Lessons Learned from tonight's fight

[compukiller]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.

2. People had asked if Hatton would do better than DLH against PBF This would have been impossible. DLH is a better fighter than Hatton can ever hope to be, in every single dept.

3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

4. PBF does have punching power. He didn't win 39 fights with love taps.

5. Hatton, nice guy that he is, is not that good. If he cannot use his rough house tactics, he cannot win. His boxing technique is borderline deplorable.

6 HBO has gotten into the practice of trying to brainwash to public into thinking a fighter is great. The whole broadcast was a Hatton love fest, right until the KO. And they gave virtually no credit to PBF after the KO.

7. Hatton better stay the hell away from DLH.

[digiram]

Man, I couldn't agree more and lesson number 4 is the exact reason why I would rank him above sweet pea.

[Johnnyblaze]

I really hate the way Merchant and Lampley's commentating during Floyd's recent fights. They seemed to be cheering for Oscar and Ricky to beat him. Like you said, they give Floyd no credit when he wins either.

[joe the great]

How important the jab is.
The ref can really screw up a perfectly good fight.

[heidegger]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.



True. What I dont get is how people that tipped Hatton had this fact ellude them. I mean really, what could be a more obviously truth in boxing?

[paulfv]

1. Hatton is not a WW, but he had balls to go up and fight PBF

2. PBF knew he had been in a war, which was why he was so thankful and bowing and stuff afterwards. That's also one reason he gave so much props to Hatton afterwards. That was the hardest fight he's had since JLC I.

3. PBF was smart to pick Hatton, and make him come up. Hatton sucked against Collazo, and PBF guessed correctly that he was much better than Collazo and that Hatton would not get it done at 147.

4. Joe Cortez is an idiot. 1) PBF was initiating most of the clinches, particularly early on; 2) the point deducted against Hatton should have been a KD of PBF

5. Both fighters have huge hearts

6. Even guys that don't hit hard can KO you if they catch you when you're not ready

[xioyux]

3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

Absolutely pathetic joke. No one hates PBF because he's black, that's absolutely ridiculous: Boxing is dominated by blacks. People hate Mayweather because of the awesome show of ego he puts on before fights. People hate him because they think he's an ass.

[compukiller]

1. Hatton is not a WW, but he had balls to go up and fight PBF

2. PBF knew he had been in a war, which was why he was so thankful and bowing and stuff afterwards. That's also one reason he gave so much props to Hatton afterwards. That was the hardest fight he's had since JLC I.

3. PBF was smart to pick Hatton, and make him come up. Hatton sucked against Collazo, and PBF guessed correctly that he was much better than Collazo and that Hatton would not get it done at 147.

4. Joe Cortez is an idiot. 1) PBF was initiating most of the clinches, particularly early on; 2) the point deducted against Hatton should have been a KD of PBF

5. Both fighters have huge hearts

6. Even guys that don't hit hard can KO you if they catch you when you're not ready

Are you saying Hatton did better against PBF than DLH did???:huh

[stack]

first off i gotta say that i really was not impressed with hattons boxing skills at all. first round i thought we were just gonna see a clinic and then we got to the roughhousing..i've never seen a fight like this where the ref was in there that much. I'm so happy with mayweathers KO since all those UK limey bastards gave no respect for our national anthem,but cotto will prob destroy both of them...money mayweather lifestyle flashy all respect for the finish, but no fight vs. cotto= nothing

[paulfv]

Are you saying Hatton did better against PBF than DLH did???:huh

Yeah, I think he did.

DLH is old, and did what he always does -- gas out late. He had some good rounds, but got killed late.

Hatton was in his groove, doing what he does which is to wear guys down. But he got dumb, and he got caught -- fight over.

DLH can't fight the way he tried to fight. Hatton was fighting the way he always fights. DLH had his moments, for sure, but he just faded away, like a guy who never had great stamina and who is old and spends too much time away from the ring.

[compukiller]

Absolutely pathetic joke. No one hates PBF because he's black, that's absolutely ridiculous: Boxing is dominated by blacks. People hate Mayweather because of the awesome show of ego he puts on before fights. People hate him because they think he's an ass.

He is an ass, and I am not one to play the race card all the time, but boxing always has a problem with a black guy who goes against the grain and is vocal about things. A go along to get along guy like JT, the establishment loves. But someone like BHOP, they hate. And so it goes.

[See Me Flow]

The Brits Are Disrespectful Poor Sports. The End.

