Klitschko vs Brewster training and press conference pics...

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Back by popular demand, I am going to be here until a couple days after the Klitschko/Brewster fight to discuss this fight with you guys. You all know that this fight wouldn't be right without me here to feed this disease that we all have to discuss boxing. I will generally post everywhere for this period of time, since a couple days after the fight I will go back and finish my last month of time off, as well as add on the number of days that I came back for this.

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[brooklyn1550]

Happy 4th to you and good to have you back for this fight...

Brewster looks tough as hell
Wlad looks to be in great shape and 100 percent ready

Should make for a great fight

[C Money]

Nice Pics!!

Brewster?? Whats up with the Kimbo Slice look?? Hope he hasnt been working on his Choke submission's:lol:

[PBF P4P #1]

Lamon still has to have confidence left even with the last fight which if healthy he more than likely wins and is still a beltholder

[brooklyn1550]

I wonder what Lamon's weight will be...hopefully its not 235 or above

[ibragimovfan]

oh god brewsters fucked

[Dostoevsky]

Wlad is soooo handsome....:yep

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

From everything that I've heard, Lamon walked into his training camp in great shape before he even started his camp for this fight. So, I am sure that he will be in top form.

[brooklyn1550]

Both respect the hell out of eachother that's for sure...since both know the other has the power to put the hurt on them

[Rudolph]

Is it true or is it rumors?!
Word out Klitschko got knocked out in sparring twice on Monday and Tuesday!

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Is it true or is it rumors?!
Word out Klitschko got knocked out in sparring twice on Monday and Tuesday!
Yea, that makes a lot of sense. I am sure that if he was knocked out once on Monday, that they would still having him sparring on Monday to get knocked out again. Then... of course if he was knocked out twice on Monday they would throw him in some more heating sparring sessions on Tuesday. That makes a lot of sense.

[PBF P4P #1]

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[Rudolph]

i dunno man thats what they saying on a Russian forum someone watched the press conference on TV and thats what they said the voice from the tV did. They also say Lamon said Klitschko still got time to pull out of the fight or he'll get KOd for the third time by him.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

i dunno man thats what they saying on a Russian forum someone watched the press conference on TV and thats what they said the voice from the tV did. They also say Lamon said Klitschko still got time to pull out of the fight or he'll get KOd for the third time by him.
Don't believe everything you hear. It simply doesn't make sense.

[Rudolph]

dont you feel like maybe Brew got Wlads number?
That may very well be the case whether or not he's had problems in sparring

[PBF P4P #1]

dont you feel like maybe Brew got Wlads number?
That may very well be the case whether or not he's had problems in sparring

Brewster is a bad dude....But Wlad seemingly is getting better under the Kronk's watch...Id love to see Lamon with a belt because I think he can hang with everyone in the division as well as anybody else currently in the HW division....however one has to think did Wlad take this fight thinking im getting a rusty fighter coming off a loss and career threatening injury or did he take this fight thinking i need revenge and i can truly beat this guy

i dont think lamon will be short on conditioning or heart or confidence coming in to this one

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

dont you feel like maybe Brew got Wlads number?
That may very well be the case whether or not he's had problems in sparring
No, I don't feel that Brewster has Wlad's number. Also it is obvious that Wladimir hasn't had problems in sparring, as it wouldn't be coming from some poster on a russian forum... it would be everywhere if it had actuall happened. Also, Wladimir's press conference transcript is all over the internet including his site, and it mentions nothing of what you "heard" that it did. Wladimir, his brother, and Manny Steward all agreed that Wladimir training went great and he is at his peak right now. They wouldn't exactly be saying that the day that he was knocked out for the 3rd time in sparring now would they? Also, he is only light training this week... not even sparring so already that doesn't make sense.

[Rudolph]

no question about it. Brewsters said it again "he'd have to kill me". Just like the first time they fought.

I too wonder about Wlads mindset. What is he bringing into this fight. Is it revenge or is it i didnt really want to do it but they said i should...

[Rudolph]

Widdow_Maker, i know theres no sparring normally on the last week of training. Its just confusing you know. That poster is actually from Ukraine, so... i dunno

[Rudolph]

But you know they could say anything on TV. I was watching Eurosports yesterday and the commentator said Jermain Taylor was the guy who KOd Roy Jones Jr...

[Ramon Rojo]

This is going to be an interesting fight.

[smokey]

Widdow_Maker, i know theres no sparring normally on the last week of training. Its just confusing you know. That poster is actually from Ukraine, so... i dunno

Bullshit can come from any corner of the world. I don't think there is any way in hell anyone gets KO'ed 3 times in sparring. Once... maybe. They would send the sparring partner packing, too. A sparring partner is there to help the fighter get his reflexes and timing sharp, not check his chin.

I expect Wlad to stop Brewster this time around. He blew his wad too early in the first fight, and I think he's progressed a lot since then.

[Rudolph]

i feel this fight is not about skill at all. its about guts. thats why im wondering so much about Wlads motivation - WHY is he doing this rematch.

[Scar]

i feel this fight is not about skill at all. its about guts. thats why im wondering so much about Wlads motivation - WHY is he doing this rematch.

Because he wants to avenge a loss?
Many seem to forget that Wladimir floored Brewster in that first fight and was very close to stopping him but ran out of gas in the process. Wladimir has improved a lot since and will KO Brewster within 6 rounds of brutal action.

[Rudolph]

that would be great if thats his REAL motivation. its just that ive got this funny stomack feeling that he's too nice a guy. he better not be taking this fight as a boxing match. Cause Brewsters taking him to war. I wish he would wack Brewster as hard as he can as soon as he can be it the opening seconds of the first round even. Because if he's planning on boxing him calmly that just aint gonna work.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

that would be great if thats his REAL motivation. its just that ive got this funny stomack feeling that he's too nice a guy. he better not be taking this fight as a boxing match. Cause Brewsters taking him to war. I wish he would wack Brewster as hard as he can as soon as he can be it the opening seconds of the first round even. Because if he's planning on boxing him calmly that just aint gonna work.
Brewster isn't going to be dictating this fight though. Wladimir and his jab are. Brewster can want to go to war all he wants, but if he can't get past Wlad's jab, then the only person he will be at war with is himself. Wladimir's movement and jab are going to be setting the pace of this fight. It will be his pinpoint power punching set up by that jab that ends the fight.

Of course Brewster is always going to be dangerous to anyone that he faces, and has the ability to turn fights around with one great shot... but that doesn't mean skill is out the window. If you go into a fight with him under that mindset, then you have already lost. Wladimir is going to stick to his game, which up until he gassed out against Brewster the first time was more than enough.

[Rudolph]

i dont mean throwing a thousend power punches in a desperate attempt to get him outta there as quick as possible. i mean smart punching but hard punching. Brewsters got to realise from the first minute that if he pushes to hard he's gone end up lying flat on the floor. No pitty-pat jabs and running around throwing light punches.

[Amsterdam]

Brewster's cooked guys, he's taken x amount of brutal beatings and looks like shit right now.

This is a payday for Brewster and a perfect way for Wlad to avenge a fluke loss, Wlad in 4 rounds, Brewster's punch resistance has slipped also.

Of course, you'll see a ton of people impressed when Wlad takes this guy out relatively early and with ease, but it's the most realistic thing to happen actually.

[smokey]

I think brewster has come a long way as well. He's been off for a while, but I don't think he even took boxing seriously before his first fight with Wlad. In fact I feel he's one of the best athletes in the division and he has proved with his knockout of golota and going the distance with one eye against the white wolf. Wlad I dont had as much room for improvement after that fight since he'd been fighting as a pro for so long. You can't teach heart and chin and I donj't think Wlad has either. The only three big punches hes been hit with all sent him to the canvas since his fight with brewster. All three by peter, who would beat him in a rematch

I don't think Wlad got hit clean by Peter, and I don't think being hurt is what put him down. I think he took knockdowns for FEAR of taking a solid punch... definitely 2 of the knockdowns were not from clean blows. Who knows, if Brewster can put pressue on him, be might go into freakout mode again.

