For those that think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily: Slap yourselves.

[BITCH ASS]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

[Arkanscott]

I think Cotto has the best chance to beat Floyd. He has proven that he can deal with speed (SSM fight) and he has the tools to beat Floyd.

Oscar and Zeb (and Hatton to a degree) showed that the way to beat Floyd is through rough-house tactics, pressure and working the body. Oscar was to old (he could've won the fight if he didn't get worn out), Floyd was able to figure Zeb out and Hatton didn't use selective aggression (he just walked in and started throwing). I think Cotto could land his jab against Floyd (like Oscar did) and rough-house (like Oscar, Hatton and Zeb). I also think that he could work his body real good (has anyone ever really done this against Floyd?).

It would be a great fight. I hope it happens. I really don't know who would win, but it would go down as one of the greatest fights.

I really think our best chance of seeing this fight happen is for Cotto to contiue to fight for a year or two, being very active and make a name for himself...then, Floyd will have monetary reasons to risk defeat.

Man, I hope this happens...

Cotto, if you read this site, please, after your next victory, start talking shit about Floyd so he'll look over to his manager and say, "make the fight happen"

[Guru_Too_You]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

Funny but after all that talk, Cotto is going after De La Hoya. Another one of Floyd's leftovers. If they wanted the bout with Floyd, they would have at least TRIED to make it happen considering its the biggest fight in boxing right now.

This isnt the first time team Cotto has run in the other direction.

[mr. magoo]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?

[Guru_Too_You]

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?
:good

[BITCH ASS]

Funny but after all that talk, Cotto is going after De La Hoya. Another one of Floyd's leftovers. If they wanted the bout with Floyd, they would have at least TRIED to make it happen considering its the biggest fight in boxing right now.

This isnt the first time team Cotto has run in the other direction.

I hate to say it, but Floyd is a very good fighter.

I wouldn't mind it if Cotto fought DLH.

Honestly, I still think that DLH-PBF could have been a draw, so it's not like DLH is an easy fight.

Personally, I think now is the time for Cotto to go after PBF because I think he's gotten all the preperation that he needs, but if he fights DLH, I'm not upset about it.

Floyd said that he's retiring anyway, so he probably needs some time to think things over before getting in the ring with Cotto.

[BITCH ASS]

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?

It doesn't necessarily tell me anything right now.

Perhaps Cotto is trying to make a statement by fighting DLH.

Maybe he thinks he can knock him out. If that is the case, think about the publicity that would surround a Cotto-Mayweather fight.

It would be one of the biggest fights in HISTORY!

[BITCH ASS]

Everything that Hatton did poorly was a result of Mayweather boxing brilliantly. Hatton didn't revert to coming in a straight line and getting picked off until he'd been beaten at his own game on the inside and picked off with shots. Hatton knew what he had to do but wasn't able to execute his gameplan.

That's true, but Hatton didn't have the preperation to deal with a boxer of Mayweather's calibur.

Experience means a lot, and Hatton just didn't have it, while Cotto does.

Cotto can box too, and when he does apply pressure it's intelligent as he comes in at angles and delivers the jab.

Hatton wasn't doing this.

[mr. magoo]

[quote=capfunds]I wouldn't mind it if Cotto fought DLH.


I think most of the fans would certainly have a problem with it. De la hoya is just about all but out of the loop. He hasn't won a fight at welterweight in years, and is 34 years old. His last victory was over Ricardo Mayorga, and has only fought 3 times in three years, losing 2 of them. A win over Oscar will mean little for Cotto, and even less for the sport of boxing. A fight with Mayweather will mean everything.


Honestly, I still think that DLH-PBF could have been a draw, so it's not like DLH is an easy fight.


A close fight, but Mayweather was the clear winner. A draw would not have been a fair outcome.

Personally, I think now is the time for Cotto to go after PBF because I think he's gotten all the preperation that he needs

Agreed.


, but if he fights DLH, I'm not upset about it.


With all due respect, as a boxing fan you should be.


Floyd said that he's retiring anyway, so he probably needs some time to think things over before getting in the ring with Cotto.


If the price is right, his decision will be made up very quickley.

