how good is Odlanier Solis?

[MARVELOUS]

I havent seen him fight before althouh I have heard he's impressive. what's his fighting style like? strengths? weaknesses?

[MARVELOUS]

:fire

[MARVELOUS]

Come On Fuckers

[pioterbezkitu]

He's a fat fuck with no dedication to the sport, fucker

[Artani]

He is future of division !

[Dekkers]

The current heavy weight division is his, no contest, if he can get and stay more motivated, that's how good he is.

[rydersonthestorm]

The current heavy weight division is his, no contest, if he can get and stay more motivated, that's how good he is.
:rofl:rofl:rofl No fucking chance

[mike464]

The current heavy weight division is his, no contest, if he can get and stay more motivated, that's how good he is.If he can get into the kind of shape he was in in 2001 I can't see any one who can stand in his way. I doubt he can get into shape though.

[Cachibatches]

Fat fuck.

He weighed 201 as an amatuer, and now, at only six foot tall, weighs nearly 250 pounds, and has weighed over that.

Disgraceful. Anyone who is singing this guy's praises is living in the past.

[Shane_Erich]

Didn't Sam Peter knock out Julius Long in 1 round and Solis go 8 with him? Either way peter had alot more fights, wait and see how Solis develops.

[PH|LLA]

i saw his last fight again today and Solis is actually very fast and a very good counterpuncher.

[maciek4]

I saw him against Jeremy Bates and he was really fast and accurate and was hurting him with every punch, I know Holyfield and Golota destroyed BAtes but he was taking their punches well and was fighting back, with Solis he was totally outclassed.

[razor]

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vs. David Haye.

He was SUPER heavyweight world champion at over 230lbs too.
He is a little overweight but not as much as Sam Peter.

[rydersonthestorm]

If thats fight was in the pro's haye would have had him out of there in the first round, he was fucked and would have taken a couple of huge punches but as it was the ams the ref jumps in.

[razor]

He won by stoppage, get over it.

[TFFP]

In short, not very

Haye has progressed massively since then, whilst Solis looks like he's been training at Wendys. He looked mediocre last night against extremely poor opposition

Haye would kill him. Any top heavyweight would

[razor]

Of course any top heavyweight would he's a prospect.

[Alcaldemb]

I just saw the Solis vs Long fight and I will say that was a very poor performance on the part of Solis. His weight has come down, which is good, but his technique is still very amateurish. The truth is he has long arms so I never expect him to have very sharp compact punches, that said he still throws looping punches that are great for scoring points but don't do real damage. He needs to get down to 225 or so because he isn't getting it done.

[Odo]

In short, not very

Haye has progressed massively since then, whilst Solis looks like he's been training at Wendys. He looked mediocre last night against extremely poor opposition

Haye would kill him. Any top heavyweight would

Any top heavyweight would? Haye isnt a top heavy weight,mate! So far Bonin is his only heavy weight scalp.And lets be honest:Bonin is a very limited Polish journeyman who wouldnt last more than 3 rounds with Solis either.
Solis' last performance was very disappointing.No doubt about that! However,he has already beaten Bates,Mazikin,Sidon,Colliander,and McGee.
Good list of scalps for a fighter with just 6 pro fights,dont you think so?
Mazikin won every round against Sedrick Fields(who defeated Shannon Briggs) when they met each other a few months ago.He scored a victory against the millitary heavy weight champ Chechenev,and lost by split decision to a genuine top 30 heavy weight ,Taras Bidenko.
Colliander has a very awkward style-not easy to beat him.
Sidon is a very experienced journeyman who went the full route with Valuev in their legendary fight in the Czech Republic's capital Prague a few years ago.
Yes,Solis had a day off against Long,and yes,he looked as if he had been a regular at McDonalds for quite a few weeks before.
Nevertheless he was an outstanding amateur,and his list of defeated opponents is quite impressive for such a short pro career,too.
He has all the tools and all the talent of this world to become of champ.
Sam Peter or Calvin Brook who couldnt hold a candle to Solis are big names now.
I for my part am positive that Solis will be a mighty force in his weight division,too.
He just has to keep his nose to the grindstone and sweat in the gym instead of spending his money on junk food! Since he is based in Germany I very much hope that he soon trains under one of those grumpy old eastern German coaches.
German coaches ' strenghts are their rigid fitness programs.
Wlad still trusts in Vitaly's old coach Sdunek and follows his written fitness instructions.
Why the hell is Solis' managment not able to sign up one of those good German coaches for Solis?

