Ivan Emelianenko

[Dostoevsky]

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I wonder if he's going to be going into fighting? I remember a Fedor interview a while back and he was asked about his brother Ivan and he responded by saying that his brother wasn't taking training that seriously. :think

[ufoalf]

Neither does Alex.

[Dostoevsky]

Thats true, a pity because I think Alex is more fun to watch then Fedor due to his superior striking and his style.


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[Beebs]

A while ago the word that Ivan was working mostly on boxing, that might have changed now.

[Dostoevsky]

I hope he does go into MMA.




He looks like a bit of a pretty boy though.....:?

[LONE WOLF]

Thats true, a pity because I think Alex is more fun to watch then Fedor due to his superior striking and his style.


You can see more Emelianenko family pictures at Alex's new website:
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sweet link, thanks

[Donut62]

I believe he was more interested in boxing last I heard.

[Dostoevsky]

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Heres a video of Ivan winning a combat Sambo competition in the 82kg class a couple of weeks back.

[ravtrav]

Thats true, a pity because I think Alex is more fun to watch then Fedor due to his superior striking and his style.


You can see more Emelianenko family pictures at Alex's new website:
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[Big N Bad]

ivan has grown alot, he was slightly bigger than fedor b4.

[Dostoevsky]

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Just noticed that Aleksander has a Swastika in the middle of his star on his knee. I didn't know he was Hindu? :huh :yep

[scurlaruntings]

Iv just gone off him.

[Dostoevsky]

Yeah..........funny that was never notcied before, suprised they allowed to take pictures of his tattoo like that, you'd think his managment would want to keep that hidden.......or maybe they don't give a shit.

[Donut62]

Just noticed that Aleksander has a Swastika in the middle of his star on his knee. I didn't know he was Hindu? :huh :yep

As well he has "Gott Min Uns" on his back which was the slogan for the Nazi SS, and was engraved on the belt buckles of all Nazi soldiers. A lot of Russian prison tattoos will carry something from the Third Reich. However, this has little to do with allegiance to the Nazi party or ideals, but sprang out of Soviet era prisons as a sign of ultimate rebellion against the authority of Stalin's reign. The Nazi's were the greatest, most vile, despised enemy of the Soviet governemnt during WWII, and only the bravest, toughest, courageous prisoners dare to carry the mark of the sworn enemies of the Soviet empire on their bodies as a way to really give Stalin the finger. The tradition carried on, and is usally given with great respect to the toughest criminals.

[boxingcar]

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Holy shit , i thought the swastika was photoshoped...but it's real

[Donut62]

Zentsov also has Swatikas on the inside of his arm:

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[Tko4]

Aleksanders 4 star tats (2 on the shoulders, 2 on the knees) are the markings of the vor v zakone, or "thieves in law." They mark him as a ranking member of the Russian mob, which he was at one point. He also has a tat that denotes his 5 years in prison, and many more with very specific meanings.

Here's a Russian mob boss with the same shoulder marking as an example:

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[Dostoevsky]

The spiders web on his shoulder also denotes former drug use.
The church with 5 steples symbolises how long he was in jail for.

One other sign of the 'vor v zakone' is the Virgin Mary holding baby Jesus, I wonder if his grim reaper holding a baby is a modified Virgin Mary and baby Jesus :think
Either that or it symbolises something he did that was alot worse than we've been told. And I have a few guesses to what a grim reaper might denote...

What I find so cool about his tats over nearly every one elses in MMA is that nearly every one symbolises something unique to him and it means something.

-Right arm: Cathedral with five domes: symbolizes five years of imprisonment.
-Shoulders: Stars: Symbolize a "career criminal" or Vor v Zakone in Russian (english translation: thief in law).
-Right shoulder: cobweb: Aleksander did not explain its meaning other than saying that contrary to what has been suggested by some, it does not have anything to do with the mafia. In Russian prisons, tattoos using this symbol typically denote drug addiction.
-Left shoulder: Russian script.
-Left forearm: Half cat’s head, half skull: “Homo homini lupus est.” Translated: Man is a wolf to his fellow-man.
-Back: Grim Reaper holding a baby
-Back: "Gott Mit Uns", meaning “God is with us” in German: for Aleksander, it’s a symbol of revival. This tattoo caused a significant controversy, since this slogan was written on belt buckles of German soldiers in the Second and Third Reich.
-Knees: Stars: symbolize that the owner will never be brought to his knees.
-Pirate tattoo: stands for article 167 of Russian Criminal Code: “armed robbery”.
“Fortune favors the bold” in German: self-explanatory.
A name on his lower abs (Maybe 'Marina'). Later covered by a tribal tattoo.

