Leon Spinks vs Jimmy Young

[Titan1]

The Leon of the first Ali fight vs the Jimmy of the Norton and Foreman fights in a 15 rounder.Who ultimately suceeds.

[Swedish81]

Jimmy Young wins a decision in this one. Young was a great defensive fighter and Leon has the come-forward style that suits Jimmy perfectly.

He would make him miss and pay all night long.

[Swedish81]

Originally Posted by JLC
Leon Spinks is vastly under-rated, i take Spinks to beat Jimmy Young... i thought Foreman was robbed in his fight with Young i had Foreman winning 10rds - 2rds


You must have mixed that fight up with another one. :lol:

[robert ungurean]

Young would give Neon Leon a boxing lesson.

[unitas]

Young by UD. spinks is overrated.

[Longhhorn71]

As a sidelight, wonder why people forget that Spinks kicked Ali's behind
in the first fight. Spinks only had 7 (?) pro fights.

There is a saying here in Texas that if you go to a "High Noon" showdown,
then you better bring your pistols.

Too many times the Ali of mid-seventies just showed up....knowing he would get the judges vote no matter what.

That is just my humble opinion.

[brooklyn1550]

Young UD

[joebeadg]

I believe they were actually sched. to fight, I forget the reasonwhy the fight didn't happen. Early eighties I think. If Jimmy trained to win, he wins. Any fight Jimmy trained to win, he wins, if only the judges appreciates his artistry, a true master boxer at work.

[ThinBlack]

Jimmy wins a strong UD, Spinks only wins a couple of rounds at best.

[joebeadg]

But, Leon is the kind of guy who just might get a dec. off a guy like Jimmy, Jimmy couldn't be inactive with a guy who never stops punching. He'd have to make Leon miss and counter all night. Cause Leon threw a l;ot of leather in the first clay fight. But Young would beat him if he took the fight seriouse. I think Leon would learn a lot too

[Boxed Ears]

What's this, then? A realistic H2H thread involving Jimmy Young? :huh

[lufcrazy]

What's this, then? A realistic H2H thread involving Jimmy Young? :huh

Oh Ears, Young isn't in your "esb #insert name#" club along with liston is he?

the guy beat shavers, ali and foreman, that's enough to debate him against top level opponents.

[Boxed Ears]

Oh Ears, Young isn't in your "esb #insert name#" club along with liston is he?

the guy beat shavers, ali and foreman, that's enough to debate him against top level opponents.

The overrated acorn, zombie Ali and the Foreman who nearly died of dehydration immediately after the fight having hallucinations in his dressing room? :patsch:lol: Yeah, Young's on my list of greats who weren't.

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But, no, Liston is well above Young's company, for me. He threw punches, and could stop a moth with them, even.

[Duodenum]

The overrated acorn, zombie Ali and the Foreman who nearly died of dehydration immediately after the fight having hallucinations in his dressing room? :patsch:lol: Yeah, Young's on my list of greats who weren't.

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But, no, Liston is well above Young's company, for me. He threw punches, and could stop a moth with them, even.:thinkHmmm...fishing for cobra, are we?

[techks]

Young would counter him at times but would eventually lose. Leon Spinks would be too active for him and get the decision.

[tommygun711]

Young would counter him at times but would eventually lose. Leon Spinks would be too active for him and get the decision.

:patsch Based on his efforts against Norton and lyle i disagree. Young's defense would negate Leon's activity

[techks]

:patsch Based on his efforts against Norton and lyle i disagree. Young's defense would negate Leon's activity

Or maybe Leon's aggression would negate Young's low activity? Young should win it but not sure if he takes it only because of his negativity.

That being said I thought he beat Norton.

[lufcrazy]

The overrated acorn, zombie Ali and the Foreman who nearly died of dehydration immediately after the fight having hallucinations in his dressing room? :patsch:lol: Yeah, Young's on my list of greats who weren't.

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But, no, Liston is well above Young's company, for me. He threw punches, and could stop a moth with them, even.

your liston hatred i could understand, but this :bart:bart:bart:bart not a fan of yours anymore :dead:dead:dead

[The Kurgan]

Very hard to call. The styles favour the swarming Spinks over the skillfully boxing Young; in terms of the quality of the fighters, Young has a definite edge.

