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cross_trainer
06-17-2007, 11:19 AM
Who wins?

ChrisPontius
06-17-2007, 12:37 PM
Ibeabuchi by KO under 8.

Rattler
06-17-2007, 01:33 PM
Ibeatahoochie by KO-3

Muchmoore
06-17-2007, 04:16 PM
Ike by early KO.

Ramon Rojo
06-17-2007, 04:18 PM
Ikea by KO

punchy
06-17-2007, 08:21 PM
early ko ike

PowerPuncher
06-19-2007, 06:59 PM
ike

JaRulez
06-27-2007, 11:40 PM
Ibeabuchi by 6th round TKO.

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Bad_Intentions
06-28-2007, 12:10 AM
ike KO round 10th

Thinman
06-28-2007, 12:57 AM
Patterson with his charisma. :D

Dostoevsky
06-28-2007, 02:13 AM
Ike by KO1.
And I'm not overexaggerating or being silly. I'm serious.

Ike would brutally knock Floyd into next week in the 1st round.

Dempsey1238
06-28-2007, 02:22 AM
Boy more and more Ike is getting overrated. First people have him knockout a all time great like Marciano, now Patterson. Whats next?? Ike koing Ali?

JERMZ BOXING
06-28-2007, 02:26 AM
come on...is this how you respect the dead?? ike by 5 tko

jyuza
06-28-2007, 03:46 AM
At least we all agree on Ike by KO.

I would say KO in the 1st round.

Holmes' Jab
06-28-2007, 03:57 AM
I like Patterson and he truely is an under-apreciated champ. Given his average chin, though this matchup spells potential distaster for him. Despite having the superior skills he wouldn't have the punch resistance to hold off Ike

Ibeabuchi TKO5 Patterson

young griffo
06-28-2007, 04:37 AM
Ibeabuchi's no Liston so I don't see a first round KO,but an early stoppage is a distinct possibility if Floyd doesn't utilize his underrated boxing skills and exceptional handspeed.

I recall Byrd managed to score regularly and their fight was close to even on the cards before Ike flattened him,and I think Floyd had better handspeed and power than Chris and if he fought smart ,moving in and out and keeping away from Ibeabuchi's dynamite left,he could conceivably box to a points victory.But that's if he fought smart.

Not sure about this but I'll lean towards Ibeabuchi even though he was still to prove himself against the true elite and will forever remain an unknown quantity.

Boilermaker
06-28-2007, 05:14 AM
NOt one single win for Floyd? You guys are kidding.

Many people rate Floyd Patterson as faster than Ali. How is Ike's chin going to stand up when it is being popped consistently from all angles. Ike caught Byrd admittedly, who was a good quick fighter, but byrd is a long way down from Floyd in all respects. And Byrd stands square trying to catch punches, he doesnt move in and out like Floyd. Ike has the obvious punchers chance, but how does someone who cant catch Marion Wilson catch floyd patterson? And dont think that anything other than flush will KO floyd either. Floyd went the distance with the big hitters like of Machen, quarry, bonavena, chuvalo, cooper and he did knock out the Hammer twice as well KOing the resilient Archie Moore. The losses first time round to Inga and LIston look bad, but dont forget that Liston in particular may very well do the same to Ike. There is quite possibly a big class difference there (Although ike is largely unproven so noone really knows.)

Anyway, Patterson hits ike too often and reduces him to going for the big knockout. I say Patterson KO 10.

brownpimp88
06-28-2007, 11:36 PM
Ibeabuchi's no Liston so I don't see a first round KO,but an early stoppage is a distinct possibility if Floyd doesn't utilize his underrated boxing skills and exceptional handspeed.

I recall Byrd managed to score regularly and their fight was close to even on the cards before Ike flattened him,and I think Floyd had better handspeed and power than Chris and if he fought smart ,moving in and out and keeping away from Ibeabuchi's dynamite left,he could conceivably box to a points victory.But that's if he fought smart.

Not sure about this but I'll lean towards Ibeabuchi even though he was still to prove himself against the true elite and will forever remain an unknown quantity.
Beating david tua and chris byrd at heavyweight is more impressive than patterson beating a 43 year old archie moore.