Heres a huge list of what Russian tattoo's mean:
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[Tko4]

I always find it interesting that Fedor has no tattoos, and thus, no history in Russian crime. Then his brother, who is still in his 20s, has a laundry list of criminal activities spelled out in tattoos on his body. Funny how two brothers from the same upbringing took such different paths, and all Fedor can say about his brother is that he was involved in some "bad stuff."

[Dostoevsky]

I bet Aleks has bludgeoned a few dudes to death in a back alley somewhere back in the day.....

Fedor went to the army so he came out good.

[Tko4]

I bet Aleks has bludgeoned a few dudes to death in a back alley somewhere back in the day.....

Fedor went to the army so he came out good.

Oh, I'm sure the Aleksander has killed a few people in his day. The scary thing to me is that he's only about a year older than me, yet he's been in prison for five years. Not to mention, he's about twice my size. That is one scary dude with some blood on his hands.

[Dostoevsky]

Yeah, he had his first fight at 23? He was in 5 years, so he must have went to jail at 18, maybe 17.

Thats pretty crazy, he must have done some bad shit to get those tattoos, having false or unearned tattoos is punishable by death from crime organizations if you try and be a 'poser'.

[Tko4]

Yeah, he had his first fight at 23? He was in 5 years, so he must have went to jail at 18, maybe 17.

Thats pretty crazy, he must have done some bad shit to get those tattoos, having false or unearned tattoos is punishable by death from crime organizations if you try and be a 'poser'.
He probably shanked a few people in prison. And once you're in the mob, you're always kind of a part of it. I imagine they let him leave the criminal life enough that he could get into MMA, as long as he sent a cut of his money back to them. The Russian mob loves its money. That's why they extort all their athletes. Half the Russian hockey players in the NHL pay mob fees.

And yeah, Aleksander certainly is no poser. I love the fight with him and James Thompson. Thompson goes nuts, and Aleksander looks bored. That's when I knew he was a cold blooded killer.

[Dostoevsky]

Really?
Hmm......I bet Red Devil Sports Club is full of mob members, Vadim is probably a mobster himself, he loves the money, trying to control Fedor like that.

[scurlaruntings]

Its all a load of crap anyway.Fuck Alexsander and all them stupid Russian facists!!!

[Dostoevsky]

Its all a load of crap anyway.Fuck Alexsander and all them stupid Russian facists!!!

Does that mean you'll finally get off Fedor's nuts? :happy

[boxingcar]

Does that mean you'll finally get off Fedor's nuts? :happy

fedor is nothing like aleksander though....
having said that , personally i don't give a shit...

[Calcium Kid]

Alot of russians are right wing facists etc its a big problem in russia, probaly made a few bad choices in their life, done stuff they aint proud off, but people should get a second chance:D

By the way how many emelianenkos are their???? and does both alexsander and ivan have racist and mafia tatts???

[Dostoevsky]

Alot of russians are right wing facists etc its a big problem in russia, probaly made a few bad choices in their life, done stuff they aint proud off, but people should get a second chance:D

By the way how many emelianenkos are their???? and does both alexsander and ivan have racist and mafia tatts???

The're pics of Ivan on the first page. He looks tattoo-less.

[scurlaruntings]

Does that mean you'll finally get off Fedor's nuts? :happyI was never in Fedors jock.Does it mean you`ll leave him alone?:think

[Dostoevsky]

What reason do I have to leave him alone?

[rydersonthestorm]

What reason do I have to leave him alone?
The reason that you might have learned about mma now instead of the normal crap you talk.

[Dostoevsky]

The reason that you might have learned about mma now instead of the normal crap you talk.

