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Vincent Gottschalk
07-04-2007, 09:41 PM
Lets face it John Ruiz is best US heavyweight at this point, better then Brock, better then Byrd, better then Rahman. Lets let Ruiz get the next shot at winner of Wladimir vs Brewster:happy

Club Fighter
07-04-2007, 09:53 PM
By God I'll swallow a cyanide pill laced with arsenic before I ever concede to that as the truth.

Heavyrighthand
07-04-2007, 09:54 PM
His losses were not really a cut and dried loss, so he's not been really beaten decisively in a long time.............., and he is certainly one of the best two or three american heavies, even though I think Ruiz is not really American, is he? LOL

Isn't he Puerto Rican maybe? I know Toney was making fun of him by wearing a big Sombrero at their pre fight meeting......LOL

If he is American, I'd say he and Brock would be the two best American heavies. Byrd was beaten so badly that I can't acknowledge him much anymore. LOL

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I didn't see either, but I think that neither the Valuev or Chagaev losses were a decisive loss for Ruiz.

geppy
07-04-2007, 10:05 PM
His losses were not really a cut and dried loss, so he's not been really beaten decisively in a long time.............., and he is certainly one of the best two or three american heavies, even though I think Ruiz is not really American, is he? LOL

Isn't he Puerto Rican maybe? I know Toney was making fun of him by wearing a big Sombrero at their pre fight meeting......LOL

If he is American, I'd say he and Brock would be the two best American heavies. Byrd was beaten so badly that I can't acknowledge him much anymore. LOL

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I didn't see either, but I think that neither the Valuev or Chagaev losses were a decisive loss for Ruiz.

Yeah, but Ruiz would of been beaten just as bad or worse if he fought Klitschko. Ruiz's leg humping style of fighting would be suicide , walking into jabs,and right hands of Klitschko.

Dr Gonzo
07-04-2007, 10:09 PM
Lets face it John Ruiz is best US heavyweight at this point, better then Brock, better then Byrd, better then Rahman. Lets let Ruiz get the next shot at winner of Wladimir vs Brewster:happy

he has done nothing to deserve a shot at anyone - hes just plain awful

Club Fighter
07-04-2007, 10:10 PM
Ruiz is very American. I think he's from Massachusettes, maybe Boston, but his fighting spirit does not embody that of an American. He should have been born in Manchester or somewhere similar.

badger6
07-04-2007, 10:14 PM
Lets face it John Ruiz is best US heavyweight at this point, better then Brock, better then Byrd, better then Rahman. Lets let Ruiz get the next shot at winner of Wladimir vs Brewster:happy

WTF ??? Are you drunk ???

Oh you said US heavyweight, I didn't know there were any of those left !!!

Mohak
07-04-2007, 10:22 PM
It's a pathetic state of affairs when Ruiz is regarded as the best heavy the US has.

Jinx
07-04-2007, 10:30 PM
Lets face it John Ruiz is best US heavyweight at this point, better then Brock, better then Byrd, better then Rahman. Lets let Ruiz get the next shot at winner of Wladimir vs Brewster:happy

hate to say it but there was actually a point in time when Ruiz was doing more than Byrd and Rachman, Brock shouldn't even be mentioned...but "HuggyBear" is finished now and the best heavy that resides in America is Sam Peter...

Rock0052
07-04-2007, 10:33 PM
I honestly hope Ruiz vs Klitschko happens.

It's not the best thing for the division, it's strictly for my selfish wish to see Huggy Bear get destroyed.

Heavyrighthand
07-04-2007, 10:37 PM
Finished? Merely cause he lost close decisions to two of the top heavies?

Ruiz is far from finished, by fellow fight fans. In fact, .............(cups hand to ear).........I think I hear the might engine of The Quiet Man Express, start to belch black smoke from its might stacks, and slowly come to life, once again.

Get Stoney on the phone, we've got a title to win back!!!!!!!

ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!

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C Money
07-04-2007, 10:40 PM
Ruiz is a fucking JOKE always was and always will be.
He wrestled his way to many a gift decision and his best punch is the RIGHT HAND ON THE BREAK:good

Illmatic
07-04-2007, 10:40 PM
THe great Bearded Warrior has been the best American heavy since 2000s win over Holyfield and Lewis' blatant ducking after his sneky right hand so devastated Lewis in sparring that he was banned from ever sparring with him ever again.

Heavyrighthand
07-04-2007, 10:45 PM
THe great Bearded Warrior .:lol:

In all seriousness, I think Ruiz is far from finished, seeing as how noone can decisively beat the man (noone can beat Ruiz like Tua can. :blood )

That said, I'd love to see Ruiz get in there with Sammy Peter, Brewster, or Wlad Klitschko. :good

Ruiz is better than he's given credit for on this site. Sure, his clinching is hard to watch, but you fail to admit that his clubbing right hand is damned effective as he's lunging in to clinch. He peppered Golota with it over and over again in the last half of their fightm and has clubbed his way through a string of name opponents, before his last two losses, when Valuev and Chagaev both won by apparently close decisions.

