View Full Version : If championship fights were still 15 rounds
quintonjacksonfan
07-03-2007, 09:37 PM
What fights do you think would of had a different outcome?
I'm thinking Hagler would of beat SRL. I could be wrong Hagler still would of had
to win the last 3 rounds or score a knockout.
Duodenum
07-03-2007, 11:01 PM
That depends. How many championship fights have been scheduled for less than 15 rounds over the last 25 years?
It's easier to speculate about which champions over the last quarter century would still be identified as ATGs.
As soon as the first WBC 12 round title fights went the scheduled limit, it became instantly apparent that professional boxing had succeeded in neutering itself. The WBA and IBF could have driven the WBC out of existence by retaining the true championship limit, but Sulamain, Arum, King, and Mendoza got together for a gay Caligulan orgy, and unfortunately, remembered to bring AIDS preventing condoms to their squalid dipshit festival. (This party was probably inspired by Soft Cell's video performance of Tainted Love. The timing's about right!)
la-califa
07-04-2007, 04:01 AM
The Heavyweight division wouldn't be in the pathetic state it is in now! The fighters would actually have to get into halfway decent shape & not grope & hang onto eachother for twelve boring rounds.
McGrain
07-04-2007, 05:50 AM
Hopkins would have beaten Taylor - that one sticks out from recent times.
I agree about the heavyweights being better of under 15 rounds. The extra three right at the most difficult time in the fight might have forced improvement in the division of the back of the greater athletetcisim required.
You can't get into the ring in the sort of nick that these boys do with those three tagged on and expect to win.
Briggs has shown it can be done over 12 ish in poor shape.
Amsterdam
07-04-2007, 06:04 AM
Hopkins would have beaten Taylor - that one sticks out from recent times.
I agree about the heavyweights being better of under 15 rounds. The extra three right at the most difficult time in the fight might have forced improvement in the division of the back of the greater athletetcisim required.
You can't get into the ring in the sort of nick that these boys do with those three tagged on and expect to win.
Briggs has shown it can be done over 12 ish in poor shape.
Indeed, Hopkins would have finished Taylor off twice.
apollack
07-04-2007, 09:57 AM
Yup, which is why they need to bring it back. So many so called championship fights would have had a totally different outcome if they were 15 rounds, and a lot of 15 rounders would have had different outcomes if they were only 12 rounds. 15 is the true championhsip, and for these real mega fight legit #1 vs. #2 type fights, they should be 15.
ThinBlack
10-13-2011, 04:37 PM
What fights do you think would of had a different outcome?
I'm thinking Hagler would of beat SRL. I could be wrong Hagler still would of had
to win the last 3 rounds or score a knockout.
Whitaker would've dominated Ramirez 3 more rounds, and not get robbed of a decision loss.
Duodenum
10-13-2011, 06:18 PM
Whitaker would've dominated Ramirez 3 more rounds, and not get robbed of a decision loss.Ramirez would have rallied from behind to win his first match with Rosario (who may not have even reached the final bell the way he was fading), and Edwin would not be in Canastota today.
frankenfrank
10-13-2011, 06:40 PM
Whitaker would've dominated Ramirez 3 more rounds, and not get robbed of a decision loss.
Ramirez would have beaten (a tiring) Whitaker more decisively than he did @ both of their fights and Whitaker would have had 2 look 4 a weaker titlist .
Thread Stealer
10-13-2011, 07:18 PM
Well usually I figure the fighters would pace themselves differently, knowing it was a 15 round fight.
I do wonder though about a fight like Trinidad-DLH. DLH said he was fatigued and his "legs were shaky". Im sure DLH trained hard, but he used a lot of movement and he was a rather tense fighter, which takes up energy. Oscar had the right gameplan to use his superior footwork and movement, but it took up energy.
There's other cases where a guy seems exhausted at the end of 12, Bruno-McCall and Holyfield-Bowe 2. Bruno-McCall was already fought at a snail's pace, and Frank was dead tired in the 12th. Bowe certainly had more in the tank in the 12th than Holyfield and seemed to hurt him in that round.
Wonder how those fights would've gone if they'd been 15
ocelot
10-13-2011, 08:16 PM
You can't say. Fighters train for the number of rounds they have to fight.
ThinBlack
10-14-2011, 12:14 PM
Ramirez would have rallied from behind to win his first match with Rosario (who may not have even reached the final bell the way he was fading), and Edwin would not be in Canastota today.
In addition to Edwin, maybe he could've flattened Camacho had they fought those extra three rounds.
ThinBlack
10-14-2011, 12:16 PM
Ramirez would have beaten (a tiring) Whitaker more decisively than he did @ both of their fights and Whitaker would have had 2 look 4 a weaker titlist .
Possibly, but I have a feeling he woudn't get the job done.
Vano-Irons
10-14-2011, 01:08 PM
The Heavyweight division wouldn't be in the pathetic state it is in now! The fighters would actually have to get into halfway decent shape & not grope & hang onto eachother for twelve boring rounds.
Bingo :good
Hopkins would have beaten Taylor as mentioned.
Froch would have beaten Kessler IMO
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