Difference between treadmill and roadwork?

[ben1990]

Is there any real difference between the 2? I am wondering because sometimes if I'm at the gym its more convieniet to use treadmill. Just wondering what you guys thoughts are.

Also how fast should an amauter fighter be able to run 2 miles?

What do you reccomend for roadwork?

WHat do you reccomend for sprints?

[viru§™]

Is there any real difference between the 2? I am wondering because sometimes if I'm at the gym its more convieniet to use treadmill. Just wondering what you guys thoughts are.

Also how fast should an amauter fighter be able to run 2 miles?

What do you reccomend for roadwork?

WHat do you reccomend for sprints?

Running outside is much better than running on a treadmill for any type of training.

[ben1990]

Yes, but why is this?

[jones1]

well i dont know why anyone would say its better outside cuz it really isnt. when your outside you have to worry about the weather, obstructions in the street, traffic, ice and wind really sucks, while on a treadmill you dont have to worry about any of these things. not to mention on a treadmill you can make sure your going a certain speed throughout your whole workout and outside its a lot harder to tell, and on treadmills theres a timer also and how far youve ran. the only advantage i could think of being outside is the fresh air and if you live in the mountains like me that can really help your lungs but if you live in a busy city you obviously wont get the same effect. oh and treadmills usually have an incline you can set and outside you have to find an area with hills to do the same thing.

[littleguy]

Treadmill is more convenient, roadwork is harder. There's less resistance on the treadmill, it does some of the work for you. Plus, roadwork gives you wind resistance, changing conditions.

Treadmill for boxercise, roadwork for fighters

[amy]

well i dont know why anyone would say its better outside cuz it really isnt. when your outside you have to worry about the weather, obstructions in the street, traffic, ice and wind really sucks, while on a treadmill you dont have to worry about any of these things. not to mention on a treadmill you can make sure your going a certain speed throughout your whole workout and outside its a lot harder to tell, and on treadmills theres a timer also and how far youve ran. the only advantage i could think of being outside is the fresh air and if you live in the mountains like me that can really help your lungs but if you live in a busy city you obviously wont get the same effect. oh and treadmills usually have an incline you can set and outside you have to find an area with hills to do the same thing.

A fellow Montanan! :happy

I agree with you on the treadmill. I push myself a lot harder on one than I do outside. Of course, I choose to run outside when I can but that's not always an option.

[ben1990]

A fellow Montanan! :happy

I agree with you on the treadmill. I push myself a lot harder on one than I do outside. Of course, I choose to run outside when I can but that's not always an option.

How far do you run when you run on treadmill? And how long of time?

[amy]

How far do you run when you run on treadmill? And how long of time?

Depends, but usually 2-3 miles at a fast pace. If I'm outside I usually go around 3 or more. After almost all of my workouts I get on and run a mile as fast as I can whether or not I've already ran that day.

[ben1990]

Would 2 miles in 14 mins be a reasonable pace?

[amy]

Would 2 miles in 14 mins be a reasonable pace?

Sounds damn good to me.
I run slow though, so I'm sure there will be plenty of idiots here telling you how much you suck.

I just try to run a bit faster (10+ seconds) every week or two. But 14 mins for two miles is good.

[jones1]

A fellow Montanan! :happy

I agree with you on the treadmill. I push myself a lot harder on one than I do outside. Of course, I choose to run outside when I can but that's not always an option.
:yep i know what you mean, but around this time of year its pretty rough.

[jones1]

Would 2 miles in 14 mins be a reasonable pace?
yeah that sounds great, at that pace your running over 8 miles an hour and if you can do that for longer then 10 minutes id say your in pretty good shape.:thumbsup

[viru§™]

well i dont know why anyone would say its better outside cuz it really isnt. when your outside you have to worry about the weather, obstructions in the street, traffic, ice and wind really sucks, while on a treadmill you dont have to worry about any of these things. not to mention on a treadmill you can make sure your going a certain speed throughout your whole workout and outside its a lot harder to tell, and on treadmills theres a timer also and how far youve ran. the only advantage i could think of being outside is the fresh air and if you live in the mountains like me that can really help your lungs but if you live in a busy city you obviously wont get the same effect. oh and treadmills usually have an incline you can set and outside you have to find an area with hills to do the same thing.

Just because the treadmill is more convenient doesn't mean it's better than jogging/sprinting outside. The points you made are all little things, complaining about weather and obstructions etc - wear warmer clothes and find another route. Also, your point about constant speed doesn't really mean much, is a boxing match at a constant pace? No. And the thing about a timer as well - it's known as a watch :good

[ben1990]

Ok thanks guys, I think I am going to try to build my stamina to the point where I can do 2 Miles in 14 minutes. I can't run at this pace yet though, that will be my aim. Once I can do that I will incorparate sprints and such into my training.