:lol::lol:

Haha funny coming from a fucko like you who nutthugs everything Pride and blatently hates on anything UFC related. :rofl

Fuck off back to the swamp where you crawled out off you dumbshit.

[RossTheBoss]

Alexander Emelianenko and Roman Zentsov are clearly neo-nazis IMO.. of course they will never admit it, but I am very sure they are. So are a few others from the Red Devils. Funny thing is that Vadim Finkelstein is a jew :yep

MMA attracts all kinds of trash, neo-nazis are loyal visitors of these events in Europe.

btw, check this guy out

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[rydersonthestorm]

:lol::lol:

Haha funny coming from a fucko like you who nutthugs everything Pride and blatently hates on anything UFC related. :rofl

Fuck off back to the swamp where you crawled out off you dumbshit.
It might be becuase i have watched ufc and pride since they started and have trained mma and actually know a guy who fights in the ufc and one who fights for elite xc, rather than hving watched it for 3 weeks and thinking i know anything about it. You have very little knowledge of anything related to these topics and come up with constant shit.:deal

[Dostoevsky]

It might be becuase i have watched ufc and pride since they started and have trained mma and actually know a guy who fights in the ufc and one who fights for elite xc, rather than hving watched it for 3 weeks and thinking i know anything about it. You have very little knowledge of anything related to these topics and come up with constant shit.:deal

:lol::lol:

And my penis is 12 inches long and I have 22 inch biceps...:rofl
Internet boasting at its most pathetic.

I have never seen you write anything profound or anything interesting in the slighest on these boards so until you start posting on this board as much as I do and actually start contributing to threads and topics like I do in stead of occasionaly popping in to whine and moan "Waaa Waa you know nothing" instead of having a civilized debate you can kindly shut the fuck up and piss off.

[rydersonthestorm]

:lol::lol:

And my penis is 12 inches long and I have 22 inch biceps...:rofl
Internet boasting at its most pathetic.

I have never seen you write anything profound or anything interesting in the slighest on these boards so until you start posting on this board as much as I do and actually start contributing to threads and topics like I do in stead of occasionaly popping in to whine and moan "Waaa Waa you know nothing" instead of having a civilized debate you can kindly shut the fuck up and piss off.
I don't post on this board becuase the majority of people who post here are like you, ever heard of bisping and paul daley.

[ravtrav]

I train with the best MMA'ers in the UK

[scurlaruntings]

Alexander Emelianenko and Roman Zentsov are clearly neo-nazis IMO.. of course they will never admit it, but I am very sure they are. So are a few others from the Red Devils. Funny thing is that Vadim Finkelstein is a jew :yep

MMA attracts all kinds of trash, neo-nazis are loyal visitors of these events in Europe.

btw, check this guy out

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[Only registered and activated users can see links] hardly the brightest sparks in the world if they didnt realise that a name like that is Jewish.Anyway the racism in Russia i find quite baffling.Its almost trend like for young men to get themselves involved in this bigotry.Considering there nation spent some time in WW2 repelling the Nazi`s its even more ironic that a once socialist states is now a hot bed for all that is Aryan.

As for Zentsov his pig shit.Im glad he lost his last bout now and i hope the same fate awaits Fedors brother.Isnt Roman a jewish name also? Or at least a travelling Gypsy name?:think

[scurlaruntings]

I don't post on this board becuase the majority of people who post here are like you, ever heard of bisping and paul daley.Man your not still running that whack ass line are you? :roll:

[Donut62]

Considering there nation spent some time in WW2 repelling the Nazi`s its even more ironic that a once socialist states is now a hot bed for all that is Aryan.

As for Zentsov his pig shit.Im glad he lost his last bout now and i hope the same fate awaits Fedors brother.Isnt Roman a jewish name also? Or at least a travelling Gypsy name?

Once again, I am not trying to defend him or anything, but the Nazi inisignia on Russian prison tatoos has nothing to do with identifying with the tenents of National Socialism and the "final solution", and everything to do with rebellion against the USSR. Roman is jewish, by the way. The symbol has taken on it's own meaning in the sub culture of organized crime in Russia, and it has nothing to do with Hitler.