Senya13
06-29-2007, 12:14 AM
Ibeabuchi KO1 Patterson.

young griffo
06-29-2007, 01:24 AM
Beating david tua and chris byrd at heavyweight is more impressive than patterson beating a 43 year old archie moore.
No it's not.
Moore's an all time great fighter but not only did Floyd whip him he also beat good fighters like Eddie Machen,Ingemar Johannsen,Henry Cooper,George Chuvalo,drew with Jerry Quarry and was arguably robbed against Jimmy Ellis.

Aside from Tua and Byrd who did Ibeabuchi beat.....the answer is nobody.

And let's be honest Byrd and Tua are nothing special either.Byrd is a good fighter but has only ever held alphabet belts and was never once remotely considered the best in the division.Tua is tough and powerful but limited against decently skilled fighters and has never even been able to win an alphabet title in an age when guys like Ruiz,Valuev,Rahman,Maskaev,Botha,and even little Roy Jones have.

We'd know a lot more about Ibeabuchi if he'd met Lewis,Holyfield or even a mid 90's Tyson but he didn't so he remains hard to rank against other proven fighters I think.

brownpimp88
06-29-2007, 01:58 AM
No it's not.
Moore's an all time great fighter but not only did Floyd whip him he also beat good fighters like Eddie Machen,Ingemar Johannsen,Henry Cooper,George Chuvalo,drew with Jerry Quarry and was arguably robbed against Jimmy Ellis.

Aside from Tua and Byrd who did Ibeabuchi beat.....the answer is nobody.

And let's be honest Byrd and Tua are nothing special either.Byrd is a good fighter but has only ever held alphabet belts and was never once remotely considered the best in the division.Tua is tough and powerful but limited against decently skilled fighters and has never even been able to win an alphabet title in an age when guys like Ruiz,Valuev,Rahman,Maskaev,Botha,and even little Roy Jones have.

We'd know a lot more about Ibeabuchi if he'd met Lewis,Holyfield or even a mid 90's Tyson but he didn't so he remains hard to rank against other proven fighters I think.
It doesnt matter if archie moore is an all time great, he was 43 and blown up. You wanna say tua and byrd are nothing special, well last time i checked, the guys patterson beat aint all that either. Head to head, ike would have knocked him out.

young griffo
06-29-2007, 02:12 AM
It doesnt matter if archie moore is an all time great, he was 43 and blown up. You wanna say tua and byrd are nothing special, well last time i checked, the guys patterson beat aint all that either. Head to head, ike would have knocked him out.
If you read my first post you'll see I leant towards an Ibeabuchi victory but I was just making the point that it isn't the foregone conclusion that some people here seem to think.
They seem to think just because Liston KO'd Floyd then Ibeabuchi need only show up and he would as well,when in actual fact Liston was in another league as a fighter to Ibeabuchi.

Sizzle
06-29-2007, 04:16 AM
Can't believe the Ike hype.

1/ He is no Liston. Not in any department.

2/ The speed differential between the two would be like a Formula One racecar up against a three year old girl on a tricycle, Patterson would be hitting Ike faster than he thought was humanly possible.

3/ Whenever a fighter has a "suspect" chin, people always assume any fighter thats knocked someone out before can find it. Eventually fighter A will find the chin of fighter B. Eventually Tyson will find Lewis' china chin. This is such a weak argument.

AREA 53
06-29-2007, 08:48 AM
I think Floyd might be packing his fake beard again for this one ?

Minotauro
06-29-2007, 09:04 AM
I think Patterson would win he is much faster and could box Ike, although Patterson would probably get knocked down but get up to win a decision.

Ramon Rojo
06-29-2007, 09:07 AM
Just like Patterson vs Liston or Tyson vs Spinks


Ibchahooch by KO1

Sardu
01-12-2010, 08:25 PM
Ibeabuchi KO 6 against an always game Patterson...

MRBILL
01-12-2010, 08:45 PM
Who wins?

A terrible match....... Cus would NEVER allow Floyd Patterson to face the massive and powerful Ike Ibeabuchi.......... Patterson is a much better person in life and boxing history, but Ike Ibeabuchi beats Patty to death within 5 to 7 rds in a 20 X 20 ring........

MR.BILL

Boxed Ears
01-12-2010, 09:55 PM
The vastly more talented guy gets stomped inside of eight.

