View Full Version : Mayweather's new Signature punch the Check Hook.
Shane
12-20-2007, 02:37 PM
Awesome punch i trust he will be throwing it with more regularity now after seeing the effect it had on ricky hatton, He will be baiting come forward pressure fighters with that hook, its a thing of beauty.
errsta
12-20-2007, 02:38 PM
I'm sure you will execute it with equal precision as well
MancMexican
12-20-2007, 02:39 PM
Awesome punch i trust he will be throwing it with more regularity now after seeing the effect it had on ricky hatton, He will be baiting come forward pressure fighters with that hook, its a thing of beauty.
dont expect to see it again unless his next fights are against people who lunge in with no defence
SevenSamurai
12-20-2007, 02:39 PM
It was a beautiful shot, and the effect it had on Hatton will be replayed on countless re-runs of his career to highlight his greatness.
He is a true ATG.
Smokin'Moe420
12-20-2007, 02:41 PM
yea it was a great hook but i dont see it landing as flush as it did on hatton on any other fighters
hazza
12-20-2007, 02:42 PM
will everyone stop with this check hook bullshit. its just a hook, a counter hook to be more precise. it looked dramatic because hatton threw a long right, over balanced and mayweather countered with a left hook.
but a hook is a hook. kinda like ali's anchor punch. it was just a quick lead right. people ooh and aah cause guys like him are fast but its still a stock standard punch
i bet you never see mayweather 'check hook' anyone again for a long time and i'll also bet none of you ever used the term check hook before he invented the word.
P.4.P.G.O.A.T.
12-20-2007, 02:43 PM
It wasn't a huge part of his game until he realized Hatton was planting his left foot when he felt he had floyd cornered and lunging in with a hook while allowing his right hand to drift towards his chest. Mayweather noticed this in the first round and was timing that KO punch the entire fight. Say what you want about Floyd, his best skill is his ability to study a fighter and make adjustments. He's absolutely incredible at this.
twenty1
12-20-2007, 02:46 PM
STOP THIS MTV CHECK HOOK SH!#!!!!!!!!!!!.....YOU GUYS ACT LIKE SOMEBODY WHO SEES A RAPPER GO PLATINUM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER
MTV PUNKS-people who jump on whatever's hot at the moment i.e. posers
check hook Emmanuel Steward called it that during the whole fight because it is known in boxing class.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
K0NPHL1C7
12-20-2007, 02:52 PM
dont expect to see it again unless his next fights are against people who lunge in with no defence
I was going to say. As much as I like Mayweather, that is a punch of opportunity. Not many fighters would throw leaping left hooks with such terrible inaccuracy and lumbering speed that they would caught with that. For the most part, people who face Mayweather are smart enough to know that he's much, much faster and far more skilled than they, so they choose their shots a little more wisely.
I think the punch landed in part thanks to Mayweathers lying back in rounds 5 and 6. I think these were intentionally "throw away" rounds, to give Hatton a sense he was doing better than he really was. Hatton in turn got more aggressive and dropped his guard, and Mayweather was able to capitalize. He's not only physically the best fighter in the world, but mentally as well.
BITCH ASS
12-20-2007, 02:54 PM
STFU
He's been using that MANUEVER for years.
Every good boxer uses that.
Ya'll don't know what the fuck it is.
MancMexican
12-20-2007, 02:56 PM
I was going to say. As much as I like Mayweather, that is a punch of opportunity. Not many fighters would throw leaping left hooks with such terrible inaccuracy and lumbering speed that they would caught with that. For the most part, people who face Mayweather are smart enough to know that he's much, much faster and far more skilled than they, so they choose their shots a little more wisely.