I'll be watching the fight. I have tons of respect for Brewster, but I just can't see him winning this fight. He definitely has toughness and heart in spades.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I think brewster has come a long way as well. He's been off for a while, but I don't think he even took boxing seriously before his first fight with Wlad. In fact I feel he's one of the best athletes in the division and he has proved with his knockout of golota and going the distance with one eye against the white wolf. Wlad I dont had as much room for improvement after that fight since he'd been fighting as a pro for so long. You can't teach heart and chin and I donj't think Wlad has either. The only three big punches hes been hit with all sent him to the canvas since his fight with brewster. All three by peter, who would beat him in a rematch
:rofl Ahhh... statements like this always makes me wonder why I miss this place so much. Those three huge punches by Peter were all knockdowns right? And they were the only 3 big punches that he has taken since he fought Brewster?

How about the FACT, that everyone knows only one of the knockdowns against Peter was actually legit? How about the fact that the biggest punches that Peter landed never put Wlad down or even hurt him when they fought. How about the fact that Wladimir has had 6 fights since he fought Brewster... and you are trying to tell people that he has only been hit hard 3 times in those 6 fights?:lol: Hell... Wlad must be the best defensive fighter of all time!

[PBF P4P #1]

Brewster's cooked guys, he's taken x amount of brutal beatings and looks like shit right now.

This is a payday for Brewster and a perfect way for Wlad to avenge a fluke loss, Wlad in 4 rounds, Brewster's punch resistance has slipped also.

Of course, you'll see a ton of people impressed when Wlad takes this guy out relatively early and with ease, but it's the most realistic thing to happen actually.

No way Brewster is cooked...He fought without vision in one of his eyes and still almost pulled it off...Brewster has been threw less beatings than Wlad, and has showed more heart when tested with such a fighter....I love Wlad's skill and size in the HW division but one thing remains true with Klitschko - IT ONLY TAKES ONE GOOD SHOT.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

No way Brewster is cooked...He fought without vision in one of his eyes and still almost pulled it off...Brewster has been threw less beatings than Wlad, and has showed more heart when tested with such a fighter....I love Wlad's skill and size in the HW division but one thing remains true with Klitschko - IT ONLY TAKES ONE GOOD SHOT.
That can be said about any boxer when he is fighting a power puncher.... but still.....When did it only take one good shot against Wladimir?

[PBF P4P #1]

That can be said about any boxer when he is fighting a power puncher.... but still.....When did it only take one good shot against Wladimir?

You know as well as I do that when that good shot lands he is not the same....Sanders got him with the first one and he was wondering around getting pummelled for two rounds....Brewster caught him and he stumbled around and ended up getting leveled at the bell and having no clue of where he was at.....Did he get up from the shots? YES...Was he able to recover from the shots? NO....This means you can land that good shot and affect him for a good period of time....

Did he hang in with Peter? Yeah but those were more pushes behind the head and not a true test of the chin....

Should Wlad win? YES....Do I think he will win? YES....I'm just saying I would never put my $$$ on him because if that left hook lands and sends him down queer street I don't know if he will fight back or wonder around lost until he gets finished off.

[Prime Director]

If Manny uses the blueprint from Lewis vs Tua it should be an easy fight.

[Scar]

You know as well as I do that when that good shot lands he is not the same....Sanders got him with the first one and he was wondering around getting pummelled for two rounds....Brewster caught him and he stumbled around and ended up getting leveled at the bell and having no clue of where he was at.....Did he get up from the shots? YES...Was he able to recover from the shots? NO....This means you can land that good shot and affect him for a good period of time....

Did he hang in with Peter? Yeah but those were more pushes behind the head and not a true test of the chin....

Should Wlad win? YES....Do I think he will win? YES....I'm just saying I would never put my $$$ on him because if that left hook lands and sends him down queer street I don't know if he will fight back or wonder around lost until he gets finished off.

You make a very good point there about Wladimir being hurt and taking a long time to recover after a big blow. Same exact thing happened in the 10th round against Peter, Wladimir was dropped and he just stayed on the ropes for the last 30 seconds totally lost while Peter was throwing, if 1 minute was left instead of 30 seconds I believe Peter would've finished it that round because Wladimir wasn't doing anything at that point and looked totally exhausted. Above all, very good point.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

You know as well as I do that when that good shot lands he is not the same....Sanders got him with the first one and he was wondering around getting pummelled for two rounds....Brewster caught him and he stumbled around and ended up getting leveled at the bell and having no clue of where he was at.....Did he get up from the shots? YES...Was he able to recover from the shots? NO....This means you can land that good shot and affect him for a good period of time....

Did he hang in with Peter? Yeah but those were more pushes behind the head and not a true test of the chin....

Should Wlad win? YES....Do I think he will win? YES....I'm just saying I would never put my $$$ on him because if that left hook lands and sends him down queer street I don't know if he will fight back or wonder around lost until he gets finished off.Wladimir has had 140 amateur fights, and 51 professional fights. That is 191 fights and he has only been stopped three times. I would say that your theory is obviously not supported by facts.

Against Puritty, he was simply gassed out and was stopped on his feet as he simply couldn't defend himself properly anymore. His own trainer simply stepped in because Wladimir's health was a concern... he wasn't caught with a good shot that turned the fight around at all. He was caught by several shots towards the end of that fight, and in the last round when it was stopped he wasn't even knocked down. He got hit with about a clean 7 punch power combination and took it fine. He simply couldn't fight any longer due to the fact that he blew his wad. It was his 24th fight in a two year span, 6 fight in 6 months, he weighed about 225 pounds and was sick coming into the fight. That sure as hell doesn't have anything to do with one punch being all it took.

Against Sanders.... Sanders can change any fight with any man with just one punch. However, Wlad took several power shots from him before he went down the first time. He also kept getting up to get knocked down 3 more times. So what? It didn't only take one punch, and when you are fighting a dangerous person like Corrie Sanders shit like that can happen. Wlad wasn't prepared for it and he payed the price. Even then... it clearly wasn't just one punch that took Wlad out.

Against Brewster, everyone with a brain saw that Wladimir was finished after that 4th round and Brewster hadn't done shit to him yet. Wlad was gasping for air, and looked like death in that 5th round before Brewster even landed anything. The commentators where even pointing it out before Brewster landed his shots. Then, Brewster landed TWO flush consecutive left hooks in a row... and Wlad didn't drop. Wlad backed to the ropes and took several more shots... and then several more before the round ended. After the bell Brewster was still swinging through with a shot that hit/pushed Wlad in the back of the head... Wlad moved forward and tripped over the ref's legs... and due to his exhaustion he could hardly return to his feet. Where do you get one punch out of that? That was all it took? How about Wladimir being completely exhausted, and Brewster landing several power shots... that is what it took.:good


Even though I completely blew that out of the water... if you still wanted to believe that his only 3 losses were all due to one punch.... then I would still wonder how 3 fights can define a 191 fight amateur and professional career.

[PBF P4P #1]

You make a very good point there about Wladimir being hurt and taking a long time to recover after a big blow. Same exact thing happened in the 10th round against Peter, Wladimir was dropped and he just stayed on the ropes for the last 30 seconds totally lost while Peter was throwing, if 1 minute was left instead of 30 seconds I believe Peter would've finished it that round because Wladimir wasn't doing anything at that point and looked totally exhausted. Above all, very good point.

Yeah I felt the same way about the Peter fight but I gave him the benefit of the doubt for coming back after the 4th or 5th or whenever the behind-the-head shots were landed.

[Scar]

Read fightnews Walso says that brewster beat him 100% fair last time, took Wladdy some time to admit that shit

Yes it did take some time even though on his own website Vitali said this in an interview recently.

