David Haye vs. Jean Marc Mormeck

[Superheavyweight]

:smokeHaye TKO 10:!:

[Smith]

:bbb HAYE TKO 8 :bbb

[China_hand_Joe]

I regard Haye as the better talent but am not too keen on the weight for him.

[scurlaruntings]

This is a distinct possibility.If he can make 200 correct and comfortably his power should certainly be enough to hurt and stop the frenchman mid to late.

[Words]

Gonna be hard, Mormeck is dangerous when he plants his feet and lets rip with those overhand rights, they're just perfect to get past Haye's lazy low left hand. But to be honest Haye is younger, much bigger, much stronger and I think should just about have the edge.

This could be fight of the year, David Haye is NEVER in a boring fight.

[Fitir]

Mormeck is past it now and he could be a bit demotivated since it's not the fight he wanted : he wanted a shot at the undisputed title against Cunningham.
From what I saw of Haye against Mock, Thompson and Fragomeni he is a very promising prospect with much power but he seems fragile and it could be a problem against a pressure boxer like Mormeck.
Guys who think Haye is too tall, too skilled, too powerful and that Mormeck will be unable to find the target never watched a fight with Mormeck.
Skills : Mormeck boxed good technicians like Virgil Hill and Dale Brown and he had no special problems to land clean punches. Hill and Brown have good jabs, they were able to avoid/counterpunch guys like Brudov or Bell but they were unable to do that as efficiently against Mormeck. If Mormeck was really such a 1D boxer he would have struggled as well.
Size : Mormeck fought at middle at amateur. He is a natural LHW who came at cruiser cause Acaries would have never given him a shot at Girard's WBA LHW title (Mormeck never signed with Acaries...) Mormeck is small as a cruiser and he has always fought taller guys : Braithwaite and Bell are taller guys who can punch and Mormeck was able to land his own shots. Bell hits very hard but even in their first fight he had to take punishment in the first rounds. It won't be different with Haye and I think he will have to be ready to take punishment if he really wants the win.
It seems Haye likes to talk. Mormeck won't talk but he will come to fight, he will be prepared by Giachetti and the fight is in his hometown.
Haye is young, overconfident but I don't expect an easy victory. If he really thinks Mormeck is a warm up before a move at heavy he will be surprised...

[Toopretty]

Mormeck is a smart fighter. But Haye has a good str8 right hand with a lot of power. He has nothing else truly powerful in his arsenal. He will live and die on it. I think Mormeck will notice that he likes bombing away with that right hand and he will put himself in position to counter with his own. If Haye can take it, he will win. But if Mormeck gets past his lazy jab and not intimidated by his size and goes right at him he can stop Haye. Should be an entertaining fight kind of like bull/matador but the bull is the smarter fighter.....:ko

[brooklyn1550]

Haye TKO8 Mormeck

[Steve Fox]

Haye KO 2

[sandwichsurgeon]

Haye KO 2

When Mormecks corner throw in the white fl....towel

[BigEars]

QOF0XLBhfbo, I wouldn't call the jab Haye used here lazy but you're right in the fact that the staright right hand really is Haye's money punch . He can throw a decent uppercut with either hand too though , and works the body well with both hands .

[jc]

Haye KO in 9

[o_money]

AAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

Fuck yA! Soo pumped about this fight!:happy:happy:happy:happy:happy

[o_money]

haye by TKO in the late rounds. In a war!!!!

[Steve Fox]

haye by TKO in the late rounds. In a war!!!!A Frenchman in a war...sounds a little far-fetched to me.

[Metal Man]

I'm British but have no real allegiences when it comes to nationality.I hope Mormeck knocks the cocky bastard out.The affable front he puts on for the media dos'nt wash with me,the guys cocky beyond the parameter of self confidence.The ridiculous statement he made after his blow out of journeymen Bonin regarding being able to take out any heavyweight world champion that night was laughable.Does this clown really believe this.Forget Klitschko,Chagaev would blow him out within five rounds.His flasy,wanna be hard puncher,thinks he can blow anyone out style would be tailer made for a stocky,strong fast power puncher like Chagaev or Povetkin for that matter.Their brutal knockouts waiting for this clown once he steps up in weight which he intends by all accounts to do once he's through with Mormeck.

[shady al]

I'm British but have no real allegiences when it comes to nationality.I hope Mormeck knocks the cocky bastard out.The affable front he puts on for the media dos'nt wash with me,the guys cocky beyond the parameter of self confidence.The ridiculous statement he made after his blow out of journeymen Bonin regarding being able to take out any heavyweight world champion that night was laughable.Does this clown really believe this.Forget Klitschko,Chagaev would blow him out within five rounds.His flasy,wanna be hard puncher,thinks he can blow anyone out style would be tailer made for a stocky,strong fast power puncher like Chagaev or Povetkin for that matter.Their brutal knockouts waiting for this clown once he steps up in weight which he intends by all accounts to do once he's through with Mormeck.
Is that you Enzo?

