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unitas
07-03-2007, 12:44 PM
I mean why did he take this fight NOW!!

he got hammered in his last fight, taking a bad beating. and he got a bad eye injury for his troubles.
AND he is coming of a year long layoff!!!

to me, a prizefighter who really wants to deliver his best performance would not fight for a title after all this without a tuneup.

lots of other fighter (especially in europe) turn down such fights unless they are properly prepared.........the smart thing to do.

to me, this looks like brewster is just going for the quick buck.

ibragimovfan
07-03-2007, 12:59 PM
he prolly just wanted a big pay day maybe he lost his hunger who knows. after buster douglas beat mike tyson he became a fat piece of crap

Tencount85
07-03-2007, 01:23 PM
Biggest buck. He was in no position to negotiate after his last fight and injury. From what I remember I think Wlad was trying to fight him after he lost but Brewster thought there was no incentive in giving him a rematch. No the tables are turned and whatever Brew makes he will be wasting it on his hospital bill most likely.

Motor City Sam
07-03-2007, 01:26 PM
Either he is just looking for a big pay or he is that confident he can beat Wlad without a tune up. I think if it's the latter he is mistaken, but I give him credit for trying.

Motor City Sam
07-03-2007, 01:30 PM
he prolly just wanted a big pay day maybe he lost his hunger who knows. after buster douglas beat mike tyson he became a fat piece of crap

I wouldn't compare Douglas with Brewster; that's an insult to Brewster. Douglas caught lightening in a bottle one night and didn't even bother to train for his first defense. He just was happy with the payday. Brewster on the other hand, at least stayed in shape and defended his title three times before losing it.

brooklyn1550
07-03-2007, 01:34 PM
Yes, he's a true fighter who thinks he can knock him out again. I expect him to leave it all in the ring.

Tencount85
07-03-2007, 01:47 PM
Being a Wlad fan, and expecting him to win easy, I am glad this fight is happening. Even if the miraculous happens and Brewster wins (why not, it's happened before) I will stil be glad the fight went down because this is a fight the heavyeight division needed.

Grabonator
07-03-2007, 02:00 PM
Brewster comes to win, no doubt about that!! Hes no Ray Austin!

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 02:03 PM
I'm sure he'll try, but I doubt this fight will be good to him. No tuneup, long layoff, possibly career ending eye injury - and even weirder, not a single peep out of him since his loss to Sergei. There's one train of thought that says he could have been training in secret all of this time getting ready, but the other is that this is the best fight that he could get and he took it for the money and maybe the thought that he could knock Klitschko out with one punch. I think that he'll get beaten and it will be pretty bad.

1-Ton
07-03-2007, 02:07 PM
Brewster comes to win, no doubt about that!! Hes no Ray Austin!

Right. Brewster also had a year+ layoff before their last meeting, so the notion that he could have some ring rust is a lousy argument, too. Nevertheless, IF Wlad wins, he will be given little credit. Rather, everyone will point to how supposedly "shot" Brewster is.

unitas
07-03-2007, 02:10 PM
Right. Brewster also had a year+ layoff before their last meeting, so the notion that he could have some ring rust is a lousy argument, too. Nevertheless, IF Wlad wins, he will be given little credit. Rather, everyone will point to how supposedly "shot" Brewster is.

did he also come off a bad beating and suffer in eye injury??? how is that for a lousy argument:lol:

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 02:12 PM
Right. Brewster also had a year+ layoff before their last meeting, so the notion that he could have some ring rust is a lousy argument, too. Nevertheless, IF Wlad wins, he will be given little credit. Rather, everyone will point to how supposedly "shot" Brewster is.

And Brewster looked like total shit in that fight, too.

Grabonator
07-03-2007, 03:02 PM
And Brewster looked like total shit in that fight, too.

No he didnt.

ibragimovfan
07-03-2007, 03:13 PM
i really wasnt trying to compare the two as fighters i have much more respect for brewster than douglas. i was just using that as an example that sometimes people lose the hunger after they win for whatever reason

Motor City Sam
07-03-2007, 03:17 PM
i really wasnt trying to compare the two as fighters i have much more respect for brewster than douglas. i was just using that as an example that sometimes people lose the hunger after they win for whatever reason

Understood. :good

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 03:35 PM
No he didnt.

Brewster looked terrible. He was a human punching bag for a majority of the fight.

Grabonator
07-03-2007, 03:40 PM
Brewster looked terrible. He was a human punching bag for a majority of the fight.

...just like every of Wlads opponents.

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 03:44 PM
...just like every of Wlads opponents.

So how didn't he look like total shit, cowering with his hands up getting beaten on for most of the fight? He looked awful, and then he followed it up with an awful performance with Kali Meehan, too.

1-Ton
07-03-2007, 03:45 PM
did he also come off a bad beating and suffer in eye injury??? how is that for a lousy argument:lol:

I'm no doctor, but I'd say he's had sufficient time to recover. A tune-up fight would probably make sense, but the point was he was off for a similar amount of time before the last Wlad fight and won. So arguing that he should have had a tune-up before this fight doesn't hold much water, IMO.

