View Full Version : Who is "the" 2007 fighter ? (fighter of the year)
boxingcar
12-20-2007, 04:51 PM
Personally i'm hesitating between Anderson Silva and Gesias Calvancante
There's also Jackson and Couture of course...
Btw , in case you've never heard of Gesias , here is his record
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But to give you a better idea , you have to see him in action during K1's tournament...
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 04:55 PM
I'll have to give it Couture.
I suppose wins over Liddell and Henderson are superior to Sylvia and Gonzaga, but Randy coming back after a 1+ year lay off to two consectutive knockouts and being 43/44 really impress me.
He should win it for sure!
Most dissapointing fighter of the year:
Crocop :verysad
boxingcar
12-20-2007, 05:14 PM
crocop ? more like the most disappointing of the decade. lol...
especially when you know who he had to fight against several years ago...
To think that this cunt used to fight the likes of aerts , Bernardo , Hoost , Feitosa etc...
and finds a way to get koed , via hk by a fucking bjj artist..
finds a way to look like shit against Kongo !!..
to think that this very same guy used to fight guys like andy Hug , Barnett , Fedor !!...
Fuck him !
Donut62
12-20-2007, 05:26 PM
Rampage easy. Beat the number one and number two ranked fighters in his weight class at the times they fought.
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 05:35 PM
Well whats so odd is that he came roaring into the UFC from his brutal dominance of the OWGP.
I seriously thought that CC would annihilate the whole pathetic (at the time) UFC heavyweight division. I thought he would be the champion for years, I was really happy for him because he wanted to be the champ for years but could never quite achieve it in Pride.
Fedor really laid down the blueprint in how to beat CC, just walk towards him circling to your left and he will do jack shit.
Against Knogo he didn't even throw a meanigful punch that landed, not even a kick, Kongo didn't do much either, he just walked toward CC throwing weak jabs and kicks that didn't connect, CC just sheepishly looked at Kongo and didn't even hold his ground and throw back.
Against Gonzaga? Jesus....... Gonzaga did the same but was even more aggressive than both Kongo and Fedor.
It didn't help that CC didn't even bother training in a cage or train for the elbows.
The way to beat CC is clear, attack him. He can't stand to be pressured, he can't stand to be attacked or bullied himself. He collapes into a mental shell and looks lost. He is the definiton of a 1 dimensional fighter. And its not like Hatton who at least has adrenaline and guts to keep on going.
Whenever a fighter stands up to CC, CC just folds, he doesn't even fight back, against GG and Kongo he just watched them attack him.
He also barely uses his hands anymore, very rarely does he punch, now its just that left kick over and over.
I think CC is done as a fighter. I wouldn't be suprised if all other fighters come out and attack him like before. He has been figured out completley. The aura of fear and intimidation that he had, has now completley dissapeared.
So long as he isn't fed completeley worthless and hopeless bums, all his remaining fights will be tough for him.
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 05:37 PM
Ahh another fighter I fogot, Mark Hunt, that was in 2006 but still, He helped create the blueprint as well, attack attack attack.
If you do so against CC, he will fold and offer no obstacle.
I think it's between couture, Rampage and Silva...all have had great yrs.
ufoalf
12-20-2007, 08:25 PM
Rampage takes this hands down.
Wilhelm
12-20-2007, 10:34 PM
I'll have to give it Couture.
I suppose wins over Liddell and Henderson are superior to Sylvia and Gonzaga, but Randy coming back after a 1+ year lay off to two consectutive knockouts and being 43/44 really impress me.
He should win it for sure!
Most dissapointing fighter of the year:
Crocop :verysad
:huh
I have to go with Rampage. The two guys he beat were more proven than the guys Silva beat.
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 10:38 PM
:huh
I have to go with Rampage. The two guys he beat were more proven than the guys Silva beat.
Liddell losses.
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 10:39 PM
Ahh now I get it, I should have wrote "From two consecutive knockouts"
ufoalf
12-20-2007, 10:59 PM
Ahh now I get it, I should have wrote "From two consecutive knockouts"
Oooooooohhh, NOW i understand you. What a fighter needs to do to impress Iron Duke, is to get FUCKED up few times and then come back and win a fight or two. Gotcha.
