah got embarrased by got and is not even top 5 in the division right now so it is clear that Fraud has only beaten 1 top 10 WW in judah,, when the division began to stach itself up FRAUD stop fighting real fights why you think he hasnt fought a real WW contender in over 2 yrs???
Hatton wasn't Top 5? Yet he vacated the title your boy Cotto is holding :lol:
Baldomir had to move up, he couldn't make 147 anymore.
9 Losses? So what, Baldomir was fighting early in his career for money for his family, he didnt have time to properly train for every fight. Every fight to him was money for his family to live and eat.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:35 PM
Oh yea Orishman, try to spin it that Baldomir was nothing, his win over Judah is 10x better than Cotto's win over Judah.
how is that if i remember correctly FRAUD lost 5 rds against juadah and was KD judah dominated the 1rst half of the fight against cotto he got KTFO something FRAUD couldnt don and only won 2 rds against cotto
are you kidding? Judah looked like pure shit against Baldomir, while he looked sharp as hell against Cotto.
Baldomir beat Judah before Floyd and Cotto.
+ Against Cotto he was coming off a year of inactivity and he had not won in two years.
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:37 PM
how is that if i remember correctly FRAUD lost 5 rds against juadah and was KD judah dominated the 1rst half of the fight against cotto he got KTFO something FRAUD couldnt don and only won 2 rds against cotto
5 rounds??? Learn how to score a fight he won no more than 3 rounds in that fight at best. 2 early rounds and the 12th.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:37 PM
Hatton wasn't Top 5? Yet he vacated the title your boy Cotto is holding :lol:
Baldomir had to move up, he couldn't make 147 anymore.
9 Losses? So what, Baldomir was fighting early in his career for money for his family, he didnt have time to properly train for every fight. Every fight to him was money for his family to live and eat.
he vacated for a reason MORON that was b/c collazo a guy that is not even top 10 WW today embarrased him and put him on queer street and with 30 more seconds will have KTFO of lil ricky hatton
how is that if i remember correctly FRAUD lost 5 rds against juadah and was KD judah dominated the 1rst half of the fight against cotto he got KTFO something FRAUD couldnt don and only won 2 rds against cotto
Floyd lost 5 rounds? Judah dominated the first half? What fucking fight were you watching?
Floyd was on his way to stopping Judah until he cheated to save himself.
Unlike Cotto WHO HAD TO CHEAT to stop Judah. And on top of that from the professional judges stand point. Cotto lost more rounds to Judah in 10 rounds, then Floyd lost to Judah in 12. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:38 PM
Baldomir beat Judah before Floyd and Cotto.
+ Against Cotto he was coming off a year of inactivity and he had not won in two years.
yea but you should watch the actual fights instead of looking at just the stats.
I don't understand how someone who watched these fights can truly believe that Baldomir's win over Judah was "10x better than Cotto's"
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 04:39 PM
Baldomir beat Judah before Floyd and Cotto.
+ Against Cotto he was coming off a year of inactivity and he had not won in two years.
good points but he also didn't have much choice with that year of inactivity. his own fault.
but judah's a flawed genius.
we can sit here and debate why's and how's but my opinion is he lacks maturity and genuine self-confidence.
terrific had-speed and footwork - for the first couple of rounds anyway....
he vacated for a reason MORON that was b/c collazo a guy that is not even top 10 WW today embarrased him and put him on queer street and with 30 more seconds will have KTFO of lil ricky hatton
What does that have to do with anything?
Cotto was put on queer street by EVEN LESSER punchers :lol:
yea but you should watch the actual fights instead of looking at just the stats.
I don't understand how someone who watched these fights can truly believe that Baldomir's win over Judah was "10x better than Cotto's"
10x no, but better yes.
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:41 PM
10x no, but better yes.
10x (which is actually what you said) HELL NO
and 1x, still HELL NO
Cotto's win over Judah was against a better, more focused Judah, and was more convincing.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 04:41 PM
Floyd lost 5 rounds? Judah dominated the first half? What fucking fight were you watching?
Floyd was on his way to stopping Judah until he cheated to save himself.
