Mayweather to mma...this is BS right ?..

[boxingcar]

Floyd Mayweather Jr., the world's No. 1 boxer, is strongly considering a revolutionary jump to mixed martial arts under a deal being discussed with Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban.

Leonard Ellerbe, Mayweather's adviser and best friend, told ESPN.com Friday night that the five-division world champion, who generated 3.25 million pay-per-view buys and more than $200 million in revenue in two mega fights in 2007, came away from a Thursday meeting with Cuban giving serious thought to taking his game and considerable drawing power to MMA.

"It's definitely something he is interested in, and when Floyd makes his move, obviously it's going to be a mega event," Ellerbe said. "We don't have a timetable. Floyd is taking some time off, but Floyd understands what is involved. You have to take time to go out and understand what you're getting involved in, and he's ready to do that. But it's something he's definitely interested in doing.

"Mark Cuban is a very successful business man and has some very, very successful business ventures that we've discussed. We're looking to do a lot of business with Mark. He's a great guy, and we had a great meeting. Doing an MMA event with him is most definitely something we are looking at, among many things we are looking at doing with Mark Cuban."

Mayweather's interest in participating in an MMA event was sparked after he struck up a friendship with Cuban during their participation this season as contestants on the ABC reality series "Dancing with the Stars."

Cuban was Mayweather's guest at the fight and even carried two of his championship belts into the ring before he knocked out England's Ricky Hatton to retain the welterweight world championship Dec. 8 in Las Vegas.

Mayweather and Cuban were together again Thursday in Las Vegas, where they met to discuss various business ventures, including Mayweather participating in an MMA event.

A few boxers, such as former heavyweight contenders Ray Mercer and Frans Botha, have attempted to compete in mixed martial arts with little success. Mayweather's entrance would bring it to another level, especially at a time when the sports have been pitted against each other by fans and media -- MMA as the hotshot newcomer trying to overtake the century-old, more traditional sweet science.

One of Cuban's many business interests is ownership of HDNet Fights, a fledgling mixed martial arts promotional company whose bouts are aired on Cuban's HDNet. Cuban promoted his second event Dec. 15 in Dallas.

"Floyd is considering fighting with HDNet Fights," Cuban told ESPN.com. "We are going to let him visit some gyms to talk to some folks about what it would take to learn. He knows it won't be easy. But he is getting involved with MMA and HDNet Fights one way or another. He is pumped about it. He wants to go on to the next big thing. Floyd is a brilliant marketer. He follows the money."

Indeed, Mayweather, like Cuban, knows how to make money. Mayweather, 30, won the year's two biggest fights, a decision against Oscar De La Hoya in May in a fight that shattered all boxing revenue records and a 10th-round knockout of Hatton that did 850,000 buys and $47 million in television revenue on HBO PPV.

Mayweather-De La Hoya, with 2.4 million buys, set the all-time PPV record. Mayweather-Hatton was the biggest PPV fight in history not involving De La Hoya or heavyweights Mike Tyson and Evander Holyfield.

Mayweather earned about $50 million for the two fights.

"If I said there's a guaranteed $30 million payday, Floyd would be lacing them up," Cuban said, optimistic that Mayweather would eventually participate in an MMA match. "If not, I could see him working to train and develop and invest in MMA fighters, knowing the upside. He can teach them how to be a better boxer and add to their other skills."

After each of his last three fights, Mayweather has talked about retirement or, at least, an extended break. Ellerbe said Mayweather is on vacation now but that when he returns, they'll discuss the prospect of an MMA bout in more detail.

"Floyd is about taking on challenges," Ellerbe said. "This ain't some kind of prank. That is one of many things we've talked about with Mark. Floyd would have to take time to really understand it, but it is most definitely something he is interested in."

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[Filmnpuck]

I really hope this is a bunch of bullshit.

[Dostoevsky]

A load of nonsense.

[ufoalf]

I hope it's the truth. Mayweather, as much as i don't like his personality, is a very rare athlete. I think he would be great in MMA if he studies ground defense for couple of years. With his natural ability Im sure he'll pick it up very fast.

You guys even serious right now? Wtf is wrong with you kids... this is #1 p4p boxer in the world. He was seeded out from THOUSANDS of other boxers. Personally, I can't wait to see what he could do in a cage.

[Koa]

I'll believe it when I see it..

Hopefully they don't throw Floyd right to the wolves and bring him into the sport right, not just make some stupid boxing vs MMA spectacle and overmatch him.