1-Ton
07-03-2007, 03:48 PM
So how didn't he look like total shit, cowering with his hands up getting beaten on for most of the fight? He looked awful, and then he followed it up with an awful performance with Kali Meehan, too.

Thats just how Brewster fights. Brewster is not going to outbox anybody at this level, lets be honest. Brewster is a power fighter who has historically taken alot of punishment, even in victory.

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 03:51 PM
Thats just how Brewster fights. Brewster is not going to outbox anybody at this level, lets be honest. Brewster is a power fighter who has historically taken alot of punishment, even in victory.

It may be his style, but it doesn't make his performances good. He was nearly crushed in his first fight and he's going to get crushed in this one. No offense to Brewster, I think he's a great guy, but I never bet on a guy whose MO is to take a beating in an effort to win a fight with a knockout.

1-Ton
07-03-2007, 03:55 PM
It may be his style, but it doesn't make his performances good. He was nearly crushed in his first fight and he's going to get crushed in this one. No offense to Brewster, I think he's a great guy, but I never bet on a guy whose MO is to take a beating in an effort to win a fight with a knockout.

I, too, would find it hard to put my money on Brew. But I would bet that the fight was going to be good, because of his style. Remember the Krasniqi fight?

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 03:59 PM
I, too, would find it hard to put my money on Brew. But I would bet that the fight was going to be good, because of his style. Remember the Krasniqi fight?

Fantastic life and death fight, yeah.

My thoughts on this topic, though, are that it's a complete unknown whether or not Brewster is okay, but I don't think the signs are good. He could have suffered from some partial, permanent blindness from his injury. We can't say yes or no, though, because he hasn't said anything about it. I certainly hope he's not just doing this just for a payday, but he hasn't done anything to help me out.

Guru_Too_You
07-03-2007, 04:01 PM
...just like every of Wlads opponents.

Enter the Corrie Sanders reference.

Irish Steel
07-03-2007, 04:29 PM
It may be his style, but it doesn't make his performances good. He was nearly crushed in his first fight and he's going to get crushed in this one. No offense to Brewster, I think he's a great guy, but I never bet on a guy whose MO is to take a beating in an effort to win a fight with a knockout.


Usually styles like that make for great fights, IMO. Like Hatton for example. (KO4 Castillo) And other brawlers like mickey ward (i forgot who it was, but he was completely losing, and he KO'd the guy with his left hook from hell to ther liver)

vonBanditos
07-03-2007, 04:30 PM
Usually styles like that make for great fights, IMO. Like Hatton for example. (KO4 Castillo) And other brawlers like mickey ward (i forgot who it was, but he was completely losing, and he KO'd the guy with his left hook from hell to ther liver)
No doubt. I wouldn't miss a Brewster fight for the world.

Motor City Sam
07-03-2007, 04:33 PM
Usually styles like that make for great fights, IMO. Like Hatton for example. (KO4 Castillo) And other brawlers like mickey ward (i forgot who it was, but he was completely losing, and he KO'd the guy with his left hook from hell to ther liver)

Was that the Reggie Green/Mickey Ward fight? I remember Mickey being behind late and pulling a knockout out of thin air to win it.

emanuel_augustus
07-03-2007, 05:44 PM
My thinking is that Brewster may not be the same after the beating Liakovich gave him. He looks out of shape to me too.

Wlad ko 5.

Bazooka
07-03-2007, 05:49 PM
I mean why did he take this fight NOW!!

he got hammered in his last fight, taking a bad beating. and he got a bad eye injury for his troubles.
AND he is coming of a year long layoff!!!

to me, a prizefighter who really wants to deliver his best performance would not fight for a title after all this without a tuneup.

lots of other fighter (especially in europe) turn down such fights unless they are properly prepared.........the smart thing to do.

to me, this looks like brewster is just going for the quick buck.

I dont think its a quick buck there are champions now out there that Brewster can easily beat, Maskaev for one, I think Lamon is taking this fight becuase to him this is not only a very winnable fight, but its the kind of fight that when he does win it, he will be considered the best HW champion of the four.
Brewster will win this fight IMO, he has the mental edge going in, Wlad has panic attacks when he is pressured, lets see how this plays out, Yes I agree Lamon has took some punishment since their first fight, But Wlad has also been dropped since then as well, three times by peter (Legal or not they still did damage) and he was dropped by Williamson.
if Wlad comes into this fight scared its over and over fast.

Gabriel R.
07-03-2007, 05:55 PM
I mean why did he take this fight NOW!!

he got hammered in his last fight, taking a bad beating. and he got a bad eye injury for his troubles.
AND he is coming of a year long layoff!!!

to me, a prizefighter who really wants to deliver his best performance would not fight for a title after all this without a tuneup.

lots of other fighter (especially in europe) turn down such fights unless they are properly prepared.........the smart thing to do.

to me, this looks like brewster is just going for the quick buck.

