View Full Version : Hatton made $40 million and people dont think there will be a rematch....
db2431
12-12-2007, 05:00 AM
My guess is they have planned it for sometime in a year or 2 already, set to be the biggest earner in history, Hatton takes out some big names between then, fickle people forget and Hatton gets touted by most of GENERAL (not clued up!)to avenge his defeat.You dont get a fighter who earns $40 million dollars and loses just once to the best fighter at any weight on the planet too often.
grayggr
12-12-2007, 05:01 AM
The fight won't happen again.
Agreed. It doesn't need to, both fighters can move on in their respective careers and divisions.
JonOli
12-12-2007, 05:06 AM
I didn't think it would in a million years but looking at the figures involved from this one :yikes .
I'm sure Hatton would fight for free against "money" May. Floyd often states he will do anything if the money is right.
I still can never see it happening though unless Floyd picks up a surprising defeat and Hatton takes out a few of the big boys. Then there might be a minute chance.
Still say its never going to happen though.
Cant see this happening again.
K2ray
12-12-2007, 05:38 AM
My guess is they have planned it for sometime in a year or 2 already, set to be the biggest earner in history, Hatton takes out some big names between them , fickle people forget and Hatton gets touted by most of GENERAL (not clued up!)to avenge his defeat.You dont get a fighter who earns $40 million dollars and loses just once to the best fighter at any weight on the planet too often.
Hey, remember this:deal:
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Pimp C is waiting for his bet to be paid:hi:
db2431
12-12-2007, 05:47 AM
Hey, remember this:deal:
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Pimp C is waiting for his bet to be paid:hi:
I manned up and admitted I was wrong, Pimp C wasnt on his pimp game , not seeing I accepted :smoke
this fight doesnt need a rematch. The fight wasnt very good and we had a definate winner. what would a rematch prove...?
The only way there would be a rematch is if Hatton beats ODLH more impressively than Floyd did and beats Cotto as well. I doubt that will happend. A more realistic scenario is if ODLH fights Hatton and KO's him early on setting up a rematch with Floyd.
Monstar
12-12-2007, 06:20 AM
give um to cotto..
Benjiabc
12-12-2007, 06:57 AM
cotto and odlh would be too good for hatton. hatton is too sluggish at w/w
K2ray
12-12-2007, 07:06 AM
I think the rematch is a done deal. Who else is Floyd going to fight in Britain like he said after the fight?
Oscar's had a word with Floyd pre-fight and told him that a rematch at Wembley could be the biggest earner OF ALL TIME.
I completely agree the fight doesn't need to happen, I think it would probably go the same way too. But boxing is all about the money. I for one will not be surprised at all if a rematch is announced for next year.
Let's see if Ricky's uncharacteristic excuse making continues, and if Floyd responds to it. I can see it happening.
:huh..oh yeah, your TV speaker sytem must have blown at that point of the speech....let me fill in the blanks, PBF said: if I can't go to England then I said let England come to me:deal
psychopath
12-12-2007, 07:24 AM
My guess is they have planned it for sometime in a year or 2 already, set to be the biggest earner in history, Hatton takes out some big names between then, fickle people forget and Hatton gets touted by most of GENERAL (not clued up!)to avenge his defeat.You dont get a fighter who earns $40 million dollars and loses just once to the best fighter at any weight on the planet too often.
Who the fuck cares if he got $40 Mil? The important part is he got owned.
:yep :good
Leif Erikson
12-12-2007, 07:26 AM
Seriously though, I had a thought earlier. WHAT IF unprecedented amounts of money were on the table for a rematch at Wembley? WHAT IF it was known that a third fight would make even more money than that?
I'm not saying for a moment that Mayweather would take a blatant dive or something, but subconciously there's every chance that you'd take your foot off the accelerator if you knew you could make another $60m on top of the $50m you've just earned.
hooligan
12-12-2007, 08:37 AM
i dont wanna see another replay of a mismatch...
MacManJr.
12-12-2007, 08:41 AM
You're not saying Hatton made 40 million for this 1 fight alone are you?
K2ray
12-12-2007, 08:43 AM
He said he'd still like to fight in Britain. It'll happen.