How long does it take to notice a noticable difference in stamina? Like a month or so?

[amy]

Just because the treadmill is more convenient doesn't mean it's better than jogging/sprinting outside. The points you made are all little things, complaining about weather and obstructions etc - wear warmer clothes and find another route. Also, your point about constant speed doesn't really mean much, is a boxing match at a constant pace? No. And the thing about a timer as well - it's known as a watch :good

It's kind of hard to push yourself to run hard in a foot of snow and ice. Sometimes a treadmill is better.

[pudding]

Is there any real difference between the 2? I am wondering because sometimes if I'm at the gym its more convieniet to use treadmill. Just wondering what you guys thoughts are.

Also how fast should an amauter fighter be able to run 2 miles?

What do you reccomend for roadwork?

WHat do you reccomend for sprints?


Any guy in shape should be aboe to do 2 miles in 12 minutes.

[amy]

Any guy in shape should be aboe to do 2 miles in 12 minutes.

Wow, your world really is black and white. :patsch

[jones1]

Just because the treadmill is more convenient doesn't mean it's better than jogging/sprinting outside. The points you made are all little things, complaining about weather and obstructions etc - wear warmer clothes and find another route. Also, your point about constant speed doesn't really mean much, is a boxing match at a constant pace? No. And the thing about a timer as well - it's known as a watch :good
uh yeah but why would outside be any better? and if your on a treadmill you can see your progress much better then if your outside. and you can adjust the speed on a treadmill but outside you can make a guess but your not gonna know if your really running 8.3 miles an hour. so you dont have to go a constant speed on a treadmill it goes as fast as you choose and you can adjust your speed to exactly the pace you want in seconds, thats not something you can do outside. and sure you can have a watch but how would you know how far you ran?

[cheech]

In the past I had to lose a lot of weight to make my weight class. I used the treadmill because it was really cold out in the morning. Sweating in the cold is really hard preventing me from losing weight. On the treadmill I would adjust the temp. to 90 degrees and use the sauna suite.

[Relentless]

Any guy in shape should be aboe to do 2 miles in 12 minutes.

now that your daddy cross-trainer is gone you are back, remember when he exposed you as a woman?

i don't understand why anyone would come on the Internet and pretend to be the opposite gender without being homosexual.

[viru§™]

uh yeah but why would outside be any better?

Random inclines/declines, in the fresh air, to me it feels a lot harder outdoors than on a treadmill.

and if your on a treadmill you can see your progress much better then if your outside.

It's not difficult without a treadmill - set a distance, work out a route, set a time and always try to beat the last time... If you beat the time you're improving.

and you can adjust the speed on a treadmill but outside you can make a guess but your not gonna know if your really running 8.3 miles an hour.

And? It's the intensity that counts.

so you dont have to go a constant speed on a treadmill it goes as fast as you choose and you can adjust your speed to exactly the pace you want in seconds, thats not something you can do outside.

So to you this is a good thing because it makes the job easier. Why would you train for a sport which is never at a constant set pace with set pace training?

and sure you can have a watch but how would you know how far you ran?

That my friend is known as a map :good

[truepwrz]

Any guy in shape should be aboe to do 2 miles in 12 minutes.

2miles in 12minutes is 10mph for 12mins...

everyone trains for different things and there is such thing as a standard for in shape in general but if you say in shape for boxing i would have to disagree with you.

i would have to take the risk and disagree with lots of posters here. running on the treadmill and on the road is 2 different stories, on the treadmill it actually works your calves more and can force you to keep at a certain speed while improving in terms of length, while running on the road you can be going slower and slower just reach a distance

so both have their pro and cons, i would suggest both if you have the time for it.

[ralphc]

2miles in 12minutes is 10mph for 12mins...

everyone trains for different things and there is such thing as a standard for in shape in general but if you say in shape for boxing i would have to disagree with you.

i would have to take the risk and disagree with lots of posters here. running on the treadmill and on the road is 2 different stories, on the treadmill it actually works your calves more and can force you to keep at a certain speed while improving in terms of length, while running on the road you can be going slower and slower just reach a distance

so both have their pro and cons, i would suggest both if you have the time for it.



So what's the big deal about 6 minute miles? :huh Women win marathons at a higher speeds than that.

