PBF to MMA? WHat the hell

[Rilz]

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What the hell is this all about?

[T.C.W]

30 million dollar

[Thread Stealer]

It's just a ploy, IMO.

[Rilz]

probably set him up with a cake fight anyway

[cardstars]

probably set him up with a cake fight anyway

I highly doubt he will actually fight. I think him and his new buddy satan (Cuban) are setting up their own mma league and PBF wanted to draw attention

[cardstars]

I wouldn't be mad if PBF took out some of those overrated MMA fighters.

I would absolutely love it,,,,but do you think it will actually happen? I give it a 0.001% chance

[Jose FM]

I wouldn't be mad if PBF took out some of those overrated MMA fighters.
You would be mad if Mayweather started fighting outta-shape bums in friends' backyards (as kimbo did) as long as you got a peek at you boyfriend Mayweather.

This is ridiculous and hes ridiculous for even talking about it.:patsch This is the equivalent of Jordan playing baseball. What an ego on this guy. If he really thinks hes hot shit, he should move up and fight Pavlik, see how he likes the limelight when Pavs knocks him out.

[Baby_Bull]

Hope he does and get his arse kicked.

[Silvermags]

I would absolutely love it,,,,but do you think it will actually happen? I give it a 0.001% chance

:good :good :good

Offer him double on what he got in the hatton vs pbf! Fans of MMA will pay just to watch him.

[Quik]

If they pay him 30 millions dollar what will the other MMA fighters say. They get pay peanuts compare to that...

[YOUNG*LORD]

It's all bullshit, Floyd know his hands are brittle like a 12 year old school girl. he can't fight with the gloves they use in MMA.

[compukiller]

Looks Like Mayweather vs. Lidell for next Christmas.:yep

[Yansoma]

It's all bullshit, Floyd know his hands are brittle like a 12 year old school girl. he can't fight with the gloves they use in MMA.

I'm sure it won't be a problem with all those MMA fighters that get knocked out by jabs. Half the time I see knockouts in MMA the punches don't squarely connect or don't even have the shoulder/body weight behind them. The lack of conditioning to flush blows is actually kind of embarassing to watch.

It is a myth that smaller gloves hurt you more; they only do more superficial damage to the face. Larger gloves however jar your entire brain and cause much more trauma.

[Dostoevsky]

I'd enjoy watching Floyd get wrestled down to the floor and get ground and pounded into unconciousness within 30 seconds.

[eltorrente]

Looks Like Mayweather vs. Lidell for next Christmas.:yep


You know... this actually sounds like an interesting matchup if there were conditions before the fight. I would LOVE to see how it would play-out if it was stand-up only and just striking. I wonder if PBF could avoid those bombs long enough and score enough to win in a cage? :blood

[pipe wrenched]

I honestly don't know what to think of this shit. I guess Cuban being a billionaire and needing to get his new "corner" of MMA off the ground could flash the kind of money it would take to get PBF in the MMA ring and at the same time get HUMONGOUS publicity for his MMA circle he's trying to get off the ground. I wouldn't expect to see PBF in there with a beast though. Prolly some can that will make PBF look good, and Cuban and PBF once again will deposit rather large checks and live the good life.

[pudding]

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What the hell is this all about?





"...is strongly considering...."

His sobriquet is MONEY Mayweather. He will make his strongest considerations when the offers come in.

[DoumB]

I'm sure it won't be a problem with all those MMA fighters that get knocked out by jabs. Half the time I see knockouts in MMA the punches don't squarely connect or don't even have the shoulder/body weight behind them. The lack of conditioning to flush blows is actually kind of embarassing to watch.

It is a myth that smaller gloves hurt you more; they only do more superficial damage to the face. Larger gloves however jar your entire brain and cause much more trauma.


:lol: that statement is hilarious, I've been boxing for 8 years, if we use bigger gloves for sparring (16 oz) the damage are clearly less then if we use pro(8oz) gloves, and after that u have those MMA type of glove who gives u A LOT more opportunity to knock someone out easily.

PLZ when you don't know something dont make stupid statements like that.

[Beebs]

He would just get taken down and beat pretty easily, not really all that compelling other than to shut some people up.

[Yansoma]

I'm sure it won't be a problem with all those MMA fighters that get knocked out by jabs. Half the time I see knockouts in MMA the punches don't squarely connect or don't even have the shoulder/body weight behind them. The lack of conditioning to flush blows is actually kind of embarassing to watch.

It is a myth that smaller gloves hurt you more; they only do more superficial damage to the face. Larger gloves however jar your entire brain and cause much more trauma.