Dostoevsky
12-20-2007, 11:02 PM
Oooooooohhh, NOW i understand you. What a fighter needs to do to impress Iron Duke, is to get FUCKED up few times and then come back and win a fight or two. Gotcha.
No.
That is not the only 'one' thing a fighter needs to do to impress me.
But doing so certainly will, especially at that age.
radianttwilight
12-20-2007, 11:50 PM
Oooooooohhh, NOW i understand you. What a fighter needs to do to impress Iron Duke, is to get FUCKED up few times and then come back and win a fight or two. Gotcha.
I know! I'd rather watch the #1 heavyweight in the world fight middleweights and 1-0 "contenders", myself.
ufoalf
12-21-2007, 12:51 AM
I know! I'd rather watch the #1 heavyweight in the world fight middleweights and 1-0 "contenders", myself.
Wtf does that have to do with anything I said? Are you at least capable of having an intelligent progression in your thoughts?
sugarngold
12-21-2007, 01:41 AM
crocop ? more like the most disappointing of the decade. lol...
especially when you know who he had to fight against several years ago...
To think that this cunt used to fight the likes of aerts , Bernardo , Hoost , Feitosa etc...
and finds a way to get koed , via hk by a fucking bjj artist..
finds a way to look like shit against Kongo !!..
to think that this very same guy used to fight guys like andy Hug , Barnett , Fedor !!...
Fuck him !
I think all of those wars Crocop had in K-1 and Pride may have finally caught up with him. Those were brilliant battles - against the best fighters of the past decade. That is no small accomplishment. Crocop's subsequent rise to prominence in MMA is a testament to his capabilities as an elite kickboxer.
If he is not entirely finished - but simply ad******g to the new environment in the UFC, then Crocop can still come back and be a threat in the heavyweight division. Those K-1 champions like Aerts, Hoost, Hug, and Hunt could lose to each other on any given night. That said, they were good enough to beat the men that on any given night, could have beaten any man in the world. :bbb:bbb:bbb
sugarngold
12-21-2007, 01:45 AM
Randy Couture's two victories against younger, stronger opponents that were favored to win, put him at the top. When he was supposed to lose, Randy Couture shined. He freed us from having to endure any more of Tim Silvia's lethargic title defenses. :tired
scurlaruntings
12-21-2007, 05:23 AM
I think all of those wars Crocop had in K-1 and Pride may have finally caught up with him. Those were brilliant battles - against the best fighters of the past decade. That is no small accomplishment. Crocop's subsequent rise to prominence in MMA is a testament to his capabilities as an elite kickboxer.
If he is not entirely finished - but simply ad******g to the new environment in the UFC, then Crocop can still come back and be a threat in the heavyweight division. Those K-1 champions like Aerts, Hoost, Hug, and Hunt could lose to each other on any given night. That said, they were good enough to beat the men that on any given night, could have beaten any man in the world. :bbb:bbb:bbbAgreed.CC has been doing this for some time.The guys had many fights in the K-1 and PRIDE and now monetary wise is comfortable.I dont think he has the desire anymore. His a very proud fighter and will more than likely prefer to go out on a win.Although personally i think CC has done.The CC that wanted a title back in the OWGP is gone.:|
scurlaruntings
12-21-2007, 05:25 AM
Randy Couture's two victories against younger, stronger opponents that were favored to win, put him at the top. When he was supposed to lose, Randy Couture shined. He freed us from having to endure any more of Tim Silvia's lethargic title defenses. :tiredNAw its got to Rampage by a mile.He destroyed Liddell and created the first "unification" of sorts with the PRIDE and UFC titles by taking on the next best thing in Dan Hendersen.His had a great year.
theunderdog
12-21-2007, 06:46 AM
rampage. defeated the best in the ufc then defeated the best of PRIDE. he also avenged a loss in the process
Beebs
12-22-2007, 07:21 PM
Anderson Silva or Rampage I would say.
codeman99998
12-22-2007, 09:13 PM
Matt Serra.
ufoalf
12-22-2007, 11:31 PM
Matt Serra.
Is that a joke? He had 1 fight in 2007...
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