[truepwrz]

So what's the big deal about 6 minute miles? :huh Women win marathons at a higher speeds than that.

you can get around 10 random guys at a fitness gym and i can bet you a good 8 of them can do that.

you can find 100 random high school kids and i can bet that a good 90 cant do that.

being in shape itself has no standards, you can do 12 rounds of 3 minutes and cant run 3 miles or sprint 8sets of 800meters in 3minutes and wont be able to slowly run 6miles, vice vera.

lots of things in life arent too hard and not a big deal but people just cant tend to do it

[ralphc]

you can get around 10 random guys at a fitness gym and i can bet you a good 8 of them can do that.

you can find 100 random high school kids and i can bet that a good 90 cant do that.

being in shape itself has no standards, you can do 12 rounds of 3 minutes and cant run 3 miles or sprint 8sets of 800meters in 3minutes and wont be able to slowly run 6miles, vice vera.

lots of things in life arent too hard and not a big deal but people just cant tend to do it



Back in the old days of boxing when nobody was worried about strength training, nearly everybody had a higher level of fitness than modern boxers. Championship fights were 15 rounds, and most boxers were well prepared to go the distance. Today it is now common to see men going into championship events and showing clear signs of fatigue after only a few rounds. Maybe they are stronger, but they sure as hell aren't fitter.

[younghypnotiq]

Is there any real difference between the 2? I am wondering because sometimes if I'm at the gym its more convieniet to use treadmill. Just wondering what you guys thoughts are.

Also how fast should an amauter fighter be able to run 2 miles?

What do you reccomend for roadwork?

WHat do you reccomend for sprints?

if you can run 2 miles inunder 10 minutes then you might as well just quit boxing right now.

[Kolya]

:yep i know what you mean, but around this time of year its pretty rough.

It's always rough when it's Butte. :yep:D Good to see another Montanan here; you competing?

[Kolya]

if you can run 2 miles inunder 10 minutes then you might as well just quit boxing right now.

What? You should just quit posting on the internet and go back to remedial English.

[ben1990]

if you can run 2 miles inunder 10 minutes then you might as well just quit boxing right now.

I hope your joking man...

I'm not gonna say that you probably can't do that or anything man but 2 miles in under 10 minutes is pretty good. I doubt many pro-athletes can do that. Seeing as how its a major feat to run 1 mile in 4 minutes.

[younghypnotiq]

I hope your joking man...

I'm not gonna say that you probably can't do that or anything man but 2 miles in under 10 minutes is pretty good. I doubt many pro-athletes can do that. Seeing as how its a major feat to run 1 mile in 4 minutes.

lol it was a joke. it doesntmatter how fast you can run the mile. you can be able to run a 4 minute mile or a 20 minute mile and have to boxers of equal conditioing. it doesnt matter

[jones1]

Random inclines/declines, in the fresh air, to me it feels a lot harder outdoors than on a treadmill.

sure thats true but you can change incline as much as you want on a treadmill too.

It's not difficult without a treadmill - set a distance, work out a route, set a time and always try to beat the last time... If you beat the time you're improving.

yeah but it could be a lot more encouraging if say you know you were going 8 mph then steadily move up a tenth of a mph a week or so, if you were outside itd be harder to see such a small gain and you might get discouraged.


And? It's the intensity that counts.

yeah but this way you could see your intensity go up over time and youd be able to chart your progress, you can run with as much intensity on a treadmill as outside, maybe even more on a treadmill because theres less distractions.


So to you this is a good thing because it makes the job easier. Why would you train for a sport which is never at a constant set pace with set pace training?

nah how would it make the job easier? youd still be working just as hard as if you were outside. and its just as simple to change the pace on a treadmill then on the road, all you gotta do is push a button. but with running your usually going a constant pace anyway arent you? unless your doing sprint intervals or something?



That my friend is known as a map :good

yes but then youd have to measure it out and compare it to the key on the bottom of the map, and who would really want to do that when you can just look on the console of a treadmill and it tells your exactly how far you ran to a hundredth of a mile?

im not saying a treadmill is better than roadwork but theres no doubt you can get the same results more conveniently.

[jones1]

It's always rough when it's Butte. :yep:D Good to see another Montanan here; you competing?
Yeah you can say that again. and yup just started competing:bbb . where are you from?

[Kolya]

Next major city to the east...;) just don't want to put it out there too much on here. How long you been at it for; are you going to Great Falls on the 4th/5th?

[jones1]

Next major city to the east...;) just don't want to put it out there too much on here. How long you been at it for; are you going to Great Falls on the 4th/5th?

ahh.. and just a few months competitively but ive loved boxing since i was like 10. and yup itll be my first bout. theres another one in butte the week after that i believe. you going to them?

[Kolya]

ahh.. and just a few months competitively but ive loved boxing since i was like 10. and yup itll be my first bout. theres another one in butte the week after that i believe. you going to them?

I'll be in Great Falls for sure; I didn't know Butte was holding one though. I know State should be coming up soon though, I assume in H-Town or something though. How old are you, what weight are you at?

