Margarito Training ..

[pit]

I just saw margarito Training Vid he looks in good shape, but one thing really stuck out , It looks a though Margarito and Co has incorporated some of the mayweathers mit technique to his own.

This may be just speculation on my part but some of the technique really looks familiar ..

[pit]

I don't like that Mayweather mit work. It just looks like a practiced routine and I don't really know how that could help you out in an actual boxing match. I like it better when a fighter tears away at the mitts with full force like you would in an actual fight, like say Mike Tyson's routine.

I really don't understand this statement...


IF you look at it that what any mit work , that all it ever is a practiced routine.
Mit work is noting more then a practice routine of combination of punches done over and over again unit they are second nature .. reaction drills

only difference is that the Mayweeather add more d to there mit work or reaction drills.

[maracho]

Nothing beats hand-eye coordination like mit work-sometimes hard sometimes fast and easy.

[Relentless]

video or shut the fuck up!

[Relentless]

mayweather showed how he closes his eyes and works the mitts, he also doesn't move his arms more than 2 or 3 inches, yeh that really is going to help.

i believe mayweather only does that for the camera but when the camera's are gone he does real padwork.

[pit]

You just have a problem with what I said because I'm talking about your boy Floyd..


Anyway I just don't like that pitty pat stuff. I see more use in thrusting your punches full force at the mitts and practicing actual fight strength punches more than that light mit touching Floyd does. I don't see how people are impressed with that, it's all one very prolonged rehearsed sequence without any unpredictability that would make you more accustomed to real fight scenarios.

Watching a guy like Mayweather on the mitts pails in comparison to watching a fighter like Mark "Too Sharp" Johnson winging away combinations at the mits and ducking unpredictable incoming swipes like an actual fight scenario.

there you go with the Floyd BS man where talking about training , what ever personal issue you have with floyd has nothing to do with me .. ok

in any case Mike tyson mit routine was even more structured then Floyd's. Cus had a number system to all of his combo which Tyson followed and if you look at any of Tyson early fights his corner would give numbers instead of instructions.

and what good is it to just have a fighter wing away at the mits , anyone can swing as hard as they can at the mits but what do you learn , not shit thats not what boxing is all about .. combo have to be learned and there learned by doing the combo over and over , not swinging harp hazardly at the mit and bags, that makes about as much since as banging on the piano and creating a musical piece ..

[pit]

video or shut the fuck up!

if you want to talk shit then kiss my ass , with my dick in ya mouth.

[Relentless]

but what do you learn from your trainer hitting your gloves while moving your hands a few inches forward?

[Relentless]

if you want to talk shit then kiss my ass , with my dick in ya mouth.

just post the god damn video!

[pit]

:lol: Calm the fuck down you pussy. I can't say a single negative thing about you pimp daddy floyd without you overreacting to it.

No one just wings away at the pads big guy. What I'm saying is that weak pitty pat routine of Floyd's does no where near as much for your training and hand-eye coordination as working the pads at full force which gest you more acclimated to the speed of an actual fight.

Now give us a fucking vid so we can see what the fuck you're talking about!

Calm down?!?! I am, your the one throwing insults like a jilted high school bitch not me ..

throwing full speed does no more for you then throwing half speed does , a clam state of mind and mind set prepares you for that ..

and if you look more closely to Rodger mit routine you would see he make sure that his fighter go right back to defense after every combo ..his mit work is balance between offense and defense ..

and I tried to send the vid to your bitch ass but your mail box is full , clean your box out bitch .

[maracho]

mayweather showed how he closes his eyes and works the mitts, he also doesn't move his arms more than 2 or 3 inches, yeh that really is going to help.

i believe mayweather only does that for the camera but when the camera's are gone he does real padwork.

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Hmm there goes the hand-eye coordination theory or was Floyd peeking while mimicking uncle roger's flashback?

[Relentless]

thanks for the vid pit, what the fuck is he doing?? does he want to lose the fight or what?? this is no time to be bringing in new methods.

[pit]

thanks for the vid pit, what the fuck is he doing?? does he want to lose the fight or what?? this is no time to be bringing in new methods.

he looks like he is working on his D , which I commend him for . everyone know that Magarito is there to be hit , he and his camp made adjustment for it , in fact he doesn't look bad at all he looks dame good with more head movement.

[Relentless]

if it aint broken dont fix it, his gonna go in there trying to do what he dont know.

