I thought it was a shame...

[Manassa]

... That Ricky Hatton had to make sure to point out to everyone that his career wasn't over because of the recent loss. What I'd give for the days when a loss was seen as a learning curve and not the apocalypse.

[SteveO]

... That Ricky Hatton had to make sure to point out to everyone that his career wasn't over because of the recent loss. What I'd give for the days when a loss was seen as a learning curve and not the apocalypse.

Yeah the old timers fought all the time and most lost from time to time.

That's what I like about a guy like Jameel McCline. If he wins, great. If he doesn't, oh well. He'll be back.

[Dostoevsky]

I know, it's so fucking ridiculous.
He's only 29 and people are saying he should retire :lol:

[Langford]

boxing is like that these days, unfortunately. Lose one time and people will fly off your bandwagon and denounce you a bum.

[MagnificentMatt]

Yeah, i think if Hatton studies some of the videos of himself when he was younger (he didnt even seem to waste as much energy, was much more patient, and even worked behind a jab) he would be in great shape... He is still a top 5 in
Welterweight and if he goes down to Junior Welter....Well lets just say im not quite on the Witter wagon yet..

[joe33]

Yeah it pisses me of some of the tits on the main board seem to think hes finished or a "bum" now,this coming from what most of us are armchair fans really annoys me,like they all knlow better,fucking pathetic.

[Dempsey1238]

Its only a lost. No harm done. Hatton will be back.

[zippy]

boxing is like that these days, unfortunately. Lose one time and people will fly off your bandwagon and denounce you a bum.


I think "exposed" is the popular term. :roll: I learned something about the general forum Saturday. Many there aren't very bright.

[JohnThomas1]

Totally agree. As a loss it was no biggie, seemingly bugger all physical damage done. A loss like this was no drama whatsoever a handful of decades ago.

[ThePlugInBabies]

Yeah, i think if Hatton studies some of the videos of himself when he was younger (he didnt even seem to waste as much energy, was much more patient, and even worked behind a jab) he would be in great shape... He is still a top 5 in
Welterweight and if he goes down to Junior Welter....Well lets just say im not quite on the Witter wagon yet..

no way is he a top 5 WW. i'd pick mayweather (obviously), mosley, cotto, cintron, williams and margo all to beat him. maybe even the likes of berto. hatton really doesn't have much business fighting at 147.

[TBooze]

I know, it's so fucking ridiculous.
He's only 29 and people are saying he should retire :lol:

He is in the toughest sport in the world, he is a millioniare many times over, for the moment he has his health, and has shown to be better than everyone but the absolute finest fighter on the planet, what is the point in continuing?

Hatton can go out like a Spinks, Lewis or Hagler; at or near his best, he does not need to fight anymore. If he wanted to stay in the sport, with his personality he could become the face of British boxing for the media or could continue as a trainer.

[JohnThomas1]

He is in the toughest sport in the world, he is a millioniare many times over, for the moment he has his health, and has shown to be better than everyone but the absolute finest fighter on the planet, what is the point in continuing?

Hatton can go out like a Spinks, Lewis or Hagler; at or near his best, he does not need to fight anymore. If he wanted to stay in the sport, with his personality he could become the face of British boxing for the media or could continue as a trainer.

Obviously it is up to him. Of course. Kudo's either way.

[ThePlugInBabies]

He is in the toughest sport in the world, he is a millioniare many times over, for the moment he has his health, and has shown to be better than everyone but the absolute finest fighter on the planet, what is the point in continuing?

Hatton can go out like a Spinks, Lewis or Hagler; at or near his best, he does not need to fight anymore. If he wanted to stay in the sport, with his personality he could become the face of British boxing for the media or could continue as a trainer.

both he and calzaghe really need a couple more wins to truely cement their places in history and ensure their legacy.

hatton has tszyu, castillo, maussa and collazo and could do with adding witter and malignaggi.

calzaghe has kessler, eubank, lacy and reid and could do with adding hopkins and woods/dawson.

if both decided to retire now i'd feel that both had underachieved.

[TBooze]

both he and calzaghe really need a couple more wins to truely cement their places in history and ensure their legacy.

hatton has tszyu, castillo, maussa and collazo and could do with adding witter and malignaggi.

calzaghe has kessler, eubank, lacy and reid and could do with adding hopkins and woods/dawson.

if both decided to retire now i'd feel that both had underachieved.

But both would have their millions and the health to comfort themselves that from that blow.;)

[ThePlugInBabies]

But both would have their millions and the health to comfort themselves that from that blow.;)

joe's rarely been hit during his career :tong

[JohnThomas1]

But both would have their millions and the health to comfort themselves that from that blow.;)

Maybe they have a burning desire to (attempt) etch their name more richly in the history books too. Not everyone's thinking i'll just fight till i'm rich then retire, or lose one then call it stumps with my big money bags. You take a surprising stance for one who refuses to rate fighters on the pinnacle level who haven't come back and proven themselves after a loss. Imagine SRL retiring after Duran, Holyfield after Bowe etc.

[TBooze]

Maybe they have a burning desire to (attempt) etch their name more richly in the history books too. Not everyone's thinking i'll just fight till i'm rich then retire, or lose one then call it stumps with my big money bags. You take a surprising stance for one who refuses to rate fighters on the pinnacle level who haven't come back and proven themselves after a loss. Imagine SRL retiring after Duran, Holyfield after Bowe etc.

My point is, to misquote the Black Cloud, that it is a lot harder to get out of bed when it is a four poster bed in a Million Pound Mansion than when you were in your little studio.

Also what is the point of being in the history books if you cannot read them in later life because of ill health brought on by boxing for too long?

IMO it is best to retire five fights too early than one too late.

But like you suggested earlier it is not our decision to make, and neither Joe or Ricky are stupid, I think whatever they do, it will be the right decision, and I will continue to support them. From what I have picked up both are class acts.

[JohnThomas1]

My point is, to misquote the Black Cloud, that it is a lot harder to get out of bed when it is a four poster bed in a Million Pound Mansion than when you were in your little studio.


Hearns, Leonard, Hagler, Holmes, Ali and hundreds of others all got up in the morning quite well, even after amassing fame and fortune. This is what great ones do. Floyd Mayweather would be another pertinent example.

Also what is the point of being in the history books if you cannot read them in later life because of ill health brought on by boxing for too long?

But where does one draw the line? How many fights is too many? Some go thru very long careers with heavy losses and aren't affected, others who have been in the game shorter and taken far less might be more affected.

IMO it is best to retire five fights too early than one too late.

That's talking worst case sceario, and as i imply - how on earth could one know? Hatton might be retiring 15 fights too soon.

But like you suggested earlier it is not our decision to make, and neither Joe or Ricky are stupid, I think whatever they do, it will be the right decision, and I will continue to support them. From what I have picked up both are class acts.

Totally agree mate. What nags me is when a fighter OBVIOUSLY needs to retire, like an Ali or Meldrick Taylor. It's rather sad. Like an addiction in some cases.