Big John McCarthy retired

[Dostoevsky]

Wow, I only just noticed that BJM retired tonight!
And the UFC didn't even say anything about his departure! :-(

He's as much of the UFC as the octagon and the actual name "UFC" itself!
Been there for 14 years since UFC 2, done THOUSANDS of fights in the MMA world and not even a 'thank you' :twisted: What the hell! :fire:fire

The guy is a legend.

[Beebs]

They didn't do anything? That really sucks, I hope they do at the next PPV or something.

The guy is a fucking legend, fighters are often starstruck by him, he's a ref that has to sign autographs for shits sake.

What was best about him was he was geniuenly interested in fighter saftey, he was the reason for the implementation of ref stoppages before sanctioning, and always makes sure the guy who got hurt is ok and as rediculous as it sounds is somewhat fatherly and comforting to them.

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the pic above looks like BJM is holding the fighter like hes a baby

[scurlaruntings]

Didnt do a good job in the earliers UFC`s did he? I saw Patrick Smith elbow the fuck out of some poor guys head in UFC2..

Anyway why has he retired?

[scurlaruntings]

Its on Sherdog

[ufoalf]

Thats too bad.

[ravtrav]

How much do you think he gets paid? Per fight?

[AJAX]

Didnt do a good job in the earliers UFC`s did he? I saw Patrick Smith elbow the fuck out of some poor guys head in UFC2..

Anyway why has he retired?

he was a hell of alot better then that twit of a ref in UFC 1 when guys were tapping and he didn't know what the fuck to do, he would sit there with his arms held out but wouldn't stop the fight...and the guy was tapping frantically..... it was a miracle nobody got seriously hurt .

[quintonjacksonfan]

He will be missed

[scurlaruntings]

Ok no ones said WHY John has left/retired..

[Beebs]

Ok no ones said WHY John has left/retired..

He's been doing it for a long ass time, has a succesful gym, and wants to live the retired life?

[IcanzIIravor]

Wonder how much he was making doing it. Best of luck to him. He definitely has to be the most recognized ref in the world.

[IntentionalButt]

He's been doing it for a long ass time, has a succesful gym, and wants to live the retired life?

Sick of Dana's BS? Seems to be a prevailing theme lately. :yep

[scurlaruntings]

He's been doing it for a long ass time, has a succesful gym, and wants to live the retired life?Hmmm sounds a bit dodgy to me.His one of the most known refs in the world as well as having a huge amount of respect amongst his peers.I smell a rat.

[Beebs]

And the stupid continues to run wild on this forum.

The athletic commisions employee the refs, not the organizations, I don't think Jon was ever a Zuffa employee, only SEG before sanctioning.

[IntentionalButt]

And the stupid continues to run wild on this forum.

The athletic commisions employee the refs, not the organizations, I don't think Jon was ever a Zuffa employee, only SEG before sanctioning.

Well okay. Why would that be common knowledge? There's a bit of a dividing line between stupid and "only marginally interested in following MMA anymore"/hadn't really thought the matter of ref affiliation through. :lol:

[Beebs]

Well okay. Why would that be common knowledge? There's a bit of a dividing line between stupid and "only marginally interested in following MMA anymore"/hadn't really thought the matter of ref affiliation through. :lol:

Because its the exact same in boxing?

Because if youve ever seen a non UFC MMA event in the states you'll notice alot of the same refs?

[ufoalf]

Beebs, I see you got pretty comfortable with that sig of yours. Did it become truthful by any chance? :P

[Beebs]

I've always had sig's turned off to be honest

[ufoalf]

I've always had sig's turned off to be honest

:good

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Didnt do a good job in the earliers UFC`s did he? I saw Patrick Smith elbow the fuck out of some poor guys head in UFC2..

Anyway why has he retired?
Which is why Big John pushed to be able to stop the fight himself by UFC 3. Big John was not allowed to stop the fight in UFC 2. After Big John demanded the rule change, he was then allowed to stop fights in UFC 3, and every one after.

In UFC 2, the fight could only be stopped by knockout, submission, or corner stoppage. Can't really blame McCarthy for that.

[IntentionalButt]

Because its the exact same in boxing?

Because if youve ever seen a non UFC MMA event in the states you'll notice alot of the same refs?

The only other American promotion I've seen any of is EliteXC, and I didn't recognize any officials on the couple of cards I watched. :conf