I think he really will be trying. It's a very big chance to become champion again. It's too big to reject it for a tune-up fight, regardless of what the result will be. The question is if the lay-off has been good or bad for Brewster. A break doesn't neccessarily mean a disadvantage. Often, sportsmen achieve their best performance after a break, because the body can fully recover and the mind can fully process mental issues. Only that Brewster must be in shape. If so, I consider him ready for that fight.

Ramshall1
07-03-2007, 06:20 PM
Brewster has never shown he's a quitter.

Flatlander
07-03-2007, 06:59 PM
I mean why did he take this fight NOW!!

he got hammered in his last fight, taking a bad beating. and he got a bad eye injury for his troubles.
AND he is coming of a year long layoff!!!

to me, a prizefighter who really wants to deliver his best performance would not fight for a title after all this without a tuneup.

lots of other fighter (especially in europe) turn down such fights unless they are properly prepared.........the smart thing to do.

to me, this looks like brewster is just going for the quick buck.

Brew, was coming off a year layoff last time when he kicks Wladimir's ass.

Mendoza
07-03-2007, 07:07 PM
I mean why did he take this fight NOW!!

he got hammered in his last fight, taking a bad beating. and he got a bad eye injury for his troubles.
AND he is coming of a year long layoff!!!

to me, a prizefighter who really wants to deliver his best performance would not fight for a title after all this without a tuneup.

lots of other fighter (especially in europe) turn down such fights unless they are properly prepared.........the smart thing to do.

to me, this looks like brewster is just going for the quick buck.

Brewster has never failed to give the fans their monies worth. He is going to do his best to win. I don't think that will be enough though.

Mr "T"
07-03-2007, 08:16 PM
I dont think its a quick buck there are champions now out there that Brewster can easily beat, Maskaev for one, I think Lamon is taking this fight becuase to him this is not only a very winnable fight, but its the kind of fight that when he does win it, he will be considered the best HW champion of the four.
Brewster will win this fight IMO, he has the mental edge going in, Wlad has panic attacks when he is pressured, lets see how this plays out, Yes I agree Lamon has took some punishment since their first fight, But Wlad has also been dropped since then as well, three times by peter (Legal or not they still did damage) and he was dropped by Williamson.
if Wlad comes into this fight scared its over and over fast.

Very good point. I didn't like the way Wlad was fighting Brock until the big overhand right. He looked confused and frustrated until his jab set in. The man is gifted--if only he can work out his psychological issues.
He's one of the hardest hitting heavyweights punchers of all time, but if you get him rattled, that's all out the door...he's has gotten better, let's see what happens.

Bazooka
07-03-2007, 08:29 PM
Very good point. I didn't like the way Wlad was fighting Brock until the big overhand right. He looked confused and frustrated until his jab set in. The man is gifted--if only he can work out his psychological issues.
He's one of the hardest hitting heavyweights punchers of all time, but if you get him rattled, that's all out the door...he's has gotten better, let's see what happens.

it all depends on Wlad, if he wants to win he is going to have to show that in the ring, Brewster is not going to lay down for him, it will be a war Wlad must ask himself if he is willing to go through what he needs to, to pull it out, if he cant get past the mental aspect of it, he is done.
He has to be willing to get off the canvas if needed in order to win he should not go into this fight expecting to dominate each round if he goes right after Brewster he will get caught, he must box a very disiplined fight one mistake and its over.

Fighting Weight
07-03-2007, 08:47 PM
I don't understand anyone moaning about this fight coming off, seriously. This is going the be the most intrigueing fight in the elite division this year so why are people already making excuses for fighters before it's happened :huh

BOTH these guys could have taken easier fights than this but they didn't so massive credit to them for getting it on.

Both these guys know they can hurt the other with a punch, WALDO obviously knows he can out-box Brewster but Brewster knows he can KO WALDO as he's done it before.

This is a very interesting fight, and there's precious little of that going on in the heavyweights these days so lets enjoy it :good

HandsOfGold
07-03-2007, 08:54 PM
He's just gonna take his chances again with Wlad. He'll get the biggest payday possible and a chance to reclaim a Heavyweight title.

Besides the biggest payday possible, Brewster will be getting a hellacious beating.

skier47
07-03-2007, 10:51 PM
All this fight will show is whether Wlad has gotten better defensively.
Can he consistently avoid Brewsters huge punches and deal with
the constant pressure without gassing out. If he can do that and
land on Brewster Wlad should KO Brewster within 6 rounds. We'll see
if Steward's training methods have made Wlad a more well rounded
fighter or not. Much respect to Wlad for taking on a fighter who KOed
him. Most fighters who lose to another fighter lose again in the rematch.
Even superfast and talented Shane Mosley lost again to Vernon Forrest.
Something about having a fighters number. A very courageous and
dangerous career move by Wlad.