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Vitali, we know that you don’t like to forecast. But do you think the fight will end by a knockout?

No one knows what will happen, until the actual fight ends. But considering Wladimir’s and Lamon’s records, where most of their wins came by a knockout, it’s possible to guess, and with certain confidence, that it’s highly unlikely that the fight will go to the judge’s score cards. This fight will end with a knockout.
In this fight Wladimir has a chance to put an end to all the questions about what took place three years ago - did Wlaidmir simply lose the fight or was it due to outside influence

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Wladimir is a class act however and I'm sure he meant what he said anyway, the first fight is history and all the excuses that came after it. Now is the time to concentrate on the rematch.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

You make a very good point there about Wladimir being hurt and taking a long time to recover after a big blow. Same exact thing happened in the 10th round against Peter, Wladimir was dropped and he just stayed on the ropes for the last 30 seconds totally lost while Peter was throwing, if 1 minute was left instead of 30 seconds I believe Peter would've finished it that round because Wladimir wasn't doing anything at that point and looked totally exhausted. Above all, very good point.
Yet, Wlad took the biggest punch that he took in the fight at the end of the 3rd round without being fazed. Also... being badly hurt in the 10th, and coming out fresh legged and boxing Peter's ears off again in the 11th and 12th doesn't exactly show the markings of a person who takes too long to recover. Also, in the 10th round Peter landed several shots, not one. Most of Wlad's problems where due to the punches behind the head which also kicked off the 10th round knockdown.

[Scar]

Yeah I felt the same way about the Peter fight but I gave him the benefit of the doubt for coming back after the 4th or 5th or whenever the behind-the-head shots were landed.

It was in the 5th round and I believe that Wladimir was nailed with a big punch first then Peter continued throwing and the 2nd one came right at the back of the head which put Wladimir down, he didn't seem hurt at all when he got up which proves that it wasn't 100% legit but if you go down after a punch it's a knockdown regardless. The 2nd knockdown was more weird than anything, Peter was charging in and before he lands anything Wladimir slips down. Don't forget that whenever Peter would land anything big Wladimir would give Peter his back and walk away to try and get the referee to break them to give Wladimir room, that was obviously a tactic and as Peter noticed this happening over and over during the fight(which is basically robbing him off any oppurtunity he gets during the fight after eating A LOT of hard jabs and straight rights) so Peter would whack him behind the head in return of Wladimir's own actions. Unfair?, at least I didn't think so.

[PBF P4P #1]

Widdow,

So if Wlad was tired in the 5th against Lamon and got caught what is going to happen if a conditioned Brewster comes in and catches a winded Wlad in the championship rounds?

I never said it is one punch that takes him out, however it is one punch that alters his mindset and gameplan when he is hurt. He is terrible at holding on taking time to recover via clinching, moving etc. He looks completely lost when that good shot lands. You can train and train and train on how to fight but you can't make someone's chin instantly better. Why do you think Steward has him staying at distance, using his size, and clinching? Yes it is certainly effective for him but he also has him doing it because if he trades frequently inside more than not he will be the one getting caught and not recovering.

Like I said before I think your guy will win, but I guarantee to do so he will have to take Lamon's shot and we don't if he can or not.

[Scar]

Yet, Wlad took the biggest punch that he took in the fight at the end of the 3rd round without being fazed. Also... being badly hurt in the 10th, and coming out fresh legged and boxing Peter's ears off again in the 11th and 12th doesn't exactly show the markings of a person who takes too long to recover. Also, in the 10th round Peter landed several shots, not one. Most of Wlad's problems where due to the punches behind the head which also kicked off the 10th round knockdown.

Yes I know that Wladimir took bombs early, I never said he didn't or he can't take it. The reason why he recovered there and avoided not getting stopped is the bell and the 1 minute in between rounds which basically saved him from a possible stoppage.

[Scar]

Widdow,

So if Wlad was tired in the 5th against Lamon and got caught what is going to happen if a conditioned Brewster comes in and catches a winded Wlad in the championship rounds?

I never said it is one punch that takes him out, however it is one punch that alters his mindset and gameplan when he is hurt. He is terrible at holding on taking time to recover via clinching, moving etc. He looks completely lost when that good shot lands. You can train and train and train on how to fight but you can't make someone's chin instantly better. Why do you think Steward has him staying at distance, using his size, and clinching? Yes it is certainly effective for him but he also has him doing it because if he trades frequently inside more than not he will be the one getting caught and not recovering.

Like I said before I think your guy will win, but I guarantee to do so he will have to take Lamon's shot and we don't if he can or not.

I know that this post was to WiDDoW but I'm going to comment about Brewster catching Wladimr in the championship rounds. When Wladimir is hurt, he moves/holds..etc and finds a way to get out of it. Brewster is a horrible finisher in my opinion, just look at the 5th round of the first fight, he had Wladimir DEAD tired and the only punch he landed was the hook which sent Wladimir to the ropes, after Byrd counted that as a knockdown all Brewster did was miss, miss, miss till the bell rang. Like he had a guy TOTALLY defenseless and tired yet he couldn't do anything but land that first hook.

[PBF P4P #1]

Yes I know that Wladimir took bombs early, I never said he didn't or he can't take it. The reason why he recovered there and avoided not getting stopped is the bell and the 1 minute in between rounds which basically saved him from a possible stoppage.

If Wlad had a Great Chin he would have the potential to be up there with the greats.....all the talent is there.....what lacks is the something extra to put him over the top whether its the chin, heart, training, determination, etc....I hope he proves me wrong does work and cleans up the division because god knows boxing and the HW division needs that.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

It was in the 5th round and I believe that Wladimir was nailed with a big punch first then Peter continued throwing and the 2nd one came right at the back of the head which put Wladimir down, he didn't seem hurt at all when he got up which proves that it wasn't 100% legit but if you go down after a punch it's a knockdown regardless. The 2nd knockdown was more weird than anything, Peter was charging in and before he lands anything Wladimir slips down. Don't forget that whenever Peter would land anything big Wladimir would give Peter his back and walk away to try and get the referee to break them to give Wladimir room, that was obviously a tactic and as Peter noticed this happening over and over during the fight(which is basically robbing him off any oppurtunity he gets during the fight after eating A LOT of hard jabs and straight rights) so Peter would whack him behind the head in return of Wladimir's own actions. Unfair?, at least I didn't think so.
Neither knockdown in the 5th was legit. A knockdown due to a haymaker square in the back of the head is not legit. Neither is a push down to an opponent who is still trying to regain his balance from being blasted by a huge power puncher in the brain stem. Even his knockdown in the 10th was kicked off with a big punch to the back of the head, and if you listen closely Lampley points it out and says that if he hurt Wladimir with that shot behind the head we will find out soon... which was seconds before Wladimir fell down in the weird manner that he did. Balance was just gone.

Wladimir was turning his head, WHEN they were clinched. There is nothing wrong with that. Peter knew exactly what he was doing hitting Wlad in the back of the head, and it wasn't Wlad's fault. Peter's gameplan was basically to run into Wlad and throw haymakers... well, what was Wladimir supposed to do? Bump chests with him all night? Or tie that raw puncher up and throw him away? There is no rule against turning your head to the side when in a clinch. Peter was shucking Wladimir to the side with his body and then swinging up and around. It isn't Wlad's fault that Peter couldn't land his shots without being body to body.

Also, what do you mean..."give Peter his back and walk away"... that is a little over dramatic isn't it? He turned his head, and would be pushed around a bit.. but turn his back and walk away every time he was hit?