I expect a tough to score fight like Norton-Young, with a lot of wild missing by Spinks and a lot of woeful inaction by Young. However, the difference in class tells in a way that it didn't in Norton-Young, and Young wins a disputable decision.

[red cobra]

The very aura of my post, based on what my opinion has been on Young makes outright reply unnecessary.

[Senor Pepe']

Based on styles,,,,,,,,,

Leon just could have, might possibly have,,,,,,sneaked out a win.

Remember Jody Ballard,,,,,,,,,,who got jobbed out of a decision win over Jimmy.

Leon's faster hands and work ethic over the first half of the fight, might just be
enough to hold off the counter-punching effectiveness of Jimmy in the second-half.

10-Rounds,,,,,,,I'll go with Leon.
12 or 15,,,,,,,,,,Jimmy

[johnmaff36]

Goin by all the Young threads on this board id have to say Jimmy wins by KO R1



Goin by what ive seen of him, jimmy decisions leon quite easily IF he comes to win

[frankenfrank]

Oh Ears, Young isn't in your "esb #insert name#" club along with liston is he?

the guy beat shavers, ali and foreman, that's enough to debate him against top level opponents.
Shavers beat Young twice . Shavers also destroyed Norton who "beat" Young .

[Duodenum]

The very aura of my post, based on what my opinion has been on Young makes outright reply unnecessary.YES!!!:happy The COBRA has eluded the mongoose's trap!

[Stevie G]

The Leon of the first Ali fight vs the Jimmy of the Norton and Foreman fights in a 15 rounder.Who ultimately suceeds.
Jimmy gives Leon a boxing lesson. Maybe 10 rounds to 5 on the cards. Young would also score plenty of 10 - 8 rounds.

[red cobra]

YES!!!:happy The COBRA has eluded the mongoose's trap!
:rofl:rofl:happy:happy

[FastHands(beeb)]

At their respective bests, Young, by a clear UD. History should view the peak Young as level(s) above Neon Leon, imo.

[I am Legion]

Leon would be too busy and agressive for Jimmy. Messy and fairly dull UD for Leon.
:yep:yep

[Legend X]

Leon would be too busy and agressive for Jimmy. Messy and fairly dull UD for Leon.
:yep:yep

I wouldn't be at all surprised.

[Legend X]

Leon did better against Ali than Young did, imo.

But for some reason he doesn't get as much credit for it around here. I guess if the judges say you won, you didn't do well enough - there's more street cred in getting jobbed !

[lufcrazy]

Shavers beat Young twice . Shavers also destroyed Norton who "beat" Young .

1-1 my friend.

you must appreciate that not everyone scores fights based on number of knockdowns :good

[Duodenum]

:rofl:rofl:happy:happyI did not want to see your serpentine persona diced by the diamond sharp wit fangs and adamantium humor claws of Boxed Ears without first donning a metaphorical full body casing of hermetically sealed triple Kevlar armor. (If I was Richard Pryor or Dave Chappelle, I'd have nightmares over the possibility BE might be waiting to heckle me in the audience. Boxed Ears was the true instigator in triggering the on-stage Laugh Factory meltdown of Michael Richards in November 2006, ending his career.)

Some people should not be antagonized here. Burt, HHascup, JohnGarfield and Kikibalt are among those who deserve absolute respect. Attacking certain others means taking your life in your own hands. (Posters who get pissed off at how the classier and more venerated on ESB Classic get mistreated by the ignorant need to be continually looking over their shoulders.)

But Boxed Ears is somebody not to ever cross wits with. I tried once, and he went all Highlander on my head with the first sword strike, and I'm still looking to see where it rolled off to.

[The Kurgan]

YES!!!:happy The COBRA has eluded the mongoose's trap!

I must have Mongoose on ignore by accident, because I can't see his post. :huh

[red cobra]

I did not want to see your serpentine persona diced by the diamond sharp wit fangs and adamantium humor claws of Boxed Ears without first donning a metaphorical full body casing of hermetically sealed triple Kevlar armor. (If I was Richard Pryor or Dave Chappelle, I'd have nightmares over the possibility BE might be waiting to heckle me in the audience. Boxed Ears was the true instigator in triggering the on-stage Laugh Factory meltdown of Michael Richards in November 2006, ending his career.)