[TFFP]

Any top heavyweight would? Haye isnt a top heavy weight,mate! So far Bonin is his only heavy weight scalp.And lets be honest:Bonin is a very limited Polish journeyman who wouldnt last more than 3 rounds with Solis either.
Solis' last performance was very disappointing.No doubt about that! However,he has already beaten Bates,Mazikin,Sidon,Colliander,and McGee.
Good list of scalps for a fighter with just 6 pro fights,dont you think so?
Mazikin won every round against Sedrick Fields(who defeated Shannon Briggs) when they met each other a few months ago.He scored a victory against the millitary heavy weight champ Chechenev,and lost by split decision to a genuine top 30 heavy weight ,Taras Bidenko.
Colliander has a very awkward style-not easy to beat him.
Sidon is a very experienced journeyman who went the full route with Valuev in their legendary fight in the Czech Republic's capital Prague a few years ago.
Yes,Solis had a day off against Long,and yes,he looked as if he had been a regular at McDonalds for quite a few weeks before.
Nevertheless he was an outstanding amateur,and his list of defeated opponents is quite impressive for such a short pro career,too.
He has all the tools and all the talent of this world to become of champ.
Sam Peter or Calvin Brook who couldnt hold a candle to Solis are big names now.
I for my part am positive that Solis will be a mighty force in his weight division,too.
He just has to keep his nose to the grindstone and sweat in the gym instead of spending his money on junk food! Since he is based in Germany I very much hope that he soon trains under one of those grumpy old eastern German coaches.
German coaches ' strenghts are their rigid fitness programs.
Wlad still trusts in Vitaly's old coach Sdunek and follows his written fitness instructions.
Why the hell is Solis' managment not able to sign up one of those good German coaches for Solis?
I said it in reference to the fight that was mentioned in the amateurs, rather than Haye being a top heavyweight

Haye would definitely take revenge if they were to fight tomorrow baseed on what I saw the other night. I'll take your word on his performances prior to that

[rydersonthestorm]

To be fair if you have seen the solis haye am's fight if that was the pro's haye would have won a first round ko he had solis out on his feet before the ref jumped in, haye is an excellent finisher and he would have finished him off. Solis is a good prospect but doesn't have great power and is out of shape, haye suits the pro game more.

[NBT]

I didn't see anything like "out on his feet" don't start creating myths here. Solis took a good shot and stumbled back but he wasn't seriously hurt. Even if Haye would have had the chance to follow through and had actually scored a knockdown, it wouldn't be over, Solis has good recuperation power, I doubt he would be out because of one knockdown.

[rydersonthestorm]

He was fucked for about 2 or 3 seconds and in the pro game haye would have laid him out in that timeB19Re17fmWk ala mormeck

[CASH_718]

He was fucked for about 2 or 3 seconds and in the pro game haye would have laid him out in that timeB19Re17fmWk ala mormeckShut up Haye lost get over it.

[rydersonthestorm]

Haye's the cruiserweight undisputed champ, solis is a fat cuban who can't knock out audley harrison rejects, get over it.

[TFFP]

We are gutted Haye lost in the amateurs. We'll never live it down, what with Haye only being undisputed cruiserweight champ

I'm sure we'll have a day of mourning at some point

[CASH_718]

Haye's the cruiserweight undisputed champ, solis is a fat cuban who can't knock out audley harrison rejects, get over it.I could give a fuck less about Solis. But your comparing a 20 fight pro in Haye to a prospect who hasn't even has 10 fights yet.

Your a loser.:good

[rydersonthestorm]

I could give a fuck less about Solis. But your comparing a 20 fight pro in Haye to a prospect who hasn't even has 10 fights yet.

Your a loser.:good
Your a retard how old is solis incase you hadn't noticed, coul;d it be older than haye so shut the fuck up idiot. Haye turned pro and got the cruiswerweight belt while solis was eating his way to 250lbs.

[Bubba]

Haye's the cruiserweight undisputed champ, solis is a fat cuban who can't knock out audley harrison rejects, get over it.