[scurlaruntings]

Once again, I am not trying to defend him or anything, but the Nazi inisignia on Russian prison tatoos has nothing to do with identifying with the tenents of National Socialism and the "final solution", and everything to do with rebellion against the USSR. Roman is jewish, by the way. The symbol has taken on it's own meaning in the sub culture of organized crime in Russia, and it has nothing to do with Hitler.Well then there clearly fucking stupid.I had a feeling Roman was Jewish because of his name and his obviously the most stupidest of the lot.His forefathers and family were getting killed in concentration camps and he thinks its cool to have a Swastika tattoo`ed on his body as a symbol of rebellion against a government that doesnt even exist anymore?! Well that makes about as much sense as a chocolate teapot.:patsch

[Donut62]

Indeed, it is stupid. But looking at Aleksander, I find it kind of funny that people get more worked up about a symbol tatooed on his body than they got worked up about the fact that he committed armed robbery and proudly displays his membership in organized crime. It's not like he was ever a good person to begin with, and having a swastika on him just seems like par for the course.

[RossTheBoss]

Once again, I am not trying to defend him or anything, but the Nazi inisignia on Russian prison tatoos has nothing to do with identifying with the tenents of National Socialism and the "final solution", and everything to do with rebellion against the USSR.

what fucking rebellion against the USSR? Alexander was a small kid in the USSR...today, nobody protests against the USSR in Russian prison.

The symbol has taken on it's own meaning in the sub culture of organized crime in Russia, and it has nothing to do with Hitler.

complete garbage, where do you people get this information from? Seriously, this is the most ridiculous bullshit I have ever heard.

[scurlaruntings]

Indeed, it is stupid. But looking at Aleksander, I find it kind of funny that people get more worked up about a symbol tatooed on his body than they got worked up about the fact that he committed armed robbery and proudly displays his membership in organized crime. It's not like he was ever a good person to begin with, and having a swastika on him just seems like par for the course.Hey dont get it twisted more fool him if he has a shady past.He certainly doesnt get any respect from me.But admittedly although that may be something that is frowned upon he may have seen the error of his ways.But thats just moot.A Tattoo on his body is a blatant symbol though of what he respects and what he represents as a man.If he thinks it cool to glorify his criminal past or to have tattoo`s that are linked to Facism then he gets NO RESPECT from me in the slightest.

[rydersonthestorm]

Man your not still running that whack ass line are you? :roll:
The same as your peacocks gym line then is it :lol:

[scurlaruntings]

The same as your peacocks gym line then is it :lol:Yeah the only diffrence is i actually go to the Peacocks Gym.You on the other hand live in some shed in Wales and dont go to any gym in Nottingham anymore.You might want to cover your tracks next time.

[rydersonthestorm]

Yeah the only diffrence is i actually go to the Peacocks Gym.You on the other hand live in some shed in Wales and dont go to any gym in Nottingham anymore.You might want to cover your tracks next time.
Err i lived in nottingham for 7 years m8 just becuase i don't go now doesn't mean i didn't go before, also bisping and daley are not in nottingham anymore so how could i train with them there :huhfurther to that i only moved to wales in october :roll:, and i also suspect my house is alot nicer than yours.:deal

[scurlaruntings]

Err i lived in nottingham for 7 years m8 just becuase i don't go now doesn't mean i didn't go before, also bisping and daley are not in nottingham anymore so how could i train with them there :huhfurther to that i only moved to wales in october :roll:, and i also suspect my house is alot nicer than yours.:dealBWA HA HA HA HA HA HA :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Are you fucking kidding me?! Seriously dude get the fuck out of here!!

[rydersonthestorm]

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: Are you fucking kidding me?! Seriously dude get the fuck out of here!!
I will post a picture tommorow and then you can cry about it later:|

[scurlaruntings]

I will post a picture tommorow and then you can cry about it later:|No im cool.I couldnt care less where you live.Id rather see a picture of you. You sound more like a cuddly bear than this MMA man beast that you refer to.I mean your previous line was legendary.Thats up there in ESB folklore now!

i also suspect my house is alot nicer than yours :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

No im cool.I couldnt care less where you live.Id rather see a picture of you. You sound more like a cuddly bear than this MMA man beast that you refer to.I mean your previous line was legendary.Thats up there in ESB folklore now!

i also suspect my house is alot nicer than yours :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
Well my house is in the hills in wales and had 5 bedrooms 3 bathrooms and many more thing than that so unless you ave won alot of money over the years your job can't afford a house like that.