Some people should not be antagonized here. Burt, HHascup, JohnGarfield and Kikibalt are among those who deserve absolute respect. Attacking certain others means taking your life in your own hands. (Posters who get pissed off at how the classier and more venerated on ESB Classic get mistreated by the ignorant need to be continually looking over their shoulders.)

But Boxed Ears is somebody not to ever cross wits with. I tried once, and he went all Highlander on my head with the first sword strike, and I'm still looking to see where it rolled off to.
:rofl..Boxing Ears astrides the Colossus of Comedic Capriciousness. He is the Certfied Quintessentially Satirical Satyr of Cosmic Comedic Culpritudinous Conciousness! Don't want to get him "aroused"..:D

[lufcrazy]

Obviously Young should take a wide UD on talent, the reality would probably be an 8-4 type victory.

[frankenfrank]

1-1 my friend.

you must appreciate that not everyone scores fights based on number of knockdowns :good
2(1):0(0) , and i don't appreciate it

[Legend X]

Jimmy Young and Earnie Shavers only fought twice.
The first was a win for Shavers, the second was a draw.

[Duodenum]

:rofl..Boxing Ears astrides the Colossus of Comedic Capriciousness. He is the Certified Quintessentially Satirical Satyr of Cosmic Comedic Culpritudinous Consciousness! Don't want to get him "aroused"..:D:patschAww Jesus! You've been infected with Cosell Disease, the bacterial meningitis of humor!:admin Get away from me!!!:scaredas::bolt(Red, did you step into General without getting vaccinated?:blood Do you have any idea how many exotic illnesses exist there?:pukkeDo you realize what you may have exposed all of us in Classic to?:nono Quarantine yourself IMMEDIATELY, until you can type a complete post without the letter "C!")

[red cobra]

:patschAww Jesus! You've been infected with Cosell Disease, the bacterial meningitis of humor!:admin Get away from me!!!:scaredas::bolt(Red, did you step into General without getting vaccinated?:blood Do you have any idea how many exotic illnesses exist there?:pukkeDo you realize what you may have exposed all of us in Classic to?:nono Quarantine yourself IMMEDIATELY, until you can type a complete post without the letter "C!")
I don't know,I just went to the general for a little while and I started feeling a bit queasy...I left right away but the signs and symptoms persisted,so I got innokulated by Dr.MIke Kasey...I'm feeling a bit better now, but a period of quarantine is kalled for...maybe a kold kompress and a kup of tea...:yuck

[he grant]

The funny thing is that that Leon had a terrible style for Young .. that Leon was very, very fast, threw a ton of punches from all angles and could go all night ... in addition, the feather fisted Young , much like the late career Ali, did not possess the punching power to hold him off .. my point is that styles make fights and this could be an interesting fight ...

[Duodenum]

I don't know,I just went to the general for a little while and I started feeling a bit queasy...I left right away but the signs and symptoms persisted,so I got innokulated by Dr.MIke Kasey...I'm feeling a bit better now, but a period of quarantine is kalled for...maybe a kold kompress and a kup of tea...:yuckOkay, good.:good (Just don't be a kunt.)

[red cobra]

Okay, good.:good (Just don't be a kunt.)
That wouldn't be very kool of me.:D

[red cobra]

I feel almost like starting a thread on the young Kassius Klay, y'know what I'm sayin'?

[Legend X]

Koki Kameda

[tommygun711]

Based on styles,,,,,,,,,

Leon just could have, might possibly have,,,,,,sneaked out a win.

Remember Jody Ballard,,,,,,,,,,who got jobbed out of a decision win over Jimmy.

Leon's faster hands and work ethic over the first half of the fight, might just be
enough to hold off the counter-punching effectiveness of Jimmy in the second-half.

10-Rounds,,,,,,,I'll go with Leon.
12 or 15,,,,,,,,,,Jimmy

completely wrong. Young dominated Ballard. That fight is on film. He dominated him. that was no robbery.

[Kalasinn]

Young at his Peak was vastly superior to Neon Leon, & would make him miss all night.