[compukiller]

Yeah, I think he did.

DLH is old, and did what he always does -- gas out late. He had some good rounds, but got killed late.

Hatton was in his groove, doing what he does which is to wear guys down. But he got dumb, and he got caught -- fight over.

DLH can't fight the way he tried to fight. Hatton was fighting the way he always fights. DLH had his moments, for sure, but he just faded away, like a guy who never had great stamina and who is old and spends too much time away from the ring.

Dude Hatton was going to be KTFO by PBF because he was taking way too many solid punches. PBF broke him down and KO'ed him, it was not a matter of Hatton just "getting caught".

And DLH actually won on one scorecard. Hatton was totally out of the fight at the time of the KO.

DLH also landed more punches on PBF, and swelled his eye up.

[paulfv]

He is an ass, and I am not one to play the race card all the time, but boxing always has a problem with a black guy who goes against the grain and is vocal about things.

No doubt about it. Just ask Jack Johnson about that. They freaking nailed him on some dumbass transporting a prostitute or something because white America was so pissed off with him.

But they loved Joe Louis, who was the 'nice guy.' Same thing with Floyd Patterson and Sonny Liston, or Ali.

PBF is smart; he plays up the whole 'gangsta' thing b/c there's money to be made from playing that role. Then, everyone wants to see you lose. It's good marketing by him.

[BigReg]

1. Hatton is not a WW, but he had balls to go up and fight PBF

2. PBF knew he had been in a war, which was why he was so thankful and bowing and stuff afterwards. That's also one reason he gave so much props to Hatton afterwards. That was the hardest fight he's had since JLC I.

3. PBF was smart to pick Hatton, and make him come up. Hatton sucked against Collazo, and PBF guessed correctly that he was much better than Collazo and that Hatton would not get it done at 147.

4. Joe Cortez is an idiot. 1) PBF was initiating most of the clinches, particularly early on; 2) the point deducted against Hatton should have been a KD of PBF

5. Both fighters have huge hearts

6. Even guys that don't hit hard can KO you if they catch you when you're not ready

I can only agree with points 1,3, and 5. Point 2 was terrible. Mayweather made easy work of Hatton. I gave Hatton one round. Hatton wasn't throwing alot of punches and he only landed 17% of his punches. Hatton was dominated on the inside and Floyd landed all the good body blows, and inside fighting and body punching is supposed to be Hatton's specialty. Hatton is not even close to Floyd's level, and tonight proved it. IMO, DLH and Judah gave him a tougher fight.

[digiram]

4. Joe Cortez is an idiot. 1) PBF was initiating most of the clinches, particularly early on; 2) the point deducted against Hatton should have been a KD of PBF



Wow!!!! You really need to stop posting. Have you never seen a Ricky Hatton fight. Look, PBF has inside fighting skills. If Hatton was on the inside with his fists in frond of him looking to punch, then maybe we would get to see some good inside fighting. However, Hatton lunges in, puts his body on your chest, grabs your arms, and looks to hit you while trying to break your arms apart. So PBF was right in pushing off with his forearm to create space, and hold and hit his ass back. You can't just let him continue to do that. You've gotta show him that you're willing and able to get punches on him durring the grapples as well.

[Pugalist]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.

2. People had asked if Hatton would do better than DLH against PBF This would have been impossible. DLH is a better fighter than Hatton can ever hope to be, in every single dept.

3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

4. PBF does have punching power. He didn't win 39 fights with love taps.

5. Hatton, nice guy that he is, is not that good. If he cannot use his rough house tactics, he cannot win. His boxing technique is borderline deplorable.

6 HBO has gotten into the practice of trying to brainwash to public into thinking a fighter is great. The whole broadcast was a Hatton love fest, right until the KO. And they gave virtually no credit to PBF after the KO.

7. Hatton better stay the hell away from DLH.

I was going for Hatton (just like the underdog is all). Hell I was pulling for Rocky not Apollo Creed (nothing against the latter) as well - haha. Floyd is just fun to hate. I think everyone knows he is a phenom. Add to that his trash talking and of course you wanna see someone kick his ass. Everyone gives him props afterwards. But the HBO crew did look kind of depressed afterwards didn't they, almost as if the bad guy won. Still, a bigger version of Hatton likely takes that fight. Imagine Floyd moving up from 140 and Hatton coming down from 147.

[josak]

Hatton's technique isn't 'deplorable.' He's a good fighter. Mayweather is just better.