I think the punch landed in part thanks to Mayweathers lying back in rounds 5 and 6. I think these were intentionally "throw away" rounds, to give Hatton a sense he was doing better than he really was. Hatton in turn got more aggressive and dropped his guard, and Mayweather was able to capitalize. He's not only physically the best fighter in the world, but mentally as well.
it was the right punch for the right opponent, like you say a punch of opportunity, not some Fight Night Round 3 boxer special move.
that's an interesting take on rounds 5 and 6. do you think Mayweather was confident enough after the first 4 rounds to do that midway into the fight? if so then that's an incredible display of both self belief and ring smarts.
lefthook31
12-20-2007, 02:56 PM
Most counterpunchers throw that shot, and others like it. Jones Jr also threw alot of punches like that. They're just short timing shots that work really well on fighters always coming forward.
twenty1
12-20-2007, 02:59 PM
it was the right punch for the right opponent, like you say a punch of opportunity, not some Fight Night Round 3 boxer special move.
THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!
eltorrente
12-20-2007, 03:03 PM
LOL
Check Hook: the latest catch phrase sweeping the nation that makes people think you know boxing.
Umm thanks Manny...
K0NPHL1C7
12-20-2007, 03:05 PM
it was the right punch for the right opponent, like you say a punch of opportunity, not some Fight Night Round 3 boxer special move.
that's an interesting take on rounds 5 and 6. do you think Mayweather was confident enough after the first 4 rounds to do that midway into the fight? if so then that's an incredible display of both self belief and ring smarts.
I think so. It just seemed like he flipped the "off" switch and went to super defense mode for no reason at all. Just kind of covered up, almost rope-a-dope style. He was clearly leading up to that point, Hatton hadn't hit him with much of anything. It certainly got Hatton to be at least think he could hit him.
I also think Floyd may have done the same in the first couple rounds against Judah. Just kind of held on and felt him out. It seemed as soon as he actually wanted to fight, he took complete control.
capfunds, lots of fighters use that punch, it's a pretty easy way to score a knock-down, if you can land it properly. The thing is, it has to be set up, you're reliant on your opponent to lunge forward like that, and there are not many people confident enough to make such a risky move against such a tough adversary.
KayEpps
12-20-2007, 03:09 PM
The check hook isn't something new.
If they would have called it a counter left hook - this thread wouldn't have even been made.
Gerard
12-20-2007, 03:35 PM
will everyone stop with this check hook bullshit. its just a hook, a counter hook to be more precise. it looked dramatic because hatton threw a long right, over balanced and mayweather countered with a left hook.
but a hook is a hook. kinda like ali's anchor punch. it was just a quick lead right. people ooh and aah cause guys like him are fast but its still a stock standard punch
i bet you never see mayweather 'check hook' anyone again for a long time and i'll also bet none of you ever used the term check hook before he invented the word.
Interesting to note was that Emanuel Steward called it a "check hook" in his commentary during the live knockdown (and so way before Mayweather called it a check hook in the post-fight interview).
jeffradka
12-20-2007, 04:06 PM
haha.... I never would of imagined check hook would get this big. Especially since I was watching the fight on cctv 5 in chinese
the_what
12-20-2007, 04:11 PM
STOP THIS MTV CHECK HOOK SH!#!!!!!!!!!!!.....YOU GUYS ACT LIKE SOMEBODY WHO SEES A RAPPER GO PLATINUM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER
MTV PUNKS-people who jump on whatever's hot at the moment i.e. posers
check hook Emmanuel Steward called it that during the whole fight because it is known in boxing class.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
:lol:
Check-hook isn't "just a hook", it's a combination of hook, uppercut, accurate timing, nifty footwork, luck, and the right opponent to be able to pull it off. Also, it is not exclusive to boxing.
shelterr
12-20-2007, 04:12 PM
i bet you never see mayweather 'check hook' anyone again for a long time and i'll also bet none of you ever used the term check hook before he invented the word.
If Floyd invented it, then how did Manny Steward know what to call it right after Floyd did it? Gotcha!
Floyd did not invent it! The check-hook has been used for about a million years! Sugar Ray Robinson used it to devastating effect, for starters. All kinds of fighters throughout the years have used it.