[Amsterdam]

I'm thinking Haye in 4 rounds or less, seeing as Mormeck can be hurt and that Haye has tremendous HW power...

But I also know Haye's jaw isn't the best around.

[MancMexican]

A Frenchman in a war...sounds a little far-fetched to me.


HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

[MancMexican]

I want Haye to win because I think boxing (especially at those top two weights) needs an exciting young talent.... but lets be honest here, he's lost to a much lesser fighter previously, hes not really fought "game" opponents since and he has problems at the cruiserweight weight.

I'm picking Mormeck will take him late, exhaust him and land the heavier blows in the final rounds - there are huge question marks over Haye's chin, stamina and ability at "The next level"

Mormeck has a proven chin, proven stamina and proven ability.

I've got to go with Frenchy.

Mormeck has been exhausted and barely able to fight in the championship rounds of his last two fights and has been pretty inactive as a fighter recently. In fact I think he was more blown in the 2nd Bell fight than in the first. His stamina isnt great. But Haye's isnt proven either and I don't think a novice Haye losing against an old veteran is much of a stain.

[Fitir]

A Frenchman in a war...sounds a little far-fetched to me.
??? You never watched a fight with Mormeck or what ?

[Amsterdam]

Mormeck has been exhausted and barely able to fight in the championship rounds of his last two fights and has been pretty inactive as a fighter recently. In fact I think he was more blown in the 2nd Bell fight than in the first. His stamina isnt great. But Haye's isnt proven either and I don't think a novice Haye losing against an old veteran is much of a stain.

I'm just going off of how Mormeck's only fought good hitters, but never monsterous hitters.

Haye is a monsterous hitter, where as Bell is just a proficient hitter and had KOed Mormeck on exhaustion, but also had hurt him several times also. I don't think Mormeck has chin problems of any type, but I do think that he can't be given anything above a "good" rating for his chin, and a monsterous puncher can easily stop a guy with a decent-good chin.

Mormeck's not made of iron and Haye will easily land his best and stun Mormeck, I also feel that Haye is a fantastic finisher.

[flem1]

I think Mormeck TKO's Haye in the 6th. His experience, pressure, and power will be too much for Haye...

[Amsterdam]

I think Mormeck TKO's Haye in the 6th. His experience, pressure, and power will be too much for Haye...

An appreciation of Megan Fox, very good.:yep

[o_money]

A Frenchman in a war...sounds a little far-fetched to me.

hey I'm french pal!

lol, nah no worries its all in good fun.

[Steve Fox]

hey I'm french pal!

lol, nah no worries its all in good fun.Being serious, I like the French as a nationality. I've been on holiday there about ten times.

[Superheavyweight]

And the new undisputed cruiserweight champion of the world…
QOF0XLBhfbo

[Superheavyweight]

Is Haye the favourite?

[Superheavyweight]

:bbb

[RUSKULL]

Mormeck by mid to late rounds TKO

[Cruiser1]

Mormeck is 35, coming off 2 wars with Bell, and probably on the way down. This looks to be the end of the road for him.

This is basically a passing of the torch fight but u know what...the torch isn't changing hands so easily. Bell made Mormeck very uncomfortable with his workrate and style but that won't happen here. Haye's a more conventional fighter. He can bang no doubt but Mormeck's got a chin. Haye's a talented fighter and his chances of winning this fight are good but if he thinks he's gonna walk in there and blow Jean Marc out like he did Gurov and Bonin he's got another thing coming. Mormeck can fight and it seems alot of people are overlooking this.

[Ding]

Mormeck is 35, coming off 2 wars with Bell, and probably on the way down. This looks to be the end of the road for him.

This is basically a passing of the torch fight but u know what...the torch isn't changing hands so easily. Bell made Mormeck very uncomfortable with his workrate and style but that won't happen here. Haye's a more conventional fighter. He can bang no doubt but Mormeck's got a chin. Haye's a talented fighter and his chances of winning this fight are good but if he thinks he's gonna walk in there and blow Jean Marc out like he did Gurov and Bonin he's got another thing coming. Mormeck can fight and it seems alot of people are overlooking this.


Thats actually one of the big keys to the fight. How Haye will be

mentally once he connects and thows alot of shit at Mormeck and he is

still there coming at Haye throwing nasty body shots along with

constant pressure. Haye better fight smart and use his god given talent

cause his ego can land him in a world of trouble.:good

[Cruiser1]

Thats actually one of the big keys to the fight. How Haye will be

mentally once he connects and thows alot of shit at Mormeck and he is

still there coming at Haye throwing nasty body shots along with

constant pressure. Haye better fight smart and use his god given talent

cause his ego can land him in a world of trouble.:good

I heard he was a model at one point. His ego may end up being his undoing in boxing. If Mormeck shows that he can take Haye's punches (something I think he is entirely capable of doing) it's gonna be a long night for the Brit. You are correct, we'll see how much substance Haye has if he hits Mormeck flush and nothing happens.

I'm interested to see what Mormeck has left in the tank at 35 following the Bell fights. This may be his last hurrah so expect him to fight accordingly.