He said he would have liked to, there's a difference...you don't understand PPV numbers for this fight may be great in the UK (out of seeking revenge)..in the USA nobody see a need for it (and neither do I)...they want a Mayweather v Cotto fight which could potentially break the Mayweatehr DLH figures...plus they don't give a hoot if a Mayweather Cotto fight doesn't make much money in the UK (neither do they expect it):deal...UK isnät the only market that tunes into boxing outside of Notth America (e.g. China is a new and potentially lucrative market).
MacManJr.
12-12-2007, 08:51 AM
yepSource?
MacManJr.
12-12-2007, 08:57 AM
The Sun, BBC, and about every paper in the UK!
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MacManJr.
12-12-2007, 09:08 AM
well its a national newspaper in England, and many other papers and news sites are reporting Hatton made £20 million which is the equivland of about $40.025 millionOk I gotcha. That's crazy. I thought only Oscar did numbers like that. How much did Floyd make?
IronBull
12-12-2007, 09:21 AM
How much money did Money Mayweather made? Including PPV.
elTerrible
12-12-2007, 09:45 AM
Id much rather PBF fight Cotto than Hatton again but I can see the rematch happening especially when money mayweather sees how many dollars it will bring in.
themainevent
12-12-2007, 09:55 AM
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Thats the link.
Says apparently that the US buyrate was expected to reach 1.5 million, in the UK 900,000 ppv's sold, shattering the previous record of Lewis v Tyson.
Says the fight generated about £70 ($145m) Million total, and because Hatton negotiated that he get a cut of every ppv sold in the UK above 350,000 he will be in line to make around £20 Million ($42m) from the fight, making him one of the highest paid boxers ever.
Pimp C
12-12-2007, 09:56 AM
Damn that's a great payday for Hatton. Makes him getting beat that much easier to take.
marting
12-12-2007, 09:57 AM
If a rematch were to happen what would the 30 minute round the clock HBO promos of the fight be named?
Catch the rematch of a mismatch?
196osh
12-12-2007, 10:13 AM
The fight should not Happen in a million years. Imo the worst thing that could happen when you are fighting someone like Floyd is for him t know he can hurt you.
196osh
12-12-2007, 10:14 AM
Jesus. Ricky got well payed for that. How the hell much did Floyd make?
JediPimp007
12-12-2007, 10:16 AM
How much money did Money Mayweather made? Including PPV.
probably similar, but I dont think he'll have made more, as Hatton got a share of all the UK PPV buys over 350k, he also had had exclusive TV rights, which I dont know how that works, but he was paid over £20... wonder what that works out at an hourly rate? :lol:
ralphc
12-12-2007, 10:45 AM
My guess is they have planned it for sometime in a year or 2 already, set to be the biggest earner in history, Hatton takes out some big names between then, fickle people forget and Hatton gets touted by most of GENERAL (not clued up!)to avenge his defeat.You dont get a fighter who earns $40 million dollars and loses just once to the best fighter at any weight on the planet too often.
The interest in the fight was largely generated through anticipation of the unknown. Now that the fight has happened, the same level of anticiaption will not be there. We all saw Hatton give his best effort, and we all saw Mayweather handle him easily. So what is there left to see? Nothing new, and consequently less probable interest from the fans. A promoter would be foolish to stage a rematch.
MacManJr.
12-12-2007, 10:47 AM
The fight should not Happen in a million years. Imo the worst thing that could happen when you are fighting someone like Floyd is for him t know he can hurt you.Excellent post!
stanno
12-12-2007, 11:18 AM
Floyd would win so it would be pointless, but if hatton regains the light welterweight crown with a few good wins and they wait 18 months let people forget about the gulf in class its a lot of money to be made.
Shane_Erich
12-12-2007, 11:20 AM
No way will there be a rematch, would be pointless.
db2431
12-12-2007, 11:24 AM
No way will there be a rematch, would be pointless.
When there is this much money involved, pointless or not, greed always takes over.
BoardBULLY
12-12-2007, 11:35 AM
Ricky Hatton needs to unify the 140lb belt in england..