[Shanger]

I hope it's the truth. Mayweather, as much as i don't like his personality, is a very rare athlete. I think he would be great in MMA if he studies ground defense for couple of years. With his natural ability Im sure he'll pick it up very fast.

You guys even serious right now? Wtf is wrong with you kids... this is #1 p4p boxer in the world. He was seeded out from THOUSANDS of other boxers. Personally, I can't wait to see what he could do in a cage.


Don't think it will happen, but agree 100%.

[demzor]

will never happen

Cuban just trying to hype up hdnet fights. Mayweather just trying to hype up himself :P

[Alo2006]

It's all promotion, it's what he do best :lol:

[younghypnotiq]

even if he does do it he wont do well. hes not the type of boxer that will do well in MMA besides he wont be able to do his philly shel thing

[ravtrav]

Yves Edwards ko's Floyd

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

I would love to see this.

[thatboyelite]

First let me say this, I respect what Floyd has done in the ring. He is pound for pound the best. I would love to see him fight Cotto.

BUT!!!

When I look at him, I see a little boy who trys to act like a man.

he trys to come off real cocky and confident, but this dude is a kid inside.

Now look at him now, hes talking about doing something that will not pay a fraction of the money he is used to and he would have to start from ground zero.

Hes Just talking out his ass right now. He wants to please his new fake friends. (Mark Cuban) What I mean by fake friends is people who dont know the real you and you dont know the real them. It will pass[/URL] [URL="[Only registered and activated users can see links]"][Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

[thatboyelite]

AND!! If he did do it, he will have done somethign I thought he couldnt ever do.

Take part in a even more boring fight

[boxingcar]

AND!! If he did do it, he will have done somethign I thought he couldnt ever do.

Take part in a even more boring fight it'll be everything "but" boring..
In boxing , it's predictable...We all know what he's worth / capable of...and he's too fast for most of his opponents...

there's things you can get away with in boxing but not in mma..
No one's gonna separate the fighters during the clinch like they do in boxing...

Personally i think he'll never do it...
but if a miracle happens , and if he really decides to cross the line and give mma a try...He'll never be as dominant that's for sure.

It's a huge sacrifice...but i guess money will have the last word , and could convince him to do it. I don't see it happening..but you never know.

He's gonna have to worry about subs , knees , elbows , wrestling , judo , kicks....He's in for a major change if he's serious about this..

[sugarngold]

This is part of some game Floyd is playing. He will not participate in MMA. Even if there was a hint of truth in thi - he would need to train in the various MMA disciplines for a few years just to make sure he doesn't get crushed against the first non-jobber he met in the octagon.

Floyd will never compete in MMA.

[scurlaruntings]

O please.Mark Cuban is an ass.This guy has so much money he doesnt even know what to do with it.FLOYD will NEVER fight in MMA thats REAL!

[sprite]

he will do very well in MMA. he will rise to the top thats for sure.

[Dostoevsky]

he will do very well in MMA. he will rise to the top thats for sure.

How so?
He has 0 grappling experience or training. It would take at minimum a year to get the basic fundamentals down. And that would just be good against bums but if he ever came up against someone good then Floyd is facing a beating.

Not to mention his hands would be a crumpled mess after punching with his baby hands in those 4oz gloves.

[iksrtfo]

Guys have fought in the UFC after training for 2 years. They never made waved but they did make it to the big leagues. PBF, is a natural athlete who is gifted, has all day to train and is already the best boxer in the world.

I believe it would take him a fraction of the time to be ready as it would take anyone else. I mean Kimbo has a deal.................

[sprite]

How so?
He has 0 grappling experience or training. It would take at minimum a year to get the basic fundamentals down. And that would just be good against bums but if he ever came up against someone good then Floyd is facing a beating.

Not to mention his hands would be a crumpled mess after punching with his baby hands in those 4oz gloves.
how?

he is a superior athlete (went to the olympics turned pro fights against the best etc.)


period.

[Dostoevsky]

What do you mean by supeior athlete? How is he a superior athlete to a lot of MMA fighters? Are the olympics now a barometer on how athletic someone is? :lol:
I don't think so. Even if it was there are plenty of Olympians in MMA to match PBF's Athleticism.

[sprite]

pbf is a great athlete. if one is a better athlete than the next person then he/she would theoretically be better than the next person at pursuing athletic activities that involve strength, speed, stamina, etc.

yeah. so in theory pbf should rule mma.

