So what was this special CHECK HOOK that Floyd KOed Hatton with ?

[Peterp]

Beautiful punch. Great timing, accuracy and sufficient power. Looked like a normal counter left hook to me. What did Floyd mean with the 'Check Hook' thing ?

[average_joe]

It's just a type of hook. He didn't do the full windup. It looked like he just used his arms in it. He also moved back and to the left, and this probably gave it the power that the usual rotation gives.

[S0uthPa111]

LOL
'check left hook' is the most basic move, nothing special, this was one of the first things taught to me as an amateur... its basically a short left hook that acts as a defensive shot to measure out your opponents distance or to hit him with when hes in fighting thus the term 'CHECK' you check out where he is... cause on the inside you cant see SH1T

[Relentless]

it was a counter left hook.

hatton lunged in floyd stepped slightly to the side and threw a counter left hook.

[BLaZeD]

Simple but beautiful piece of boxing displayed by mayweather

[jones1]

i thought a check hook is when you use an advancing opponent's aggressiveness against himself by phasing out and putting yourself in good position to throw the hook, then throw it? eh idk i asked my trainer about it today and thats what he told me :think

[rekcutnevets]

jones1, you are correct. You normally don't have the same effect on your opponent as Mayweather did. It will normally allow you to escape a certain position, or take another angle.

[rodney]

Yes -- its a counter left hook.
With your weight on your front foot, arms close to your body, you shift your weight and lean back as your opponent steps in.
This punch is intended to be short and involves a change of weight, pulling back to achieve maximum power.
The opponent rushing in often doesnt see this punch which maximizes its effectiveness.
Works well when countering a lazy right hand.
Mayweathers' check hook wasnt really that short, but it worked well because Hatton didnt see it.

[gregsid]

No, you all are wrong. Yes the check hook occurred during a counter, but thats not what a "check hook" is.
A check hook is a basic move you normally learn in amateurs. It's a mix of a hook and an uppercut. It is thrown at a weird angle so it is not considered a uppercut. Your arm kinda looks like a check mark when you throw it, which is why it's called a check hook.
Mayweather threw the check hook as a counter. He hit him with it in both knockdowns.

*EDIT*
Also forgot to mention. The punch is thrown as you steping back, this way you pull your opponent in and use his momentum against him. Which is why it was so effective against Hatton, because Hatton tends to lunge when he throws hooks. If you watch the fight again you will see it if you look closely. You have to be very fast in order to pull it off right.

[Relentless]

No, you all are wrong. Yes the check hook occurred during a counter, but thats not what a "check hook" is.
A check hook is a basic move you normally learn in amateurs. It's a mix of a hook and an uppercut. It is thrown at a weird angle so it is not considered a uppercut. Your arm kinda looks like a check mark when you throw it, which is why it's called a check hook.
Mayweather threw the check hook as a counter. He hit him with it in both knockdowns.

*EDIT*
Also forgot to mention. The punch is thrown as you steping back, this way you pull your opponent in and use his momentum against him. Which is why it was so effective against Hatton, because Hatton tends to lunge when he throws hooks. If you watch the fight again you will see it if you look closely. You have to be very fast in order to pull it off right.

floyds punch didn't look like a a mix between hook and uppercut, it looked like a basic left hook.

[gregsid]

floyds punch didn't look like a a mix between hook and uppercut, it looked like a basic left hook.
Tell that to Emanuel Stewart and Floyd. It takes a trained eye. Also the angle the camera shows it from might make it look like a regular hook.

[Relentless]

i watched many replays, and watched the fight 4 or 5 times now, all it was, was a counter hook.

[gregsid]

i watched many replays, and watched the fight 4 or 5 times now, all it was, was a counter hook.
Again, all I gave was the definition of what a counter hook really is.

It was Emanuel Stewart and Mayweather that said it was a check hook that he thrown. And I'm very sure they know more about boxing than you do, so I'm guna go with what they said.
Also, it was a counter that he threw. But it was a check hook thrown as a counter. There are many different kinds of counters. Uppercut counters, cross counters, check hook counters, ect.

[Relentless]

'check hook' is just a gimmick, all it was, was a counter left hook

[gregsid]

'check hook' is just a gimmick, all it was, was a counter left hook
Not true. It's a legit punch you learn in the amateurs.
Obviously you don't know much.

[Relentless]

Not true. It's a legit punch you learn in the amateurs.
Obviously you don't know much.

probably dont, since the first time i heard this was when mayweather used it, oh well atleast i dont go pretending to bea know it all.

[gregsid]

probably dont, since the first time i heard this was when mayweather used it, oh well atleast i dont go pretending to bea know it all.
Just because it is the first time you never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It was a punch I had heard of and was taught when I was training.
I'm not saying "I know it all", its just in this case you are wrong and you have to stop being a baby about it. Just because you have 10,000 posts on a boxing forum doesn't make you an expert in boxing. It just means you spend more time in front of a computer than in a boxing gym.

[Relentless]

Just because it is the first time you never heard of it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist. It was a punch I had heard of and was taught when I was training.
I'm not saying "I know it all", its just in this case you are wrong and you have to stop being a baby about it. Just because you have 10,000 posts on a boxing forum doesn't make you an expert in boxing. It just means you spend more time in front of a computer than in a boxing gym.

me being a baby about it?

you are the one whining and throwing little insults such as 'you dont know much', i said fine, you're probably right i dont know much.


and listen boy, when you are are in college (which i dont think you are/were/ever will be in) you too would be finding ways to pass time.