[Lacyace]

Excellent lessons my man. Lots of people learned something tonight.

[doomeddisciple]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.

No where near enough focus on body punching - He must have watched 24/7 where he saw the uppercut counter team Mayweather prepared...

2. People had asked if Hatton would do better than DLH against PBF This would have been impossible. DLH is a better fighter than Hatton can ever hope to be, in every single dept.

Hatton's style was more effective and tougher than Judah, Bladomir or Gatti - He bought the best out in Floyd tonight. Hatton drew more fire out of PBF than DLH did.


3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

Yes, Ray Leonard was an unpopular chap, Mike Tyson, who the hell knew anything about that guy in the 80s? Or how about that Michael Jordan guy all the kids hated...Ridiculous - Floyd is a dickhead sometimes = A genius in the ring and an athlete supreme, but he can be a wanker. People don't like that - Not his skin colour.


4. PBF does have punching power. He didn't win 39 fights with love taps.

Word.

5. Hatton, nice guy that he is, is not that good. If he cannot use his rough house tactics, he cannot win. His boxing technique is borderline deplorable.

His clinch and maul was never going to work in Vegas or on American soil. He was better than people gave him credit for though.

6 HBO has gotten into the practice of trying to brainwash to public into thinking a fighter is great. The whole broadcast was a Hatton love fest, right until the KO. And they gave virtually no credit to PBF after the KO.

There's nothing new about the HBO cheerleading.

7. Hatton better stay the hell away from DLH.

Amen.

[paulfv]

I can only agree with points 1,3, and 5. Point 2 was terrible. Mayweather made easy work of Hatton. I gave Hatton one round. Hatton wasn't throwing alot of punches and he only landed 17% of his punches. Hatton was dominated on the inside and Floyd landed all the good body blows, and inside fighting and body punching is supposed to be Hatton's specialty. Hatton is not even close to Floyd's level, and tonight proved it. IMO, DLH and Judah gave him a tougher fight.

When you saw Floyd kneeling on the ring and looking like he had just run a marathon, you could tell how tough this had been for him. This was what DLH could have done had he had stamina and youth. Floyd got mauled in the ring, muscled, pushed, hit, shoved, everything. Hatton was a beast and he was all over Floyd. I haven't seen Floyd roughed up like that ever, and he took a lot of clean shots. Just watch it again, that was a rough, tough fight, especially for someone who is used to easy fights.

[Pimp C]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.

2. People had asked if Hatton would do better than DLH against PBF This would have been impossible. DLH is a better fighter than Hatton can ever hope to be, in every single dept.

3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

4. PBF does have punching power. He didn't win 39 fights with love taps.

5. Hatton, nice guy that he is, is not that good. If he cannot use his rough house tactics, he cannot win. His boxing technique is borderline deplorable.

6 HBO has gotten into the practice of trying to brainwash to public into thinking a fighter is great. The whole broadcast was a Hatton love fest, right until the KO. And they gave virtually no credit to PBF after the KO.

7. Hatton better stay the hell away from DLH.
Good stuff I agree.
1. Weigh-ins, singing and chanting crowds don't win you fights.
2. Defense, footwork and counter-punching are underestimated in boxing today.
3. PBF isn't feather-fisted like people said he was.
4. Oscar had a better chance of beating PBF than Hatton did.
5.Without being able to hold Hatton's boxing skills are terrible. I could beat him.
6. 75% of people on ESB don't know boxing.
7. PBF is a top 30 ATG.
8. You can only get so far in boxing without a good jab.

[Pugalist]

He is an ass, and I am not one to play the race card all the time, but boxing always has a problem with a black guy who goes against the grain and is vocal about things. A go along to get along guy like JT, the establishment loves. But someone like BHOP, they hate. And so it goes.

Nothing to do with being black. It's because he's an egotistical ass. We all hated Prince Naseem too for that reason. By the way, I'm trying to think of a white fighter that was like this (an egotistical ass), but no one is coming to mind. Anyways, I'm sure if Floyd was white, chinese, peruvian, whatever, and acted the same way, everyone would still want to see him get his ass kicked. Still, can't deny his skills or legacy, but it sure would be fun to see someone shut his mouth...just once..that's all....