[joito3]

I'd bet on Cotto if he fights Mayweather

[BITCH ASS]

[quote]


I think most of the fans would certainly have a problem with it. De la hoya is just about all but out of the loop. He hasn't won a fight at welterweight in years, and is 34 years old. His last victory was over Ricardo Mayorga, and has only fought 3 times in three years, losing 2 of them. A win over Oscar will mean little for Cotto, and even less for the sport of boxing. A fight with Mayweather will mean everything.



A close fight, but Mayweather was the clear winner. A draw would not have been a fair outcome.



Agreed.



With all due respect, as a boxing fan you should be.



If the price is right, his decision will be made up very quickley.

Maybe Arum feels that Cotto's not a big enough name, YET. Imagine the additional money that a Cotto win over DLH would mean?

And although it seems like I'm using Floyd logic, Floyd needs time to think things over anyway.

Just because Cotto decides to fight DLH first doesn't mean that he won't fight PBF.

I don't see what the problem is.

[digiram]

Cotto and Hatton have other differences as well. Hatton is a much more intense pressure fighter, has quicker hands, and quicker feet.

Cotto is the much more intellegent boxer of course, but Floyd ain't Judah or Malignaggi. Far from them.

Floyd is quicker than both, has better D, and can fight on the inside.

Floyd would get his shots off before Cotto or counter him all night. I see Floyd winning this via TKO or stoppage due to cuts.

I would love to see this fight though, and I think it'll happen. There's so much money to be made, and Money Mayweather loves the chedda.

Might not happen in 08 though, and probably won't happen if Cotto decides to fight DLH as DLH would KO him as well.

[sthomas]

I don't think it was the experience of Hatton, he just didn't have the tools in his bag to deal with Floyd once Floyd dug into his own bag of tools and pulled out the Hatton hammer

[BITCH ASS]

Cotto and Hatton have other differences as well. Hatton is a much more intense pressure fighter, has quicker hands, and quicker feet.

Cotto is the much more intellegent boxer of course, but Floyd ain't Judah or Malignaggi. Far from them.

Floyd is quicker than both, has better D, and can fight on the inside.

Floyd would get his shots off before Cotto or counter him all night. I see Floyd winning this via TKO or stoppage due to cuts.

I would love to see this fight though, and I think it'll happen. There's so much money to be made, and Money Mayweather loves the chedda.

Might not happen in 08 though, and probably won't happen if Cotto decides to fight DLH as DLH would KO him as well.

Floyd ain't quicker than Judah.

[heidegger]

Cotto has a great chance of beating Floyd.
He is a solid boxer with no holes.
Having said that, Floyd wide UD.
- Floyd cant be hit.

[digiram]

Floyd ain't quicker than Judah.

Maybe not for the first 2 rounds :lol: , but Floyd was ready to KTFO Zab in the 10th anyhow. He was stalking him from the 5th round and up, and yes Floyd's punches were hitting Zab before he could even think about countering.

[BITCH ASS]

B Ump

[BITCH ASS]

........

[the_truth]

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?

the fight with DLH is the most marketable and best for cotto, he wants to stay active, mayweather wants to take some time off... cotto has to do whats best for him, hes been taking risk and now its time for him to start seeing that money for his family as he truly deserves it...

[the_truth]

Funny but after all that talk, Cotto is going after De La Hoya. Another one of Floyd's leftovers. If they wanted the bout with Floyd, they would have at least TRIED to make it happen considering its the biggest fight in boxing right now.

This isnt the first time team Cotto has run in the other direction.

you cant make a fight happend if the other fighter wants to take some time off...:patsch cotto has to continue and make a name for himself, and a fight with DLH is the best thing for him... and as for fighting leftovers, i dont believe DLH or judah were leftovers, they both were very competitive against mayweather and were never badly hurt... lets just give you an example of what a leftover is a Fernando Vargas or Ricardo Mayorga when they first fought Trinidad and DLH then fought them after...

[Stezzie]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

He couldn't come in at an angle because have you noticed that PBF doesnt stand still? His ring generalship is great he takes the angle away by moving...

[BITCH ASS]

He couldn't come in at an angle because have you noticed that PBF doesnt stand still? His ring generalship is great he takes the angle away by moving...