[jones1]

I'll be in Great Falls for sure; I didn't know Butte was holding one though. I know State should be coming up soon though, I assume in H-Town or something though. How old are you, what weight are you at?

I see. and yup i guess theyre just putting it on as a last moment thing. and probably, i doubt ill be going to that tho. and im 15 and at 123 at the moment.

[Kolya]

I see. and yup i guess theyre just putting it on as a last moment thing. and probably, i doubt ill be going to that tho. and im 15 and at 123 at the moment.

Cool man, look forward to seeing you there. I saw some of the younger guys from Butte box in Helena, look pretty good. :thumbsup

[jones1]

Cool man, look forward to seeing you there. I saw some of the younger guys from Butte box in Helena, look pretty good. :thumbsup
yup hopefully ill see ya. and ha yeah they all did pretty good, but they got rushed into it cuz theyd only been training for 2 weeks. i couldnt make it to that cuz it was the last weekend of hunting so i skipped it. what weight you fighting at?

[Kolya]

165, hoping to have two matches in Not so Great Falls. But we'll see. When you get up to 75 posts I'll PM you.

[knockout]

Running outside is much harder because the impact on your feet will fatigue you faster coz of the hard surface.While the treadmill you can pretty much run longer.

[jones1]

alrighty sounds good. how many bouts have you had? and good luck!

[jones1]

now that your daddy cross-trainer is gone you are back, remember when he exposed you as a woman?

i don't understand why anyone would come on the Internet and pretend to be the opposite gender without being homosexual.
well theres always being a bisexual, or one of the wanna be homos who say they're confused about they're needs :think

[Kolya]

alrighty sounds good. how many bouts have you had? and good luck!

Thanks man, I should be boxing a kid from Missoula and maybe one from Canada if he comes, I've gained weight since that time so it might not be doable. But like I said, I'll PM you when you hit 75 posts so I can tell you off the general forum.

[truepwrz]

Running outside is much harder because the impact on your feet will fatigue you faster coz of the hard surface.While the treadmill you can pretty much run longer.

it also puts lots of pressure to your joints which you wil be feeling later on in life....

[amy]

it also puts lots of pressure to your joints which you wil be feeling later on in life....

Yeah, that really didn't make any sense. More wear and tear on your joints doesn't automatically = better work out.

[Doomas]

Treadmills are actualy bad for your knees since that machine sets the pace and you have to keep up with it, its similar to running down hill. Thats why I prefer bikes to treadmills.

[welshwonder]

treadmills are alot healthier for your knees than running outside, the pressure put on your knees running outside is very detrimental, treadmills have a suspension built in so absorb the shock rather than your knees, this being said running on a beach is quite possibly the best place to run, i love the scenery changes whe running i can get bored on the treadmill.

[truepwrz]

Treadmills are actualy bad for your knees since that machine sets the pace and you have to keep up with it, its similar to running down hill. Thats why I prefer bikes to treadmills.

actually treadmills put most the stress in your lower calves not your knees so overall its much better for your body to either run on sand, flat grassy areas, or just the treadmill.

of course tho its better to have both so you wont put too much stress on one part of body

[ripcity]

I find that with tredmills as welll as elipitical mechienes (yes i use them from time to time) I can controll my work out. I can set what ever pace I want and most you can simulate hills. When I run out side I find it to be more medatative. One diffent advantage for treadmills is that you don't have to deal ith trafic.

[Vantage_West]

Running outside is much better than running on a treadmill for any type of training.true road work is a kinda work out and warm up and to keep your wieght low.

but treadmill is for stamina and endurance.
i believe that joe calzaghe is a huge fan of both

[jones1]

true road work is a kinda work out and warm up and to keep your wieght low.

but treadmill is for stamina and endurance.
i believe that joe calzaghe is a huge fan of both
eh idk :think i think both roadwork and treadmill would do both of that equally, i mean your doing the same thing on both (running) why would it make a difference if you were outside or on a tread?

[amy]

eh idk :think i think both roadwork and treadmill would do both of that equally, i mean your doing the same thing on both (running) why would it make a difference if you were outside or on a tread?

Because when you are outside your body naturally slows down when it's tired. When you are on a treadmill you can control the pace and keep your self motivated.

[Relentless]

treadmills suck, you go at a controlled pace.

[amy]

treadmills suck, you go at a controlled pace.


I like treadmills for the same reason that you hate them. We're all different and differnt methods will work better for different people.

[Dostoevsky]

It depends on the person. I prefer the treadmill because I always go at the same pace and can control the pace I'm going at.
Outside if I'm feeling tired I slow down but on the treadmill I say "fuck it, I'll finish" at the same pace, I can really push myself.