He should beat Junior Witter in england and then come back to the U.S and beat Paul Maglinaggi
Who the fuck cares if he got $40 Mil? The important part is he got owned.
:yep :good
Important to YOU, maybe. Rick's laughing all the way to the bank mate.
Personally, I'd trade a 0 for a $40,000,000.
Twice.
J.E.T.
12-12-2007, 11:44 AM
Agree........it's all about greed, not sport.
JET
sthomas
12-12-2007, 11:48 AM
HHHHMMMMMM. I don't think a rematch is warranted but money is king. Hey, if Frazier could rematch George after the rag doll round 2 massacre, Ricky can do the same. Have it in UK, fight @ 140, and have Smoger the ref. There will be a different outcome, I guarantee it!!! and it's that Hatton fans (and I'm one) will have no excuses after he loses for the second time.
Wembley Stadium, England. 100,000 people. 2009.
scott is cool
12-12-2007, 11:55 AM
Can't see a re-match. Hatton discoverd he can't beat Floyd, the only way I see Hatton accepting it is if it was at 140 lbs, where I think it would be a closer fight, but PBF wouldn't move down for Hatton.
Asterion
12-12-2007, 11:57 AM
Hatton won't fight again at 147. Unless it's against Oscar de la Hoya.
Dostoevsky
12-12-2007, 11:59 AM
Let's see if Ricky's uncharacteristic excuse making continues, and if Floyd responds to it.
He won't.
Floyd NEVER badmouths an opponent after a fight.
Even after the Judah fight where he was called a 'bitch' during the fight and lowblowed and hit in the back of the head, he still refused to say anything bad about Judah to Merchant.
pipe wrenched
12-12-2007, 12:05 PM
I'm admittedy no expert on the currency between our nations, but it sounds to me from what I've understood that this is backwards. I thought 20 of Euro Million was $10 Million US, in other words our US $ represents half of what UK's does? This thread is implying that $20 euro equals $40 US and by my understanding that is backwards.
$20 mil euro = the $10 or so Million US he was reportedly getting all along.
pipe wrenched
12-12-2007, 12:10 PM
1 US $ = 0.68 Euros or 2.0125 English £
So does that not mean US = about 1/2?
$20Mil English = about $10 mil US?
Dostoevsky
12-12-2007, 12:10 PM
So Hatton actually earned £5 million ?
I heard he made $10 million.
I'm admittedy no expert on the currency between our nations, but it sounds to me from what I've understood that this is backwards. I thought 20 of Euro Million was $10 Million US, in other words our US $ represents half of what UK's does? This thread is implying that $20 euro equals $40 US and by my understanding that is backwards.
$20 mil euro = the $10 or so Million US he was reportedly getting all along.
the uk isn't in the euro currency. £20 million UK = $40 million US
there's 2 US dollars to every 1 UK pound
pipe wrenched
12-12-2007, 12:14 PM
the uk isn't in the euro currency. £20 million UK = $40 million US
there's 2 US dollars to every 1 UK pound
Thank you, as I said I didn't understand and thought it was the other way around. I thought 1$ US was equal to 2$ English.
Let's see if Ricky's uncharacteristic excuse making continues, and if Floyd responds to it. I can see it happening.
Please post the source of these "excuses" Ricky's making.
My guess is they have planned it for sometime in a year or 2 already, set to be the biggest earner in history, Hatton takes out some big names between then, fickle people forget and Hatton gets touted by most of GENERAL (not clued up!)to avenge his defeat.You dont get a fighter who earns $40 million dollars and loses just once to the best fighter at any weight on the planet too often.
Nope , Floyd left no guess work as who was the best , and I doubt the british fan are going to be excited about there man being beat again , even more soundly the second time around.
No one going to buy into the idea that the ending will be any different.
pipe wrenched
12-12-2007, 12:15 PM
the English £ is basically double the US $
SO 5 IN $ IS 10 IN £
20 IN $ IS 40 IN £
And in this case, 20 E is equal to $10 million US.
Dscaper
12-12-2007, 12:19 PM
1 British Pound Sterling = 2 US Dollars
1 British Pound Sterling = 1.4~ Euro (as of Dec 12 2007 IMF)
1 US Dollar = 0.7~ Euro
Dscaper
12-12-2007, 12:22 PM
oh, and...