[PBF P4P #1]

I know that this post was to WiDDoW but I'm going to comment about Brewster catching Wladimr in the championship rounds. When Wladimir is hurt, he moves/holds..etc and finds a way to get out of it. Brewster is a horrible finisher in my opinion, just look at the 5th round of the first fight, he had Wladimir DEAD tired and the only punch he landed was the hook which sent Wladimir to the ropes, after Byrd counted that as a knockdown all Brewster did was miss, miss, miss till the bell rang. Like he had a guy TOTALLY defenseless and tired yet he couldn't do anything but land that first hook.

Exactly Brewster finished terrible that fight and look what STILL happened. Wlad does try to hold I will give you that but obviously it isnt long enough because his attempt too didn't work on Sanders or Brewster. Why didn't it work? Because that one good shot lands and he is lost for rounds.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Widdow,

So if Wlad was tired in the 5th against Lamon and got caught what is going to happen if a conditioned Brewster comes in and catches a winded Wlad in the championship rounds?

I never said it is one punch that takes him out, however it is one punch that alters his mindset and gameplan when he is hurt. He is terrible at holding on taking time to recover via clinching, moving etc. He looks completely lost when that good shot lands. You can train and train and train on how to fight but you can't make someone's chin instantly better. Why do you think Steward has him staying at distance, using his size, and clinching? Yes it is certainly effective for him but he also has him doing it because if he trades frequently inside more than not he will be the one getting caught and not recovering.

Like I said before I think your guy will win, but I guarantee to do so he will have to take Lamon's shot and we don't if he can or not.
You are living in a world that is more than 3 years ago. I agree that Wladimir used to have a problem dealing with adversity in that manner. He admitted that much after his fight with Sanders. For a simple reason, he had never been taught what to do when hurt, and he had never really been hurt. You have to realize when you have a guy that is that size, and that talented... he really doesn't come across adversity all that much. However, since being with Steward all of this time, it is obvious Wladimir has made those adjustments and simply isn't the same fighter that he was 3 years ago. The Peter fight is exactly what he needed to get over the hump.

[boxingcar]

LOL Brewster looks like Kimbo now..

[Scar]

If Wlad had a Great Chin he would have the potential to be up there with the greats.....all the talent is there.....what lacks is the something extra to put him over the top whether its the chin, heart, training, determination, etc....I hope he proves me wrong does work and cleans up the division because god knows boxing and the HW division needs that.

His chin is fine in my opinion, nothing wrong with it despite what idiots say. If he was chinny then he would've gotten knocked out cold once someone catches him, has he ever?, no. As far as heart goes, the man does have heart, if he didn't he would've have gotten up over and over against Sanders and KEPT trying despite losing, same with Brewster. His determination and training speaks for itself, the man LOVES to train.

[PBF P4P #1]

You are living in a world that is more than 3 years ago. I agree that Wladimir used to have a problem dealing with adversity in that manner. He admitted that much after his fight with Sanders. For a simple reason, he had never been taught what to do when hurt, and he had never really been hurt. You have to realize when you have a guy that is that size, and that talented... he really doesn't come across adversity all that much. However, since being with Steward all of this time, it is obvious Wladimir has made those adjustments and simply isn't the same fighter that he was 3 years ago. The Peter fight is exactly what he needed to get over the hump.

Was his first fight with Brewster his first fight with Manny?

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Exactly Brewster finished terrible that fight and look what STILL happened. Wlad does try to hold I will give you that but obviously it isnt long enough because his attempt too didn't work on Sanders or Brewster. Why didn't it work? Because that one good shot lands and he is lost for rounds.
Lost for rounds? Brewster landed a huge shot in the 3rd round that shook Wlad for a second, and Wladimir went right back to pasting the shit out of him for the rest of that round, and brutalized him in the 4th round before completely gassing out. How do you explain that?

He was hurt and put down in the 10th against Peter, and came back to box circles around him in the 11th, trade punches with Peter and hurt him badly in the 12th... how does that support that claim?

TOS put Wlad down with a flash off balance knockdown, but a good shot nonetheless... and Wladimir popped right back up in less than one second and pounded TOS for the rest of that round and fight as well.

Go all the way back to his fight with Pannell when he was caught off balance, but with a big shot and put down... got right back up and destroyed him within the next round as well.

I think that people took that "glass jaw" nonsense from the Sanders fight and have been running with it ever since. Guess what? Brewster could knock Wlad out against Saturday, and it still wouldn't mean that Wlad has a glass jaw. That is what happens when Power punchers exchanges punches.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Was his first fight with Brewster his first fight with Manny?
Yes, and Manny was just a co-trainer, as his conditioning and sparring was run by Fritz for that fight. Manny was steamed because he said Fritz and Wlad's old handlers would only have him spar for 4 high paced rounds.

Since getting with Manny under his full control after that fight.... Wlad spars for over 100 rounds by fight night, and at least 10-12 rounds a time with different partners moving in and out. He said that he taught Wladimir how to think and fight when tired, which is what his past trainers failed to teach him.

[PBF P4P #1]

His chin is fine in my opinion, nothing wrong with it despite what idiots say. If he was chinny then he would've gotten knocked out cold once someone catches him, has he ever?, no. As far as heart goes, the man does have heart, if he didn't he would've have gotten up over and over against Sanders and KEPT trying despite losing, same with Brewster. His determination and training speaks for itself, the man LOVES to train.

All Im saying is he doesnt walk into the ring with the heart and determination of a Holyfield, or intimidate people like Tyson would, he needs that something extra to just come to the ring and people know he is going to win....Peter just ran out of time in my opinion, I want to see Wlad go in and show he can trade and walk through someone's best shot which is something he hasnt always done....the greats dont lose fights to Puritty from training issues, the Brewster work ethic excuse has already came up as well....Im not saying he isnt the most talented HW but I want to see the total package that he could be and we hopefully are starting to see that with Manny around.

To reply to the chin talk, what separates a good chin from a great chin is how one recovers. He has shown problems with that, and they seemingly can not be fixed he can just hope his new style ala Manny improves his chance of not getting caught.

[PBF P4P #1]

Yes, and Manny was just a co-trainer, as his conditioning and sparring was run by Fritz for that fight. Manny was steamed because he said Fritz and Wlad's old handlers would only have him spar for 4 high paced rounds.

Since getting with Manny under his full control after that fight.... Wlad spars for over 100 rounds by fight night, and at least 10-12 rounds a time with different partners moving in and out. He said that he taught Wladimir how to think and fight when tired, which is what his past trainers failed to teach him.

thought so but wasnt sure on that, he will be fine in Manny's hands I just feel like I have been waiting for years for him to turn that corner and dominate the division....Brewster will prove to be a big test that hopefully pushes the chin issue behind him and allows him to clean up the division.

[Rudolph]

If Manny uses the blueprint from Lewis vs Tua it should be an easy fight.

NO!
Tua's biggest weakness came into play against Lewis - his arms are way too short.

Look at Brewster and Wlad standing back to back - their arm length is about the same and Brewster seems to have broader shoulders. There just wont be no way for Wlad to be able to dance circles around Brew and throw safe jabs like Lewis did against Tua. NO WAY.

[Scar]

All Im saying is he doesnt walk into the ring with the heart and determination of a Holyfield, or intimidate people like Tyson would, he needs that something extra to just come to the ring and people know he is going to win....Peter just ran out of time in my opinion, I want to see Wlad go in and show he can trade and walk through someone's best shot which is something he hasnt always done....the greats dont lose fights to Puritty from training issues, the Brewster work ethic excuse has already came up as well....Im not saying he isnt the most talented HW but I want to see the total package that he could be and we hopefully are starting to see that with Manny around.

To reply to the chin talk, what separates a good chin from a great chin is how one recovers. He has shown problems with that, and they seemingly can not be fixed he can just hope his new style ala Manny improves his chance of not getting caught.

Fair enough even though I see it in a different way. I'd rather see him show great defense and avoid taking punches while landing his own instead of taking some to prove he can take it. When you take a punch you know that it only happened because of a mistake you've done.

