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TFFP
12-16-2007, 11:52 PM
I think we need to stop ignoring what is right infront of our eyes

I have been searching for reasons as to why Hatton suffered a shock defeat to Mayweather, and it just hit me

A certain Oscar De La Hoya was sighted in Ricky's gym pre-fight, by all accounts giving fraudulent advice. It was sickening to see this sort of behaviour from a respected fighter, using his experience to give Hatton the worst possible tactics, so that he would lose to Mayweather. AMERICAN fighter boosts fellow AMERICANS chances

Next thing we know, this man is appointed ref:
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For starters, how can you trust a man known to sport a beard like that

We know Joe is Puerto Rican, but guess what...he was born in AMERICA. We then suffered one of the most biased displays of refereeing in the history of sport, dating back to when some Heracles bloke rounded up 12 cavemen to create the Olympics. I'm sure I saw Mayweather sneak him a bung in his back pocket, during their post-match hug-a-thon

TWO indisputable factors in the Hitman's loss. I'd say they cost him the fight to be honest, it looked like a routine victory. I expect most will agree with me, but some will ignore these FACTS [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Ziggy Montana
12-16-2007, 11:58 PM
The illuminatis were behind the conspiracy, China Hand Joe told me. :hop

TFFP
12-16-2007, 11:59 PM
It's not some sort of fucking joke you know

This shit is ruining boxing. I'm never paying to watch a British fighter in America again

lillarry
12-17-2007, 12:02 AM
It's not some sort of fucking joke you know

This shit is ruining boxing. I'm never paying to watch a British fighter in America again

I think I told you this before, but to reiterate, you are a joke:yep

Ziggy Montana
12-17-2007, 12:02 AM
It's not some sort of fucking joke you know

This shit is ruining boxing. I'm never paying to watch a British fighter in America againOK, you proved your point. Agent Mulder and Scully are on their way. :hat

TFFP
12-17-2007, 12:03 AM
I think I told you this before, but to reiterate, you are a joke:yep
Typical. You don't even attempt to counter my arguments, because they are FACT

Instead its personal abuse

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JAM Killer
12-17-2007, 12:11 AM
I think Hatton lost because his chin couldn't hold up against a left hook from a boxer with moderate power.

onceagain
12-17-2007, 12:14 AM
that beard is indeed sketchy, but what can we do about things like that? if we start to crack down on men with sketchy beards then they're liable to start shaving them off, which means we have no way of knowing who has the urge to sport such a hideous thing!

?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!? plz help

TFFP
12-17-2007, 12:21 AM
that beard is indeed sketchy, but what can we do about things like that? if we start to crack down on men with sketchy beards then they're liable to start shaving them off, which means we have no way of knowing who has the urge to sport such a hideous thing!

?!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!? plz help I am here to help
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Now stop derailing my thread

nezy37
12-17-2007, 12:53 AM
Your serious aren't you?:rofl

Ricky isn't on Floyd's level, that wasn't apparent to you?:rofl

unclepaulie
12-17-2007, 12:59 AM
Why would De La Hoya want Hatton to lose, when he made it clear that he would want to fight Hatton if he beat Mayweather. You are really strecthing with this garbage, just stop. You are embarassing yourself.

Saltzy
12-17-2007, 01:05 AM
I think we need to stop ignoring what is right infront of our eyes

I have been searching for reasons as to why Hatton suffered a shock defeat to Mayweather, and it just hit me

A certain Oscar De La Hoya was sighted in Ricky's gym pre-fight, by all accounts giving fraudulent advice. It was sickening to see this sort of behaviour from a respected fighter, using his experience to give Hatton the worst possible tactics, so that he would lose to Mayweather. AMERICAN fighter boosts fellow AMERICANS chances

Next thing we know, this man is appointed ref:
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For starters, how can you trust a man known to sport a beard like that

We know Joe is Puerto Rican, but guess what...he was born in AMERICA. We then suffered one of the most biased displays of refereeing in the history of sport, dating back to when some Heracles bloke rounded up 12 cavemen to create the Olympics. I'm sure I saw Mayweather sneak him a bung in his back pocket, during their post-match hug-a-thon

TWO indisputable factors in the Hitman's loss. I'd say they cost him the fight to be honest, it looked like a routine victory. I expect most will agree with me, but some will ignore these FACTS [Only registered and activated users can see links]



Umm thats not Joe Cortez.....