[red cobra]

In all seriousness..this isn't the Young who took a slide downhill and lost to ossie Ocasio..it should be prime, screwed over Young. He makes Spinks look like a fool. Nice try guys, but prime, '76-'78 Young dosen't lose to the likes of Leon Spinks.

[joebeadg]

Leon was not very very fast, Mike Dokes was though, and Young beat him, didn't get the dec. but beat him non theless. Also, Young was not featherfisted, He busted ali up, and wasn't even going for the kill. He had pop in his punches, nice right hand, and good bodywork, he was just a safety first fighter.

[he grant]

In all seriousness..this isn't the Young who took a slide downhill and lost to ossie Ocasio..it should be prime, screwed over Young. He makes Spinks look like a fool. Nice try guys, but prime, '76-'78 Young dosen't lose to the likes of Leon Spinks.

Young lost to Ossie in 78 ...

[MMJoe]

Jimmy Young died and was reincarnated as Chris Byrd. Could you imagine Chris Byrd losing to Leon? No fucking way!@Jimmy Chris Byrd Young win by easy 15rd sparring session.

[Senor Pepe']

completely wrong. Young dominated Ballard. That fight is on film. He dominated him. that was no robbery.


Jimmy Young was 'horrible' with a capital 'H' in his fight with the
'slightly pudgy' and 15 lb. over-weight Jody Ballard.

Remember the fight in September 1977, Jimmy Young -Jody Ballard
was on the undercard of Ken Norton vs. Lorenzo Zanon.

Jimmy was riding 'high' on his recent upset victory over George Foreman.

Jody was riding a 'spotty record' with 6 losses in his last 9-bouts.

Jody hung with him the whole fight. Despite the judges decision,
I thought Jody won. Jimmy did nothing in that fight, least impressing
anyone.

I had it 3-2 Ballard, with 5 rounds even. That's how bad it was.

[Bummy Davis]

Young handles him easily...I saw Jimmy in the Garden as a prelim fighter and later when he graduated from the school of hard knocks (tough fights and GYM survival) and he handles any version of Leon Spinks easily...The worst version of Jimmy I ever saw was the one who showed up with man-breasts vs Ossie Ocasio, now that version of Jimmy could lose to anyone even Leon Spinks or Ossie Ocasio or Marvis Frazier because that version of Jimmy did not train at all

[Boxed Ears]

I did not want to see your serpentine persona diced by the diamond sharp wit fangs and adamantium humor claws of Boxed Ears without first donning a metaphorical full body casing of hermetically sealed triple Kevlar armor. (If I was Richard Pryor or Dave Chappelle, I'd have nightmares over the possibility BE might be waiting to heckle me in the audience. Boxed Ears was the true instigator in triggering the on-stage Laugh Factory meltdown of Michael Richards in November 2006, ending his career.)

Some people should not be antagonized here. Burt, HHascup, JohnGarfield and Kikibalt are among those who deserve absolute respect. Attacking certain others means taking your life in your own hands. (Posters who get pissed off at how the classier and more venerated on ESB Classic get mistreated by the ignorant need to be continually looking over their shoulders.)

But Boxed Ears is somebody not to ever cross wits with. I tried once, and he went all Highlander on my head with the first sword strike, and I'm still looking to see where it rolled off to.

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Made my day, this. Cheers to this whole thread. Building up this kind of rapport on another site-I wouldn't have the energy. Long-live ESB.

[tommygun711]

Jimmy Young was 'horrible' with a capital 'H' in his fight with the
'slightly pudgy' and 15 lb. over-weight Jody Ballard.

Remember the fight in September 1977, Jimmy Young -Jody Ballard
was on the undercard of Ken Norton vs. Lorenzo Zanon.

Jimmy was riding 'high' on his recent upset victory over George Foreman.

Jody was riding a 'spotty record' with 6 losses in his last 9-bouts.

Jody hung with him the whole fight. Despite the judges decision,
I thought Jody won. Jimmy did nothing in that fight, least impressing
anyone.

I had it 3-2 Ballard, with 5 rounds even. That's how bad it was.

Man I swear we are talking about a different fight. young dominated him in the fight im talkign about.

Is this the same fight we are talking about? because Young dominated him here. Cmon.