If you can't get the angle, you can still get the boxer off balance by throwing a jab.

Hatton wasn't doing this either.

[saul_ir34]

I hope Cotto does go after DLH. THat will make him a superstar like it did to Floyd. Floyd wasnt shit until he fought Oscar. He is the ticket to super stardom. Then once Cottos stock has risen Mayweather might want to risk his first loss or second if you count the Castillo fight. Lets hope this happens

[BITCH ASS]

Where are all of PBF's boys at?

[BITCH ASS]

Where are all of PBF's boys at?

[usc2005]

Ok the only thing that would be different in this fight is the raw POWER that cotto brings to this fight. If you watch cotto its hard to hit him...in the jaw because he hides behind his gloves well and he tuckes his chin. Other than that floyd will have a tea party with cotto. Mainly focusing on the top of the forehead like he did to hatton and all the other pressure fighters he has done. Floyd is smart and i dont think he would ALLOW cotto to go to that body. This will be another clinic put on by floyd. Just TOO much speed and elusivness on mayweathers part.

[Scar]

Truth is, Floyd doesn't give a shit. Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that this won't go the distance either.

[BITCH ASS]

leaven

[eze]

Truth is, Cotto needs Floyd not vice versa. And Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that their fight if it happened would not go the distance.

Corley has Cotto hurt and Cotto gets a hometown stoppage.

[amunz81]

corley also had PBF hurt, so dont start that! and if it wouldnt of gotten stopped corley would of been hurt very badly! he voluntarily went to a knee several times, that says something!!!

[BITCH ASS]

Truth is, Floyd doesn't give a shit. Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that this won't go the distance either.

Because Floyd punches harder than Judah or is on entirely different level than Mosley?

Why?

[MJRJJ23]

To whoever said that Cotto handled quick boxers good i have to disagree in a way. SSM was landing rights all night when he threw it and Zab landed his left the 4 times the idiot threw it. Eventhough Zab got beat to death, I think if he had nearly the intelligence Floyd had he could've beat Cotto IMHO. Cotto is very open to lead punches and thats what Floyd is best at. Nevertheless I'm dying to see this fight. I would say floyd 65>35

[brooklyn1550]

And Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that their fight if it happened would not go the distance.

Corley has Cotto hurt and Cotto gets a hometown stoppage.

You fail to analyze the circumstances when Cotto was hurt and fail to factor in other things regarding this issue.

[G_RapPBF]

Cotto is slower then Hatton, the only thing he has over hatton is a lil bit of size, a lil bit he started off at 140 too, and boxing ability.

Floyd is faster and a better defender. I dont give Cotto much of a chance. He got beat up by Judah in the first couple rounds then barely beat an old ass Shane. i'd take Floyd by a wide decision or stoppage.

[dsholmes1]

hmm...I have never seen him take a beating when he is healthy. You have a little too much faith in Miguel. Floyd would beat Cotto without taking too much punishment.

[trac209]

good point but pbf doesn't want cotto after the fight hatton gave him. and to those who say it was an easy night for floyd pull your head out your ass. if hatton had got thee last 2 rounds i would have givin him the win.

[BITCH ASS]

Cotto is slower then Hatton, the only thing he has over hatton is a lil bit of size, a lil bit he started off at 140 too, and boxing ability.

Floyd is faster and a better defender. I dont give Cotto much of a chance. He got beat up by Judah in the first couple rounds then barely beat an old ass Shane. i'd take Floyd by a wide decision or stoppage.

Man, see that's why people don't credit your opinion.

You obviously didn't read my thread or don't understand that there's MUCH MUCH MUCH more to boxing than size and speed.

This is ESPECIALLY true when you're delivering pressure.

[BITCH ASS]

hmm...I have never seen him take a beating when he is healthy. You have a little too much faith in Miguel. Floyd would beat Cotto without taking too much punishment.

Another guy that doesn't understand boxing.

[igotJUIC3]

you cant make a fight happend if the other fighter wants to take some time off...:patsch cotto has to continue and make a name for himself, and a fight with DLH is the best thing for him... and as for fighting leftovers, i dont believe DLH or judah were leftovers, they both were very competitive against mayweather and were never badly hurt... lets just give you an example of what a leftover is a Fernando Vargas or Ricardo Mayorga when they first fought Trinidad and DLH then fought them after...