TFFP
12-17-2007, 01:15 AM
NEW evidence for the jury to consider:

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Floyd, I'm trying to keep a straight face, I must at least TRY to look impartial

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Ricky, I told you I measured Floyd's reach at 72 inch. About 70 inch longer than his cock. Get within that range and I'll start deducting points

GUILTY as charged

Thom
12-17-2007, 01:23 AM
Umm thats not Joe Cortez.....


:lol:

TFFP
12-17-2007, 01:26 AM
Umm thats not Joe Cortez.....
Don't worry about that

Semantics

Bslice
12-17-2007, 01:43 AM
This is a joke thread obviously

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 01:45 AM
delete

TFFP
12-17-2007, 01:50 AM
What the?

Nobody has even tried to counter my findings yet, which says everything about this fight

Get it back in Manchester or Wembley, with a neutral ref like Dave Parris

Ban Oscar De La Hoya from entering the UK. Stop any shemales at customs, just to be sure

sues2nd
12-17-2007, 02:05 AM
Wow this is up there with the DUMBEST threads in ESB history...seriously....take a bow, that is no small feat!!!

TFFP
12-17-2007, 02:08 AM
Wow this is up there with the DUMBEST threads in ESB history...seriously....take a bow, that is no small feat!!!
Another that gets personal, instead of countering arguments [Only registered and activated users can see links]

brooklyn1550
12-17-2007, 02:08 AM
The only thing responsible for Ricky's loss? FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR

TFFP
12-17-2007, 02:10 AM
The only thing responsible for Ricky's loss? FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR
Bollocks

It could of been me fighting Ricky that night, with the cards so firmly stacked in my favour I would have won. I mean Cortez might as well have left-hooked him, and Ricky's tactics were all wrong thanks to De La Hoya (AMERICAN)

Like I said, get a neutral ref like Dave Parris, and take this fight to England

lillarry
12-17-2007, 02:15 AM
Bollocks

It could of been me fighting Ricky that night, with the cards so firmly stacked in my favour I would have won. I mean Cortez might as well have left-hooked him, and Ricky's tactics were all wrong thanks to De La Hoya (AMERICAN)

Like I said, get a neutral ref like Dave Parris, and take this fight to England

:rofl :rofl

H .
12-17-2007, 02:23 AM
This is a joke thread obviously

:yep

someone's bored

sweetray
12-17-2007, 02:42 AM
:| I think we need to stop ignoring what is right infront of our eyes

I have been searching for reasons as to why Hatton suffered a shock defeat to Mayweather, and it just hit me

A certain Oscar De La Hoya was sighted in Ricky's gym pre-fight, by all accounts giving fraudulent advice. It was sickening to see this sort of behaviour from a respected fighter, using his experience to give Hatton the worst possible tactics, so that he would lose to Mayweather. AMERICAN fighter boosts fellow AMERICANS chances

Next thing we know, this man is appointed ref:
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
For starters, how can you trust a man known to sport a beard like that

We know Joe is Puerto Rican, but guess what...he was born in AMERICA. We then suffered one of the most biased displays of refereeing in the history of sport, dating back to when some Heracles bloke rounded up 12 cavemen to create the Olympics. I'm sure I saw Mayweather sneak him a bung in his back pocket, during their post-match hug-a-thon

TWO indisputable factors in the Hitman's loss. I'd say they cost him the fight to be honest, it looked like a routine victory. I expect most will agree with me, but some will ignore these FACTS [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 02:47 AM
What the?

Nobody has even tried to counter my findings yet, which says everything about this fight

Get it back in Manchester or Wembley, with a neutral ref like Dave Parris

Ban Oscar De La Hoya from entering the UK. Stop any shemales at customs, just to be sure


the word NEUTRAL and the name DAVE PARRIS cant be put in the same sentence

sweetray
12-17-2007, 02:47 AM
:|
When Hatton debuted in USA, He was almost KO by Collaso a fighter
who is not close to Mayweather level.