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[Nightcrawler]

Young would counter him at times but would eventually lose. Leon Spinks would be too active for him and get the decision.

:deal plus leon, you know, TRIED to win

[Boxed Ears]

:deal plus leon, you know, TRIED to win

Oh, I say, that's a fine point. Part of Leon's game was to go ahead and punch. Young can't say the same...

[Nightcrawler]

Oh, I say, that's a fine point. Part of Leon's game was to go ahead and punch. Young can't say the same...

young did often try to...not lose. that's gotta count for something

[he grant]

Young handles him easily...I saw Jimmy in the Garden as a prelim fighter and later when he graduated from the school of hard knocks (tough fights and GYM survival) and he handles any version of Leon Spinks easily...The worst version of Jimmy I ever saw was the one who showed up with man-breasts vs Ossie Ocasio, now that version of Jimmy could lose to anyone even Leon Spinks or Ossie Ocasio or Marvis Frazier because that version of Jimmy did not train at all

Number One , the claim he did not train at all is not only false but if it had any degree of truth would simply expose another weakness of Young's and that was he was never the best conditioned guy ... in addition, in a make or break career fight he immediately got a rematch w Ossie and lost that one too ... this was right after his "title" bout with Norton .. the reality was that Young was simply not that great .. he was a cutie , very effective against big, slower sluggers like Lyle or nervous wrecks like Foreman but more of an annoyance than a risk for faster guys that had stamina and could out work him ...

[techks]

Oh, I say, that's a fine point. Part of Leon's game was to go ahead and punch. Young can't say the same...

Sometimes he hit ya sometimes he didn't....10 losses in a row.....

Number One , the claim he did not train at all is not only false but if it had any degree of truth would simply expose another weakness of Young's and that was he was never the best conditioned guy ... in addition, in a make or break career fight he immediately got a rematch w Ossie and lost that one too ... this was right after his "title" bout with Norton .. the reality was that Young was simply not that great .. he was a cutie , very effective against big, slower sluggers like Lyle or nervous wrecks like Foreman but more of an annoyance than a risk for faster guys that had stamina and could out work him ...

Pretty much. Good fighter but never higher than contender status and lacked the dedication in his fights to yunno, fight.

:deal plus leon, you know, TRIED to win

Back to my point about his lack of dedication in his fights. Spoiled and was hard to hit clean but his low,very low workrate would make fights much harder than they had to be. Fights such as against Occasio and even Ali for instance.

[Senor Pepe']

Tommy G,

It was kind of a semi-rugged bout, Jimmy Young vs. Jody Ballard.

I expected more from Jimmy, and he was 'not impressive', maybe that's
why I thought Jody Ballard won.

On Jimmy vs. Leon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,depends on Jimmy's motivation level.

[Nightcrawler]

:lol::lol::lol::lol: Made my day, this. Cheers to this whole thread. Building up this kind of rapport on another site-I wouldn't have the energy. Long-live ESB.

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[he grant]

Tommy G,

It was kind of a semi-rugged bout, Jimmy Young vs. Jody Ballard.

I expected more from Jimmy, and he was 'not impressive', maybe that's
why I thought Jody Ballard won.

On Jimmy vs. Leon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,depends on Jimmy's motivation level.

The Jody Ballard bout followed Young's career win v.s. Foreman and was part of a nationally televised prime time showcase ... Holmes fought Sanford Houpe and Norton fought in the main event ... another top heavyweight fought as well but I forget, possibly Lyle ... the point is that this was a huge fight for Young on national television coming off the Foreman victory with him poised for another title bout and half way through the fight he's losing to a fringe contender at best ... that was Jimmy Young ... he was a spoiler, a defensive specialist with decent speed and a good chin but he very often fought down to this opponent's level and was always troubled by guys that threw lots of punches with speed ... he was most often better at making another guy look bad than having himself dominate anyone .. it's just the type of fighter he was ...

[tommygun711]

Tommy G,

It was kind of a semi-rugged bout, Jimmy Young vs. Jody Ballard.

I expected more from Jimmy, and he was 'not impressive', maybe that's
why I thought Jody Ballard won.

