another year gone and still no heavyweight champion...

[Relentless]

for the last 3 years guys on here have been saying at the start of the year "this is it, this year....."

at the end of last year i made the exact same thread and idiots started insulting me and saying "but we are closer than ever to unification"

all this was mostly said by klit fags.

[nervousxtian]

We'll see a unified champ maybe, maybe, in 09.

[carras]

at least wlad is fighting the sultan

[dan-b]

Even if we do get a unified champ the belts wont stay together long. Plus we'll get the WBA creating another "regular" champ anyway so we'll still have some other muppet running around claiming to be champ. Probably John Ruiz who will be claiming to be a 3 time champ.:roll:

[The Funny Man 7]

Well, at least two belts will be unified, so that should give some clarity. Also, Peter will ideality get rid of Oleg at the top level setting up a megafight with VK. If Peter wins that fight too, then he'll rematch Wlad, which is clear enough for me.

[barneyrub]

Well, at least two belts will be unified, so that should give some clarity. Also, Peter will ideality get rid of Oleg at the top level setting up a megafight with VK. If Peter wins that fight too, then he'll rematch Wlad, which is clear enough for me.Sultans WBO belt is meaningless anyway.

[TheGrimReaper]

wladimir is the champ and will really be the champ when he makes sultan look like chris koval

[TFFP]

Who gives a fuck

It's pretty obvious Wlad is the man at the moment

[Heavyrighthand]

at least wlad is fighting the sultan

Right. The first step is now a done deal.

I would think everyone would be putting praise upon this first fight, instead of complaining about the situatoin. THis fight is the first part of the remedy to what you are complaining about.

[Heavyrighthand]

Well, at least two belts will be unified, so that should give some clarity. Also, Peter will ideality get rid of Oleg at the top level setting up a megafight with VK. If Peter wins that fight too, then he'll rematch Wlad, which is clear enough for me.

Peter ain't gettin by Oleg, and he certainly wouldn't get by Vitali Klitschko, rusty or not.

[RUSKULL]

Peter ain't gettin by Oleg, and he certainly wouldn't get by Vitali Klitschko, rusty or not.

I agree 100%. Any fighter that gets knocked down 3 times by McCline isn't going to last more than 4 or 5 rounds against Vitali. Peter is bound to piss VK off during the eventual news conferences and he'll probably be KO'd prior to the fight itself.

[RUSKULL]

..........and by the way, we'll have a unified champion after Wladimir KO's Ibragimov.

I already consider him to be the man to beat at HW regardless of which guys hold the other belts.

[Relentless]

..........and by the way, we'll have a unified champion after Wladimir KO's Ibragimov.

I already consider him to be the man to beat at HW regardless of which guys hold the other belts.

this is boxing, it doesn't matter who you have a man crush on, it does not mean he is 'the man'

hopefully the sultan destroys the hype job.

[Relentless]

Right. The first step is now a done deal.

I would think everyone would be putting praise upon this first fight, instead of complaining about the situatoin. THis fight is the first part of the remedy to what you are complaining about.

there is still a long time, just watch waldo pull out.

[RUSKULL]

Who gives a fuck

It's pretty obvious Wlad is the man at the moment

Numero Uno :good

[tragicliston]

there is still a long time, just watch waldo pull out.

If and when he does, you can bitch about it, but until then let's assume the fight is going ahead as planned.

[RUSKULL]

there is still a long time, just watch waldo pull out.

Wladimir is not as injury prone as his brother.

How often has he pulled out of a fight? Exactly, not often at all.

[Relentless]

Numero Uno :good

wlad will vacate his ibf when he sees the eastern euro destroyer david haye come up to heavyweight.

[RUSKULL]

this is boxing, it doesn't matter who you have a man crush on, it does not mean he is 'the man'

hopefully the sultan destroys the hype job.

Do you see the intensity on Klitschko's face in my avatar? He's determined to take his place amongst the other All-Time greats as the very best of this generation. It just kills you doesn't it? :yep It would prove your bias & limited knowledge and it's practically inevitable. :lol:

[RUSKULL]

wlad will vacate his ibf when he sees the eastern euro destroyer david haye come up to heavyweight.

I will bet a lifetime ban that Wladimir KO's Haye if they ever meet.

Will you?

[RUSKULL]

I'm waiting........................

[RUSKULL]

Do you accept or not?

[Relentless]

HELL NO!

i like Haye but not that much.

[Punisher33]

Heavyrighthand and a few other Klit huggers seem to want to make this fight out be the best thing to happen in the divsion in over 10 years, guess what no one really cares judging by most peoples posts.