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:07 AM
the word NEUTRAL and the name DAVE PARRIS cant be put in the same sentence
To the contrary, Dave Parris is a model ref, and the epitomy of neutrality

He doesn't come to be the main attracition. On the tickets it said Hatton vs Mayweather, not Hatton vs Cortez and Mayweather

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 03:15 AM
To the contrary, Dave Parris is a model ref, and the epitomy of neutrality

He doesn't come to be the main attracition. On the tickets it said Hatton vs Mayweather, not Hatton vs Cortez and Mayweather


it also didnt say mayweather vs hatton for the WWE hardcore title

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:18 AM
it also didnt say mayweather vs hatton for the WWE hardcore title
That doesn't make any sense

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, quickly delete it before someone sees it

The point is Mayweather used dirty tactics, using De La Hoya to put Hatton off, and his best mate as referee

Somebody like Dave Parris, would officiate in a fair manner, and give both fighters a chance

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:21 AM
Are you blaming Ricky's loss on Joe Cortez??? Partly Joe Cortez, but Oscar's advice is an understated factor. There are a few other dirty little cheating tactics too

Read my all encompassing initial post for the finer details

Thanks

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 03:25 AM
That doesn't make any sense

I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt, quickly delete it before someone sees it

The point is Mayweather used dirty tactics, using De La Hoya to put Hatton off, and his best mate as referee

Somebody like Dave Parris, would officiate in a fair manner, and give both fighters a chance


i suggest you delete what you typed as it is highly false...you say dave parris who let hatton wrestle tszyu for 11 rds is fair:huh ...its strange that you pick this ref over any other ref that has been in hatton's fights...

PBF used DLH to give ricky false tactics??..lol...first of all without DLH information what exaclty sre ricky's tactics??...

Cortez is pbf's best mate??...lol....and how would dave parris do a better job?...we would be seeing a wrestling match...i payed to see a BOXING MATCH......

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 03:29 AM
Partly Joe Cortez, but Oscar's advice is an understated factor. There are a few other dirty little cheating tactics too

Read my all encompassing initial post for the finer details

Thanks

so dlh would give false advice to the fighter who he is promoting?? why would he do that if it was hatton that won it would set up a huge payday for dlh-hattton fight??
doesnt make sense

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:30 AM
i suggest you delete what you typed as it is highly false...you say dave parris who let hatton wrestle tszyu for 11 rds is fair:huh ...its strange that you pick this ref over any other ref that has been in hatton's fights...

PBF used DLH to give ricky false tactics??..lol...first of all without DLH information what exaclty sre ricky's tactics??...

Cortez is pbf's best mate??...lol....and how would dave parris do a better job?...we would be seeing a wrestling match...i payed to see a BOXING MATCH......
I picked Parris, as I think he is the best I've seen, based on the Tszyu fight. It is uncertain whether there is a better ref in world boxing at the moment

However it doesn't have to be Dave Parris, I'm simply saying he is very good. Any fair referee would be welcome. Dave Parris would be the obvious choice

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Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 03:36 AM
I picked Parris, as I think he is the best I've seen, based on the Tszyu fight. It is uncertain whether there is a better ref in world boxing at the moment

However it doesn't have to be Dave Parris, I'm simply saying he is very good. Any fair referee would be welcome. Dave Parris would be the obvious choice

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oh so the shit hatton did to tszyu was legal??
thats funny you say he is the best..thats probably because he let hatton lowblow,armbar and elbow tszyu right??