Haye is not the undisputed cruiser champ.

What about Enzo Maccarinelli & Steve Cunningham? They have belts too!
For Haye to be undisputed he has to defeat everyone!

[CASH_718]

Your a retard how old is solis incase you hadn't noticed, coul;d it be older than haye so shut the fuck up idiot. Haye turned pro and got the cruiswerweight belt while solis was eating his way to 250lbs.That's cause Solis couldn't turn pro because of Castro jagoff.

[CASH_718]

Haye is not the undisputed cruiser champ.

What about Enzo Maccarinelli & Steve Cunningham? They have belts too!
For Haye to be undisputed he has to defeat everyone!Cunningham's belt use to belong to O'Neil Bell who lost to Mormeck who lost to Haye so that makes Haye the real IBF champ. And Enzo is a faggot and doesn't want any part of Haye.

[razor]

Your a retard how old is solis incase you hadn't noticed, coul;d it be older than haye so shut the fuck up idiot. Haye turned pro and got the cruiswerweight belt while solis was eating his way to 250lbs.
That's not the whole story.
While Haye turned pro and until recently had zero success Solís fought at the PanAms 2003. Won.
At the Olympics 2004. Won.
And at super heavyweight at the world championships 2005. Won.

His first 6 opponents were much better than the first 6 opponents of Haye at cruiser.
I think the comparison is somewhat ridiculous.
Of course Haye is no Solís. I still kind of like him.

[rydersonthestorm]

His sixth opponent was knocked the fuck out by nobody fraudley harrison, solis couldn't do shit to him. He is a talented guy but he is fat and he isn't a big puncher. People talk about povetkin and solis only having a few fights well they are both nearing 30 and have done noting in the pro game yet, haye is the man at cruiserweight, i wonder who has done more so far.

[Cachibatches]

IF Solis' people keep fixing fights like they did against Mazikin, he could be undefeated for a long time.

[RUSKULL]

Any top heavyweight would? Haye isnt a top heavy weight,mate! So far Bonin is his only heavy weight scalp.And lets be honest:Bonin is a very limited Polish journeyman who wouldnt last more than 3 rounds with Solis either.
Solis' last performance was very disappointing.No doubt about that! However,he has already beaten Bates,Mazikin,Sidon,Colliander,and McGee.
Good list of scalps for a fighter with just 6 pro fights,dont you think so?
Mazikin won every round against Sedrick Fields(who defeated Shannon Briggs) when they met each other a few months ago.He scored a victory against the millitary heavy weight champ Chechenev,and lost by split decision to a genuine top 30 heavy weight ,Taras Bidenko.
Colliander has a very awkward style-not easy to beat him.
Sidon is a very experienced journeyman who went the full route with Valuev in their legendary fight in the Czech Republic's capital Prague a few years ago.
Yes,Solis had a day off against Long,and yes,he looked as if he had been a regular at McDonalds for quite a few weeks before.
Nevertheless he was an outstanding amateur,and his list of defeated opponents is quite impressive for such a short pro career,too.
He has all the tools and all the talent of this world to become of champ.
Sam Peter or Calvin Brook who couldnt hold a candle to Solis are big names now.
I for my part am positive that Solis will be a mighty force in his weight division,too.
He just has to keep his nose to the grindstone and sweat in the gym instead of spending his money on junk food! Since he is based in Germany I very much hope that he soon trains under one of those grumpy old eastern German coaches.
German coaches ' strenghts are their rigid fitness programs.
Wlad still trusts in Vitaly's old coach Sdunek and follows his written fitness instructions.
Why the hell is Solis' managment not able to sign up one of those good German coaches for Solis?

Well done.

[razor]

His sixth opponent was knocked the fuck out by nobody fraudley harrison, solis couldn't do shit to him. He is a talented guy but he is fat and he isn't a big puncher. People talk about povetkin and solis only having a few fights well they are both nearing 30 and have done noting in the pro game yet, haye is the man at cruiserweight, i wonder who has done more so far.