By the way, for anyone to call it his "signature punch" would be an insult to the true greats. Learn your history.
Thread Stealer
12-20-2007, 04:17 PM
:lol: at Mayweather inventing the term.
:lol: at Mayweather inventing the term.
Yeah, Floyd even mentioned where he learnt it after the Hatton fight.
"I got him with the check hook," said Mayweather, his victory, by TKO, coming at the 1:35 mark of the 10th. "I learned that in northern Michigan, in the amateurs. He walked right into it and never saw it coming."
Some explanations of the check-hook here:
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Thread Stealer
12-20-2007, 04:29 PM
Yeah, Floyd even mentioned where he learnt it after the Hatton fight.
Manny Steward has even talked about the check hook on HBO before Mayweather-Hatton.
Manny Steward has even talked about the check hook on HBO before Mayweather-Hatton.
Exactly. It's nothing new! It's a punch learned by amateurs, but even many of the pro's would be lucky to land one. Roy Jones was able to pull it off effectively, plus many of the old fighters. I believe Foreman called it a "hookercut".
bigeddie27
12-20-2007, 04:39 PM
Awesome punch i trust he will be throwing it with more regularity now after seeing the effect it had on ricky hatton, He will be baiting come forward pressure fighters with that hook, its a thing of beauty.
uh, mayweather has been throwing that left hook his whole fucking career. that is his money punch all day - especially when he leads with it. One thing that made his fight against oscar tougher than what it had to be was the fact oscar was blocking this shot. I was actually amazed oscar could block that shot, and it even seemed to throw floyd off when he was blocking it. One thing about floyd is that every fight he will start by trying to land that lead left hook. If he starts to land, its not going to be 'pretty' for the other guy at all.
sambob
12-20-2007, 04:47 PM
uh, mayweather has been throwing that left hook his whole fucking career. that is his money punch all day - especially when he leads with it. One thing that made his fight against oscar tougher than what it had to be was the fact oscar was blocking this shot. I was actually amazed oscar could block that shot, and it even seemed to throw floyd off when he was blocking it. One thing about floyd is that evey fight he will start by trying to land that lead left hook. If he starts to land, its not going to be 'pretty' for the other guy at all.
The left hook that Oscar repeatedly blocked in that fight was a LEAD left hook. The only time Floyd really got his left hook in was as a counter (the only one I remember was in combination with right hands kind of on the inside).
brooklyn1550
12-20-2007, 06:07 PM
The "check hook" has been around for years. Floyd didn't invent the punch.
It's a great shot, if executed properly, against fighters coming in. If you don't see it coming, it has a big effect.
Efil4zaggin
12-20-2007, 06:14 PM
Awesome punch i trust he will be throwing it with more regularity now after seeing the effect it had on ricky hatton, He will be baiting come forward pressure fighters with that hook, its a thing of beauty.
STFU with this shit!:roll:
Carlos Primera
12-20-2007, 06:47 PM
nothing new, he's been walking guys into that left hook for years. hatton just had the misfortune of lunging forward face first, which is what made the shot dramatic.
djfonti
12-20-2007, 06:51 PM
Anyone on this board that uses the term 'check hook' is a fucking gaylord trying to make out as if they know their stuff. A hook's a hook, you heard Floyd call it by a nickname and are acting as if it is some sort of new bolo punch he has created....christ I'm embarassed for you sad bastards.....
bigeddie27
12-20-2007, 07:28 PM
The left hook that Oscar repeatedly blocked in that fight was a LEAD left hook. The only time Floyd really got his left hook in was as a counter (the only one I remember was in combination with right hands kind of on the inside).
lead hook, check hook, whatever hook, all of mayweathers left hooks are the same - 'A thing of beauty'. My point was that he had his left hook for awhile now.
bigeddie27
12-20-2007, 07:28 PM
nothing new, he's been walking guys into that left hook for years. hatton just had the misfortune of lunging forward face first, which is what made the shot dramatic.
exactly - well said!
here here!