Unlike Cotto WHO HAD TO CHEAT to stop Judah. And on top of that from the professional judges stand point. Cotto lost more rounds to Judah in 10 rounds, then Floyd lost to Judah in 12. :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
cotto lost 2 rds againsts judah FRAUD lost 5 rds and a KD wasnt counted stop being biased
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:43 PM
there is so much pathetic bias on this site. Baldomir's win over Judah was not even close to being better than Cotto's, and there is no way in hell Judah won 5 rounds against Floyd.
cotto lost 2 rds againsts judah FRAUD lost 5 rds and a KD wasnt counted stop being biased
:lol::lol:
Talk about Bias, look at how you type Floyds name, you dont even type it properly, you type Fraud. What a joke you are.
there is so much pathetic bias on this site. Baldomir's win over Judah was not even close to being better than Cotto's, and there is no way in hell Judah won 5 rounds against Floyd.
Baldomirs win not better?
Baldomir never cheated, and he beat a fresher Judah.
Cotto cheated and faced an inactive and winless in two years Judah.
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:46 PM
Baldomirs win not better?
Baldomir never cheated, and he beat a fresher Judah.
Cotto cheated and faced an inactive and winless in two years Judah.
:lol: yea whatever you are so biased first you say "10x better" then you say "well maybe not 10x but it was still better" make up your mind man you are skidding.
anyone who saw those fights knows that Cotto's win was much better than Baldomir's, so stop being a boxrec junkie and start being a boxing junkie.
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 04:47 PM
Baldomirs win not better?
Baldomir never cheated, and he beat a fresher Judah.
Cotto cheated and faced an inactive and winless in two years Judah.
cotto didn't cheat.
he was smart if he could do it within the rules.
you try fighting for a living and you'll quickly click into what can buy you time under pressure too.
:lol: yea whatever you are so biased first you say "10x better" then you say "well maybe not 10x but it was still better" make up your mind man you are skidding.
anyone who saw those fights knows that Cotto's win was much better than Baldomir's, so stop being a boxrec junkie and start being a boxing junkie.
:lol: The 10x was to piss Mr Gonzochara boy off.
I watched both fights.
I remember one guy cheating and the other guy not cheating.
cotto didn't cheat.
he was smart if he could do it within the rules.
you try fighting for a living and you'll quickly click into what can buy you time under pressure too.
So its not cheating to throw to clean nutshots on your opponent ala Tito - Vargas.
Wow :nut
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 04:51 PM
So its not cheating to throw to clean nutshots on your opponent ala Tito - Vargas.
Wow :nut
if you don't get disqualified, no.
i'm not saying it should be allowed but i'm saying it is.
PH|LLA
05-14-2008, 04:52 PM
:lol: The 10x was to piss Mr Gonzochara boy off.
I watched both fights.
I remember one guy cheating and the other guy not cheating.
cheating? commiting a foul is not cheating.
If a football team has a holding penalty against them, are they cheating? If a basketball player commits a foul to prevent a layup, is he cheating?
Cotto was penalized for his fouling, Judah was given time to recover, the fight goes on. its not cheating.
I'm not gonna argue with you cause you are a clear cut full blown Cotto hater, and haters can't see the truth
TheGreat
05-14-2008, 04:53 PM
Exactly it has nothing to do with Cotto but this troll is to stupid to realize it. It has everything to do with all the people who talked shit fro months before the fight and were quiet as fuck after it when their boy got KTFO.
:good You put those bitches in their place.
cheating? commiting a foul is not cheating.
If a football team has a holding penalty against them, are they cheating? If a basketball player commits a foul to prevent a layup, is he cheating?
Cotto was penalized for his fouling, Judah was given time to recover, the fight goes on. its not cheating.
It's considered cheating if they are holding but it's common to happen unlike in boxing fights where a fighter is hurt and INTENTIONALLY low blows the other fight when hurt.
The first time okay accident but the 2nd time lol...Cheatz
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 04:55 PM
:good You put those bitches in their place.
:lol: :good
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 05:00 PM
It's considered cheating if they are holding but it's common to happen unlike in boxing fights where a fighter is hurt and INTENTIONALLY low blows the other fight when hurt.
The first time okay accident but the 2nd time lol...Cheatz
well you don't always get 2 yellow cards in football for fouling.
bxrfan
05-14-2008, 05:08 PM
he vacated for a reason MORON that was b/c collazo a guy that is not even top 10 WW today embarrased him and put him on queer street and with 30 more seconds will have KTFO of lil ricky hatton
Collazo actually is still a top ten welterweight. . . .