Iggy is probably the worst belt holder at the moment, its not even like its 1 versus 2.
Iggy's claim to fame is beating a 45 yearold Holyfield and a asthma ridden Briggs, and this is a so called unification match? Maybe the divsion really is in worse shape than what I thought.

[skier47]

Heavyrighthand and a few other Klit huggers seem to want to make this fight out be the best thing to happen in the divsion in over 10 years, guess what no one really cares judging by most peoples posts.

Iggy is probably the worst belt holder at the moment, its not even like its 1 versus 2.
Iggy's claim to fame is beating a 45 yearold Holyfield and a asthma ridden Briggs, and this is a so called unification match? Maybe the divsion really is in worse shape than what I thought.

Iggy beat two fighters who a lot of boxing fans thought would beat
him. A lot of folks figured the massive, monster puncher Briggs would
win. After all, he only had to land one perfect punch. Evander is
like Foreman; an ageless legend who I thought nearly caught and
hurt Iggy a couple times late in the contest. Iggy is no pushover
and has impressive amatuer credentials. I'm going to watch this
fight as I'm sure you will too.

[Punisher33]

Iggy beat two fighters who a lot of boxing fans thought would beat
him. A lot of folks figured the massive, monster puncher Briggs would
win. After all, he only had to land one perfect punch. Evander is
like Foreman; an ageless legend who I thought nearly caught and
hurt Iggy a couple times late in the contest. Iggy is no pushover
and has impressive amatuer credentials. I'm going to watch this
fight as I'm sure you will too. Of course I will be watching this fight, I havent missed a Wlad fight in over 5 years. Heavyrighthand seems to think this fight will have a huge impact on the popularity of the divsion, I disagree. This fight will help the struggling division, but its certainly not the fight to save it.

I personally would rather see Wlad fight Chagaev, Valuev, and most of all a rematch with Peter. Iggy/Wlad is a decent fight, nothing more nothing less.

[skier47]

Of course I will be watching this fight, I havent missed a Wlad fight in over 5 years. Heavyrighthand seems to think this fight will have a huge impact on the popularity of the divsion, I disagree. This fight will help the struggling division, but its certainly not the fight to save it.

I personally would rather see Wlad fight Chagaev, Valuev, and most of all a rematch with Peter. Iggy/Wlad is a decent fight, nothing more nothing less.

Unfortunately, Punisher33 the only thing that will have a huge impact
on the popularity of the heavyweight division is if and when a talented
AMERICAN fighter emerges that can credibly challenge Wlad for
supremacy. I see nobody on the horizon. Do You? Boxing fanatics
like everybody on this terrific website want to see the fights you
pointed out but the average fan has no idea who those eastern-
euro dudes are and Peter is damaged goods. He won't diet properly.
He was magnificent in his fight with Wlad and he was 15 to 20lb.
lighter!!! He reminds me of two other talented heavys--Kirk Johnson
and David Tua; they eat too much!!! Anyhow we've got a unification
fight and maybe it will force the other pretenders to call Wlad
out if he beats Iggy and some excitement will return to the division.

[Punisher33]

Unfortunately, Punisher33 the only thing that will have a huge impact
on the popularity of the heavyweight division is if and when a talented
AMERICAN fighter emerges that can credibly challenge Wlad for
supremacy. I see nobody on the horizon. Do You? Boxing fanatics
like everybody on this terrific website want to see the fights you
pointed out but the average fan has no idea who those eastern-
euro dudes are and Peter is damaged goods. He won't diet properly.
He was magnificent in his fight with Wlad and he was 15 to 20lb.
lighter!!! He reminds me of two other talented heavys--Kirk Johnson
and David Tua; they eat too much!!! Anyhow we've got a unification
fight and maybe it will force the other pretenders to call Wlad
out if he beats Iggy and some excitement will return to the division. I agree with you there, an american fighter with personality and power would really improve the popularity of the division, I think most people are waiting for the second coming of Tyson, to be honest I doubt I will be alive to see it.

I think the divsion does have talent, guys like Chagaev, Povetkin, Peter, and Wlad are all pretty exciting to watch for the most part, the problem is there not fighting each other, yes Peter and Wlad fought, but alot of people like myself want to see it again because we werent convinced that Wlad would be able to beat him again. All Im saying is Iggy/Wlad is nothing to write home about, and its nothing more than just another Wlad fight to me.

[skier47]

I agree with you there, an american fighter with personally and power would really improve the popularity of the division, I think most people are waiting for the second coming of Tyson, to be honest I doubt I will be alive to see it.