1 Euro = 1.47 US Dollars. :)
Nope , Floyd left no guess work as who was the best , and I doubt the british fan are going to be excited about there man being beat again , even more soundly the second time around.
Sir, no disrespect but you are mistaken. Very few people actually care as much as you think about Hatton getting beaten. Personally, I haven't spoken to one single person over here who has less respect for Rick since he was beaten. If anything, he has only gained more respect for having the balls to put everything on the line and giving it his best shot. I think people would watch a rematch with as much , if not more, enthusiasm as the first fight between these two great warriors.
Q: How many fighters would trade the possibility of a defeat for $40,000,000?
Boxing is a massive business, at the end of the day.
As for "even more soundly the second time around" -- there are a number of things that can change the outcome; a fair referee, the mental state of a fighter, the ring size, and a hundred other variables that I don't even need to list. Sure, the likleyhood of Floyd winning again is very high, but you cannot say for sure that the outcome of a rematch would mean Hatton gets beaten even more convincingly.
pipe wrenched
12-12-2007, 12:25 PM
oops the wrong way round!!!!
£5 = $10
£20 = $40
Ok.......WOW!!! That means that Ricky made as much in this fight as did ODH when he fought Floyd!! I would hate to know what Floyd made!! I could understand a lot more money being involved with this fight because of 2 large countries paying PPV for it, but damn they made a lot of money!! Thank you for educating me, as that was the only reason I asked. :good
This is where americans just dont get it! The same as they dont get atmosphere! Hatton will have no less fans at all, infact he will probably have more, its not in the nature of the British to abonden its sportsmen.
Exactly what I'm saying too.
Sir, no disrespect but you are mistaken. Very few people actually care as much as you think about Hatton getting beaten. Personally, I haven't spoken to one single person over here who has less respect for Rick since he was beaten. If anything, he has only gained more respect for having the balls to put everything on the line and giving it his best shot. I think people would watch a rematch with as much , if not more, enthusiasm as the first fight between these two great warriors.
Q: How many fighters would trade the possibility of a defeat for $40,000,000?
Boxing is a massive business, at the end of the day.
Who said anything about less respect, I have loads of respect for Ricky but that does not change the fact that he was completely out boxed, out classed and KOed ..
two out of the three might warrant a rematch but 3 out of 3 says no way in hell a rematch happens .
who going to pay for a fight , when know the result are going to be the same ??
This is where americans just dont get it! The same as they dont get atmosphere! Hatton will have no less fans at all, infact he will probably have more, its not in the nature of the British to abonden its sportsmen.
again who said anything about hatton fans abandoning him ? Im pretty sure he gain some fan here in the US hell he gained one in me but You'd have to be half crazy to pay for the same fight, knowing the results will be the same .
Who said anything about less respect, I have loads of respect for Ricky but that does not change the fact that he was completely out boxed, out classed and KOed ..
two out of the three might warrant a rematch but 3 out of 3 says no way in hell a rematch happens .
who going to pay for a fight , when know the result are going to be the same ??
If I misunderstood your other post, it's probably because you didn't word it as well as you coulld have. You seemed to imply that the people of England cannot stand to see their man lose. If so, that would be incorrect.
If you don't mind me saying, though, you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit by claiming it's a guaranteed win for Floyd. There is no guarantee at all. I hope you are not seeing this from the narrow-minded viewpoint of a Floyd Mayweather fanatic with blinkers on. Please try to be unbiased, and understand that one punch can change the outcome of ANY fight between ANY two fighters.
again who said anything about hatton fans abandoning him ? Im pretty sure he gain some fan here in the US hell he gained one in me but You'd have to be half crazy to pay for the same fight, knowing the results will be the same .
Again, I'll highlight your choice of the word "knowing".
Unless you are psychic, have a crystal ball, and can see into the future, you should refrain from using that word.