The Mongoose
01-12-2010, 11:50 PM
:lol:

Ike beats him with bolts of lighting from his eyes and fireballs from his ass. Does he really bring anything more to the table than fellow underachiving nutjob Hurricane Jackson? No. Get off the crack people, I'm losing more and more respect for this board by the day.

bodhi
01-13-2010, 03:55 AM
Patterson UD12 Ibeabuchi.

Patterson is much faster, far better technical, a far better ring general and he packs enough of a punch to get Ike´s respect. I expect Patterson to use his skills and wit to outbox Ibeabuchi pretty clearly. Patterson might be in for a scary moment or two early in the fight but he has a history of getting up and winning.
Ibeabuchi´s terribly overated on here I must add.

Boxed Ears
01-13-2010, 04:15 AM
Patterson UD12 Ibeabuchi.

Patterson is much faster, far better technical, a far better ring general and he packs enough of a punch to get Ike´s respect. I expect Patterson to use his skills and wit to outbox Ibeabuchi pretty clearly. Patterson might be in for a scary moment or two early in the fight but he has a history of getting up and winning.
Ibeabuchi´s terribly overated on here I must add.

Yeah, because Patterson hits harder than Tua and Tua certainly calmed his ass down and lowered his work rate after a few bombs to get his respect. But, seriously, I know Ike may be getting overrated here but let's keep in mind he had a young career and was still undefeated after Tua and Byrd (taking both their 0s) and we don't know what he could have been. What we do know is that he was a legit HW and Patterson was more of a very gutsy and talented light heavyweight fighting at heavyweight. We know he would get pulled into slug fests and hurt with guys like Tom McNeeley and Ingemar Johansson and I don't see how Ike is less durable than either of those men and he was at least better even at his early stage than McNeeley. I really think he would have knocked Floyd out. Nobody saying Ike is better p4p or anywhere near it either.

frankenfrank
01-13-2010, 05:29 AM
the first page of the thread put it good enough , patterson has no chance here.
not a puncher's chance (tua) not a boxers' chance (byrd).
and btw , i saw tua-ibeabuchi at least 3 times and i am not saying ibeabuchi won , but it was a close fight. fights like this should simply be regarded a clear draw / ND.

frankenfrank
01-13-2010, 05:30 AM
Patterson UD12 Ibeabuchi.

Patterson is much faster, far better technical, a far better ring general and he packs enough of a punch to get Ike´s respect. I expect Patterson to use his skills and wit to outbox Ibeabuchi pretty clearly. Patterson might be in for a scary moment or two early in the fight but he has a history of getting up and winning.
Ibeabuchi´s terribly overated on here I must add.
yet another bad prediction

mcvey
01-13-2010, 07:48 AM
Who wins?

I like Ike ! By late stoppage.

The Mongoose
01-13-2010, 01:26 PM
Yeah, because Patterson hits harder than Tua and Tua certainly calmed his ass down and lowered his work rate after a few bombs to get his respect.


Much like Oleg, Izon, Byrd, Lewis, and Rahman; Ike kept Tua at bay by continuously pumping a busy jab at him. Tua mostly played turtle during his time as a top contender, content with being out boxed in his shell all night and gambling on his power to eventually bail him out. Sometimes it did, sometimes it didn’t, but he was never really one to discourage his opponents from throwing, it was generally quite the opposite as other fighters like Rahman had career punch output nights against Tua.

The Mongoose
01-13-2010, 01:30 PM
Patterson UD12 Ibeabuchi.

Patterson is much faster, far better technical, a far better ring general and he packs enough of a punch to get Ike´s respect. I expect Patterson to use his skills and wit to outbox Ibeabuchi pretty clearly. Patterson might be in for a scary moment or two early in the fight but he has a history of getting up and winning.
Ibeabuchi´s terribly overated on here I must add.


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Patterson wasn't blown out by durable, strong, volume punchers like Quarry, Chuvalo, Tommy Jackson, and Bonneva(who nearly stopped Frazier). I really fail to see how Ike is going to just walk through him. I guess a close decision over Tua and a stoppage win in a competitive fight with a cocky still rising Chris Byrd goes along way in the minds of some people. I've seen people pick Ike over prime Tyson, Holyfield, and Ali before...head scratching. He struck me as a Mercer type and a top contender at the time but failed to prove himself beyond that.