:lol: that statement is hilarious, I've been boxing for 8 years, if we use bigger gloves for sparring (16 oz) the damage are clearly less then if we use pro(8oz) gloves, and after that u have those MMA type of glove who gives u A LOT more opportunity to knock someone out easily.

PLZ when you don't know something dont make stupid statements like that.
No, actually my statement is based on a scientific study regarding blunt force trauma to the brain and it's effects later on in life. Included in that was the effects immediately thereafter a blow. These findings have been subsequently been agreed upon and reported elsewhere since then. It is readily available information for anyone willing to look; which you clearly have not. No matter what your opinion may be you still are wrong. It is hard for humans to acknowledge conclusions that diverge from ones own peronsal experience. I find it hard to believe any of your argument because your credentials could be fictious for all I know. The major flaw is your unwavering belief in your own assumed knowledge. Anyone could make up what you stated and judging by your ability to put together a sentence I'm not so sure you have the ability to understand things like physics.

[Beebs]

[quote=DoumB]
No, actually my statement is based on a scientific study regarding blunt force trauma to the brain and it's effects later on in life. Included in that was the effects immediately thereafter a blow. These findings have been subsequently been agreed upon and reported elsewhere since then. It is readily available information for anyone willing to look; which you clearly have not. No matter what your opinion may be you still are wrong. It is hard for humans to acknowledge conclusions that diverge from ones own peronsal experience. I find it hard to believe any of your argument because your credentials could be fictious for all I know. The major flaw is your unwavering belief in your own assumed knowledge. Anyone could make up what you stated and judging by your ability to put together a sentence I'm not so sure you have the ability to understand things like physics.

Id be interested in seeing that study.

All the evidence I have seen, plus the laws of physics, seem to say that a single blow from a lighter or no glove is more likely to cause a concusion because there is less or no dissipation of the energy from the punch, like a car with no crumple zone. Its like steel vs wood baseball bats or golf clubs.

On the other hand continued blows from a more padded glove are more dangerous because they allow the brain to take more shots before finally going out.

In terms of one single shot, I'd prefer I get hit with the biggest glove possible.

[maracho]

Customer relations perhaps. Both sides would gain respect from some of their present detractors even if it never really transpires.

[Yansoma]

Id be interested in seeing that study.

All the evidence I have seen, plus the laws of physics, seem to say that a single blow from a lighter or no glove is more likely to cause a concusion because there is less or no dissipation of the energy from the punch, like a car with no crumple zone. Its like steel vs wood baseball bats or golf clubs.

On the other hand continued blows from a more padded glove are more dangerous because they allow the brain to take more shots before finally going out.

In terms of one single shot, I'd prefer I get hit with the biggest glove possible.
It has to do with the force spread over the surface area of impact. I'd also rather be hit with a larger glove because of my own preception of pain when compared to the smaller. The larger glove will be doing more damage internally (where it matters) regardless of what our senses tell us. You are correct about the padding allowing more damage before succumbing to concusion.

[Longhhorn71]

Two completely different sports.

The highly trained wrestler (and other variations) will get him on the ground and then "check hook" is worthless. The wrestler would put him in a submission hold...and PBF wouldn't be able to spell "tap-out" quick enough.

Uncle Roger would be whining in the corner.

[cardstars]

[quote=Yansoma]

Id be interested in seeing that study.

All the evidence I have seen, plus the laws of physics, seem to say that a single blow from a lighter or no glove is more likely to cause a concusion because there is less or no dissipation of the energy from the punch, like a car with no crumple zone. Its like steel vs wood baseball bats or golf clubs.

On the other hand continued blows from a more padded glove are more dangerous because they allow the brain to take more shots before finally going out.

In terms of one single shot, I'd prefer I get hit with the biggest glove possible.

Should start a thread on this one.....im interested too :think

[sugarngold]

I'd enjoy watching Floyd get wrestled down to the floor and get ground and pounded into unconciousness within 30 seconds.

At 205 lbs, Chuck Liddell is a bit out of Floyd's weight class - but there are plenty of fighters that would be eligible to fight him.

In mixed-martial-arts competition, a fighter like UFC Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk would destroy Mayweather in the first round. :bbb:bbb:bbb

Floyd needs years of training in the other disciplines necessary for success in MMA. However, if Floyd had a few years to build proper kickboxing defense, wrestling defense and gaurd techniques, then he could make anything happen. World champion kickboxers such as Maurice Smith were very successful in mixed-martial-arts after years of rounding out his game. Floyd could do the same, but it won't happen overnight.

We will never see Floyd Mayweather in MMA.

[sugarngold]

Two completely different sports.

The highly trained wrestler (and other variations) will get him on the ground and then "check hook" is worthless. The wrestler would put him in a submission hold...and PBF wouldn't be able to spell "tap-out" quick enough.