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 05:28 PM
Collazo actually is still a top ten welterweight. . . .
FRAUD
COtto
mosley
marg
quintana
williams
clottey
judah
cintron
berto
i dont see collazo is a top 10 WW
FRAUD
COtto
mosley
marg
quintana
williams
clottey
judah
cintron
berto
i dont see collazo is a top 10 WW
Judah still top 10? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 05:34 PM
Judah still top 10? :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl
yes those are the RING mag rankings the only change i made was putting berto in and Bonsu out
maciek4
05-14-2008, 05:39 PM
Didn't you pick Ricky and Oscar to both beat PBF? Dumbasses like you never get it do you? BTW this is an old thread created right after the fight to rub it in the faces of people who said PBF wouldn't win.
What? I never picked Ricky Hatton nor Oscar DeLa Hoya to beat PBF. I pick MIGUEL COTTO to beat PBF. What part of it your dumbass dont get? KING COTTO do I need to spell it more clearly for you?
Samurai
05-14-2008, 05:40 PM
FRAUD
COtto
mosley
marg
quintana
williams
clottey
judah
cintron
berto
i dont see collazo is a top 10 WW
yes those are the RING mag rankings the only change i made was putting berto in and Bonsu out
Oh really? Ring Mag rankings huh?
Champ : Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1. Miguel Angel Cotto
2. Shane Mosley
3. Carlos Quintana
4. Paul Williams
5. Antonio Margarito
6. Zab Judah
7. Joshua Clottey
8. Luis Collazo
9. Jackson Bonsu
10. Kermit Cintron
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
Oh really? Ring Mag rankings huh?
Champ : Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1. Miguel Angel Cotto
2. Shane Mosley
3. Carlos Quintana
4. Paul Williams
5. Antonio Margarito
6. Zab Judah
7. Joshua Clottey
8. Luis Collazo
9. Jackson Bonsu
10. Kermit Cintron
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
:lol::lol::lol:
I wonder how Collazo completely got knocked out.
Did half the ppl here really pick Hatton???
Yes.
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 05:46 PM
Did half the ppl here really pick Hatton???
on my past predominently britsh board it was a lot more than half.
good board though. more than a few could question their allegiances afterwards as a way of being bias.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 05:48 PM
:lol::lol::lol:
I wonder how Collazo completely got knocked out.
tell me how many people on that list has fraud beat just number six
cotto beat no 2,3,about to beat #5 and 6 he is obviously the man in the division but b/c ring is owned by odlh h is still no1 so a 2nd stinkfest between him and oscar is more credible
tell me how many people on that list has fraud beat just number six
cotto beat no 2,3,about to beat #5 and 6 he is obviously the man in the division but b/c ring is owned by odlh h is still no1 so a 2nd stinkfest between him and oscar is more credible
That's unfair to say, the past #1 guy is out of the division, a top 5 guy is also out of the division as well.
But seriously why did you try to hide Collazo out of the list? :rofl
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 05:54 PM
Oh really? Ring Mag rankings huh?
Champ : Floyd Mayweather Jr.
1. Miguel Angel Cotto
2. Shane Mosley
3. Carlos Quintana
4. Paul Williams
5. Antonio Margarito
6. Zab Judah
7. Joshua Clottey
8. Luis Collazo
9. Jackson Bonsu
10. Kermit Cintron
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Classic ownage!:lol: :good
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 05:55 PM
Classic ownage!:lol: :good
like the one i ve been putting on you the last couple of days
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 05:56 PM
That's unfair to say, the past #1 guy is out of the division, a top 5 guy is also out of the division as well.
But seriously why did you try to hide Collazo out of the list? :rofl
Because he makes up shit to suit his agenda and that's why he has no credibility and the lie he told about meeting PBF at dinner is another example of that.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 05:57 PM
That's unfair to say, the past #1 guy is out of the division, a top 5 guy is also out of the division as well.
But seriously why did you try to hide Collazo out of the list? :rofl
how was hatton a top 5 ww after he fled back down to 140 after collazo had him on queer street Explain ???
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 05:58 PM
What? I never picked Ricky Hatton nor Oscar DeLa Hoya to beat PBF. I pick MIGUEL COTTO to beat PBF. What part of it your dumbass dont get? KING COTTO do I need to spell it more clearly for you?