[maciek4]

Kind of interesting that Wlad despite his chin not being solid choses to face the hardest punchers in the division, Sanders, Brewster, Peter, TOS. Even when he fought journeymen he would face hard punching journemen like Jefferson, Botha, Nicholson.

[sinan58]

thks for pic.

[TanstA]

klitchko gon beat that ass.

[boxingcar]

NO!
Tua's biggest weakness came into play against Lewis - his arms are way too short.

Look at Brewster and Wlad standing back to back - their arm length is about the same and Brewster seems to have broader shoulders. There just wont be no way for Wlad to be able to dance circles around Brew and throw safe jabs like Lewis did against Tua. NO WAY.

Brewster's reach = 77
wlad's reach = 81

Tua = 70
Lennox = 84

Yeah lennox had a huge advantage...

[Rudolph]

im not so sure about 81-77
boxrec could have it wrong. brewsters reach is pretty even with wlads from the look of it.

[Beatboxer]

There will be no collapse this time.

Wlad tko 8

[Mendoza]

I wonder what Lamon's weight will be...hopefully its not 235 or above

Brewster looks a little heavy in those pictures. Brewster was 232 in his last fight. I think he will be 235-240 for this fight. It matters not. This fight isn't going the distance.

[ChrisPontius]

You make a very good point there about Wladimir being hurt and taking a long time to recover after a big blow. Same exact thing happened in the 10th round against Peter, Wladimir was dropped and he just stayed on the ropes for the last 30 seconds totally lost while Peter was throwing, if 1 minute was left instead of 30 seconds I believe Peter would've finished it that round because Wladimir wasn't doing anything at that point and looked totally exhausted. Above all, very good point.

To be fair though, Brewster had taken a shitload of punishment. So much that when the fight was stopped he was broken down so bad that he couldn't even smile or anything when his corner was going crazy. He's not a Tysonesque finished, but those were hellish conditions.

[Butch Coolidge]

Brewster was only effective when Klitschko was exhausted. If Klitschko doesn't mysteriously lose his capacity to regain his energy between rounds like most boxers normally do then Brewster's chances dim quite a bit. I think Klitschko will actually be more effective than he was during rounds one and two in their first encounter except for the entire duration of the fight. He'll have Brew KOed before six rounds.

[RUSKULL]

i feel this fight is not about skill at all. its about guts. thats why im wondering so much about Wlads motivation - WHY is he doing this rematch.

Seems a bit more like wishful thinking on your part. Do you have a source so we all may be enlightened?

Time will tell either way.

[Relentless]

wlad will beat him unless the green man visits, or someone poisons him or if lemon brewster is juicing.

[RUSKULL]

I think brewster has come a long way as well. He's been off for a while, but I don't think he even took boxing seriously before his first fight with Wlad. In fact I feel he's one of the best athletes in the division and he has proved with his knockout of golota and going the distance with one eye against the white wolf. Wlad I dont had as much room for improvement after that fight since he'd been fighting as a pro for so long. You can't teach heart and chin and I donj't think Wlad has either. The only three big punches hes been hit with all sent him to the canvas since his fight with brewster. All three by peter, who would beat him in a rematch

Brewster is better than Peter. He throws his punches faster, more accurately and with better overall technique. Peter isn't much more than an overhyped, crude slugger who targets the back of his opponent's head actually aiming to land rabbit punches. Sam has yet to KO a top 10 HW, Brewster has KO'd 3 including Klitschko, Golota & Krasniqi.

[EpsilonAxis]

They are two titans for sure.

[Relentless]

Brewster is better than Peter. He throws his punches faster, more accurately and with better overall technique. Peter isn't much more than an overhyped, crude slugger who targets the back of his opponent's head actually aiming to land rabbit punches. Sam has yet to KO a top 10 HW, Brewster has KO'd 3 including Klitschko, Golota & Krasniqi.

are you crazy brewster better than peter??

your just saying that to make wlad look better when he beats lemon.

[RUSKULL]

That can be said about any boxer when he is fighting a power puncher.... but still.....When did it only take one good shot against Wladimir?

Exactly, it never takes just one shot vs. Wladimir. He has never been down & out, only TKO'd as in ref stoppage as in the Brewster & Sanders fights or corner stoppage as in the Purrity fight.

Klitschko has a ton of heart to get back up to fight after some of thsoe punches landed, especially vs. Corrie Sanders. Those claiming Wlad hasn't got the heart to compete are full of shit.

[RUSKULL]

are you crazy brewster better than peter??

your just saying that to make wlad look better when he beats lemon.

Why? He already beat Peter didn't he? Your logic sucks.

[Relentless]

Why? He already beat Peter didn't he? Your logic sucks.

he wrestled peter to a ud,

if there was a better referee peter would have definatly got the win.

[Butch Coolidge]

he wrestled peter to a ud,

if there was a better referee peter would have definatly got the win.

Watch the 12th round of Klitschko vs Peter. Peter is out on his feet.

[Sundance]

Has Brewster been to a Bin Laden "training camp"???? Is he a Mussie?


Hope Wlad knocks his block off!!

[RUSKULL]

His chin is fine in my opinion, nothing wrong with it despite what idiots say. If he was chinny then he would've gotten knocked out cold once someone catches him, has he ever?, no. As far as heart goes, the man does have heart, if he didn't he would've have gotten up over and over against Sanders and KEPT trying despite losing, same with Brewster. His determination and training speaks for itself, the man LOVES to train.

Good points. I've been saying that Wlad's chin is underated here for the longest time. How many professional HW's would be able to take those flush shots square on the chin like Wlad did vs. Sanders or Brewster? I'd say half of the current top 10 would've been out cold like Williams was vs. Peter or Audley vs. Skelton.

[RUSKULL]

he wrestled peter to a ud,

if there was a better referee peter would have definatly got the win.

He wrestled his way to a win? :lol:

I guess the "swollen head look" that Peter was sporting after the fight was due to headlocks & choke holds?

A more aggressive Wlad would've followed up after he hurt Peter in the 12th and finished him off, that much is true. The rest of your BS is just that, & sour grapes.

[Relentless]

He wrestled his way to a win? :lol:

I guess the "swollen head look" that Peter was sporting after the fight was due to headlocks & choke holds?

A more aggressive Wlad would've followed up after he hurt Peter in the 12th and finished him off, that much is true. The rest of your BS is just that, & sour grapes.

how many wlads are there?

[MrMagic]

Oh no Lamon looks fat. :huh

[RUSKULL]

NO!
Tua's biggest weakness came into play against Lewis - his arms are way too short.

Look at Brewster and Wlad standing back to back - their arm length is about the same and Brewster seems to have broader shoulders. There just wont be no way for Wlad to be able to dance circles around Brew and throw safe jabs like Lewis did against Tua. NO WAY.

Yes way! Wlad will use his jab to stop Lamon from working his way inside and it will setup his big right and left hook. Wlad is a great finisher but he has to watch out for any last ditch effort by Brewster while he's pounding on him to put him away.

[MrMagic]

I am goin with Brewster till the end, but I have a feeling hes here for the money....

[RUSKULL]

If there would have been a better ref Peter would have gotten dqed.

True. Those rabbit punches were blatant fouls & after a couple of warnings Peter should've been DQ'd a la Golota.

[Relentless]

Brewster is better, as long as Peter hasn´t beaten a legit top10 HW. Right know his call to fame is going the distance with Wlad and losing and winning against a shot, fat mw.

can toney still make middleweight?? didn't he move up in weight along time ago??

isn't byrd a blown up cruiserweight?

whats wlads claim to fame??? beating byrd???

[Relentless]

True. Those rabbit punches were blatant fouls & after a couple of warnings Peter should've been DQ'd a la Golota.

what about all the wrestling wlad done?

[EpsilonAxis]

I can't tell from the pictures, but I've heard before that Lamon was keeping in very good shape even with the layoff. I hope that's true, as he looked fatigued and a bit pudgy against Sergei.