[younghypnotiq]

no ur an idiot. you need skill aswell

[sprite]

no ur an idiot. you need skill aswell

look whos talking

if two people of the same skill square off against each other then who will win?

the weaker, slower one? im sure you think so.

[Dostoevsky]

look whos talking

if two people of the same skill square off against each other then who will win?

the weaker, slower one? im sure you think so.

But Floyd won't be facing people of the same skill, he'll be facing master grapplers at BJJ, wrestling, judo. He'll have to deal with strikers from different arts. How will PBF cope when a fighter puts his hands around his head, pulls it down makes him say hello to Mr Knee?

He may dominate the slower weaker opponents in boxing but when he comes to fight someone who has more skill than him in more areas, PBF will get a mudhole stomped in him. Period.

[sprite]

But Floyd won't be facing people of the same skill, he'll be facing master grapplers at BJJ, wrestling, judo. He'll have to deal with strikers from different arts. How will PBF cope when a fighter puts his hands around his head, pulls it down makes him say hello to Mr Knee?

He may dominate the slower weaker opponents in boxing but when he comes to fight someone who has more skill than him in more areas, PBF will get a mudhole stomped in him. Period.

the same exact argument you make against pbf could be made against the people going up against floyd. i mean, how are his oponents going to deal with a stand up striking artist? not just any striking artist but the best in the world.

the argument is not going to go anywhere. i will belive that pbf will dominate and you will belive otherwise. as larry merchant says, "lets agree to disagree"

[Dostoevsky]

It's a lot easier for a wrestler to take it to the ground than for a boxer to keep it standing.

[younghypnotiq]

iron ignore thi guy hes a moron. also pbf isnt the best striker in the word.hed get beat in k1 aswell

[Dostoevsky]

Thats right, I'd love to see Mayweather vs Buakaw.

[sprite]

It's a lot easier for a wrestler to take it to the ground than for a boxer to keep it standing.

thats the thing though. there is one important fact that you are ignoring. pbf isn't "just some striker." he is pbf, one of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport.

[ufoalf]

thats the thing though. there is one important fact that you are ignoring. pbf isn't "just some striker." he is pbf, one of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport.

You're 12.

[iksrtfo]

thats the thing though. there is one important fact that you are ignoring. pbf isn't "just some striker." he is pbf, one of the greatest boxers in the history of the sport.

and that would matter if we were talking boxing.
You can't "box" in mma. You roll a jab and end up in a clench and kneed in the head. So, most of what he knows, he can't bring with him to mma.

[Donut62]

Christ, anything for attention.

[sprite]

and that would matter if we were talking boxing.
You can't "box" in mma. You roll a jab and end up in a clench and kneed in the head. So, most of what he knows, he can't bring with him to mma.

any grappler would be knocked out by mayweather before they even have an oppurtunity to shoot in

[iksrtfo]

any grappler would be knocked out by mayweather before they even have an oppurtunity to shoot in

See that is ridiculouse. You saw "any", but remember that MMA is no longer a guy who wrestled in college with no other training fighting a boxer. A guy could throw kick or do anything and then shoot. If PBF throws a punch and commits, but does not land flush, he will be grabbed.

I spent most of my life in a boxing gym and have WAY better hands than anyone in my MMA gym but those leg kicks will break you down and one slip up and you're on the mat.

My mma gym has Muay thia and BJJ, that's it so my hands are leagues above everyone else's but I need more than that

[sprite]

but mayweather is a great athlete. he would learn bjj or whatever that grabastic stuff is at an accelerated rate faster than anybody in the world.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

but mayweather is a great athlete. he would learn bjj or whatever that grabastic stuff is at an accelerated rate faster than anybody in the world.
:rofl

Mayweather is a master of boxing technique... he isn't the greatest athlete in the world. Floyd has been boxing since he was in diapers. THAT is why he is great at boxing. There are plenty of wrestlers who are greater overall athletes than PBF... and THEY have been grappling their entire lives. They have mastered the art of grappling just like Mayweather has mastered the art of boxing.

Also, it is 100 times easier to get your hands on an opponent, than it is for that opponent to land a perfect knockout blow on you. Once someone who has been grappling their entire lives gets their hands on Floyd... it's over. Yes, Floyd is a great athlete, and he could learn other sports at a high rate. However, he isn't going to get better in that short period of time, than other great athletes who have done it their entire lives.