[gregsid]

me being a baby about it?

you are the one whining and throwing little insults such as 'you dont know much', i said fine, you're probably right i dont know much.


and listen boy, when you are are in college (which i dont think you are/were/ever will be in) you too would be finding ways to pass time.
I currently in my 3rd year of college and I'm going Pre-Medical.
So yeahh.....

[Relentless]

I currently in my 3rd year of college and I'm going Pre-Medical.
So yeahh.....

wow, how do you balance out being a student, a super coach and coming on esb?

[gregsid]

wow, how do you balance out being a student, a super coach and coming on esb?
Lol, first off I'm an average student in school. Second off I never said I was a super coach, I think I'm a good coach and so do my students. I try to balance school and boxing. Which isn't hard, if its all I do.
Third of all, if you look at my info it says I post an average of 1 post a day (aside from today) since I joined esb, that doesn't take more than 2 minutes.

[Coach Bob]

Hey guys. What you're forgetting is that every gym and every coach uses different terminology to describe the same thing. What one coach calls a check hook, another coach might call a counter hook. What one coach calls bob & weave, another might call rolling under... It doesn't matter and it's not worth arguing about because you might actually agree with each other if you could SEE what the other guy was trying to say.

Anyway, what my gym has always called a check hook is when you turn your body 90* toward your right at the same time throwing a left hook. If you throw it as your opponent advances or over his cross, you'll end up on his side instead of in front of him.

Later,

Bob

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[jones1]

No, you all are wrong. Yes the check hook occurred during a counter, but thats not what a "check hook" is.
A check hook is a basic move you normally learn in amateurs. It's a mix of a hook and an uppercut. It is thrown at a weird angle so it is not considered a uppercut. Your arm kinda looks like a check mark when you throw it, which is why it's called a check hook.
Mayweather threw the check hook as a counter. He hit him with it in both knockdowns.

*EDIT*
Also forgot to mention. The punch is thrown as you steping back, this way you pull your opponent in and use his momentum against him. Which is why it was so effective against Hatton, because Hatton tends to lunge when he throws hooks. If you watch the fight again you will see it if you look closely. You have to be very fast in order to pull it off right.

nah thats called a shovel hook brother. and you dont throw shovel hooks to the head ever.

[ralphc]

No, you all are wrong. Yes the check hook occurred during a counter, but thats not what a "check hook" is.
A check hook is a basic move you normally learn in amateurs. It's a mix of a hook and an uppercut. It is thrown at a weird angle so it is not considered a uppercut. Your arm kinda looks like a check mark when you throw it, which is why it's called a check hook.
Mayweather threw the check hook as a counter. He hit him with it in both knockdowns.

*EDIT*
Also forgot to mention. The punch is thrown as you steping back, this way you pull your opponent in and use his momentum against him. Which is why it was so effective against Hatton, because Hatton tends to lunge when he throws hooks. If you watch the fight again you will see it if you look closely. You have to be very fast in order to pull it off right.


Some opponents are more susceptible to the check hook than others. Rick Hatton and his lunging style happens to be one of them. I often thought that John Ruiz could have been knocked out by a check hook. Sadly, none of his opponents ever tried to do it. Come to think of it, Joe Calzaghe likes to throw the check hook. Maybe he should call out John Ruiz? Ruiz seems to enjoy getting beat by middleweights.

[gregsid]

The only check hook thrown in the fight was the check hook counter in the very first knockdown.

[ralphc]

The only check hook thrown in the fight was the check hook counter in the very first knockdown.


Do you think Chris Byrd could have hit Wladimir Klitschko with the check hook if he had made the effort?

[gregsid]

Do you think Chris Byrd could have hit Wladimir Klitschko with the check hook if he had made the effort?

I don't like watching Heavy Weight fights anymore.

[Doomas]

The only check hook thrown in the fight was the check hook counter in the very first knockdown.
Realy ? I saw more than one "check" hooks thrown by Floyd in that fight, theres was similar hook I think round before and Floyd missed with it.

[bigeddie27]

I use a check hook all the time against my girlfriend.

[ralphc]

The only check hook thrown in the fight was the check hook counter in the very first knockdown.

Common on now, don't be cynical! There are some good heavyweight prospects who will soon be making a lot of noise. As to whether they will be making check hooks is another matter.

[Little_Mac]

I was only taught shovel hooks.

[LoBlow]

A hook by any other name is still a "hook"

[BladeJrs]

I use a check hook all the time against my girlfriend.

same here, I always use a check hook against your girlfriend.


:nut

[twenty1]

Check hook....yea alot of you seem to think you could do the same dont forget it hit hatton and hatton flew into the ring post then on his ass....if hatton didnt fly into the ring post he wouldnt have been dropped

[errsta]

Why have we stopped discussing this punch? Was it just a fad?

[murphyx500]

It'a because it checks the other guys chin.

[BoxingFanNo1]

I use a check hook all the time against my girlfriend.

Has she ever hit her head on the bedpost from the momentum?