[RUSKULL]

what about all the wrestling wlad done?

Watch the fight again, the clinching wasn't excessive IMO. Wlad was also using a lot of movement to avoid the crude attack of Peter.

[Grabonator]

Brewster looks fat in this pictures, doesnt he??:?

[A-50]

Brewster looks fat in this pictures, doesnt he??:?




I think it is just the clothes. Should be a good fight. Brewster should be made to shave his beard though.

[Grabonator]

I think it is just the clothes. Should be a good fight. Brewster should be made to shave his beard though.

Yes maybe you are right about the clothes part. And i think he will fight shaved, as he always does.

[buddynabuick]

oh god brewsters fucked


Yep. Brewster looks puffed-up. Particularly around the gut area.

[barneyrub]

Klitschko looks more heavily muscled than usual, but despite that it is an easy fight for him. Wlad can only los ethis psychologically which is going to be a factor, he hasnt had to face someone who ha sbeaten him before and he has proved fragile mentally in the past. Therefore I believe it will be an excessive holding and grabbing frenzy until he knocks him out in a ugly fight.

[buddynabuick]

Brewster looks a little heavy in those pictures. Brewster was 232 in his last fight. I think he will be 235-240 for this fight. It matters not. This fight isn't going the distance.


he looks like the pastry puff man.:tired

[Rudolph]

Seems a bit more like wishful thinking on your part. Do you have a source so we all may be enlightened?

Time will tell either way.

hey buddy no need for sarcasm im just stating my view on this fight thats all. All Wlads skills went out the window the first time they fought. I feel that the rematch will reach a point when both fighters will have to gut it out to win.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Guys, Brewster doesn't look fat. You can see that he is wearing at least two shirts, and they are giving him that look.

[PolishPummler]

Brewster's career ends with this fight.

[HandsOfGold]

One of the easiest fights to pick this year. Wlad by brutal TKO mid rounds.

[C Money]

I truly believe that the tie-up skills learned and used vs Peter will help Wlad avoid the repeat ending of the first encounter. Wlad was clearly dominating and punishing Lamon the first time before tiring. Just as with Peter, Wlad will tie-up and hold on if Brewster does perhaps stun him with a shot.

I've been saying that this being Brewster's first fight back from a detached retina, doesnt seem wise. There seems to be a good possibility that Lamon could suffer more damage to the eye. If I were Wlad?? I'd use the jab heavily in the first few rounds.

Also let's NOT forget about Wlad's claim he was somehow DRUGGED before hand and how that was responsible for his quick fade and staying on his KNEE.


WLAD BETTER PUT VITALI IN CHARGE OF THE WATER BOTTLE AND ALL INSTRUMENTS USED BY THE CORNER THIS TIME AROUND!!!!!
NO MORE EXCUSES:good

[Butch Coolidge]

:huh I don't remember Klitschko staying on his knee. What I remember is him not being able to make it back to his corner and the referee stopping the fight.

[RUSKULL]

hey buddy no need for sarcasm im just stating my view on this fight thats all. All Wlads skills went out the window the first time they fought. I feel that the rematch will reach a point when both fighters will have to gut it out to win.

I'm not your buddy & if you really heard a rumour on some Russian site I'm sure you'd be able to retrace your steps, find the article & post it.

If you really heard that you would........................so, since you haven't done that chances are you're full of shit! :deal :hi:

[RUSKULL]

Yea Wlad got KO'd in sparring ok. I think you heard it wrong, it was quite the opposite, as you can see in one of the pictures it's Wlad that KO'd his sparring partner and sent through out of the ring, idiot.

From all REAL accounts Wladimir was beating the shit outta some sparring partners..........................the pictures don't lie.

[Heavyrighthand]

The sparring partner who is falling out of the ring is apparently trying to prepare Wlad for either Rahman or Liakhovich, not Brewster.

LOL

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[Darthmage]

some people here defend their favorite fighters too much... I sure as hell am a Wlad fan but man.... sigh.. Im hoping for a great fight.

[franknstein]

best post ever :D

[Rudolph]

I'm not your buddy & if you really heard a rumour on some Russian site I'm sure you'd be able to retrace your steps, find the article & post it.

If you really heard that you would........................so, since you haven't done that chances are you're full of shit! :deal :hi:

geeeeeez everyone is so fragile nowadays! "don't call me buddy, booo-whoooo"...

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or if it dont work go to Allboxing.ru, enter the forum, find thread named "Владимир Кличко vs Леймон Брюстер", open page 159 n read OTTIS' post

grab a dictionary if you need one

and i said it was a Russian forum, not a Russian news site

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

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[Butch Coolidge]

Klitschko fights better when he has a shitty haircut.

[Heavyrighthand]

Wladimir looks as lean as I've ever seen him. Very cut.

[Darthmage]

Wladimir looks as lean as I've ever seen him. Very cut.

I wish i was like that... instead i get to stay at 6' tall 200 lbs and a bum lol.... Oh well... go I wish Wlad the best and I hope he can avenge his defeat. Props to Brewster for taking on the most dangerous man in the division after such a long layoff and not having a tune-up fight.

[Heavyrighthand]

. Props to Brewster for taking on the most dangerous man in the division after such a long layoff and not having a tune-up fight.

:good Indeed.

But I think Brewster knows that he's all but forgotten by the division, and couldnt' let this opportunity to rise again. all the way to the very top if successful, get away.

[Relentless]

lemon looks fat.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Brewster had a long layoff before their first fight too. This layoff will help Brewster, not hurt him.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

IS Joe Calzaghe Welsh???

Yes and widdow is a welsher!!
I was voted back in for this fight by the great posters of ESB, by a landslide. Also, I didn't welch on anything, I will still be gone for 3 months. This fight was not made back when my bet was made over 6 months ago. I even tried to contact the person that I made the bet with, but they no longer post on this site, so they couldn't give me their input. However, even though the poster doesn't even post here anymore, I still honored my bet for the last 2 months, came back for this fight, as it is only right... and will be gone again after the fight.

[Irish Steel]

wait, im new here, what was the bet about?

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

wait, im new here, what was the bet about?
No big deal. A 3 month off the board bet for the Oscar/Mayweather fight. However, the man who I bet against stopped posting here about 3 months before the fight even happened. So, basically it was pointless come fight time. However, to do the "right" thing I have been honoring the bet anyways, besides this week to talk about this fight, since I am a huge Klitschko fan... and then back off to finish the rest along with adding the days that I came back to talk about this fight.

Sidenote... I am doing the right thing even though the poster that no longer posts here welched on my last bet that I won against him, where he refused to use the avatar that I chose for him.

So basically... I am going above and beyond to honor a bet against a guy who not only doesn't post here anymore... but also welched on my previous bet with him.

[C Money]

:huh I don't remember Klitschko staying on his knee. What I remember is him not being able to make it back to his corner and the referee stopping the fight.

He stayed on one knee looking at the ref while getting counted out. he may have risen just before the 10 count, cant remember quite that clearly. Essentially, Wlad quit.

[Brent]

Bullshit can come from any corner of the world. I don't think there is any way in hell anyone gets KO'ed 3 times in sparring. Once... maybe. They would send the sparring partner packing, too. A sparring partner is there to help the fighter get his reflexes and timing sharp, not check his chin.

I expect Wlad to stop Brewster this time around. He blew his wad too early in the first fight, and I think he's progressed a lot since then.

Agreed 100%.

[C Money]

Wlado admitted on the recent fightnews interview that he lost fair and square


I missed that:hey Good for WLAD, as i found the theory to be more excuse than reality.

[MrMagic]

No big deal. A 3 month off the board bet for the Oscar/Mayweather fight. However, the man who I bet against stopped posting here about 3 months before the fight even happened. So, basically it was pointless come fight time. However, to do the "right" thing I have been honoring the bet anyways, besides this week to talk about this fight, since I am a huge Klitschko fan... and then back off to finish the rest along with adding the days that I came back to talk about this fight.

