View Full Version : got my first cut today...and it feels good
so today I was working with my trainer and he came up with a creative drill....he taped a glove to a bamboo stick and had me bobbing and weaving. Honestly, I dodged 99% of the shots, but the one time I got hit, the bamboo behind the limited padding (12 oz. I think) pushed into the area right above my eye and I instantly knew it was cut. Initially it pissed me off and all I could think was making sure I was quick enough to not get hit at all, and how it was a good simulation of a real fight because you will be forced to fight through things like that (until they stop the fight).....in retrospect, I'm glad it happened....it's the type of experience any boxer needs....the pain builds the toughness. Of course I won't be sparring until it heals, but overall a good learning experience.
Relentless
12-15-2007, 10:22 PM
your trainer tried hitting you with a bamboo stick?
lefty
12-15-2007, 11:13 PM
Excellent, now if you fight someone you have a weak spot that can be opened up easily, that must feel great.
Johnboy2007
12-16-2007, 01:06 AM
Sounds like a really good drill apart from teh cutting thing lol. Training should be as safe as possible. I understand where your coming from though and what you mean like it made you work harder. But i wouldnt recommend doing it again until you put some padding round it.
welshwonder
12-16-2007, 09:12 AM
it does sound like a good drill but how would you feel if the bamboo would have hit into your eye and blinded you i think you would have been a whole lot more pissed off i sure would have been.
viru§™
12-16-2007, 09:57 AM
so today I was working with my trainer and he came up with a creative drill....he taped a glove to a bamboo stick and had me bobbing and weaving. Honestly, I dodged 99% of the shots, but the one time I got hit, the bamboo behind the limited padding (12 oz. I think) pushed into the area right above my eye and I instantly knew it was cut. Initially it pissed me off and all I could think was making sure I was quick enough to not get hit at all, and how it was a good simulation of a real fight because you will be forced to fight through things like that (until they stop the fight).....in retrospect, I'm glad it happened....it's the type of experience any boxer needs....the pain builds the toughness. Of course I won't be sparring until it heals, but overall a good learning experience.
That's an old martial arts training method, can't remember which MA though. It's meant to be a way of simulating punches and kicks. Makes no sense why your trainer would get you doing that instead of sparring.
your trainer tried hitting you with a bamboo stick?
glove taped on to it
Excellent, now if you fight someone you have a weak spot that can be opened up easily, that must feel great.
considering I'm not fighting soon, I don't see the problem.
it does sound like a good drill but how would you feel if the bamboo would have hit into your eye and blinded you i think you would have been a whole lot more pissed off i sure would have been.
yeah, I know, but scientifically speaking, that was virtually impossible. The bamboo stick may have been behind the padding, but given the surface area of the glove, highly improbable. point still taken though.
That's an old martial arts training method, can't remember which MA though. It's meant to be a way of simulating punches and kicks. Makes no sense why your trainer would get you doing that instead of sparring.
it's more specific than sparring. It stimulated my defense more.
Slicknick56
12-16-2007, 02:32 PM
why the hell did everyone just give him shit for this. the whole point was that he got cut, not about the bamboo stick. i like the idea of the drill and if u get cut, you get cut. i see nothign wrong with it. you can lose an eye sparring, you can break your hands hitting the bag. i never heard of a pussy training camp until just now when people started shitting on you for this drill.
why the hell did everyone just give him shit for this. the whole point was that he got cut, not about the bamboo stick. i like the idea of the drill and if u get cut, you get cut. i see nothign wrong with it. you can lose an eye sparring, you can break your hands hitting the bag. i never heard of a pussy training camp until just now when people started shitting on you for this drill.
thank you. it's a great drill. These days, boxers are moving away from hardbody training methods, calling them risky and stupid. fucking 8 year-old kids in thailand are forced to kick trees to kill nerve cells so that the kicking doesn't hurt anymore. and you're right, you can lose an eye, break a bone in any situation, so it's not some big deal...if it happens, it happens. it's good to see someone who doesn't decry stuff like this.
another example is at my old gym, before I started going...my friend experienced it. it was an mma class. the same guy had them squat, and he would hit their thighs with a bamboo stick, which is a perfect simulation of an mma fight because leg kicks are the most common and have a devastating effect in large amounts. so, one kid gets internal bleeding. To me, this is a hardcore, fundamental drill that builds fortitude. My guess is that 90% of the people on this forum would call it insane....the same people who call themselves fighters, which entails being able to take punishment.
viru§™
12-16-2007, 08:27 PM
thank you. it's a great drill. These days, boxers are moving away from hardbody training methods, calling them risky and stupid. fucking 8 year-old kids in thailand are forced to kick trees to kill nerve cells so that the kicking doesn't hurt anymore. and you're right, you can lose an eye, break a bone in any situation, so it's not some big deal...if it happens, it happens. it's good to see someone who doesn't decry stuff like this.
another example is at my old gym, before I started going...my friend experienced it. it was an mma class. the same guy had them squat, and he would hit their thighs with a bamboo stick, which is a perfect simulation of an mma fight because leg kicks are the most common and have a devastating effect in large amounts. so, one kid gets internal bleeding. To me, this is a hardcore, fundamental drill that builds fortitude. My guess is that 90% of the people on this forum would call it insane....the same people who call themselves fighters, which entails being able to take punishment.