Also, Mayweather would have trouble with good Muay Thai fighters as well. You have to remember, that even in the striking aspect of MMA... you can't simply box your way around everything. He would have to be checking leg kicks, be prepared to block kicks to the body, kicks to the head, knees to the body, and head, elbows, the clinch, dirty boxing, where the other guy would be allowed to simply tie Mayweather up, while they threw their shots at him. All of these things seriously negate Mayweather's strengths. Let alone the obvious fact that he has to be ready to defend takedowns, shots, throws, submission attempts.... AND THE OTHER GUYS PUNCHES AS WELL. It is a hell of a lot easier to defend in boxing, where you only have to worry about two fists, with bog gloves, that not only take away some of the damage, but also Mayweather uses his own gloves as a main part of his defense. All of that is GONE in MMA. Nobody is going to pull his opponent off of him, when they tie up... nobody is going to have to settle for standing outside on Mayweather, while Mayweather uses his elbow for seperation, and setting up his shots. Mayweather lifts that elbow up, and he is going to be landing on his head in a matter of seconds.



Trust me, I have wrestled my entire life, and when I teach people wrestling who have never done it before... it is AMAZING how easy it is to manhandle these people. I mean, they literally have ZERO sense of body control, momentum, the general pushing and pulling of a grappling match, the techniques... ect.... There are certain moves that will work EVERY SINGLE TIME against them. It takes years and years to become fully aware on the ground, and after doing it from being a little kid on up, you can literally do it with your eyes closed, simply by feeling the positions, leverage, body weight, ect... It's almost like another sense that you get. I guess it may be impossible for me to explain.

[Dostoevsky]

That was a good post but you shouldn't have bothered, the guy is a moron and will just stick with the mantra of "Teh Boxar will always land teh miracal KO first punch thrown!!11oneone!!1"

[sprite]

:rofl
Mayweather is a master of boxing technique... he isn't the greatest athlete in the world. Floyd has been boxing since he was in diapers. THAT is why he is great at boxing.

since boxing is the most athletic and difficult sport in the world [Only registered and activated users can see links]

and since pbf is number one in boxing

it logically follows pbf is one of the greatest athletes in the world

[sprite]

:rofl

Trust me, I have wrestled my entire life, and when I teach people wrestling who have never done it before... it is AMAZING how easy it is to manhandle these people. I mean, they literally have ZERO sense of body control, momentum, the general pushing and pulling of a grappling match, the techniques... ect.... There are certain moves that will work EVERY SINGLE TIME against them.

thats because you've been hangin' with the scrubs who are slow to learn

[Boinko]

since boxing is the most athletic and difficult sport in the world [Only registered and activated users can see links]

and since pbf is number one in boxing

it logically follows pbf is one of the greatest athletes in the world

Sure, PBF is an amazing athlete no doubt.

But, notice hockey is second on that ESPN list. Does that mean that Mayweather could become an NHL player with ease just because he is a great athlete? Of course not.
Similarly, Floyd would have little chance against a really great wrestler/grappler no matter how great an athlete he is. The disciplines are so entirely different.

[sprite]

Sure, PBF is an amazing athlete no doubt.

But, notice hockey is second on that ESPN list. Does that mean that Mayweather could become an NHL player with ease just because he is a great athlete? Of course not.
Similarly, Floyd would have little chance against a really great wrestler/grappler no matter how great an athlete he is. The disciplines are so entirely different.

there are no weight classes in NHL so your hockey analogy is null

and you are missing the point. since pbf is a great athlete he would learn those grabastic disciplines real fast. but that doesn't even matter cause pbf would own the ufc with his stand up fists.

[Boinko]

there are no weight classes in NHL so your hockey analogy is null

and you are missing the point. since pbf is a great athlete he would learn those grabastic disciplines real fast. but that doesn't even matter cause pbf would own the ufc with his stand up fists.

You may want to go back and read Widdow_Makers's post again. There's no point me repeating what he said stated so correctly.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

since boxing is the most athletic and difficult sport in the world [Only registered and activated users can see links]

and since pbf is number one in boxing

it logically follows pbf is one of the greatest athletes in the world
Let's see what another one of boxing's top pd 4 pd fighters have to say on the matter.

Here is what Winky Wright says...