[mustang sally]

:smokeHaye TKO 10:!:

Finally given up on Audley?

[TBooze]

I hope I am wrong, but I suspect Mormeck has too much for Haye:

Mormeck WU12 7-5

[Kegsy]

I reckon Haye knocks Mormeck off.

[Fitir]

News about Mormeck. It seems the interview Mormeck gave to L'Equipe ("My next fight could be against Tiozzo...without the titles") was a smoke screen. He will come to win. He is very dedicated, he wants to be 100% and he takes Haye VERY seriously. The goal has not changed, Mormeck still wants to obtain the 3 main belts to be considered as the undisputed champion at cruiser (he never obtained the IBF belt). A defeat against Haye would mean the end of his dream.
Mormeck chose to keep Giachetti (former coach of Larry Holmes) in his corner but they changed the preparation. Preparation for Bell 2 was in Monaco (alt 10m) , this time Mormeck prepares in L'Alpe d'Huez (alt 1860m) and La Bourboule (alt 850m) . The goal is simple : improving the condition and the stamina.
Comments from Giachetti about Haye : "What I know about Haye is that he failed at the olympics as an amateur. It seems he has problems to take big punches."
Mormeck just said "I will come to defend my belts against David Haye. It is a big risk. But I don't see why I couln't be better than him".
Mormeck hasn't been so serious for ages : it seems Haye is considered as a big threat ! Haye will have to fight a top shape version of Mormeck and it's a good thing for him : nobody will contest Haye is the man at cruiser if he destroys Mormeck in a couple of rounds.

[bratwurzt]

It's so obvious that Haye isn't a ****** fighter as he's clearly not being protected from anyone. Compare his opposition to Macranelli's, it's laughable.

[Fedor Em]

I think Haye stops him late, Mormeck has gassed in big fights a few times.

[Fitir]

What is this joke ? Maccarinelli fought Braithwaite and he couldn't fight Fragomeni ? Even if Braithwaite has much faded since Mormeck, he was once the number 1 at cruiser. Big Truck destroyed solid guys like Brown, Cantatore, Azille etc. He was still a better test than the old Fragomeni who stuggled in his hometown against Serrat...

[The Kurgan]

Stop supporting Haye, Superheavyweight. You're worrying me. :scaredas:

[emanuel_augustus]

Haye certainly has potential, but he has to prove it to me first. Mormeck is a seasoned champion with experience in big title fights.

He does sometimes fail to pace himself, but in the rematch with Bell his stamina was much better.

Age could always be a factor here, but I think Mormeck has the experience, strength and relentless pressure to wear Haye down if he doesn't get caught early, and probably take a grinder type decision.

Mormeck is my pick here until Haye shows himself to be a champion. Maybe he does that here, but I still say JMM by UD.

Mormeck is 35, coming off 2 wars with Bell, and probably on the way down. This looks to be the end of the road for him.

How does it look to be the end of the road? Simply because he's 35? Well, maybe, but he sure didn't show it in the Bell rematch. He fought a great fight there and proved himself to be the best Cruiser in the world. Nothing yet has indicated at all that he's shot.

[Stickandmove]

Haye TKO2 Mormeck. Haye has TOO much power and catapults to superstar status with a devastating battering of Mormeck.

But if Mormeck survives beyond 4 rounds I fancy him to stop a tiring Haye in the mid to late rounds much like Carl Thompson did. Haye may have learnt from that loss but he's tight at 200 pounds and I believe this will show in a longer fight.

[Steve Fox]

I can't believe people still go on about Haye having stamina issues. The Thompson fight was a fair while ago and looked okay against Fragomeni. Producing a KO in the ninth round of fight like that would suggest he's probably all right when it comes down to stamina.

[Superheavyweight]

Finally given up on Audley?Never!
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
:bbb

[Stickandmove]

I can't believe people still go on about Haye having stamina issues. The Thompson fight was a fair while ago and looked okay against Fragomeni. Producing a KO in the ninth round of fight like that would suggest he's probably all right when it comes down to stamina.

Yes, he's PROBABLY all right when it comes down to stamina I agree. But there's a chance he'll still be left wanting late when facing a strong pressure fighter like Mormeck.

It's hard to forget the image of a static, robotic Haye hardly being able to move against Carl Thompson. He made a spent Frank Bruno look like Pernell Whitaker at that moment.

[Asterion]

Hopefully Haye will KO Mormeck and then become a heavyweight contender.

[Steve Fox]

Yes, he's PROBABLY all right when it comes down to stamina I agree. But there's a chance he'll still be left wanting late when facing a strong pressure fighter like Mormeck.

It's hard to forget the image of a static, robotic Haye hardly being able to move against Carl Thompson. He made a spent Frank Bruno look like Pernell Whitaker at that moment.He wasn't used to fighters being able to take those punches, he just kept battering away and punched himself out. I wouldn't generally call Haye static and robotic and he's never done the Bruno thing where when someone hits the magic button, he drops his hands and stands there like a Mortal Kombat character awaiting a fatality.

[Superheavyweight]

:bbb