Well if you did good for you I'll have to take your word for it. You see I'm fair unlike some of these posters here.:good
how was hatton a top 5 ww after he fled back down to 140 after collazo had him on queer street Explain ???
How is Cotto's WBA belt even considered legit when Hatton vacated the same belt?
How was Hatton top 5? Easy, he beat Collazo and was also the Lineal 140.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 06:06 PM
bc he is lineal at 140 doesnt make him top 5 ww and he survived collazo ho had him out of his feet,,,cotto beat quintana a future champ then went to KO zab which Fraud was unable to do and then beat shane mosley a fighter in a class that FRAUD has never seen before FRAUD has never beat a fighter like shane mosley thats how you legitiomize your bel by fight the top comp in the division not by fighting undersized bums and some scrub with 9 losses
BADINTENTIONS2
05-14-2008, 06:07 PM
cotto went to KO zab which Fraud was unable to do
pretty easy to choose to forget the tenth when more than a few people thought that zab was ready to take, isn't it?
sambob
05-14-2008, 06:08 PM
what top 10 WW he beats, what top 10 ww has fraud beat...
and the fight took place at 147 after collazo embarrased hatton so everybody knew that hatton was NO good at that weight so him being a linear champ at 140 and a p4p fighter based on what he did at 140 is irrelevant b/c the fight took place at 147 MORON
Nobody said Hatton was a top 147 lb fighter. They keep saying that POUND FOR POUND he was better. Why is that? Because he is the undisputed champ at 140 lbs! You say Hatton is bad at 147.... well isn't Cotto worse at 140? Its the same thing.
In fact, if Hatton stayed in shape between fights he could easily fight at 135! Does anyone think he would not be able to make a splash there? Thats why its called pound for pound.
Against a true welterweight Hatton is at a disadvantage of size and strength... if Hatton had fought Cotto at 147 I would understand you complaining about him as an opponent. BUT, Hatton fought FLOYD. Floyd started his career at 130 lbs. Many would say that is his best weight. Therefore fighting Hatton at 147 is a good matchup. Hatton is not weaker at 147 than he is at 140.... he is just against stronger opponents than he is used to.
I've seen you post that "point" of yours about Hatton to make Floyd look bad a dozen times over the last couple of days and each time I point out why it isn't relevent. So why don't you stop spouting off that bullshit and acknowledge that Hatton not being able to beat someone like Cotto has nothing to do with his fighting Floyd.
This ganchozurdo guy is a TROLL. He should just be ignored.
ganchozurdo
05-14-2008, 06:12 PM
Nobody said Hatton was a top 147 lb fighter. They keep saying that POUND FOR POUND he was better. Why is that? Because he is the undisputed champ at 140 lbs! You say Hatton is bad at 147.... well isn't Cotto worse at 140? Its the same thing.
In fact, if Hatton stayed in shape between fights he could easily fight at 135! Does anyone think he would not be able to make a splash there? Thats why its called pound for pound.
Against a true welterweight Hatton is at a disadvantage of size and strength... if Hatton had fought Cotto at 147 I would understand you complaining about him as an opponent. BUT, Hatton fought FLOYD. Floyd started his career at 130 lbs. Many would say that is his best weight. Therefore fighting Hatton at 147 is a good matchup. Hatton is not weaker at 147 than he is at 140.... he is just against stronger opponents than he is used to.
I've seen you post that "point" of yours about Hatton to make Floyd look bad a dozen times over the last couple of days and each time I point out why it isn't relevent. So why don't you stop spouting off that bullshit and acknowledge that Hatton not being able to beat someone like Cotto has nothing to do with his fighting Floyd.
This ganchozurdo guy is a TROLL. He should just be ignored.
but he is a scrub when you compare him to the best the WW division has to offer, at least you are admitting that FRAUD took the path of least resistance when he took on hatton at list you are making some progress
Alo2006
05-14-2008, 06:15 PM
Haterade^
sambob
05-14-2008, 06:23 PM
but he is a scrub when you compare him to the best the WW division has to offer, at least you are admitting that FRAUD took the path of least resistance when he took on hatton at list you are making some progress
No No no. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
WHY DOES IT MATTER WHETHER HATTON IS A TOP WELTERWEIGHT?