Why are you trying to compare Muay Thai training to boxing? They kill the nerves in the leg by kicking trees so they don't feel pain on contact.... And? Are you going to go and start punching trees to get the same effect? If you want to become good at dodging punches, then you should go dodge punches from a sparring partner. There's only one way to get good at something and that's repetition of what you want to do.
Relentless
12-16-2007, 09:08 PM
thank you. it's a great drill. These days, boxers are moving away from hardbody training methods, calling them risky and stupid. fucking 8 year-old kids in thailand are forced to kick trees to kill nerve cells so that the kicking doesn't hurt anymore. and you're right, you can lose an eye, break a bone in any situation, so it's not some big deal...if it happens, it happens. it's good to see someone who doesn't decry stuff like this.
another example is at my old gym, before I started going...my friend experienced it. it was an mma class. the same guy had them squat, and he would hit their thighs with a bamboo stick, which is a perfect simulation of an mma fight because leg kicks are the most common and have a devastating effect in large amounts. so, one kid gets internal bleeding. To me, this is a hardcore, fundamental drill that builds fortitude. My guess is that 90% of the people on this forum would call it insane....the same people who call themselves fighters, which entails being able to take punishment.
i dont see the point of taking more punishment than i have to.
younghypnotiq
12-16-2007, 10:53 PM
thank you. it's a great drill. These days, boxers are moving away from hardbody training methods, calling them risky and stupid. fucking 8 year-old kids in thailand are forced to kick trees to kill nerve cells so that the kicking doesn't hurt anymore. and you're right, you can lose an eye, break a bone in any situation, so it's not some big deal...if it happens, it happens. it's good to see someone who doesn't decry stuff like this.
another example is at my old gym, before I started going...my friend experienced it. it was an mma class. the same guy had them squat, and he would hit their thighs with a bamboo stick, which is a perfect simulation of an mma fight because leg kicks are the most common and have a devastating effect in large amounts. so, one kid gets internal bleeding. To me, this is a hardcore, fundamental drill that builds fortitude. My guess is that 90% of the people on this forum would call it insane....the same people who call themselves fighters, which entails being able to take punishment.
no they dot kick trees like oaks and shit. they kcik baby bannaa trees which is softer then the heavy bag. also why didnt he just throw punches with the gloves and have u slip them? that would of been smarter
BLaZeD
12-17-2007, 07:02 AM
your trainer tried hitting you with a bamboo stick?
I lol'd
:D
If you want to become good at dodging punches, then you should go dodge punches from a sparring partner.
it's the same shit. since the bamboo stick is longer, it's different.
i dont see the point of taking more punishment than i have to.
nor do I. I was commenting on how people will call certain drills crazy when taking pain is just part of the sport....not everything can be perfectly controlled.
also why didnt he just throw punches with the gloves and have u slip them? that would of been smarter
we also do this. he throws punches with the pads, sometimes consecutively, or just randomely when I'm not expecting it. Every time we do pads, he's throwing punches to make sure I am aware and creating angles. But the bamboo stick is more motivating. it makes you sharper. wtf do I care if I get tagged with a pad? but if I'm dodging something like that, it will improve my defense much more.
viru§™
12-18-2007, 12:05 PM
There's always a smart way to train, obviously using bamboo in your training isn't smart, as this thread proves. You thinking you're a badass because you got cut by a bamboo stick during boxing training is pretty funny.
There's always a smart way to train, obviously using bamboo in your training isn't smart, as this thread proves. You thinking you're a badass because you got cut by a bamboo stick during boxing training is pretty funny.
ok, define 'smart training'. How the fuck does this thread "prove" that taping a glove to a bamboo stick and using it to simulate strikes is bad? because a few pussies think it's too hardcore? And where did I say, or even imply, I thought I was a bad-ass? All I said was that I was glad it happened because enduring pain builds fortitude. If you can show me a quote where I imply that, then talk shit.
The same shit could happen getting punched, so I don't know why you specified using bamboo, as if it's some bad thing....you're obviously a bitch
viru§™
12-18-2007, 12:50 PM
ok, define 'smart training'.