EL: This question is a little off topic, but I wanted to know your thoughts on professional boxers entering the K-1 Mixed Martial Arts tournaments? Butterbean and Frans Botha have fought already and neither fared too well and now Botha will challenge Bob Sapp in December.

WR: No, I don’t think it’s a good idea because the MMA guys fight their asses off and they are straight all around fighters and we are boxers and that why it’s called boxing and not fighting. The MMA guys can really fight and so can we, but that’s a different style all together and boxers that go into it could get seriously hurt.

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Do you think that maybe Winky Wright, being a top pd 4 pd boxer in the world, might know a little more about this topic than you?

[sprite]

Let's see what another one of boxing's top pd 4 pd fighters have to say on the matter.

Here is what Winky Wright says...

EL: This question is a little off topic, but I wanted to know your thoughts on professional boxers entering the K-1 Mixed Martial Arts tournaments? Butterbean and Frans Botha have fought already and neither fared too well and now Botha will challenge Bob Sapp in December.

WR: No, I don’t think it’s a good idea because the MMA guys fight their asses off and they are straight all around fighters and we are boxers and that why it’s called boxing and not fighting. The MMA guys can really fight and so can we, but that’s a different style all together and boxers that go into it could get seriously hurt.

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Do you think that maybe Winky Wright, being a top pd 4 pd boxer in the world, might know a little more about this topic than you?
winky wright was never p4p number one

we are talking about pbf, who actually wants to fight mma

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

winky wright was never p4p number one
Oh.. so of course, he was only in the top 3. What the hell would he know about boxing vs MMA, right? Of course you would know more than him.

[WiDDoW_MaKeR]

we are talking about pbf, who actually wants to fight mma

I will believe that when I see it. I would bet that after one good workout with a good grappler, he would find out just how far off base he is, and would close up shop on that dream.

[younghypnotiq]

if mayweter faught now he would get beat , BUT if you give him 2 weeks to train in grappling he would dominaate the UFC and withing a few more weeks of trainning hell be able to KO fedor in 1 rd

[sprite]

fuck the ufc. its all about boxing baby.

[Boinko]

fuck the ufc. its all about boxing baby.

Well for you maybe. Some of us enjoy both sports and make no apologies for it. Personally, I don't even bother worrying about which is more entertaining. I just want to see good fights.

But, if you hate it I strongly suggest you never watch an MMA bout again (if you've even watched one already) and don't ever bother to discuss MMA in a forum again.
Why would you subject yourself to the grief of discussing a sport you hate?

[Dostoevsky]

Well for you maybe. Some of us enjoy both sports and make no apologies for it. Personally, I don't even bother worrying about which is more entertaining. I just want to see good fights.

But, if you hate it I strongly suggest you never watch an MMA bout again (if you've even watched one already) and don't ever bother to discuss MMA in a forum again.
Why would you subject yourself to the grief of discussing a sport you hate?

Because he's a complete dumbfuck.

[AJAX]

truer words have never been said

[El Puma]

Because he's a complete dumbfuck.:lol: :happy

[billyconn]

if mayweter faught now he would get beat , BUT if you give him 2 weeks to train in grappling he would dominaate the UFC and withing a few more weeks of trainning hell be able to KO fedor in 1 rd

that was sarcasm wasn't it?

[sprite]

Well for you maybe. Some of us enjoy both sports and make no apologies for it. Personally, I don't even bother worrying about which is more entertaining. I just want to see good fights.

But, if you hate it I strongly suggest you never watch an MMA bout again (if you've even watched one already) and don't ever bother to discuss MMA in a forum again.
Why would you subject yourself to the grief of discussing a sport you hate?

im gonna watch the ufc tomorrow cause my friend is ordering it.

but id never pay to watch that shit.

[Boinko]

im gonna watch the ufc tomorrow cause my friend is ordering it.

but id never pay to watch that shit.

Really? Wow, you're a good friend to watch something you clearly hate. Let's just keep our fingers crossed that you don't enjoy it.:lol:

[younghypnotiq]

that was sarcasm wasn't it?

lol obviously.

[stuistylee]

This is part of some game Floyd is playing. He will not participate in MMA. Even if there was a hint of truth in thi - he would need to train in the various MMA disciplines for a few years just to make sure he doesn't get crushed against the first non-jobber he met in the octagon.

Floyd will never compete in MMA.spot on mate...if he does 4 some kinda spectacle it would almost(not quite because once fighting is in ur blood u could never stop being a fan...i hope)make me stick 2 rugby n cricket...