Floyd happens to be a 130 lb fighter who has MOVED UP in weight. Therefore any legitimate challenger (and you can't get more legit than an undisputed champ, and pound for pound top 10!) who is a natural 130-154 lb fighter is a legitimate opponent.
If Hatton and Floyd had fought at 140 lbs would you be bitching about Floyd fighting Hatton??
And last, nothing about fighting at 147 makes Hatton weaker than at 140, its the fact that he's fighting guys bigger and stronger than he is used to.
THEREFORE - Hatton was a legit opponent for Floyd.
Nobody complained about Floyd fighting Hatton until AFTER Floyd knocked his ass out!
C Money
05-14-2008, 07:06 PM
:think :think :think :think
WTF did this thread pop back 4 anyway?:huh
Yes Hatton was a LEGIT OPPONENT! He was the Champion at 140 and Floyd wouldnt take his title there. SO? It was necessary and really should have happened at 140 but Floyd got his wish for 47.
In the end? 40 or 47? Floyd Ko'd Ricky:good
Which brings me to the QUESTION??
WTF are we talking bout Floyd and Ricky fo??
Tryin to build controversey, ineterest, :huh
It aint working:nono Floyds still up to the usual routine:yikes
"MAKE THE FUCKING FIGHT" PBF 24/7 Lets LESSON LEARNED 2 MIguel Cotto shall we?:rasta
C Money
05-14-2008, 07:11 PM
No No no. Stop trying to put words in my mouth.
WHY DOES IT MATTER WHETHER HATTON IS A TOP WELTERWEIGHT?
Floyd happens to be a 130 lb fighter who has MOVED UP in weight. Therefore any legitimate challenger (and you can't get more legit than an undisputed champ, and pound for pound top 10!) who is a natural 130-154 lb fighter is a legitimate opponent.
If Hatton and Floyd had fought at 140 lbs would you be bitching about Floyd fighting Hatton??
And last, nothing about fighting at 147 makes Hatton weaker than at 140, its the fact that he's fighting guys bigger and stronger than he is used to.
THEREFORE - Hatton was a legit opponent for Floyd.
Nobody complained about Floyd fighting Hatton until AFTER Floyd knocked his ass out!
See shit like dat? Know u dont dont shit bout that:yep
Hattons frame is built to 140. I dont give a fuck what weight he ballons 2, his HEIGTH and REACH limit his effectiveness as he moves up where he'll invariably face much taller/bigger opponents.
First Mayweather fans use Collazo as excuse and 47 as why Floyd shouldnt fight and spend a year or 2 defending OFFERS and BS now turn around and try to use Hattons a real WW??
:patsch :patsch :patsch
STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hi:
maciek4
05-14-2008, 07:23 PM
Well if you did good for you I'll have to take your word for it. You see I'm fair unlike some of these posters here.:good
I found my prediction for that fight
Unfortunatelly I see it exactly like that 8 rounds to 4 for Mayweather, Hatton will be too small.
btw I share birthday with Floyd Maywather just realised that
Pimp C
05-14-2008, 07:24 PM
I found my original prediction for that fight
btw I share birthday with Floyd Maywather just realised that
You did indeed.
El Matador
05-14-2008, 07:27 PM
I think most of ESB, deep down inside, they know that Floyd Mayweather Jr. is an accomplished fighter, a great one, probably one of the top-5 of his era. A great talent with a blend of speed and skill that hasn't been seen very often. His opposition, though he has not faced a couple of key names, is tight, with wins over De La Hoya, Hatton, Judah... it goes on.
I guess some people are turned off with the ignorant publicity stunts he'll pull ("MONEY" MAYWEATHER!) or his safefty first style in and outside of the ring. But you've got to admit he is one of the finest boxers of his time.
bxrfan
05-14-2008, 07:50 PM
Haterade^
Damn. . . . . . . That avatar. . . . .
sambob
05-15-2008, 12:04 AM
See shit like dat? Know u dont dont shit bout that:yep
Hattons frame is built to 140. I dont give a fuck what weight he ballons 2, his HEIGTH and REACH limit his effectiveness as he moves up where he'll invariably face much taller/bigger opponents.
First Mayweather fans use Collazo as excuse and 47 as why Floyd shouldnt fight and spend a year or 2 defending OFFERS and BS now turn around and try to use Hattons a real WW??