Hatton did...and got the fight....

[TIGEREDGE]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

some great points. hatton used to have a lot of variation in his style and was very sharp. I THINK THE EXCESS BOOZING AND JUNK FOOD HAS CAUGHT UP WITH HIM.

[igotJUIC3]

My goodness people underestimating Floyd and boosting the challenger again...:nono

In this fight against Cotto it will be easier for Floyd because Cotto doesn't come forward fast enough and doesnt posess the stamina to endure the punishment and tracking he will have to do with Floyd.

YES...Cotto has skills....but please dont let the little bit of boxing he did against a Mosley who walked in with his head HIGH practicly with a target on his face fool you.

Floyd has everything....but it wont necessarily be his abundance of ability to beat Cotto it will be the MENTAL part...Floyd is just to chameleon like....HE ADAPTS so fast and so well to what fighters do in the ring his preperation is ridiculoous!

My thing is as Smart a grat a BOXEr floyd is....ask yourself whats his weakness?

Now ask yourself whats Cotto's?

[BITCH ASS]

My goodness people underestimating Floyd and boosting the challenger again...:nono

In this fight against Cotto it will be easier for Floyd because Cotto doesn't come forward fast enough and doesnt posess the stamina to endure the punishment and tracking he will have to do with Floyd.

YES...Cotto has skills....but please dont let the little bit of boxing he did against a Mosley who walked in with his head HIGH practicly with a target on his face fool you.

Floyd has everything....but it wont necessarily be his abundance of ability to beat Cotto it will be the MENTAL part...Floyd is just to chameleon like....HE ADAPTS so fast and so well to what fighters do in the ring his preperation is ridiculoous!

My thing is as Smart a grat a BOXEr floyd is....ask yourself whats his weakness?

Now ask yourself whats Cotto's?

You can't just talk out of your ass and not really know what the fuck you're talking about.

Cotto has a jab and it's explosive.

Cotto takes angles.

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand boxing.

Because when you really break it down, boxing is all about the jab, and angles.

You also don't factor in the KIND of competition.

For you to say that Cotto would be easier is.....I can't even think of a word, but it's stupid.

So please, don't just be like, Floyd can adapt, this and that, when you don't even understand what the fuck he's adapting to.

You have to watch both fighters during the fight.

I know you love Floyd, but you have to understand what his opponent is doing and not doing before you can say, "Floyd will adapt.....bla bla bla."

Adapt to what???

[igotJUIC3]

You can't just talk out of your ass and not really know what the fuck you're talking about.

Cotto has a jab and it's explosive.

Cotto takes angles.

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand boxing.

Because when you really break it down, boxing is all about the jab, and angles.

You also don't factor in the KIND of competition.

For you to say that Cotto would be easier is.....I can't even think of a word, but it's stupid.

So please, don't just be like, Floyd can adapt, this and that, when you don't even understand what the fuck he's adapting to.

You have to watch both fighters during the fight.

I know you love Floyd, but you have to understand what his opponent is doing and not doing before you can say, "Floyd will adapt.....bla bla bla."

Adapt to what???

are you serious?

Do you not realize how much this is important to a fighter?

LOL....your funny....his jab is good but Floyd is the best at ADAPTING and taking a fighters strenthgs away.....understand that...or better yet...understand that ADAPTING is very much essential to boxing...i cant believe you said that.

Cotto is SLOW in closing and stands on the outside often.....his defense has more holes then a shredder....Floyd woul be able to dictate this fight very esasily and land precision punches.

What do you mean adapt to what??? Adapt to the FUKKIN FIGHTER and what he does in the ring clown...Floyd knows every fighter will fight different no matter their past so he doesnt gameplan like most do but yet he adapts to what the fighter is doing at the time...he adapts in mid-fight.

You say Cotto cuts off angles...it wont mater in this fight because he closes slow.

[BITCH ASS]

are you serious?

Do you not realize how much this is important to a fighter?

