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koko of phil
07-03-2007, 11:02 AM
I've seen a lot of 12th round match decisions which are obviously opposite from what you expect the result would end. Probably because some have influence to protect their fighter to look good and go on or record unscathed.
IMO for me it's JT. I doubted the Hopkins and Spinks decisions.
Who else do you know?
Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 11:03 AM
I've seen a lot of 12th round match decisions which are obviously opposite from what you expect the result would end. Probably because some have influence to protect their fighter to look good and go on or record unscathed.
IMO for me it's JT. I doubted the Hopkins and Spinks decisions.
Who else do you know?
Sven Ottke
Muhammad Ali
Guru_Too_You
07-03-2007, 11:06 AM
Sugar Ray Leonard
Hearns II, Hagler
koko of phil
07-03-2007, 11:37 AM
What about Mayweather?
Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 11:40 AM
What about Mayweather?
Well he's had one controversial decision go his way and the other is an alleged controversial decision.
That's a long way from guys like Ottke, J.C Chavez, Ali, etc..
unitas
07-03-2007, 01:06 PM
ottke comes to mind for sure.
Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 01:09 PM
De La Hoya anyone? I figured he would be the first one mentioned. Also Chavez.
DLH had 3 controversial fights go his way but 2 went against him.
Ali and Chavez had none go against them. Neither did Sven.
Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 01:20 PM
Chavez's draw with Whitaker and stoppage of an opponent with two seconds left in a fight the opponent would've won is not controversial?
I think you misunderstood what I said.
De La Hoya had 3 controversial decisions go his way, but 2 (Tito, Mosley II) went AGAINST him.
Chavez had a few controversies or debatable decisions go his way (LaPorte, Whitaker, Taylor I, Randall I, Gonzalez), but none went AGAINST him.
So I would pick someone like Chavez or Ottke on an "untouchable list" before De La Hoya since they always got the benefit of the doubt, rather than De La Hoya who got it the majority of the time, but not always.
ibragimovfan
07-03-2007, 01:23 PM
how about almost any of dong king's guys
brooklyn1550
07-03-2007, 01:28 PM
Markus Beyer
Sven Ottke
Ottke, without doubt. he got about half-a-dozen decisions, and did nothing that was impressive that could create doubt - I mean like have the power to shake an opponent or handspeend to be flash, so he could just kinda nick rounds.
I always wanted Calzaghe to fight him as he woulda stopped him.
The Kurgan
07-03-2007, 01:37 PM
Ottke, not least because according to German rules it was illegal to hit him.
Napoleon
07-03-2007, 02:45 PM
DLH had 3 controversial fights go his way but 2 went against him.
Ali and Chavez had none go against them. Neither did Sven.
Sturm, Sweet Pea, Quartey.
TroubleLurks
07-03-2007, 02:49 PM
Andre Dirrell= untouchable boxer.
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Tom_Tocca
07-03-2007, 02:54 PM
Ottke's controversial fights were against Brewer (1st fight),Reid (that one over the top) and to some extend Larsen...
One thing I want to point out: Ottke beat Glen Johnson without a doubt - no controversy in here!
IntentionalButt
07-03-2007, 03:02 PM
Markus Beyer
if he were really that protected they'd have counted to eight hundred when kessler used him as an oil drill. :yep
SevenSamurai
07-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Ottke, not least because according to German rules it was illegal to hit him.
That happened in the Robin reid fight:good .
I think that Otke deserves to be on this list because a controversial decision never went against him, the same with Ali. Apart from those two I not know of any other two who never had a controversial decision go against them, having benefited from so many themselves.
ThePlugInBabies
07-03-2007, 03:03 PM
Ottke, not least because according to German rules it was illegal to hit him.
:rofl :rofl i remember when robin reid got warned for hitting ottke, that fight was a fucking joke. ottke got owned but still got the nod from the judges.
Thread Stealer
07-03-2007, 03:53 PM
Sturm, Sweet Pea, Quartey.
Yeah, those are the 3 that went Oscar's way. 2 went against him.
No controversies went against guys like JCC, Ottke, or Ali, so they are more befitting of the "untouchable" tag than Oscar.
Mohak
07-03-2007, 06:22 PM
Ottke, not least because according to German rules it was illegal to hit him.
:lol:
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