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:41 AM
First of all, why would Oscar want Hatton too lose when he was fplanning to fight Oscar for his next fight. Now that Hatton has lost, those palns could be ruined. It doesn't matter who was the ref for that fight, Hatton still loses every single time. I don't think Hatton would throw out his gameplan that Hatton and his trainer put together for the fight and listen to what Oscar says instead, that would be very dumb. The rumours were all a smokescreen, giving Oscar the chance to screw the Brit over, whilst simutaneously participating in a gangbang with Floyd, Uncle Rodge, and that other fat bloke. In his girlfriends clothes, that goes without saying

Like I said, the Americans are out to help each other. I wouldn't be suprised if Oscar just wanted to fight Floyd himself

Ricky is a very trusting character. He thought Oscar was his friend, and was truely helping. But NO, he was let down, stabbed in the back

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:49 AM
How did Oscar let Hatton down? Is this like the WWE and Oscar snuck in the ring and took one of Floyd's belts and hit Hatton in the back of the head when the ref wasn't looking? Your post is making absolutely no sense.
By giving very bad tactics, that Ricky as a trusting man took into the ring. To complete the double whammy, Oscar made sure Cortez was the ref, to destroy Hatton's chances and get himself another shot at Mayweather

In essence, you could say the defeat was down to cheating yanks

Ricky Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather, Manchester, Dave Parris ref. Different story

Cerberus
12-17-2007, 03:50 AM
Bad advice by Oscar? LOL.. wtf did you think Oscar said to him?

Oscar: "Go ahead and lunge in when you throw, Ricky. Floyd will never catch you coming in. Listen to me, not your trainers"

Ricky: "Yes sir, Oscar, sir"

Even if Oscar were plotting against Ricky with bad advice, it's Ricky's own damn fault for taking Oscar's advice over his own trainers. No kind of good advice could've saved Hatton from an assbeating anyway. Ricky's just not on Floyd's level.. remove Ricky's sticky icky man-juice from your lips for a second and you can see that... Ricky's lunging style and Floyd's tactical counterpunch precision.. what the hell else did you think was gonna happen? Learn the damn sport, clown.

K2ray
12-17-2007, 03:53 AM
I think we need to stop ignoring what is right infront of our eyes

I have been searching for reasons as to why Hatton suffered a shock defeat to Mayweather, and it just hit me

A certain Oscar De La Hoya was sighted in Ricky's gym pre-fight, by all accounts giving fraudulent advice. It was sickening to see this sort of behaviour from a respected fighter, using his experience to give Hatton the worst possible tactics, so that he would lose to Mayweather. AMERICAN fighter boosts fellow AMERICANS chances

Next thing we know, this man is appointed ref:
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
For starters, how can you trust a man known to sport a beard like that

We know Joe is Puerto Rican, but guess what...he was born in AMERICA. We then suffered one of the most biased displays of refereeing in the history of sport, dating back to when some Heracles bloke rounded up 12 cavemen to create the Olympics. I'm sure I saw Mayweather sneak him a bung in his back pocket, during their post-match hug-a-thon

TWO indisputable factors in the Hitman's loss. I'd say they cost him the fight to be honest, it looked like a routine victory. I expect most will agree with me, but some will ignore these FACTS [Only registered and activated users can see links]

Another Village Idiot in our midst:patsch

TFFP
12-17-2007, 03:53 AM
I have also heard various rumours from several well placed sources, that Ricky found the beer to be of a shite standard in the US of A. He was rumoured to comment of it "tasting like piss"

This might seem stupid to the casual observer, but this is Ricky's way, his vital fuel for a fight. It is disapointing that yanks would stoop so low as to re-stock Las Vegas supermarkets with poor quality beer

The cheating little tactics are adding up now

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 04:02 AM
How did Oscar let Hatton down? Is this like the WWE and Oscar where Oscar took one of Floyd's belts and snuck into the ring and hit Hatton in the back of the head when the ref wasn't looking? Your post is making absolutely no sense.



:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :good

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 04:03 AM
By giving very bad tactics, that Ricky as a trusting man took into the ring. To complete the double whammy, Oscar made sure Cortez was the ref, to destroy Hatton's chances and get himself another shot at Mayweather

In essence, you could say the defeat was down to cheating yanks

Ricky Hatton vs Floyd Mayweather, Manchester, Dave Parris ref. Different story

the only double whammy was pbf's check hook to hatton's jaw followed by hatton's head into the ring post

TFFP
12-17-2007, 04:04 AM
How did Oscar let Hatton down? Is this like the WWE and Oscar where Oscar took one of Floyd's belts and snuck into the ring and hit Hatton in the back of the head when the ref wasn't looking? Your post is making absolutely no sense.
In a metaphorical sense, that is an apt description