LOL....your funny....his jab is good but Floyd is the best at ADAPTING and taking a fighters strenthgs away.....understand that...or better yet...understand that ADAPTING is very much essential to boxing...i cant believe you said that.

No, I want you to tell me what Floyd is adapting to.

You can't just say, adapt.

Tell me what it is EXACTLY that he's adapting to.

I could tell you that the Patriots are gonna win the superbowl, but all you're gonna do is ask why?

[psychopath]

For those that think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily

Let me be clear about this . . . there's no easy fight and no easy win on this level of competition. This is the kind of fight that one mistake by either fighter can change the results.

[igotJUIC3]

No, I want you to tell me what Floyd is adapting to.

You can't just say, adapt.

Tell me what it is EXACTLY that he's adapting to.

I could tell you that the Patriots are gonna win the superbowl, but all you're gonna do is ask why?

no i would say your right...because they are BETTER in pretty much every aspect of the game.

AGAIN...my friend....he adapts to the FIGHTER....what the fighter DOES in that instance that moment that round that second!

Floyd has stated he doesnt watch film on the fighter because every fight is different which is why you adapt to what happens or what the fighter is doing in the fight....why dont you understand this?

[xviiixvi]

There is also one thing that Cotto and Hatton have in common.......
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[xviiixvi]

I know what is going to happen. Cotto will get knocked out by DeLaHoya and then this will set up a rematch with Floyd at 154 making the first 100 million dollar fight in history.

[brooklyn1550]

There is also one thing that Cotto and Hatton have in common.......
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That was at 140 where Cotto's chin was suffering because he struggled so much to make weight. It's much better at 147. And Cotto has never been knocked out like Hatton.

[xviiixvi]

That was at 140 where Cotto's chin was suffering because he struggled so much to make weight. It's much better at 147. And Cotto has never been knocked out like Hatton.
Remember the chicken dance of 06? (chop chop)

[brooklyn1550]

Remember the chicken dance of 06? (chop chop)

No, I don't. I remember the chicken dance of 05 though.

And like I said, the weight draining had a HUGE impact on Cotto's punch resistance. Watching him at 147 makes it clear he can take a hell of a punch.

Whether or not you actually are able to process this information is another story.

[xviiixvi]

I could have sworn that Zab had him shook and this warranted the "Trinidad" like low blows

[Orishaman]

Funny but after all that talk, Cotto is going after De La Hoya. Another one of Floyd's leftovers. If they wanted the bout with Floyd, they would have at least TRIED to make it happen considering its the biggest fight in boxing right now.

This isnt the first time team Cotto has run in the other direction.

ODLH is no ones left over , the only reason PBF name is better recognize now a day is do to the ODLH fight...so if Cotto wants a huge pay day before he souts for PBF, let it be...PBF wil not fight until 200, so he says, yet he is talkinga bout a rematch against Hatton..that shold tell you a huge amount on how PBF camp is thinking...if they fight Haton for a second time, obviously they are thinking that they will never give a chance to Cotto..why? well they know that Cotto is far more versatle and stronger that Hatton ever was...

So lets go after ODLH, KO him someting that PBF was not able to do..and then we can conforatbly call PBF for a huge fight...itis good business and nothing to do with leftovers ...fool

[mancat]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.

Damn you are a bitter bitch. By the way, you said Mayweather wouldn't beat Hatton easily. You actually said Hatton would murder PBF. Straight bitch.

[victor879]

Why Mayweather Beats Cotto

Mayweather Advantages

1) Floyd has more amateur experience than Cotto. (Over 200 amateur fights)

2) Floyd has more championship experience than Cotto. (18-0, 9 KOs)

3) Floyd has more hand speed than Cotto.

4) Floyd has more foot speed than Cotto.

5) Floyd has a 5" reach advantage on Cotto.

6) Floyd is 1" taller than Cotto. (Not much just pointing it out)

7) Floyd has a higher plus/minus rating than Cotto. Floyd is #1 in the sport of boxing in this rating. (Differential of Connect % Landed vs Landed Against)

8 - Floyd is a more accurate puncher than Cotto.

9) Floyd is a defensive genius, far superior to Cotto.

10) Floyd has the superior ring generalship, footwork, and tactical skills.