:patsch :patsch :patsch
STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:hi:
I'm talking about Hatton because gachozurdo keeps bringing him up. I replied to his posts.
And you're missing the point again. Hattons frame does give him a disadvantage against some welterweights... but Floyd is not one of those, as Floyd is NOT a natual welterweight. Thats all I was saying. You totally just read my post wrong, chill out. Why would I post two posts in a row, each with diffferent ideas behind them?
Alo2006
05-15-2008, 01:40 AM
Thanks for bumping this thread and giving me a good laugh for all the people who said PBF couldn't hurt Hatton and PBF would quit against Hatton.
Yeah, where are those idiots now?
dave82
05-15-2008, 01:40 AM
I love how Floyd dismantled Hatton. And what a left hook. Hence my avatar
Alo2006
05-15-2008, 01:43 AM
Damn. . . . . . . That avatar. . . . .
I know :yep :hey
C Money
05-15-2008, 02:59 PM
I'm talking about Hatton because gachozurdo keeps bringing him up. I replied to his posts.
And you're missing the point again. Hattons frame does give him a disadvantage against some welterweights... but Floyd is not one of those, as Floyd is NOT a natual welterweight. Thats all I was saying. You totally just read my post wrong, chill out. Why would I post two posts in a row, each with diffferent ideas behind them?
More like MOST TOP WW's:good In addition to his FRAME? His style is also a hindrance when trying 2 outmuscle/slug bigger men. So when you combine frame and STYLE? Hatton has no real business and consideration at 147.
Cotto isnt a giant but HE CAN BOX and uses/understands angles and defense. Compare his frame and style and he IS a WW vs Haztton who'sa 140 fighter.
It wasnt one point and there was two posts which indicate I wasnt just talking to you:nono I specifically pointed yours out because some of the statements indicated. You dont know what ur saying:yep
Floyds chosen 47 and its the peak years of his career. I know all floyd fans say he's natural 130:lol: Rarely does one ever stay where they start and Floyd complained long and hard while making 30 and 35. You definitely cant say the pathetic stop at 40 is in any way his noteworthy or natural weight either. 147 is where Floyd has chosen to be during what should be the peak of his career.
imp4pdabest
03-03-2009, 05:30 PM
He still doesn't get the props he deserves.
NeckBreaknAiken
03-03-2009, 05:37 PM
This is hilarious! People can really be fuckin stupid sometimes.... Ricky Hatton????
FINITO
03-03-2009, 05:39 PM
I agree with the title of this thread.
sdsfinest22
03-03-2009, 06:26 PM
Hey fellaz I remember people on here saying Hatton was gonna be way to strong on the inside and all this bull$hit..Certain posters (though I won't mention any names) said they'd respect PBF if he knocked Hatton out...AFTER THE FIGHT THEY MADE EXCUSES!
doomeddisciple
03-03-2009, 06:33 PM
PBF is retired, he wasted, yes wasted his talent by chasing relatively soft touches after such a sterling first half of his career, I just wish before he retired he took some decent welters on so you could actually see him tested against sterner opposition.
I have a tonne of respect for his boxing skill and a tonne of respect for his athletic abilities and achievements up to 135. After that not so much.
The biggest problem with the half of ESB that know the truth is that it goes beyond truth and into out and out fantasy land. Just yesterday even p4pdabest had to pull up some of the over exageration in the Manny Vs Tszyu thread when someone posted 130lbs Floyd would beat prime Kostya Tszyu.
There's the truth and then there's stretching it.
imp4pdabest
03-03-2009, 06:37 PM
PBF is retired, he wasted, yes wasted his talent by chasing relatively soft touches after such a sterling first half of his career, I just wish before he retired he took some decent welters on so you could actually see him tested against sterner opposition.
I have a tonne of respect for his boxing skill and a tonne of respect for his athletic abilities and achievements up to 135. After that not so much.
The biggest problem with the half of ESB that know the truth is that it goes beyond truth and into out and out fantasy land. Just yesterday even p4pdabest had to pull up some of the over exageration in the Manny Vs Tszyu thread when someone posted 130lbs Floyd would beat prime Kostya Tszyu.
There's the truth and then there's stretching it.