[Ambition_Def]

he looks like he is working on his D , which I commend him for . everyone know that Magarito is there to be hit , he and his camp made adjustment for it , in fact he doesn't look bad at all he looks dame good with more head movement.

His defense against Kermit Cintron was superb.

Nobody ever believes me, but I've said it multiple times. When Margarito has a real challenge in front of him he comes ultra prepared. They knew Cintron was a banger so they focused on defense and it showed.

As for Williams, I don't think much of his power and I'm sure once Margarito feels his way through those punches, he won't fear Williams.

[joe the great]

This fight reminds me of a welter version of Holy-Bowe. Tough fight to call.

[pit]

High School bitch huh? I'm not the immature one getting all arsed everytime anyone talks badly about your boy Gayweather.

My Inbox isn't full. It just can't be cleared ever since the crash a couple weeks back like many othere members' accounts... but just post the vid up here for everyone to see you fucking idiot.

Anyway, only a very easily entertained simple minded guy like youurself would be impressed by such a light rehearsed padwork routine.... and yes my man a full speed padworkout does help you more because practicing at that speed will get you much more accustomed to the velocity of a real boxing match. That weak Mayweather routine can be taught to an 80 year old grandmother. Such a light workout can only benefit a fighter if he's warming up, it does jack shit compared to more spirited padwork.

dude what the hell are you fucking talking about where not even talking about floyd , the Mayweather's method of training ,you brought floyd into this , you bashing floyd is not going to hurt my feeling.

In any case if Rodger's routine is so weak lets see you teach it to some 80 year old grandma and then post it hear on EBS if it so simple..

In any case everyone has there own method of training and no one's training is better then anyone else's but if you keep an open mind you just might learn something.

[lyricalmist]

High School bitch huh? I'm not the immature one getting all arsed everytime anyone talks badly about your boy Gayweather.

My Inbox isn't full. It just can't be cleared ever since the crash a couple weeks back like many othere members' accounts... but just post the vid up here for everyone to see you fucking idiot.

Anyway, only a very easily entertained simple minded guy like youurself would be impressed by such a light rehearsed padwork routine.... and yes my man a full speed padworkout does help you more because practicing at that speed will get you much more accustomed to the velocity of a real boxing match. That weak Mayweather routine can be taught to an 80 year old grandmother. Such a light workout can only benefit a fighter if he's warming up, it does jack shit compared to more spirited padwork.

one word....undefeated

[Relentless]

one word....undefeated

so is cotto and hatton and paul williams, your point??

[pit]

His defense against Kermit Cintron was superb.

Nobody ever believes me, but I've said it multiple times. When Margarito has a real challenge in front of him he comes ultra prepared. They knew Cintron was a banger so they focused on defense and it showed.

As for Williams, I don't think much of his power and I'm sure once Margarito feels his way through those punches, he won't fear Williams.


but in the cintron fight he got caught early and often , was hit with more punches then his team wanted him too, even in his fight with Clotty he was hit way too often .

In any case margarito had better have a healthy respect of williams power and I pretty sure he does or he wouldn't trained has hard as he has for this fight and has incorporated more head movement in his routine .

[pit]

so is cotto and hatton and paul williams, your point??


Nope but his is considered better then they are but thats a whole different subject.

[Ambition_Def]

but in the cintron fight he got caught early and often , was hit with more punches then his team wanted him too, even in his fight with Clotty he was hit way too often .

In any case margarito had better have a healthy respect of williams power and I pretty sure he does or he would trained has hard as he has for this fight and has incorporated more head movement in his routine .

We saw different fights then, because I never saw Cintron actually hit Margarito flush but maybe once or twice over 5 rounds.

And even though Margarito was open to Clottey upstairs, he did a terrific job of protecting his body. That is something that won't soon be forgotten should Cotto and he meet in the winter.

[pit]

We saw different fights then, because I never saw Cintron actually hit Margarito flush but maybe once or twice over 5 rounds.

And even though Margarito was open to Clottey upstairs, he did a terrific job of protecting his body. That is something that won't soon be forgotten should Cotto and he meet in the winter.

Yeah I guess we did see a different fight , because I saw a lot of punches get through and then I saw a young fighter give up when his shots didn't have the desired effect that he wanted .