11) Floyd has the tested/proven chin. Cotto has been buzzed many times to say the least.

12) Floyd would have the advantage in stamina.

13) Floyd has the more experienced corner. (Roger Mayweather - Former World Champion)

Cotto Advantages

1) Cotto is stronger than Mayweather.

2) Cotto has great heart and recovery skills. (We don't know with Floyd as he's never been hurt like Cotto)

3) Cotto has a stiffer, more punishing jab.

4) Cotto is 3-4 years younger than Floyd.

Why I think Floyd wins a UD or stops Cotto late.



I don't mind when you guys say you would pick Cotto to win... but at least admit when you're doing it that he would certainly be an underdog pick.... easily. Some of you guys act like he would have all these huge advantages over Floyd going into the fight and Cotto beating him is some kind of certainty. Mayweather has so many advantages it is ridiculous... and Cotto is not much larger than Ricky Hatton. Sorry to burst your bubble. Yea, Cotto has a shot because after all, it is a fight... but look at the list I made and go from there.

Cotto doesn't get closer than 2:1 odds against Mayweather just like Hatton. I hope it does so I can make some more money though... 50%+ winnings on Mayweather bets are just robbery.

When Floyd gets old in the ring, he'll lose.

[victor879]

you forgot one thing one punch can change the fight and pbf is one punch away from being ko'd you peps act like the man/ i met chump is god or something he is not perfect look at ali he got knock out by foreman..so stop acting like pbf is god. get off his D#%K......M.R.-New York !!!!

:huh:huh:huh:huh:huh

I think that just ruined any credibility you might have had about your boxing knowledge.

[rekcutnevets]

Ouch, that hurt. I didn't know I could hit so hard.

[Nwil]

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

that's what dlh thought when he brought in mosley. here's a simple fact: there is no preparation for mayweather. why? because there isn't a boxer on the planet in his class.

understand this: everytime mayweather fights, everyone talks about how it's the most challenging fight of his career, and everything the other dude offers, then floyd embarasses them (with the exception of fighting castillo injured). floyd beats cotto with speed, defense and raw skill.

on another note, he beats williams by beating the hell out of him.

[Scar]

It definitely won't be easy, I knew both DLH/Hatton fights won't be easy either but Mayweather will eventually do it. NOT easily though.

[DAGOBOY]

Cotto and Hatton have other differences as well. Hatton is a much more intense pressure fighter, has quicker hands, and quicker feet.

Cotto is the much more intellegent boxer of course, but Floyd ain't Judah or Malignaggi. Far from them.

Floyd is quicker than both, has better D, and can fight on the inside.

Floyd would get his shots off before Cotto or counter him all night. I see Floyd winning this via TKO or stoppage due to cuts.

I would love to see this fight though, and I think it'll happen. There's so much money to be made, and Money Mayweather loves the chedda.

Might not happen in 08 though, and probably won't happen if Cotto decides to fight DLH as DLH would KO him as well.

i have to agree 100% on this statement.

[Symphenyceo]

YO FORGOT ANOTHER ADVANTAGE THAT COTTO HAS OVER MAYWEATHER.... COTTO IS NOT AFRAID OF MAYWEATHER, MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID OF COTTO


did pbf tell you that??

[BigReg]

YO FORGOT ANOTHER ADVANTAGE THAT COTTO HAS OVER MAYWEATHER.... COTTO IS NOT AFRAID OF MAYWEATHER, MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID OF COTTO

The problem with this advantage is that you just made it up, and have no real basis for this argument.

[knockout]

I agree if Mayweather is gonna win this one he will have to go through hell much worser then Hatton.

[renyo]

cotto vs mayweather will equal jones vs tarver all you same clowns probably had jones posters hanging in your bedroom he gets knocked out so youswitch to the new aerobics instructor gayrunner get real p4p is a joke its all hypothesis you cant just say mayweather is better and expect people to believe it there is always someone out there who has your number some guys like mayweather just wont look for the challenge maybe he believes after the first loss everyone will feel he was exposed

[jecxbox]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now.

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.



Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.


exellent post

[jecxbox]

Some of you people make me laugh with the notion of Floyd knocking Cotto out. It is really comical to tell you the truth.