Sidenote... I am doing the right thing even though the poster that no longer posts here welched on my last bet that I won against him, where he refused to use the avatar that I chose for him.

So basically... I am going above and beyond to honor a bet against a guy who not only doesn't post here anymore... but also welched on my previous bet with him.

Welcome back

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

He stayed on one knee looking at the ref while getting counted out. he may have risen just before the 10 count, cant remember quite that clearly. Essentially, Wlad quit.
WHAT?:lol: You obviously don't remember it quite clearly... because there was no count at all... there was no knockdown as he simply fell down after the bell. You are making no sense at all.

Wlad quit? He was up on his feet when the ref called the fight off, trying to get back to his corner.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Welcome back
Thanks.

[LennoxGOAT]

He stayed on one knee looking at the ref while getting counted out. he may have risen just before the 10 count, cant remember quite that clearly. Essentially, Wlad quit.


:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't talk about something you clearly did not watch.

[Fighting Weight]

No big deal. A 3 month off the board bet for the Oscar/Mayweather fight. However, the man who I bet against stopped posting here about 3 months before the fight even happened. So, basically it was pointless come fight time. However, to do the "right" thing I have been honoring the bet anyways, besides this week to talk about this fight, since I am a huge Klitschko fan... and then back off to finish the rest along with adding the days that I came back to talk about this fight.

Sidenote... I am doing the right thing even though the poster that no longer posts here welched on my last bet that I won against him, where he refused to use the avatar that I chose for him.

So basically... I am going above and beyond to honor a bet against a guy who not only doesn't post here anymore... but also welched on my previous bet with him.

I notice you fail to bring up the previous ban bets you welched on, by using alias's :deal

Welcome back anyway, enjoy the fight.

[Relentless]

i understand that you want to come back for this fight but whats the point of all the stupid excuses?? i lost the same bet but you didn't see me not go through with it because radar stopped posting.

[C Money]

WHAT?:lol: You obviously don't remember it quite clearly... because there was no count at all... there was no knockdown as he simply fell down after the bell. You are making no sense at all.

Wlad quit? He was up on his feet when the ref called the fight off, trying to get back to his corner.


I'll have to see if i still have that fight and check. I didnt say anything about a KD, but I do remember him on one knee looking as though he didnt want to continue. Check the meaning of essentially and then tell me about NO SENSE.:good

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I'll have to see if i still have that fight and check. I didnt say anything about a KD, but I do remember him on one knee looking as though he didnt want to continue. Check the meaning of essentially and then tell me about NO SENSE.:good
uhhhh... you were talking about whether or not he beat the 10 count, what the hell do you mean you didn't say anything about a knockdown? What other sort of 10 count are you talking about? Are you saying that the ref was counting to 10, threatening Wlad to get back to his corner?:lol:

[C Money]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Don't talk about something you clearly did not watch.

I watched the fight, Wlad was winning, faded fast, and was on one knee looking as though he didnt want to continue.

Not sure where you get off saying I didnt, but hey..:finger

[DoumB]

I think brewster has come a long way as well. He's been off for a while, but I don't think he even took boxing seriously before his first fight with Wlad. In fact I feel he's one of the best athletes in the division and he has proved with his knockout of golota and going the distance with one eye against the white wolf. Wlad I dont had as much room for improvement after that fight since he'd been fighting as a pro for so long. You can't teach heart and chin and I donj't think Wlad has either. The only three big punches hes been hit with all sent him to the canvas since his fight with brewster. All three by peter, who would beat him in a rematch

then my friend ur simply a Klit hater .

[C Money]

uhhhh... you were talking about whether or not he beat the 10 count, what the hell do you mean you didn't say anything about a knockdown? What other sort of 10 count are you talking about? Are you saying that the ref was counting to 10, threatening Wlad to get back to his corner?:lol:

Wlad went down to a knee, whether on his own or by a punch, there's a COUNT. Unless a fighter flat out tells the ref, HE QUITS.

Now, I said that my memory was perfectly clear but I do remember him on his knee looking as though he wanted to QUIT. Essentially, he did and later CLIAMED HE WAS DRUGGED.

Someone else pointed out that he retracted that recently and good for Wlad.

[Butch Coolidge]

I watched the fight, Wlad was winning, faded fast, and was on one knee looking as though he didnt want to continue.

Not sure where you get off saying I didnt, but hey..:finger

No. Anybody in doubt youtube it. The ref waved the fight off after the round was finished because of how unresponsive Klitschko was. A count was not involved.

[MrMagic]

This drug story is getting really annoying, just shut the fuck up and watch a good fight will you?

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

Wlad went down to a knee, whether on his own or by a punch, there's a COUNT. Unless a fighter flat out tells the ref, HE QUITS.

Now, I said that my memory was perfectly clear but I do remember him on his knee looking as though he wanted to QUIT. Essentially, he did and later CLIAMED HE WAS DRUGGED.

Someone else pointed out that he retracted that recently and good for Wlad.
:rofl :rofl You really don't know what you are talking about. There was a count? After the round was over?:lol:

[Fighting Weight]

:rofl :rofl You really don't know what you are talking about. There was a count? After the round was over?:lol:

So what really happened was that the red saw that WALDO was so fucked up after taking a couple of left hooks that it was pointless even giving him a minutes rest cos he was done :good

[Primadonna Kool]

Has Brewster been to a Bin Laden "training camp"???? Is he a Mussie?


Hope Wlad knocks his block off!!

Lamon Brewster has caught some Muslim Fever. Its all the range these days. Lamon "Muslim Fever" Brewster.

[Heavyrighthand]

Lamon Brewster has caught some Muslim Fever. Its all the range these days. Lamon "Muslim Fever" Brewster.

:lol:

[Mr "T"]

:lol:
Alot of members will be silent after this fight. Wlad will KO Brew in 7.

[DoumB]

So what really happened was that the red saw that WALDO was so fucked up after taking a couple of left hooks that it was pointless even giving him a minutes rest cos he was done :good

huhuhuhuh mr I hate Klits

[C Money]

:rofl :rofl You really don't know what you are talking about. There was a count? After the round was over?:lol:

Ok, I just rewatched it and yes the bell rang. The ref wasnt counting, but he actually should have been because he went down after Brewster threw a combo at the bell, and Wlad fell. That could have very easily been called a KD.

Lo and BEHOLD, Wlad got to his KNEE and paused LOOKING AS THOUGH HE DIDNT WANT TO CONTINUE, just as I said and REMEMBERED. No way to know what Wlad said, if anything to the ref, but after Wlad got up the ref waived it off.

You are carrying on about this in ridiculous fashion and it PROVES JACK SHIT!!!. I stated that I didnt CLEARLY remember every exact second of the ending, BUT I DID remember Wlad on his KNEE!! IMO he could have made more effort, and the ref may not have stopped the fight. IMO, Wlad essentially QUIT with his behavior after going down. Now, none of us were the one taking the shots and perhaps Wlad was hurt enough NOT to continue. Yet, I've seen more heart and will displayed by many fighter's and seen fights CONTINUE after fighters being hurt worse than that. Especially, when a fighter is AT the end of the round and has some time to recover.

So mr. Widow maker, TAKE your:rofl :rofl :rofl :lol: :lol: :lol: and go fly a KITE. Hope you find it as INSPIRATIONAL as one Ben Franklin:good

[cuchulain]

So what really happened was that the red saw that WALDO was so fucked up after taking a couple of left hooks that it was pointless even giving him a minutes rest cos he was done :good


The ref should not have stopped the fight. He tripped a weary Wlad (albeit accidentally) and then stopped the fight because Wlad looked bushed. It was right after the bell and so he should have had his minute to recover.