However I will watch the fight again shortly, because I wouldn't be at all suprised if I missed that happening whilst making a cup of tea or grabbing some premium beer

It's not like I would have heard about it on here, such is the pro-Yank bias

Symphenyceo
12-17-2007, 04:06 AM
I have also heard various rumours from several well placed sources, that Ricky found the beer to be of a shite standard in the US of A. He was rumoured to comment of it "tasting like piss"

This might seem stupid to the casual observer, but this is Ricky's way, his vital fuel for a fight. It is disapointing that yanks would stoop so low as to re-stock Las Vegas supermarkets with poor quality beer

The cheating little tactics are adding up now

he shouldnt be drinking while training anyway

TFFP
12-17-2007, 04:07 AM
he shouldnt be drinking while training anyway Ricky is a throw back fighter, none of this sports science rubbish

He enjoys a good beer before getting in the ring, and cheating yanks deprived him of it

Mayweather drinks powerade, Ricky downs a pint. There are many ways to skin a cat

Ziggy Montana
12-17-2007, 06:52 AM
Partly Joe Cortez, but Oscar's advice is an understated factor. There are a few other dirty little cheating tactics too

Read my all encompassing initial post for the finer details

ThanksStraight jacket!

TFFP
12-17-2007, 06:56 AM
Straight jacket!
I like your name, but you are letting yourself down in this thread

Just agree with me and be done with it

ballbag
12-17-2007, 07:04 AM
And to think some say Americans dont understand irony!

1 Hitta Quitta
12-17-2007, 07:13 AM
I think we need to stop ignoring what is right infront of our eyes

I have been searching for reasons as to why Hatton suffered a shock defeat to Mayweather, and it just hit me

A certain Oscar De La Hoya was sighted in Ricky's gym pre-fight, by all accounts giving fraudulent advice. It was sickening to see this sort of behaviour from a respected fighter, using his experience to give Hatton the worst possible tactics, so that he would lose to Mayweather. AMERICAN fighter boosts fellow AMERICANS chances

Next thing we know, this man is appointed ref:
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
For starters, how can you trust a man known to sport a beard like that

We know Joe is Puerto Rican, but guess what...he was born in AMERICA. We then suffered one of the most biased displays of refereeing in the history of sport, dating back to when some Heracles bloke rounded up 12 cavemen to create the Olympics. I'm sure I saw Mayweather sneak him a bung in his back pocket, during their post-match hug-a-thon

TWO indisputable factors in the Hitman's loss. I'd say they cost him the fight to be honest, it looked like a routine victory. I expect most will agree with me, but some will ignore these FACTS [Only registered and activated users can see links]

If Hatton was a real chamipon he would used his own intuiton, common sense and experience instead of taking DLH's advice over his own corners:lol: Thats just ignorant to think Hatton went into this fight discarding his corner and all that training and taking the 30 minute convo he had with DLH as the foundation for his assualt. :patsch

AlonzoGreene
12-17-2007, 11:31 AM
Stop arguing with this idiot TFFP!!! He hasn't said one thing that he can remotely back up. Oscar gave him bad advice? OK then, what advice did he exactly give him then TFFP? LMAO this conspiracy theory. Why don't you blame God too (I think God tipped Floyd that Hatton was about to lunge at him in the 10th)? Arguing with an idiot is pointless because they'll drag you down to their level, then beat you with their experience.

Pimp C
12-17-2007, 11:41 AM
It's not some sort of fucking joke you know

This shit is ruining boxing. I'm never paying to watch a British fighter in America again
I guess Hatton was robbed in his fights with Collazo and JLC both in the US.:lol: Get the fuck outta here.:-(

China_hand_Joe
12-18-2007, 08:03 AM
The illuminatis were behind the conspiracy, China Hand Joe told me. :hop

The illuminati are a decoy organisation, mate.

unitas
12-18-2007, 08:05 AM
It's not some sort of fucking joke you know

This shit is ruining boxing. I'm never paying to watch a British fighter in America again

you are the joke:patsch :patsch

pipe wrenched
12-18-2007, 08:18 AM
This is some silly shit dude, but your hate for ODH is well founded.