Uncle Roger would be whining in the corner.

Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Roger ran into the ring and hit the other fighter with a chair.

[jlmayo825]

the only reason he is thinking about is cuz he just KO'd a grappler in Hatton haha....but on a serious note i would lose respect if he did go to mma...plus if he lost to some scrub mma fighter then every fag mma fan will go on and say mma is better than boxing and that would be horrible

[Action]

He's a shot fighter and has to do something to pay the mortgage and child support.

[Shaolin Box]

bad move if he really went through with this. I hope not

[ralphc]

I'm sure it won't be a problem with all those MMA fighters that get knocked out by jabs. Half the time I see knockouts in MMA the punches don't squarely connect or don't even have the shoulder/body weight behind them. The lack of conditioning to flush blows is actually kind of embarassing to watch.

It is a myth that smaller gloves hurt you more; they only do more superficial damage to the face. Larger gloves however jar your entire brain and cause much more trauma.


:lol: that statement is hilarious, I've been boxing for 8 years, if we use bigger gloves for sparring (16 oz) the damage are clearly less then if we use pro(8oz) gloves, and after that u have those MMA type of glove who gives u A LOT more opportunity to knock someone out easily.

PLZ when you don't know something dont make stupid statements like that.


Gloves were primarily a solution the the problem of hand injuries although it was found that there were also a reduction in tearing facial skin. The presense of the glove spreads the load across a broader area. As for reducing knockouts, gloves are not the solution. Your boxing coach probably tells you to punch through the target. Putting a glove on your opponent's fist will not stop it from snapping your head back and giving you a concussion, in other words knock you out. The solution for that problem is better defense and moving your head.

Comparing the gloves from boxing to ufc/mma is a waste of time. Street fighters in the cage haven't had any serious training on how to punch, consequently they don't need as much protection for the hands. If a boxer wearing a ufc/mma glove struck a man in the forehead he would most likely break his hand. The street fighters in the cage don't break their hands because they never learned how to punch.

[Pimp C]

I'd enjoy watching Floyd get wrestled down to the floor and get ground and pounded into unconciousness within 30 seconds.
Then you're clearly not a boxing fan. I would cheer for any boxer in the world no matter who they are to beat a MMA fighter everytime.

[Dostoevsky]

Then you're clearly not a boxing fan. I would cheer for any boxer in the world no matter who they are to beat a MMA fighter everytime.

And you're a fanboy :good
I like watching boxers box and MMA fighters fight. I love both sports equally.
That doesn't mean I'm delusional enough to think a completley 1 dimensional fighter like Mayweather (or any boxer) could beat an MMA fighter.

[Pimp C]

And you're a fanboy :good
I like watching boxers box and MMA fighters fight. I love both sports equally.
That doesn't mean I'm delusional enough to think a completley 1 dimensional fighter like Mayweather (or any boxer) could beat an MMA fighter.
Then why did Dana White nor share your same confidence when Cintron took him up on his offer?

[Dostoevsky]

Cintron is not just any boxer, he had extensive amateur wrestling experience. He would be one of the very few who would achieve success in MMA.

As for the deal, I don't know anything about it.

[ralphc]

Then why did Dana White nor share your same confidence when Cintron took him up on his offer?

Huge risk, no reward. Almost everybody believes that Mayweather is the best boxing has to offer. Nobody believes that of Cintron, and nobody would buy tickets. Dana White is also clever enough to know that Cintron is a puncher and would most likely finsh off Shrek the first minute of the first round.

[pudding]

Cintron is not just any boxer, he had extensive amateur wrestling experience. He would be one of the very few who would achieve success in MMA.

As for the deal, I don't know anything about it.



mma is a joke, any street fighter could be successful in that farce.

[Beebs]

mma is a joke, any street fighter could be successful in that farce.

And yet, PBF could not.

[twenty1]

Floyd shouldn't fight anymore period especially MMA.....love his skill/style though.....



MAKES ME WANT THE MAYWEATHER/COTTO FIGHT MORE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[lyraus]

if Mayweather goes through with this, it will be an absolute disgrace to boxing, on a par with Ali fighting that wrestler Inoki in the 1970s. Why in the world would Mayweather feel like he needs to slum it in the MMA world? Even associating himself with a rumour about it just cheapens his appeal as a champion.

[Action]

if Mayweather goes through with this, it will be an absolute disgrace to boxing, on a par with Ali fighting that wrestler Inoki in the 1970s. Why in the world would Mayweather feel like he needs to slum it in the MMA world? Even associating himself with a rumour about it just cheapens his appeal as a champion.

He's a shot fighter and has to do something to pay the mortgage and child support.