But I will agree with you on one thing , I do believe cotto come forward style is made for Margarito but we will have to see.
but if Floyd come out of retirement and fights Rick or if the deals fall through I doubt margarito will get his chance to fight fight cotto but may find himself in the back seat again to see if Arum can make a fight between Floyd and Cotto.

[brooklyn1550]

At this point, Roger can't teach Floyd anything new...the Mayweather mit work is to just make the punches second nature (to make them automatic). And he throws defense in there which is very smart. Those short little punches are also to get Floyd's body throwing the punches - so they are not arm punches. BTW, I don't like Floyd.

[Relentless]

At this point, Roger can't teach Floyd anything new...the Mayweather mit work is to just make the punches second nature (to make them automatic). And he throws defense in there which is very smart. Those short little punches are also to get Floyd's body throwing the punches - so they are not arm punches. BTW, I don't like Floyd.

what does that have to do with anything?

[brooklyn1550]

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what does that have to do with anything?

So nobody says "stop defending your boy" like what happened with pit

[mancat]

His routine on the mitts looks exactly like Mayweather's, but at a slower speed.

[aliwasthegreatest]

yea sorta.

[maracho]

Margarito looks more impressive on the mits than Floyd but Areola looked lazy or maybe he just a little nervous

[joe the great]

I think Mayweather's pad work is great but I don't use it much. I usually call out combinations and try to suprise the boxers, however you have to have a few varied combinations or the pad work is going to look like a train wreck with the fighter not having an idea of what might be coming next.

[mancat]

Margarito looks more impressive on the mits than Floyd but Areola looked lazy
Bullshit. It looks like he is mimicking what PBF does. He looks good at it though.

[maracho]

Yeah I guess we did see a different fight , because I saw a lot of punches get through and then I saw a young fighter give up when his shots didn't have the desired effect that he wanted .

But I will agree with you on one thing , I do believe cotto come forward style is made for Margarito but we will have to see.
but if Floyd come out of retirement and fights Rick or if the deals fall through I doubt margarito will get his chance to fight fight cotto but may find himself in the back seat again to see if Arum can make a fight between Floyd and Cotto.

Or maybe if Margaito Kos Williams Oscar will give him a call like he did to Ricky. Naa he'd make Ouma loose alot of weight:lol:

Mosley Margarito would be nice but Oscar wouldnt have that either

[Koa]

I'd take the property that is part of a package which Warner is working on in my hometown.. Includes a Four Seasons Hotel, a Casino and a 3 golfcourse package.

I think membership starts off at around 500k. Wouldn't be profitable until the bastard finished building it, but would bring insane income.. Would allow me to just retire and play golf, go on vacations etc. :)

[boxing_nerd_101]

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agreed about it looking rehearsed. its not instictive like what de le hoya does (see link) im not saying its easy so dont go saying "oh hed kick ur ass" coz i no he would coz every1 cracks it pretty easy
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[pit]

You're the one who brought Floyd into this by comparing Margo's padwork to Mayweather's on your very first post of this thread you imbecile.

But I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree here. You think that Floyd's routine has some value to it while I think it has little to no practical prupose to it except maybe for a decent warm-up, or light defensive technique. Still I think the muscle memory aspect of a more intense pad workout beats that Mayweather light mitt tapping any day.


You moron , I was simply stating the fact the Margartio looks as though he added some of the mayweather mit tip to his own you stooge , then you jumped on the Floyd shit which had nothing to do with the topic you doornob.


Mayweather light mitt tapping has earned him a bronze medal at the olympic , his first champion ship belt at only 17 , fights , and champion ship belts at 135,140,147, and 154, and that fact that he is able to do this routine with amazing speed says that he has the muscle memory bull shit down pact , so what has your mit work done for you lately other , come to ESB and talk shit. have you accomplished or come anywhere near what the mayweather have done.? I didn't think so .

[pit]

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agreed about it looking rehearsed. its not instictive like what de le hoya does (see link) im not saying its easy so dont go saying "oh hed kick ur ass" coz i no he would coz every1 cracks it pretty easy
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but the end result was what ?? who training paid off and who's didn't ? oscar never got to use any of those instinctive moves , while he was so busy thinking who to hit Floyd was cruising on auto pilot using his rehearsed defensive moves that oscar could not figure out how to solve...:yep

[Relentless]

thats just a stupid thing to say, floyd mayweather would have been who he is even if he had done pads with peter manfredo sr.