Mormeck vs. Haye

[emanuel_augustus]

is set for September. This has the makings of a classic. Could be a changing of the guard in the Cruiser division. Haye has the size and power to trouble Mormeck, plus you have to wonder what age and the two tough fights with Bell took out of him.

Predictions?

[Kolya]

Haye, late stoppage.

[fatcity]

Agree.Haye by stoppage,round8.:hi:

[Danny]

Haye by KO, & early at that. With David's power, the could even be a 1st round KO/TKO. Not likely, but you never know. I for one wouldn't be too surprised to see Haye KO Mormeck in 1.

Big admiration to Haye for going to his opponent's back-yard & taking on a real challenge. If Haye wins, he'll be regarded as the best Cruiser in the world & rightly so.

Haye is still improving as a boxer, and he has great potential. In a way, the loss against Thompson was a blessing in disguise. Haye has leanred from that experience and is a much better fighter for it.

Haye's bringing the title back to England. Wonder what Frank ****** will say then?

[DamonD]

This is definitely happening? That would be tremendous!

Haye winning would be great just for pissing off ****** alone... ;)

[Mook]

Agree.Haye by stoppage,round8.:hi:

A little earlier for me, and I'm a big Mormeck fan... but the Hayemaker is going to be summat special. This is the fight I've been waiting for... Where's Ding's prediction?

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[scorpy]

Haye is really good but people are really underestimating Mormeck on this site. First round ko ? :lol:

[Mook]

Haye is really good but people are really underestimating Mormeck on this site. First round ko ? :lol:

Oh, I think that's been true for years. Mormeck is outstanding. I'm not guilty of underestimating him - I might be guilty of overestimating Haye. any win over Mormeck would be an fantastic performance.

[Antwuan Maxx]

All I gotta say is this fight better be shown in the States! Maybe Don King can cut another deal with MSG/FSN again.

[Mook]

All I gotta say is this fight better be shown in the States! Maybe Don King can cut another deal with MSG/FSN again.

i hope so for Haye's sake. He could be a big star, though the rodney King comments were more than bloody ill-advised. They'll come back to haunt him. It's a real shame cos he's a much better guy than that. :verysad

[Theo]

David haye is weight drained at 200lbs.

thsi is not geing to be as easy as you all say.

haye will be better at heavy where he has some punch resistance.

/Theo

[Mook]

David haye is weight drained at 200lbs.

thsi is not geing to be as easy as you all say.

haye will be better at heavy where he has some punch resistance.

/Theo

i agree that you have a point here, but I expect haye to have kept his weight down and not been hitting the weights too much - he's been expecting this fight for a while. I think he'll be ok come fight night. It will be his last cruiser fight though - he won't have anything left to prove there.

[emanuel_augustus]

This is definitely happening? That would be tremendous!


Mormeck-Haye on September 28!

Wednesday, July 4 2007

WBC/WBA cruiserweight king Jean-Marc Mormeck (33-3, 22 KOs) will defend his title against mandatory WBC challenger David Haye (19-1, 18 KOs) on September 28 in France. A deal was reached between the two camps just hours before the bout was scheduled to go to purse bids. "I'm not worried about the fight being in France," said Haye. "I visited the same venue in March to see Mormeck win the titles against Bell and the atmosphere and arena were excellent. I really enjoyed it, and, to be honest, a part of me actually hoped my fight with Mormeck would be there. I can't wait to silence all the French fans by banging out their boy early doors."

[brooklyn1550]

Haye TKO8 Mormeck

[Smith]

This is far from a foregone conclusion people, im Haye's biggest fan but you can't just enderestimate Mormeck lke this, he's a fucking tank!

Im saying Haye by TKO in the 8th, i'd be very surprised if David lets this go past the seventh.

[Smith]

I'm also pinning for Mormeck to come into the ring with his trademark blonde goatee, and David Haye to come into the ring with his big ass afro, should make for the most ridiculous looking world class fight ever.

[Brighton bomber]

Haye for all his obvious strengths is also a flawed fighter as well. This won't be an easy assignment. Haye could blow Mormeck out of the ring but he might find himself in a tough fight against the rugged frenchman. If Haye's power can keep Mormeck away he will win, if Mormeck can walk through haye's bombs he can punish the weight drained Haye on the inside. Having had a few drinks I'll be optimistic and pick Haye by KO in the middle rounds.