Ramshall1
12-20-2007, 07:30 PM
His signature punch is the forearm to the face.
Symphenyceo
12-20-2007, 07:31 PM
STOP THIS MTV CHECK HOOK SH!#!!!!!!!!!!!.....YOU GUYS ACT LIKE SOMEBODY WHO SEES A RAPPER GO PLATINUM AND ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S YOUR FAVORITE RAPPER
MTV PUNKS-people who jump on whatever's hot at the moment i.e. posers
check hook Emmanuel Steward called it that during the whole fight because it is known in boxing class.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
:good
Relentless
12-20-2007, 07:52 PM
all i saw was a counter left hook, nothing new.
Big N Bad
12-20-2007, 08:16 PM
he was throwing that hook plenty as baldomir, he always throws it against aggressive fighters. it would make baldomir rethink his attack at time, it breaks the opponents rythm and now mayweather has found out that if he puts abit of venom behind it, he could spark you too!
Mindspring
12-20-2007, 08:24 PM
Forget about this signature "check hook", it's nothing new in his arsenal. It's all about drooling- for Floyd- that has resulted after Hatton turned out to be a midget. Floyd remains a skinny kid that needs to watch what levels he thinks he can conquer.
Sebastien
12-20-2007, 08:52 PM
yea it was a great hook but i dont see it landing as flush as it did on hatton on any other fighters
He landed it a lot against Corrales.
Check hooks are amazing KO punches...
At the lower weights James Toney threw beautiful check hooks
digiram
12-20-2007, 09:09 PM
His sig. punch is still the straight right. He throws it with precision and throws it often.
Honestly, this guy throws every punch in the book. He doesn't have a sig. punch. I love the straight right though. He rarely misses with that thing.
birddog
12-20-2007, 09:14 PM
Never heard the term "check hook" till this fight, is that like Bruce Lee using the term stop Hit? WTF. Also some call a punch that's in between a hook and uppercut a shovel punch or hook " symantics" . BTW Hagler hit Hamsho with a right in fight 2 that looked like a "check hook" back in the 80's. Was just a well timed hook on an opponent coming in no fancy name.
Throwing punches has been around since the start of time, whats with the new name.
Check hook counter hook all the same stuff.
rreed23
12-20-2007, 09:16 PM
Ohhh...god dammit...
Chert
12-20-2007, 09:24 PM
what da hell is a check hook?? :rofl
Ramshall1
12-20-2007, 09:26 PM
what da hell is a check hook?? :rofl
its when you try to write a check to a hooker and she slaps you with a sneaky left while side stepping.
Mrboogie23
12-20-2007, 09:33 PM
LOL
Check Hook: the latest catch phrase sweeping the nation that makes people think you know boxing.
Umm thanks Manny...
:rofl
Betty Swollocks
12-20-2007, 09:42 PM
i bet i knew about the check hook longer than any of you guys, bet you.
RafaelGonzal
12-20-2007, 09:48 PM
will everyone stop with this check hook bullshit. its just a hook, a counter hook to be more precise. it looked dramatic because hatton threw a long right, over balanced and mayweather countered with a left hook.
but a hook is a hook. kinda like ali's anchor punch. it was just a quick lead right. people ooh and aah cause guys like him are fast but its still a stock standard punch
i bet you never see mayweather 'check hook' anyone again for a long time and i'll also bet none of you ever used the term check hook before he invented the word.
your absolutely correct its a counter lefthook there is no such thing this shits just been made up checkhook what bullshit
IceJohnScully
12-20-2007, 10:00 PM
Roy Jones is the greatest "check hooker" of all time. DEFINITELY
IceJohnScully
12-20-2007, 10:01 PM
your absolutely correct its a counter lefthook there is no such thing this shits just been made up checkhook what bullshit
Actually you guys are very wrong. I first heard of this back in the late 1980's while sparring with Roy Jones. All Roy Jones Sr. trained fighters are very prolific at the punch, especially RJ of course. Add Lamar Parks to the mix- he worked with Big Roy as an amateur and he had a VERY heavy and fast check hook.
carras
12-20-2007, 10:03 PM
please stop this check hook bullshit..
it's just a fucking conter hook while being on the back foot.