Ruiz will rise again, certainly. But if he gets in with one of the hard punchers I mentioned, he'll fall just as quickly. :good


I bet Brewster would take his head off with an uppercut as he comes lunging in. That's the key to dropping Ruiz, from what I've seen. Time and catch him coming in with a short uppercut to the beard.

Vincent Gottschalk
07-04-2007, 10:52 PM
Look at the top US heavies out side of Brewster Ruiz beats them all

# 1 Rahman, Ruiz beat him already
# 2 Holyfield, Ruiz beat him already
# 3 Toney, washed up
# 4 Holmes, Not on Ruiz level
# 5 Brock, Ruiz I think beats him
# 6 Byrd, damaged goods
# 7 Williamson, I think Ruiz beats him
# 8 Mollo, not at Ruiz level
# 9 Austin, not on Ruiz level
# 10 Thompson, I think Ruiz out works him:deal

sues2nd
07-04-2007, 11:10 PM
His losses were not really a cut and dried loss, so he's not been really beaten decisively in a long time.............., and he is certainly one of the best two or three american heavies, even though I think Ruiz is not really American, is he? LOL

Isn't he Puerto Rican maybe? I know Toney was making fun of him by wearing a big Sombrero at their pre fight meeting......LOL

If he is American, I'd say he and Brock would be the two best American heavies. Byrd was beaten so badly that I can't acknowledge him much anymore. LOL

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I didn't see either, but I think that neither the Valuev or Chagaev losses were a decisive loss for Ruiz.

He is puerto rican as his heritage....he was born and raised in Chelsea, MA...which is just about 5 mins away from where I grew up. And ya know what, I STILL CANT STAND THE GUY!!!!!

Tho, he is A HELL OF ALOT BETTER then people give him credit for. He held a share of the HW titles a few times. He beat some very good - great fighters....and other than the KO by Tua (which those shots wouldve dropped most HWs...), he has shown a great chin also.

He may be the most boring fighter out there, but that doesnt mean he isnt a good fighter.

Still he is the Nyquil of the boxing world. PUT YO ASS TO SLEEP!

Amsterdam
07-04-2007, 11:28 PM
:patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch

Heavyrighthand
07-04-2007, 11:37 PM
I am sure Zakman is unsettled, about now. Even if he's sound asleep, I am sure he can, somehow, feel the evil presense of this thread through a sixth sense or something.

DanePugilist
07-04-2007, 11:49 PM
Well since RJJ beat Ruiz, wouldnt that mean he is the best US heavyweight?

warchild
07-04-2007, 11:51 PM
Zakman will be here any time now.

oblate
07-05-2007, 03:16 PM
Lets face it John Ruiz is best US heavyweight at this point, better then Brock, better then Byrd, better then Rahman. Lets let Ruiz get the next shot at winner of Wladimir vs Brewster:happy
haha

valdosta
07-05-2007, 03:48 PM
I thought Ruiz beat Valuev clearly but I also thought he lost pretty clearly to Chagaev. Does he ever fight anymore?

emanuel_augustus
07-05-2007, 04:34 PM
Originally Posted by Illmatic
THe great Bearded Warrior .

I think you confused John Ruiz with Erik the Red.

vonBanditos
07-05-2007, 04:48 PM
If Ruiz is the best U.S. heavy then I welcome our new Soviet overlords with open arms.

the_what
07-05-2007, 04:51 PM
Ruiz has been the best US heavyweight the last 7 years. If you are just figuring this out, then you dont know boxing.

The only American that I would favor against Ruiz is Brewster. And thats only because he has the hail mary left hook that he knows how to throw in close quarters.

Bigcat
07-05-2007, 06:01 PM
Samuel Peter and Oliver McCall are the two best USA based heavyweights.

Max Molyneux
07-05-2007, 06:22 PM
His losses were not really a cut and dried loss, so he's not been really beaten decisively in a long time.............., and he is certainly one of the best two or three american heavies, even though I think Ruiz is not really American, is he? LOL

Isn't he Puerto Rican maybe? I know Toney was making fun of him by wearing a big Sombrero at their pre fight meeting......LOL

If he is American, I'd say he and Brock would be the two best American heavies. Byrd was beaten so badly that I can't acknowledge him much anymore. LOL

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I didn't see either, but I think that neither the Valuev or Chagaev losses were a decisive loss for Ruiz.
Not seen Ruiz Vs Chagaev but he got jobbed against Valuev.

Vincent Gottschalk
07-08-2007, 09:46 PM
Holyfield is too old, Rahman is to fat, Chambers is to green, the only US heavy out there that stands a chance with Wladimir is John The Quiet man Ruiz now that Brewster is out of the way lets this fight happen!:bbb