Training that helps you improve with minimal risk of getting injured.
How the fuck does this thread "prove" that taping a glove to a bamboo stick and using it to simulate strikes is bad?
Your boxing trainer cut your head open with a piece of bamboo... think about it.
because a few pussies think it's too hardcore?
Hardcore? No. Stupid? Yes. Please explain how attacking you with bamboo sticks is more effective than sparring.
And where did I say, or even imply, I thought I was a bad-ass? All I said was that I was glad it happened because enduring pain builds fortitude. If you can show me a quote where I imply that, then talk shit.
"I got a cut and it feels good" Explain what you meant by this. To me it sounds like "I got a cut, so now I'm one of the cool, badass guys and it feels good".
The same shit could happen getting punched, so I don't know why you specified using bamboo, as if it's some bad thing....
Getting a cut from being punched, yeah ok that wouldn't be a shock, but increasing the obvious risk of getting cut by using bamboo (which to be honest has no real advantage and no relevance to boxing) is kinda dumb.
you're obviously a bitch
Yeah, ok :roll: Maybe I could get a friend to come use his nunchucks on you next time :rofl
boxexpert
12-18-2007, 04:12 PM
:patsch
Relentless
12-18-2007, 04:13 PM
nwil is a bad mofo, fuckin with him is like fuckin with the best.
Training that helps you improve with minimal risk of getting injured.
exactly, but what if there is a better training method with higher risk of injury? should it be discarded?
Your boxing trainer cut your head open with a piece of bamboo... think about it.
ok....and he's given me a bloody nose before with a punch. this is boxing, shit happens. it's not like he said to stand up against a wall and take 5 whacks.
Hardcore? No. Stupid? Yes. Please explain how attacking you with bamboo sticks is more effective than sparring.
nothing is better than sparring overall, but this is a specific drill aimed at honing defensive techniques such as slipping, ducking and creating angles with footwork. plus, being that it is a bamboo stick, one is much more likely to work. I never said it was better than sparring anyway.....
"I got a cut and it feels good" Explain what you meant by this. To me it sounds like "I got a cut, so now I'm one of the cool, badass guys and it feels good".
no, it feels good having the experience because it's just another building block. basically, I just like the punishment, because it benefits me. I don't think myself any "tougher" than I was the day I got into boxing....I'm just more used to punishment...toughness is just a perception, atleast in the way you're using it.
this drill is good because one will improve their defense more. If he ever does it again with me, you better believe I'll dodge every one of those shots, because I don't want to get cut. and like I said before, it could easily happen in a fight, given your opponent is going all out, so one mistake and you'll probably be fucked up....so instead of always doing it with pads where there's no pressure and then getting in the ring where there is, it simulates it better.
viru§™
12-18-2007, 06:01 PM
exactly, but what if there is a better training method with higher risk of injury? should it be discarded?
Again, explain how someone trying to poke you with bamboo is better than a boxer standing there trying to punch you.
ok....and he's given me a bloody nose before with a punch. this is boxing, shit happens. it's not like he said to stand up against a wall and take 5 whacks.
A bloody nose is expected, getting cut with bamboo isn't.
nothing is better than sparring overall, but this is a specific drill aimed at honing defensive techniques such as slipping, ducking and creating angles with footwork. plus, being that it is a bamboo stick, one is much more likely to work. I never said it was better than sparring anyway.....
So the guy actually tries to full on smack you in the face with bamboo sticks? Why not just punch you, you know with his fist?
no, it feels good having the experience because it's just another building block. basically, I just like the punishment, because it benefits me. I don't think myself any "tougher" than I was the day I got into boxing....I'm just more used to punishment...toughness is just a perception, atleast in the way you're using it.
True.
this drill is good because one will improve their defense more. If he ever does it again with me, you better believe I'll dodge every one of those shots, because I don't want to get cut.
So one mistake and you could get cut, lose an eye, get your face sliced open and you don't see the problem?
I'm just trying to understand how this is effective training for a boxer.
Athorn4941
12-18-2007, 06:41 PM
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Thank god for my hardcore boxing training. All you pussies. LOL :lol:
Again, explain how someone trying to poke you with bamboo is better than a boxer standing there trying to punch you.
I was comparing the bamboo drill to sparring. I was speaking on its benefit, in regards to itself.
So the guy actually tries to full on smack you in the face with bamboo sticks? Why not just punch you, you know with his fist?
I think you are misinterpreting. He taped a glove to the top of a bamboo stick, he didn't use the stick by itself. This was the first time we've ever done this...everything else was pads and sparring mostly.
So one mistake and you could get cut, lose an eye, get your face sliced open and you don't see the problem?
yeah, it's risky, I know.
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