[heidegger]

When you saw Floyd kneeling on the ring and looking like he had just run a marathon, you could tell how tough this had been for him. This was what DLH could have done had he had stamina and youth. Floyd got mauled in the ring, muscled, pushed, hit, shoved, everything. Hatton was a beast and he was all over Floyd. I haven't seen Floyd roughed up like that ever, and he took a lot of clean shots. Just watch it again, that was a rough, tough fight, especially for someone who is used to easy fights.

Hatton has the ability to make any fighter work for their win. I'll give him that. Its part and parcel of his style. f= But that doesnt mean Floyd was ever in any danger. The writing was on the wall very early. PBF had an answer for everything Hatton could do. I'd have to disagree with you about Floyd taking a lot of clean shot. Hatton hardley landed a clean punch all night. Some people (i.e. Hatton Fans ) tend to give points for making a fighter go backwards. They dont know boxing. Boxing is about landing scoring shots to the head and body. Hatton did little of this. He got outsmarted, outboxed, and beat down by a far far superior boxer. This was not a close fight.

[Symphenyceo]

Hatton has the ability to make any fighter work for their win. I'll give him that. Its part and parcel of his style. f= But that doesnt mean Floyd was ever in any danger. The writing was on the wall very early. PBF had an answer for everything Hatton could do. I'd have to disagree with you about Floyd taking a lot of clean shot. Hatton hardley landed a clean punch all night. Some people (i.e. Hatton Fans (tend to give points for making a fighter go backwards). They done know boxing. Boxing is about landing scoring shots to the head and body. Hatton did little of this. He got outsmarted, outboxed, and beat down by a far far superior boxer. This was not a close fight.
:good Hatton landed in sigle difits in almost every rd...alot of his punches were caught on the shoulder...the fight wasnt really close i gave Hatton 1 rd...(rd5)

[Symphenyceo]

When you saw Floyd kneeling on the ring and looking like he had just run a marathon, you could tell how tough this had been for him. This was what DLH could have done had he had stamina and youth. Floyd got mauled in the ring, muscled, pushed, hit, shoved, everything. Hatton was a beast and he was all over Floyd. I haven't seen Floyd roughed up like that ever, and he took a lot of clean shots. Just watch it again, that was a rough, tough fight, especially for someone who is used to easy fights.


:patsch he was crying...he was no where near tired..not even close

[Vaile]

Yeah, I think he did.

DLH is old, and did what he always does -- gas out late. He had some good rounds, but got killed late.

Hatton was in his groove, doing what he does which is to wear guys down. But he got dumb, and he got caught -- fight over.

DLH can't fight the way he tried to fight. Hatton was fighting the way he always fights. DLH had his moments, for sure, but he just faded away, like a guy who never had great stamina and who is old and spends too much time away from the ring.


Hatton will always get caught against an elite fighter because he has no skill. it's not down to tactics, he can only fight one way and he fought it.

[markbrooklyn]

1. Pressure alone, with no defense and wide punches, will not win you a fight.

2. People had asked if Hatton would do better than DLH against PBF This would have been impossible. DLH is a better fighter than Hatton can ever hope to be, in every single dept.

3. The boxing establishment really hates PBF with a passion, and racism has alot to do with it. People hate when a young, black, rich man flaunts his success. Sad, but true.

4. PBF does have punching power. He didn't win 39 fights with love taps.

5. Hatton, nice guy that he is, is not that good. If he cannot use his rough house tactics, he cannot win. His boxing technique is borderline deplorable.

6 HBO has gotten into the practice of trying to brainwash to public into thinking a fighter is great. The whole broadcast was a Hatton love fest, right until the KO. And they gave virtually no credit to PBF after the KO.

7. Hatton better stay the hell away from DLH.


I AGREE 100% WITH EVERYTHING YOU JUST SAID. GREAT POST!!

[K0NPHL1C7]

1. Hatton is not a WW, but he had balls to go up and fight PBF

2. PBF knew he had been in a war, which was why he was so thankful and bowing and stuff afterwards. That's also one reason he gave so much props to Hatton afterwards. That was the hardest fight he's had since JLC I.

3. PBF was smart to pick Hatton, and make him come up. Hatton sucked against Collazo, and PBF guessed correctly that he was much better than Collazo and that Hatton would not get it done at 147.

4. Joe Cortez is an idiot. 1) PBF was initiating most of the clinches, particularly early on; 2) the point deducted against Hatton should have been a KD of PBF

5. Both fighters have huge hearts

6. Even guys that don't hit hard can KO you if they catch you when you're not ready

Dude you're fucking retarded.