Lance_Uppercut
12-20-2007, 10:30 PM
You've seen it exactly ONCE and now think it's his signature punch......
Lance_Uppercut
12-20-2007, 10:31 PM
please stop this check hook bullshit..
it's just a fucking conter hook while being on the back foot.
It is funny seeing all the JoyBoyz running wild with this "Check hook" shit...:lol:
elTerrible
12-20-2007, 10:31 PM
check hook Emmanuel Steward called it that during the whole fight because it is known in boxing class.
EDUCATE YOURSELF
Yeah Emmanual Steward did call it a check hook during the replay of the shot before they ever interviewed Floyd. So PBF didnt just make up the term. It is my first time ever hearing it however. I dont see what is different about it, to me it just looked like a counter left hook that landed great because Hatton was wide open. The only thing unusual was the angle between them.
elTerrible
12-20-2007, 10:33 PM
Actually you guys are very wrong. I first heard of this back in the late 1980's while sparring with Roy Jones. All Roy Jones Sr. trained fighters are very prolific at the punch, especially RJ of course. Add Lamar Parks to the mix- he worked with Big Roy as an amateur and he had a VERY heavy and fast check hook.
What makes it different from a normal left hook?
IceJohnScully
12-20-2007, 10:53 PM
What makes it different from a normal left hook?
A check hook, the way RJ threw it and praxctied it etc..is a short, quick left hook thrown while leaning slightly on your back foot, almost awlways it is thrown over a missed right hand from your opponent. Lamar Parks actually had amuch heavier one then RJ did, although RJ's was quicker and snappier. Both RJ and Lamar (Smoke Gainer,too) would sit on that back and foot and just WAIT until you threw a right hand that they could counter. I mean WATCH some of RJ's best offensive performances and I guarantee you that you will see that scenario played out over and over.
hazza
12-21-2007, 01:10 AM
please stop this check hook bullshit..
it's just a fucking conter hook while being on the back foot.
agreed.
i still cant see why its not just a counter hook. everyone going on with this crap, please explain the difference between a 'check' hook and a counter hook. seriously, what is the fucking difference besides the fact that mayweather said it.
have any of you ever used the term ever, anywhere, before this fight happened?
Yes. I read about it years ago in boxing technique books back in the 80's. I also explained on page 3 (I think). It might have been page 2. It might have been a completely different thread. Fuck knows! :D
Chert
12-21-2007, 01:52 AM
yep. it's a left hook counter on the back foot. mayweather probably calls it differently since his punch doesn't have full commitment (a "check") so as not to expose himself to a possible counter. so, it's a cautious almost tentative punch thrown still within his defensive shell. but most of his punches are like that anyway, checks while back-pedalling. the difference is that this punch was very well-timed with an off-balanced hatton lunging in and hitting the turnbuckle resulting in a dramatic KD.
i'm sure if hatton wasn't spectacularly KD'd by that so-called "check hook", it will still be called what it really is just a normal left hook counter on the back foot.
lefthook31
12-21-2007, 09:23 AM
Theres a lot of different types of counter shots like the check hook. Theres also a counterpunch called the rock and roll. As your opponent comes forward throwing a straight shot you rock to one side, and roll back to the other throwing a counter straight right hand. It allows you to move to the side avoiding your opponents shot, and roll back with the straight right to the other side where he is moving forward.
errsta
05-05-2011, 03:29 AM
Why have we stopped discussing this punch? Was it just a fad?
stacy
05-05-2011, 05:08 AM
Awesome punch i trust he will be throwing it with more regularity now after seeing the effect it had on ricky hatton, He will be baiting come forward pressure fighters with that hook, its a thing of beauty.
:lol:
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