Well, you are talking about the heavyweight division at the pros.
Only Povetkin has done anything of note there.
But Solis has fought very good opposition for a prospect much better than Haye had at the start of his career.
As regards power only Haye is probably the biggest puncher of the three but as regards future as a world class heavyweight it'S 1. Povetkin, 2. (close) Solis
3. (no shot) Haye

[rydersonthestorm]

Well, you are talking about the heavyweight division at the pros.
Only Povetkin has done anything of note there.
But Solis has fought very good opposition for a prospect much better than Haye had at the start of his career.
As regards power only Haye is probably the biggest puncher of the three but as regards future as a world class heavyweight it'S 1. Povetkin, 2. (close) Solis
3. (no shot) HayeSorry but your deluded if you think solis has a better chance than haye, he is 30 pounds overweight and couldn't knock out julian long, fraudley harrison koed julian long quick in less fights than solis. Also haye is younger than both solis and povetkin and has done alot more in the pro ranks than either of them have. Number one at cruiserweight is better than winning a few fights against limited people and in regards to povetkin he has done more than solis but hasn't fought a fighter as good as mormeck yet.

[Odo]

His sixth opponent was knocked the fuck out by nobody fraudley harrison, solis couldn't do shit to him. He is a talented guy but he is fat and he isn't a big puncher. People talk about povetkin and solis only having a few fights well they are both nearing 30 and have done noting in the pro game yet, haye is the man at cruiserweight, i wonder who has done more so far.

As you correctly stated:Haye is the man at cruiser weight.
He isnt the man at heavy weight.His only scalp at heavy is a very limited Polish journeyman.
Povetkin has done nothing in the pro game yet,eh? Are you on drugs,mate?
There is no other active fighter who has been matched as bloody toughly as Povetkin up to this stage of his career.
Solis,too,has been matched very decently so far.
Neither Thyson nor Hollyfield nor Bowe nor any other of the present top American fighters has been matched as toughly as Povetkin,or Solis(in his first 6 pro fights).
Haye? He hasnt prove anything at all at heavy weight so far.

[rydersonthestorm]

As you correctly stated:Haye is the man at cruiser weight.
He isnt the man at heavy weight.His only scalp at heavy is a very limited Polish journeyman.
Povetkin has done nothing in the pro game yet,eh? Are you on drugs,mate?
There is no other active fighter who has been matched as bloody toughly as Povetkin up to this stage of his career.
Solis,too,has been matched very decently so far.
Neither Thyson nor Hollyfield nor Bowe nor any other of the present top American fighters has been matched as toughly as Povetkin,or Solis(in his first 6 pro fights).
Haye? He hasnt prove anything at all at heavy weight so far. Povetkin hasn't done anything yet, got any titles no, he hasn't beaten any top fighters not yet.
The only reason solis and povetkin are being matched up with better fighters than most heavyweights are becuase they are just starting in the pro game and they are almost 30. Haye is the youngest and is the man at cruiserweight, you have to take age into account and not just how many fights they have had.
It's like the people who say about amir kahn fighting poor people in comparison to gamboa, when gamboa is 5/6 years older, kahn could be a world champion in a year or so and would have done that 4 or 5 years before gamboa, despite the fact gamboa might be a champion with less pro fights.

[NBT]

and they are almost 30. Haye is the youngest and is the man at cruiserweight, you have to take age into account and not just how many fights they have had.
What the fuck are you smoking? They are all in the same age range. Haye is the youngest alright, but only by a few months, Solis is 6 months older, Povetkin 11 months ffs.

[Odo]

Povetkin hasn't done anything yet, got any titles no, he hasn't beaten any top fighters not yet.
The only reason solis and povetkin are being matched up with better fighters than most heavyweights are becuase they are just starting in the pro game and they are almost 30. Haye is the youngest and is the man at cruiserweight, you have to take age into account and not just how many fights they have had.
It's like the people who say about amir kahn fighting poor people in comparison to gamboa, when gamboa is 5/6 years older, kahn could be a world champion in a year or so and would have done that 4 or 5 years before gamboa, despite the fact gamboa might be a champion with less pro fights.