You may think a rematch is a crazy idea, but it makes sense business-wise and entertainment-wise.
maciek4
12-12-2007, 01:00 PM
The reason this fight was so huge is because even though Mayweather was the favourite there was this big unknown how their styles would clash, how Mayweather would deal with the pressure, will Hatton be able to outwork him ect, now all the questions have been answered so no need for rematch. It was not controversial, not disputable, absolutely no reason for the rematch. If Floyd loses a fight then it still doesnt make sense. Unless of course if Hatton fights Cotto, DeLaHoya, Mosley and knocks them all out impressivly then I could see it :D
to be honest, when i first thought about it after the result, my instinct said rematch. but now i think about it - why not a de la hoya/hatton fight - (they've all proved themselves pretty much, none are likely to fight much longer - get the money in is the most sensible solution - hatton has nothing more to prove at 140, he is the best in the division full stop!). hatton v de la hoya - the two recent victims of mayweather in wembley would be massive - possibly the biggest fight so far. and then the winner in a rematch against floyd at wembley again or have the first at the millennium, the "final" at wembley would generate more money than we could comprehend - we (the british) are finally seeing that boxing is a good sport for us - professionals and amateurs, amir khans exploits are not going unnoticed, and boxing has been on the back page far more than other sports (save football (soccer for the americans :P) in recent weeks/months. calzaghe is developing an exceptional following here, because everyone loves to watch him fight. hatton will always have his following, and de la hoya is well known in the uk, so a match at millennium/wembley would draw major interest - especially as two of mayweathers recent victims - and two of his most toughest (in his words) get it on to warrant a rematch with the p4p #1.
db2431
12-12-2007, 01:42 PM
I'm not sure I believe Hatton earned £20m, its just....insane. But if that is the case then Floyd must have made broadly similar, in which case I'm sure he'll rematch.
I don't think its worthwhile, and I don't think Hatton will fare any better BUT
Hatton's point of view: £20m for a chance at redemption, in a situation where you've already lost you '0'; and losing twice to Floyd is probably better than to Floyd + someone else.
PBF's point of view: $40m to kick the ass you already did. Hmmm.....
You summed it up perfectly.
charlievint
12-12-2007, 01:44 PM
Important to YOU, maybe. Rick's laughing all the way to the bank mate.
Personally, I'd trade a 0 for a $40,000,000.
Twice.
I wouldn't say he's laughing....he seems to be in poor spirits. Hatton is not like Mayweather. If Mayweather would have lost and made $40 he may have been alright with that just b/c he got to line his pockets with some major $$$.....but Hatton seems to be very affected by the first loss of his career and even though $40mill is a lot of money it's not the most important thing to Hatton......Winning is! Hes just a very competitive fellow. But he should be happy with this payday even if he did loose in a one sided fight.. You could still see he gave his all.
charlievint
12-12-2007, 01:47 PM
I'm admittedy no expert on the currency between our nations, but it sounds to me from what I've understood that this is backwards. I thought 20 of Euro Million was $10 Million US, in other words our US $ represents half of what UK's does? This thread is implying that $20 euro equals $40 US and by my understanding that is backwards.
$20 mil euro = the $10 or so Million US he was reportedly getting all along.
LOL...Where have you been....the Dollar is at an all time low!!! The Eruo is 2 times more than what the dollar is worth. You are backwards in your assesment. The Dollar was worth more before president bush.
db2431
12-12-2007, 01:49 PM
I wouldn't say he's laughing....he seems to be in poor spirits. Hatton is not like Mayweather. If Mayweather would have lost and made $40 he may have been alright with that just b/c he got to line his pockets with some major $$$.....but Hatton seems to be very affected by the first loss of his career and even though $40mill is a lot of money it's not the most important thing to Hatton......Winning is! Hes just a very competitive fellow. But he should be happy with this payday even if he did loose in a one sided fight.. You could still see he gave his all.
They both get what they Ultimately want most from Boxing, FLoyd gets his biggest Payday yet, Hatton gets his chance to revenge his only loss.
charlievint
12-12-2007, 01:54 PM
If I misunderstood your other post, it's probably because you didn't word it as well as you coulld have. You seemed to imply that the people of England cannot stand to see their man lose. If so, that would be incorrect.