Tszyu was one of the best 140 lbers ever. Some ppl never even seen Tszyu fight, they think he was just some big puncher, they fell to realize he was a good boxer also. Just cause Hatton beat him, that doesn't represent who he was. He wasn one of the best amateur fighters ever. To say PBF @ 130 would KO Tszyu @ 140 is retarded. Even if they would've fought at 140, I highly doubt Tszyu would've been KO'd by PBF.
doomeddisciple
03-03-2009, 06:58 PM
Tszyu was one of the best 140 lbers ever. Some ppl never even seen Tszyu fight, they think he was just some big puncher, they fell to realize he was a good boxer also. Just cause Hatton beat him, that doesn't represent who he was. He wasn one of the best amateur fighters ever. To say PBF @ 130 would KO Tszyu @ 140 is retarded. Even if they would've fought at 140, I highly doubt Tszyu would've been KO'd by PBF.
Careful mate, we might actually agree on something!
:good
imp4pdabest
03-03-2009, 07:02 PM
Careful mate, we might actually agree on something!
:good
LoL. Seriously though.
And don't call me mate, I'm not some Britt, Im an American.
sdsfinest22
03-03-2009, 07:04 PM
Careful mate, we might actually agree on something!
:good
ne 1 who thinkg Floyd @130 would beat let alone Ko Tszu is makin something what it isn't...Floyd at 140 vs Kostya at 140 is a good fight..I don't Kostya bein kod though!
doomeddisciple
03-03-2009, 07:06 PM
LoL. Seriously though.
And don't call me mate, I'm not some Britt, Im an American.
Yeah, and I'm an Aussie so everyone is "mate".
Borincano
03-03-2009, 07:07 PM
KT was a very deceptive speedster. He never looked like a fast figher, but he was. Guys like Zab thought he was slow and robotic. He learned the hard way. His stanze reminded me of Rosario. I was told it is a kickboxing stanze. PBF challeged KT from 130 when KT beat Zab. KT stated that PBF worry about the 130 division. I wonder how that would have faired if PBF did jump right up from 130 to 140 to avenge Zab.
Pimp C
03-03-2009, 09:39 PM
Thanks for bumping brought back some funny memories.
MAG1965
03-03-2009, 09:53 PM
I told you fucks for the better part of 4 months that PBF would expose Hatton and half the people on ESB don't know boxing and tonight once again I proved you fucks wrong again. It must really suck always being wrong. Thinking a guy with no jab and no guard who is squared up 90% of the time would beat and elite defensive counter-puncher was borderline insane. It was a stylistic nightmare for Hatton and I told you fucks Hatton would go down in flames. Like I told you for the Oscar and Gatti before that PBF wouldn't be denied. PBF is a complete boxer a true top 30 ATG who has excellent footwork and defense. His counter-punching was key he landed the harder shots and Hatton went down down in defeat along with his dumbass delusional fans who thought a weigh-in and a bunch of drunk fans singing and beating drums would win a fight. I love it, dumb son of a bitches you will respect me and PBF when it comes to boxing. I'm here all night and months after that. When will you fucks learn don't bet against PBF:fire:fire:fire I knew Floyd would beat Hatton. He fought a guy who was a natural 140 pound guy at 147. Why? He had guys who were better and stronger at 147 to fight and he didn't.
Borincano
03-03-2009, 10:09 PM
Thanks for bumping brought back some funny memories.
You angry man you.
imp4pdabest
03-03-2009, 10:11 PM
You angry man you.
He haeason to be. Ppl talkin bout Amir Kahn beats PBF :patsch
Borincano
03-03-2009, 10:16 PM
He haeason to be. Ppl talkin bout Amir Kahn beats PBF :patsch
Now you know I am not stupid, AK beats PBF? You guys play too much. By the way, I have a bad feeling AK is going to beat MAB. Real bad feeling.
imp4pdabest
03-03-2009, 10:18 PM
Now you know I am not stupid, AK beats PBF? You guys play too much. By the way, I have a bad feeling AK is going to beat MAB. Real bad feeling.
AK vs PBF, that would be a tough one. I'd favor PBF by a tough SD.
PH|LLA
03-04-2009, 04:30 PM
I made some $$ on this fight. easy pick.
imp4pdabest
03-04-2009, 04:55 PM
I made some $$ on this fight. easy pick.
LoL. Smart man
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