On Jimmy vs. Leon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,depends on Jimmy's motivation level.

early on jody won rounds. then young completely took over. i think you didnt watch the same fight as me

[MRBILL]

I'm game... I say the motivated Feb. 1978 Leon Spinks of 197 ripped pounds of muscle tears into a defensive Jimmy Young of that very year and out-works the more seasoned veteran....

Of course Young was more skilled than Spinks ever was, but Spinks had it together in 1978... Yes, Yes, Leon was schooled by Ali in the Sept. '78 rematch, but Ali was in great shape and motivated to regain the title... Spinks was tuff / game down in New Orleans, but totally out-classed by Ali...

Had Leon fought Jimmy in 1978, I'm guessing Leon Spinks would win on aggression and work-rate alone... Jimmy Young was often lazy / sluggish....

MR.BILL

[tommygun711]

If Young is in his prime (75-77) he will school leon. Leon will come bobbing and weaving in and Young will pick him off with a few shots and then hold him. Young seriously hurt Lyle, Norton, & Foreman, so I'm sure he would be able to keep leon off and tie him up when needed.

I guess I can see a scenario where Leon outworks Young to a decision, but the only way that would happen is if Young was out of shape/unmotivated. People like to forget that post Norton, Young had no motivation for the sport anymore because he was always robbed and turned to drugs.

[Legend X]

People like to forget that post Norton, Young had no motivation for the sport anymore because he was always robbed and turned to drugs.

I would actually like to forget the stinkeroo challenge Young produced against Ali in 1976.
But it's ingrained in my memory, like a shit stain.

[tommygun711]

I would actually like to forget the stinkeroo challenge Young produced against Ali in 1976.
But it's ingrained in my memory, like a shit stain.

Ali didn't do shit either.

[MRBILL]

No, neither Ali or Young did much in the ring back in '76, but Ali still was the seemingly bigger, stronger and more aggressive ringman that night... Young boxed well and offset Ali to a degree, but Young never threatened Ali or seemed willing to engage Ali in a real fight... Ali being the champ, got the nod on my card after 15 rds of hi-tech sparring...

MR.BILL

[frankenfrank]

I'm game... I say the motivated Feb. 1978 Leon Spinks of 197 ripped pounds of muscle tears into a defensive Jimmy Young of that very year and out-works the more seasoned veteran....

Of course Young was more skilled than Spinks ever was, but Spinks had it together in 1978... Yes, Yes, Leon was schooled by Ali in the Sept. '78 rematch, but Ali was in great shape and motivated to regain the title... Spinks was tuff / game down in New Orleans, but totally out-classed by Ali...

Had Leon fought Jimmy in 1978, I'm guessing Leon Spinks would win on aggression and work-rate alone... Jimmy Young was often lazy / sluggish....

MR.BILL

as usual BILL kipping it RILL .
But I disagree about Jimmy Young being more skilled , punching is a great part of d SKILL , and of what i've seen of Leon which wasn't much (saw him vs Qawi and Holmes i believe ) he really wasn't bad (at least not vs Holmes) in terms of SKILL .
How exactly could Jimmy Young beat n agressive fighter who could pressure him and keep him @ bay if he barely punched ? I read that Foreman was drained against him (despite i can't think of a reason 4 a HW 2b drained other than his trainers but also his own idiocy) and that it was another very hot time & place . I watched that fight , but dehydration & heat r not very visible on film .
Other agressive fighters Jimmy Young fought ? Shavers*2 (and Shavers stopped him once and deserved 2 win d rematch as well) and Ron Lyle , 10 rds *2 , and IDK if Young deserved 2 win those decisions .

[tommygun711]

Other agressive fighters Ali fought ? Shavers*2 (and Shavers stopped him once and deserved 2 win d rematch as well) and Ron Lyle , 10 rds *2 , and IDK if Young deserved 2 win those decisions .

he did. watch the videos.

[frankenfrank]

he did. watch the videos.
Even if he did i think Ron Lyle was hindered due 2 his advanced age in most of his proffessional fights , and people never take it in2 consideration . Only d heroes r allowed 2 get old . D bad guys r always prime and all of their losses count . As much as 1 is more (of a) hero , d quicker he gets older and past his prime . Lyle was 34 and then 35 vs Jimmy Young .