Povetkin? Titles? You must be joking,mate! Damn! He has only 14 pro fights.Do you expect him to get a title shot with just 6 pro fights?
Donald and Byrd are scalps for a fighter with 14 pro fights,dont you think so?
Povetkin is 28 years old.And no,he hasnt matched that toughly because of his age.Money is the name of this game.Good and know fighters with a decent reputation dont fight for free.You need a powerful promoter who is ready to spend big bucks on well known foes in order to climb up the tree that fastly.Povetkin has a powerful German promoter who believes in him because of his outstanding record at the amateurs.
Haye is younger,but that doesnt mean anything at all.He doesnt have a proven track record at heavy.And unlike Haye Povetkin wasnt floored by a cruiser weight and stopped by a limited British journeyman.
And yes,Haye is a promising fighter.I am looking forward to watching him take on a decent heavy weight.
One question:dont you think that your statement that Povetkin hasnt done anything at all at heavy weight carries off the prize?
Haye? What has he done at heavy weight so far?

[rydersonthestorm]

Haye hasn't done anything at heavyweight yet but he is the number one cruiserweight fighter and went over to france and koed the champ in his own backyard. If you don't think that is better than beating a 50 year old larry doanld and a past it chris byrd or not being able to ko julius long ??

[rydersonthestorm]

What the fuck are you smoking? They are all in the same age range. Haye is the youngest alright, but only by a few months, Solis is 6 months older, Povetkin 11 months ffs.
Haye cruiserweight champion and is younger so he has done more in hir pro caeer so far, pretty simple when you look at it.

[Alcaldemb]

Sorry but your deluded if you think solis has a better chance than haye, he is 30 pounds overweight and couldn't knock out julian long, fraudley harrison koed julian long quick in less fights than solis. Also haye is younger than both solis and povetkin and has done alot more in the pro ranks than either of them have. Number one at cruiserweight is better than winning a few fights against limited people and in regards to povetkin he has done more than solis but hasn't fought a fighter as good as mormeck yet.

Are you kidding? Povetkin dominated and stopped Byrd, who is arguably better than Mormeck, you're off your rocker.

[ripcity]

I think Solis is prety good for a 6-0 boxer. Is he the next great heaveyweight champion? It is hard to tell. He has an exlent amature background but that dose not all ways mean an exlent pro carrer.

[rydersonthestorm]

Are you kidding? Povetkin dominated and stopped Byrd, who is arguably better than Mormeck, you're off your rocker.
Byrd was better 3 years ago :roll:

[Alcaldemb]

Byrd was better 3 years ago :roll:

Mormeck spent most of his career below 180 pounds and is notorious for gassing. He is a very poor man's Jirov.

[C Money]

All I know is some make far too much of the amateurs and what happened there.

Haye's been on the right track and I'd love to see a PRO rematch.

Solis? NEEDS ACTIVITY!!!! Better get busy this could be an interesting rematch in say a year:yep

BTW? Get off that damn Povetkin vs bYRD it was a lack luster fight and if it wasnt Byrd's dad? It goes 12. It wasnt a spectacular stoppage by ANY MEANS.

[Brooklyn Boxer]

The good thing about Solis is he's fast while being overweight. Think how fast he will be when he is in shape. Solis has weight problems but he's been coming in better shape weighing less in every fight in his career. I think Haye is good but I don't know if he can be a good heavy weight. If they fought at Crusierweight I would favor Haye but I think if they fought at Heavyweight I think Solis KO him in 7.

[Odo]

Mormeck spent most of his career below 180 pounds and is notorious for gassing. He is a very poor man's Jirov.

Well spoken,alcaldemb!
Mormeck can punch though.I can still remember his encounter with Gourov who was ahead on points when Mormeck luckily landed one of his powerful shot.Otherwise he would have lost that fight IMO.
Mormeck is a very good scalp,but that doesnt mean that Haye will really be a mighty force at the big boys' league.
I would love to watch Haye take on someone like Corey Sanders.The huge American behemoth can take a punch.And he can bang a little bit as well.

[11player]

Solis is good at 250 lbs, but nothing special, can't see him into the top 10, but if he dropped down to 230-225, then it could be another story.

[madpup]

One thing about Solis, the guy has fantastic skills for a heavy, there is no denial. I really hope that he gets his shit together fitness wise, because he can play a big part in making the heavyweight division much more exciting.

[UKITAZ]

Solis will amount to an average hw and nothing more .... he doesnt have the power to test the top guys, is out of shape and likes motivation. He could possibly make top ten ... I'd try matching him with somebody liek Ray Austin, Timur Ibragimov ... maybe even Jameel Mccline and see how he fairs, after on of those we'll have a clearer idea.