[scurlaruntings]

Well my house is in the hills in wales and had 5 bedrooms 3 bathrooms and many more thing than that so unless you ave won alot of money over the years your job can't afford a house like that.Mate i couldnt care less wether you had a house in the sky surrounded by naked women with a billion bedrooms and a billion bathrooms.Its abundantly clear that the person that inhabits that house (namely yourself) is an absolute idiot.I mean you`ve gone from living and training in Nottingham with Bisping, to being some MMA stalwart who now lives in the Hills and Valleys of Wales in some mansion of sorts!:lol::lol:

You sure those MMA guys you practice with arent sheep?:think

[scurlaruntings]

Save your breath. The individuals you are attempting too reason with have already made up their minds. It is ironic due too the fact that said individuals only seem too support Black fighters and have zero moral compass when it comes too social indescretions committed by their own kind. Hypocracy at it's finest.

The perceived "White Racist" will continue too be their collective boogey man. Getting an open mind or productive dialogue is a pointless endeavor. Not unlike expecting a civil response, free of conjecture and bombast.

What was my point, again??? Oh yeah: Save your breath...Ahh more preamble and moot. I presume your reffering to me? Seriously mate STFU.Its clear you havent got a clue what your talking about.So yeah your right "save your breath"

[scurlaruntings]

I just found a suitable avatar. :DGood for you il get Reggie to send you a cookie in the post.:good

[RossTheBoss]

Save your breath. The individuals you are attempting too reason with have already made up their minds. It is ironic due too the fact that said individuals only seem too support Black fighters and have zero moral compass when it comes too social indescretions committed by their own kind. Hypocracy at it's finest.

The perceived "White Racist" will continue too be their collective boogey man. Getting an open mind or productive dialogue is a pointless endeavor. Not unlike expecting a civil response, free of conjecture and bombast.

What was my point, again??? Oh yeah: Save your breath...

who let you back in? Didn't you get banned in 2001 or something?

[rydersonthestorm]

Mate i couldnt care less wether you had a house in the sky surrounded by naked women with a billion bedrooms and a billion bathrooms.Its abundantly clear that the person that inhabits that house (namely yourself) is an absolute idiot.I mean you`ve gone from living and training in Nottingham with Bisping, to being some MMA stalwart who now lives in the Hills and Valleys of Wales in some mansion of sorts!:lol::lol:

You sure those MMA guys you practice with arent sheep?:think
I used to go to nottingham university where i trained mma with paul loyd davies after i finished uni i carried on living there and started training at roughhouse, i moved to wales as i got a new job at bank of america in chester.:deal

[RossTheBoss]

time to send you back to stormfront again, ey?

[scurlaruntings]

Seems like they left him behind.

[Dostoevsky]

I don't know why Aleks would have Nazi tattoo's, he went to jail in 1999, long after the Soviet Union collapsed.

[Polymath]

I don't know why Aleks would have Nazi tattoo's
Maybe he's a Nazi.








Or a Hindu.

[Dostoevsky]

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Ivan to the left.

[Polymath]

Left to right: Ivan, Fedor, and...Adrian Chiles from MoTD and Working Lunch?

[Dostoevsky]

Keping on topic of showing fighters relatives:

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Mauricio Shogun and his brother 'Shaoulin'

[scorpy]

Alexander Emelianenko and Roman Zentsov are clearly neo-nazis IMO.. of course they will never admit it, but I am very sure they are. So are a few others from the Red Devils. Funny thing is that Vadim Finkelstein is a jew :yep

MMA attracts all kinds of trash, neo-nazis are loyal visitors of these events in Europe.

btw, check this guy out

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What a piece of shit ! :twisted:

[scurlaruntings]

He`s just very religious.Or anti government im sure of it.