[David UK]

Haye is going to be a bit special at heavy. He has too much for Mormeck. Haye by stoppage before halfway

[The Kurgan]

I think a big factor is down to what approach each boxer takes. Haye might try to finish it early, given his unreliable stamina and the fact that Bell stopped Mormeck (in the middle rounds, but Haye is a much bigger and more precise one-punch boxer than Bell). If Mormeck also, recognising his limited stamina, tries to finish it early then we may have a Foreman-Lyle kind of fight on our hands.

One advantage Haye has is that he can, if needs be, box in the early portion of the fight. Mormeck could try that, but while he can box a bit I don't think he could win rounds against a faster, taller and more skilled opponent. He pretty much won the second Bell fight in the first 8 rounds on my card, but trailed off badly after that. If they both start slowly, Mormeck will be in the unenviable position of having to take risks in the second half of the fight in order to win. That puts him in a very bad situation, because Haye has now shown that he carries his punch into the final third of the fight.

Finally, Mormeck may start quickly and Haye slowly. Given that this is Haye's second title attempt after that disaster against Thompson, I think he may well be a bit tenative early on. Mormeck may try to get him out early. If so, it becomes an interesting 50-50 fight. Mormeck could run into a counter-shot and not recover. On the other hand, he could break down Haye and stop him in the middle rounds. Mormeck's success with this approach will depend on how much pressure he applies: if he takes a risk and applies constant pressure early, he can get Haye out of there. If he fights in spurts, then he risks a repeat of the first Bell fight.

I think Haye has slightly more ways to win the fight, so he's the favourite in my book, but I've followed Mormeck long enough to know that you can NEVER count him out.

[val]

It seems Haye looses this one. Mormeck is no Bonin or Fragomeni.
Early KO by Haye is possible. Otherwise Haye is going to get hit very often and then TKOed.

[dwilson]

Haye by late ko

[The Whaler]

I'm going with Mormeck by mid to late KO. Haye looked awesome against Bonin, but that was a healthier, happier heavyweight Haye. Haye himself has said that he won't be at his max potential when he fights Mormeck at Cruiserweight, and his showing against Fragomeni didn't overly impress me. The two Bell fights have put Mormeck's chin and stamina in question, but I think the Frenchman will pull it together and score a dramatic KO victory in a pretty exciting fight.
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[Irländsk]

Mormeck TKO10

[madpup]

Should be an awesome fight, whoever wins.

[MancMexican]

Haye KO 11th round. Mormeck will swarm Haye to neutralise the straight right but his stamina won't take him the distance. By the mid-rounds Haye will be winning the fight and finally Mormeck will be too gassed to keep up the pressure and will go down.

[ApatheticLeader]

I think a big factor is down to what approach each boxer takes. Haye might try to finish it early, given his unreliable stamina and the fact that Bell stopped Mormeck (in the middle rounds, but Haye is a much bigger and more precise one-punch boxer than Bell). If Mormeck also, recognising his limited stamina, tries to finish it early then we may have a Foreman-Lyle kind of fight on our hands.

One advantage Haye has is that he can, if needs be, box in the early portion of the fight. Mormeck could try that, but while he can box a bit I don't think he could win rounds against a faster, taller and more skilled opponent. He pretty much won the second Bell fight in the first 8 rounds on my card, but trailed off badly after that. If they both start slowly, Mormeck will be in the unenviable position of having to take risks in the second half of the fight in order to win. That puts him in a very bad situation, because Haye has now shown that he carries his punch into the final third of the fight.

Finally, Mormeck may start quickly and Haye slowly. Given that this is Haye's second title attempt after that disaster against Thompson, I think he may well be a bit tenative early on. Mormeck may try to get him out early. If so, it becomes an interesting 50-50 fight. Mormeck could run into a counter-shot and not recover. On the other hand, he could break down Haye and stop him in the middle rounds. Mormeck's success with this approach will depend on how much pressure he applies: if he takes a risk and applies constant pressure early, he can get Haye out of there. If he fights in spurts, then he risks a repeat of the first Bell fight.

I think Haye has slightly more ways to win the fight, so he's the favourite in my book, but I've followed Mormeck long enough to know that you can NEVER count him out.

Great post :good

[elias]

It's a very interesting fight. As much as I like Haye, Mormeck has to be favourite based on his career to date.