However IMO, if the next round had started, Wlad did not look like he could recover in time and would almost certainly have gotten KOd (For real, with a 10 count,) so the result was probably unaffected. But stranger things have happened in 60 seconds. Witness Corales - Castillo.


The result would probably not have changed.

Still, the fight should have continued.

[C Money]

The ref should not have stopped the fight. He tripped a weary Wlad (albeit accidentally) and then stopped the fight because Wlad looked bushed. It was right after the bell and so he should have had his minute to recover.

However IMO, if the next round had started, Wlad did not look like he could recover in time and would almost certainly got KOd (For real, with a 10 count,) so the result was probably unaffected. Stranger things have happened in 60 seconds. Witness Corales - Castillo.


The result would probably not have changed.

Still, the fight should have continued.

IMO, had Wlad behaved as if he WANTED to, it would have:good

[cuchulain]

IMO, had Wlad behaved as if he WANTED to, it would have:good


If he had Angelo Dundee in his corner, the KO would probably have come a round later (but there's a tiny chance he would have recovered.)

[C Money]

If he had Angelo Dundee in his corner, the KO would probably have come a round later (but there's a tiny chance he would have recovered.)

I wasnt speculating on the result, just that Wlad appeared to not want to continue.

[Mr "T"]

then my friend ur simply a Klit hater .
Keep jacking off my friend, your kind of explanation has to be suspect because you won't let your small dick recover from all the sexy boxing photos.:hey Sorry I had to crude.

[Shadows]

Brewster will try to hard and be to sure that he will get the KO in the first rounds.This will tire hime out after the 3 rd Wlad will start to tag him good in the 5 th he will drop him and knock Brewster out in the 6 th round.

[cuchulain]

Keep jacking off my friend, your kind of explanation has to be suspect because you won't let your small dick recover from all the sexy boxing photos.:hey Sorry I had to crude.


What I'm wondering is why you claim to be so familiar with the dimensions of Doumb's intimate apparatus, and why you find these pics so sexy?

Is there someting in your make-up you that you haven't been telling us about?

[maciek4]

[Only registered and activated users can see links] not so sure about 81-77
boxrec could have it wrong. brewsters reach is pretty even with wlads from the look of it.

Brewsters arm on top of wlad's.

[Ion85]

You are living in a world that is more than 3 years ago. I agree that Wladimir used to have a problem dealing with adversity in that manner. He admitted that much after his fight with Sanders. For a simple reason, he had never been taught what to do when hurt, and he had never really been hurt. You have to realize when you have a guy that is that size, and that talented... he really doesn't come across adversity all that much. However, since being with Steward all of this time, it is obvious Wladimir has made those adjustments and simply isn't the same fighter that he was 3 years ago. The Peter fight is exactly what he needed to get over the hump.

He had never been taught what to do when he got hurt?

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

Thats basic boxing, every boxer has been hurt at some point, whether it be in sparring or in a fight. You either are able ot weather it or you get laid out. Wlad got laid the fuck out. It had nothing to do with the fact that he didn't know what to do. That kind of bullshit excuse making is taking the credit away from his opponent and show that your're a true Wlad fanboy.

Are you suggesting that he never got hurt pro or amatuer up to that point? What kind of a dream world are you living in?

This man was a gold medalist, he has faced adversity before and has been hurt prior to that. He just got his ass kicked, plain and simple.

Now get off your knee's and take his dick out of your stupid mouth.

[maciek4]

He had never been taught what to do when he got hurt?

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

Thats basic boxing, every boxer has been hurt at some point, whether it be in sparring or in a fight. You either are able ot weather it or you get laid out. Wlad got laid the fuck out. It had nothing to do with the fact that he didn't know what to do. That kind of bullshit excuse making is taking the credit away from his opponent and show that your're a true Wlad fanboy.

Are you suggesting that he never got hurt pro or amatuer up to that point? What kind of a dream world are you living in?

This man was a gold medalist, he has faced adversity before and has been hurt prior to that. He just got his ass kicked, plain and simple.

Now get off your knee's and take his dick out of your stupid mouth.

When has he faced adversity? What fight? he had never faced adversity before. The same with Mike Tyson when he fought Holyfield, he was experienced and everything but he didnt know what to do when Holyfield took all of his best shots and kept punching and kept putting the pressure on Tyson and that was experienced Tyson when he fought Holyfield.

[Ion85]

When has he faced adversity? What fight? he had never faced adversity before. The same with Mike Tyson when he fought Holyfield, he was experienced and everything but he didnt know what to do when Holyfield took all of his best shots and kept punching and kept putting the pressure on Tyson and that was experienced Tyson when he fought Holyfield.

Tyson lost to Douglas before he lost to Holyfield, so what point are you trying to make? Tyson already lost and had faced adversity prior to Holyfield, Holyfield just whipped his ass.

Again what is your point?

[oblate]

dont you feel like maybe Brew got Wlads number?
That may very well be the case whether or not he's had problems in sparring
I don't understand how anyone can say brewster has wlads number. He won the first fight true but it's not like he won because his style gave wlad trouble and brewster outclassed him. Brewster was taking a beating until wlad gassed and brewster knocked him out. All wlad has to do is not gass out and the fight is in the bag.

[Ion85]

I don't understand how anyone can say brewster has wlads number. He won the first fight true but it's not like he won because his style gave wlad trouble and brewster outclassed him. Brewster was taking a beating until wlad gassed and brewster knocked him out. All wlad has to do is not gass out and the fight is in the bag.

He also has to stay away from Brewsters bombs.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

He had never been taught what to do when he got hurt?

GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!

Thats basic boxing, every boxer has been hurt at some point, whether it be in sparring or in a fight. You either are able ot weather it or you get laid out. Wlad got laid the fuck out. It had nothing to do with the fact that he didn't know what to do. That kind of bullshit excuse making is taking the credit away from his opponent and show that your're a true Wlad fanboy.

Are you suggesting that he never got hurt pro or amatuer up to that point? What kind of a dream world are you living in?

This man was a gold medalist, he has faced adversity before and has been hurt prior to that. He just got his ass kicked, plain and simple.

Now get off your knee's and take his dick out of your stupid mouth.
Are you crying?

I simply look at the facts. What Wlad did before he got with Steward when he was hurt... and what Wlad does now. We saw against Peter that he was able to fully recover and box Peter's ears off... yet we saw in the past that he completely lost control.... end of story.

[maciek4]

Tyson lost to Douglas before he lost to Holyfield, so what point are you trying to make? Tyson already lost and had faced adversity prior to Holyfield, Holyfield just whipped his ass.

Again what is your point?

Yes Tyson had lost to Douglas and he has faced this kind of adversity for the first time as well but Holyfield was different from Douglas, different kind of adversity which Tyson hadnt experienced yet. These guys are world class and the best in the world, why do you think they face adversity when sparring? They dont spar with world champs, they spar with lesser fighters. In the beginning of their careers they face weak opposition then journeymen, they usually KO them in a few rounds, only late in their careers they actually face adversity and Wlad experienced this kind of adversity for the first time.

[achillesthegreat]

When a Godly man but has that possessed look like Brewster, you know he means business.

[billybadazzy2k]

Heart of a champion, the lion returns, under great odds as in the first fight....I just hope both men come out of the fight healthy. Is Vilali gonna be a tag team partner for Vlad so he can knock both kilts out and get it over with. Lamon lost alot of weight fast I hope his energy level matches his heart. As far as muscle, it can have adverse effects in boxing. GO TEAM BREWSTER:thumbsup

[BoxingGuru]

Scam Cheater cheated and still couldn't put Wlad down legitimately. I don't know what more proof we need that this guy is a joke and Wlad simply owned his ass for 12 rounds straight. If it wouldn't have been for all the behind the head punches Scam Cheater would have been knocked out by the 5th round.

Wlad TKO 5 Brewster.