1st off Hatton 5'6 very small with a very small reach was attempting to beat Floyd by completely out muscling Floyd with his brute power. Didn't work. Why? because it is a wreckless style one where Saftey is the last thing on your mind.

There isn't 1 fight that Cotto has fought like that in his entire career. Maybe some of you shouldn't talk expecially if you haven't seen much of Cotto's career. I bet some of you are making assumptions off Cotto's 3 last fights, pretty funny. I'd go just as far enough to say that Cotto has just as much ring smarts as Floyd Mayweather with the obvious exception of raw athletic ability.

[PATSYS]

Isn't Cotto just about the same size as Hatton?

[jecxbox]

Cotto has bigger dimensions and is a little bit taller

[Alo2006]

I hate to say it, but Floyd is a very good fighter.

I wouldn't mind it if Cotto fought DLH.

Honestly, I still think that DLH-PBF could have been a draw, so it's not like DLH is an easy fight.

Personally, I think now is the time for Cotto to go after PBF because I think he's gotten all the preperation that he needs, but if he fights DLH, I'm not upset about it.

Floyd said that he's retiring anyway, so he probably needs some time to think things over before getting in the ring with Cotto.


Floyd thinking about retiring because of his body and hands breaking down. NOt because of Cotto, smack yourself! I would love to see those to fight. I pick Floyd by UD, possible late TKO. The game plan will be great for Cotto, better believe.

[jecxbox]

It doesn't matter if you fight squared up with a lack of defense it doesn't matter if you're 6 feet tall. Perfect Example = Floyd vs Corrales. Corrales fought as squared up as you possibly could fight and he was 6 feet tall, and he still got peppered by Floyd. The problem is when a 6 foot guy has a long reach and fights on a fucking angle (god forbid southpaw paul williams).

[sugarngold]

Why would anyone not want to fight Oscar De La Hoya? It only means the biggest payday of a fighter's career. Mayweather says he's retired - so go after the biggest cash cow out there - then after a victory - you have the world stage to call out Mayweather.

But - no - I don't think Cotto can beat Mayeather.

[sugarngold]

It doesn't matter if you fight squared up with a lack of defense it doesn't matter if you're 6 feet tall. Perfect Example = Floyd vs Corrales. Corrales fought as squared up as you possibly could fight and he was 6 feet tall, and he still got peppered by Floyd. The problem is when a 6 foot guy has a long reach and fights on a fucking angle (god forbid southpaw paul williams).

Paul Williams probably has the best chance to offset Mayweather out of everyone in the division. Long, rangy fighters always give the pure boxer/punchers trouble.

[cardstars]

Well, apparently Cotto is campaigning for a fight with Oscar De la hoya, instead of Mayweather, so what does that tell you?

For fucks sake people, Floyd said he is taking time off of the sport! And if he was to call out Floyd then everyone would accuse the guy of calling him out when Floyd obviously isn't going to take any fights. Just can't win....:-(

[Alo2006]

YO FORGOT ANOTHER ADVANTAGE THAT COTTO HAS OVER MAYWEATHER.... COTTO IS NOT AFRAID OF MAYWEATHER, MAYWEATHER IS AFRAID OF COTTO

Nice opinion :roll:

[cardstars]

Why would anyone not want to fight Oscar De La Hoya? It only means the biggest payday of a fighter's career. Mayweather says he's retired - so go after the biggest cash cow out there - then after a victory - you have the world stage to call out Mayweather.

But - no - I don't think Cotto can beat Mayeather.

:good Agree 100%. Although im still undecided on who wins this fight,,,,its much closer than people realize imo

[rreed23]

I'm a Hatton fan, probably as far drom a PBF nuthugger as you can get. That being said, at this point, Floyd doesn't need to fight Cotto to prove anything. It's pretty clear that he is p4p #1 and Cotto would be another night of easy work for Floyd. Cotto was lucky to pull out a win over Judah and wouldn't have had it not been for the fouls

[brooklyn1550]

Cotto was lucky to pull out a win over Judah and wouldn't have had it not been for the fouls

That wasn't luck

[Jose FM]

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. :patsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

:patsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.
Great Post, Cotto would beat Floyd.