[red cobra]

yeah, kip it rill bill.

[tommygun711]

Even if he did i think Ron Lyle was hindered due 2 his advanced age in most of his proffessional fights , and people never take it in2 consideration . Only d heroes r allowed 2 get old . D bad guys r always prime and all of their losses count . As much as 1 is more (of a) hero , d quicker he gets older and past his prime . Lyle was 34 and then 35 vs Jimmy Young .

Lyle started boxing late, so there is no way he was more aged than Young was. Lyle was prime in both fights. He tried to stop Young, Young was just too slippery and slick.

[Senor Pepe']

Tommy G,

I remember the Jimmy Young -Jody Ballard fight,,,,,,,,,'Night of the Heavyweights'

Jimmy vs. Jody,,,,,,,,,,,put everybody to sleep.

I just couldn't score it for Jimmy, as I liked him, and was waiting for him to do
something.

40-Minutes of 'modified sleep-walking'.

I'll still go with Leon Spinks over Jimmy in 10-Rounds though.

[frankenfrank]

Lyle started boxing late, so there is no way he was more aged than Young was. Lyle was prime in both fights. He tried to stop Young, Young was just too slippery and slick.

what a great reasoning . so if my uncle'll start boxing @ a fresh 46 yirs of age , he wud b just as young , fresh and spry like a 1985 Maik Tyson . (My uncle is rili tyson's age , i believe they were even born d same month , but he never wore gloves nor did he enter a ring as far as i know , probably just a few street encounters back in his day , nothing more , he doesn't even have d wear & tear of
taison's amateur days)



regarding Young's slikkness : i wonder how slikk he'd b if their ages were reversed in both of their fights , just a matter 4 thought

[frankenfrank]

yeah, kip it rill bill.

bill iz kiping it ril

[red cobra]

bill iz kiping it ril
u bechha!!:nut

[he grant]

If Young is in his prime (75-77) he will school leon. Leon will come bobbing and weaving in and Young will pick him off with a few shots and then hold him. Young seriously hurt Lyle, Norton, & Foreman, so I'm sure he would be able to keep leon off and tie him up when needed.

I guess I can see a scenario where Leon outworks Young to a decision, but the only way that would happen is if Young was out of shape/unmotivated. People like to forget that post Norton, Young had no motivation for the sport anymore because he was always robbed and turned to drugs.

Are we just making stuff up ? Young "seriously" hurt who ?

Foreman was beyond exhausted. That shot could not break an egg.

Lyle was tattooed for rounds and rounds and barely budget ... maybe slightly stung for a second or so once from exhaustion .

Norton was never rocked at all ..

You forgot to mention where he dropped Ali ... :nut

[he grant]

Lyle started boxing late, so there is no way he was more aged than Young was. Lyle was prime in both fights. He tried to stop Young, Young was just too slippery and slick.

Lyle was 34 for their first bout and 36 for their second ... no one is in their physical prime at that age except Marciano's top four career opponents ... LOL ... sorry, could not resist ... :nono

[red cobra]

Leon Spinks dosen't come close to beating Jimmy Young. All Spinks would need in this fight would be a red rubber nose, clown make up and a big purple wig..because that's how foolish Young would make him look.

[Joe E]

Young spanks Spinks without to much problem.

[red cobra]

Young spanks Spinks without to much problem.
I agree, but I really like "spanks Spinks"..nice phrase.:D

[Flea Man]

your liston hatred i could understand, but this :bart:bart:bart:bart not a fan of yours anymore :dead:dead:dead

Young wasn't all that. I'm with Ears on this one.

[Stevie G]

Young wasn't all that. I'm with Ears on this one.

Young was one of the top heavyweights of the seventies. And we all know how great that decade was for that division.

[Boxed Ears]

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:lol: ATG film. The Scottish character has a French accent. The Spanish character has a Scottish accent. The one guy with the safety pins in his throat becomes a main character on Spongebob Squarepants. It's fokin' amazing. :happy

Young wasn't all that. I'm with Ears on this one.

Good man. :D

Young was one of the top heavyweights of the seventies. And we all know how great that decade was for that division.

I can see the poster now...


The Seventies: Where even losing in the least inspirational ways humanly possible... makes you great