If you don't mind me saying, though, you're getting ahead of yourself a little bit by claiming it's a guaranteed win for Floyd. There is no guarantee at all. I hope you are not seeing this from the narrow-minded viewpoint of a Floyd Mayweather fanatic with blinkers on. Please try to be unbiased, and understand that one punch can change the outcome of ANY fight between ANY two fighters.
I think the UK fans are dissapointed that Hatton did not win...NOT that they are dissapointed in Hatton b/c you can't be dissapointed for one giving his all! But The British fans really wanted to see Floyd get shut the fuck up as did many US fans, but of course the outcome was Floyd KOing Hatton due to better skills, talent and reflexes.
There are no gurantees in boxing...anyone can have a good night and upset the best, but in boxing it's all about intelligent predicitions using records, previous fight, level of opposition and experience as a measuing stick to "Predict" the outcome of any fight.
Using these variables as the base of this equation it would let on that Hatton has a very small chance at beating Floyd...maybe he does better b/c he saw what floyd has to offer, but on the flip side Floyd also saw what Hatton brings to the table and can make adjustments for a more dominant preformance.
charlievint
12-12-2007, 01:59 PM
They both get what they Ultimately want most from Boxing, FLoyd gets his biggest Payday yet, Hatton gets his chance to revenge his only loss.
Problem is....there won't be much "EXCITMENT" the 2nd time round for the US boxing fans b/c of the onesidedness of their initial meeting. Floyd doesn't have a STRONG following of fans like a DLH or Hatton does in his backyard. So while it will make sense for Hatton to avenge his only loss, for Floyd he'd be taking less money to beat up on a previous victim who ended up making a shit load more than he did for winning the actual fight. Like I said...I'd watch the fight, but there aren't many who would pay $55 again for a carbon copy rematch of the first fight.
db2431
12-12-2007, 02:07 PM
Problem is....there won't be much "EXCITMENT" the 2nd time round for the US boxing fans b/c of the onesidedness of their initial meeting. Floyd doesn't have a STRONG following of fans like a DLH or Hatton does in his backyard. So while it will make sense for Hatton to avenge his only loss, for Floyd he'd be taking less money to beat up on a previous victim who ended up making a shit load more than he did for winning the actual fight. Like I said...I'd watch the fight, but there aren't many who would pay $55 again for a carbon copy rematch of the first fight.
You are looking at it as it stands 4 days out, in 6 months to a year, say Hatton has smashed in to Oblivion a couple of contenders, kept his weight consistently at 145-150 when not fighting, maybe even sharpened up his defence, people will soon forget and think Hatton has a chance again.I honestly think it will have woken Hatton up to the fact that he cant lose 40 pounds twice a year and spend 6 months drinking/eating like he has been and hope to beat someone like Floyd, who never strays over 10 pounds above his fighting weight.
Stezzie
12-12-2007, 02:26 PM
Can't see a re-match. Hatton discoverd he can't beat Floyd, the only way I see Hatton accepting it is if it was at 140 lbs, where I think it would be a closer fight, but PBF wouldn't move down for Hatton.
How would it be a closer fight? Mayweather would just weigh in at 140 instead of 147 and he would still fight at 147...What would change? Floyd would shed some water weight right before the weigh-in then gain it back like 99% of boxers do what does that change about the fight??
Nobody seems to be able to answer this question yet some many people believe it makes a difference...Can anybody explain what the difference would be?
charlievint
12-12-2007, 03:01 PM
You are looking at it as it stands 4 days out, in 6 months to a year, say Hatton has smashed in to Oblivion a couple of contenders, kept his weight consistently at 145-150 when not fighting, maybe even sharpened up his defence, people will soon forget and think Hatton has a chance again.I honestly think it will have woken Hatton up to the fact that he cant lose 40 pounds twice a year and spend 6 months drinking/eating like he has been and hope to beat someone like Floyd, who never strays over 10 pounds above his fighting weight.
Oh...of course...but you are only as good as your last performance in boxing....4 days out there is no reason to be discussing rematch. If Hatton can change his style a bit to combat a truly great boxers offense he could have a better chance at winning but right now seems a bit "jumping the gun" calling for a rematch.
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