I think divsion does have talent, guys like Chagaev, Povetkin, Peter, and Wlad are all pretty exciting to watch for the most part, the problem is there not fighting each other, yes Peter and Wlad fought, but alot of people like myself want to see it again because we werent convinced would be able to beat him again. All Im saying is Iggy/Wlad is nothing to write home about, and its nothing more than just another Wlad fight to me.

That's an interesting commentary, especially coming from you, a
noted Wlad chin-critic. I saw Sultan decimate a fighter with a single
punch or two just prior to the Briggs fight. This Sultan dude has
some serious power at least against B-level fighters and is a good
in-fighter. No fight concerning Wlad is "just another fight to me."
I'm always concerned that they will penetrate his much improved
defense which has improved under the tutlelidge of Steward.
It's weird but I think you have more faith in Wlad's beard than I.

[barneyrub]

..........and by the way, we'll have a unified champion after Wladimir KO's Ibragimov.

I already consider him to be the man to beat at HW regardless of which guys hold the other belts.The WBO belt means nothing, beating Ibragamov does though, he holds the line of victory over wlad courtesy of beating the guy who beat the guy who beat Brewster. This has more relevance to avenging that defeat than beating the one eyed shell of Brewster. Other than that this brings us nowhere near a unified champ.
Wlad will retire soon anyway, he is a smart man and if he did win the other belts he wont hang about and its all going to be wide open again real soon.

[Punisher33]

That's an interesting commentary, especially coming from you, a
noted Wlad chin-critic. I saw Sultan decimate a fighter with a single
punch or two just prior to the Briggs fight. This Sultan dude has
some serious power at least against B-level fighters and is a good
in-fighter. No fight concerning Wlad is "just another fight to me."
I'm always concerned that they will penetrate his much improved
defense which has improved under the tutlelidge of Steward.
It's weird but I think you have more faith in Wlad's beard than I. Well its been noted that Iggy lost his aggresive style after the Austin fight, where he was floored and ended up getting a draw in that fight. If Iggy was gun shy against Holyfield, I could only imagine what he will look like fighting a heavy punching fighter like Wlad, even if he comes in with the plan to be more aggresive in this fight, it will suddenly change when he gets hit with the first big right hand.

I think Iggy will stay at a distance and run most of the night, Manny will then tell Wlad hes losing the fight in 6 round, to get him to start using his right hand more. Iggy will get caught with something big by the 7th and will end up being TKO'd, I think this will be Iggy's retirement match if he loses.

[skier47]

Well its been noted that Iggy lost his aggresive style after the Austin fight, where he was floored and ended up getting a draw in that fight. If Iggy was gun shy against Holyfield, I could only imagine what he will look like fighting a heavy punching fighter like Wlad, even if he comes in with the plan to be more aggresive in this fight, it will suddenly change when he gets hit with the first big right hand.

I think Iggy will stay at a distance and run most of the night, Manny will then tell Wlad hes losing the fight in 6 round, to get him to start using his right hand more. Iggy will get caught with something big by the 7th and will end up being TKO'd, I think this will be Iggy's retirement match if he loses.

Yeah, I think you maybe have run me into the ground on this issue.
Iggy seems to be running a little scared since Austin. I want Iggy
to BOX not FIGHT big Wlad. Use that southpaw style and underated
power and in-fighting skills but Wlad probably just overpowers the
kid. I'm still very impressed with his victory's over Briggs and
especially the living legend Evander Holyfield.

[Punisher33]

Yeah, I think you maybe have run me into the ground on this issue.
Iggy seems to be running a little scared since Austin. I want Iggy
to BOX not FIGHT big Wlad. Use that southpaw style and underated
power and in-fighting skills but Wlad probably just overpowers the
kid. I'm still very impressed with his victory's over Briggs and
especially the living legend Evander Holyfield. Beating "Asthmatic" Briggs and "Old man" Holyfield is not that great of a feat even in todays struggling divsion, if he beats Wlad will give him all the props in the world and would admit I heavily underestimated him, but I doubt that will happen.

If Iggy tries boxing Wlad then he's in for one hell of a beat down, he's better of running scared for 6 rounds hopping Wlad tires out and he can catch him with something. If I was Iggy I would try and Blitz Wlad right off the bat, try and make him feel uncomfortable and try catching him with something big while hes backing up.

[Zakman]

Peter ain't gettin by Oleg, and he certainly wouldn't get by Vitali Klitschko, rusty or not.

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Peter is gonna knock glass-jawed Oleg OUT COLD, and early too. Vitali's a whole different ballgame, but with his inactivity, without a tuneup, I'd lean towards Peter.

[RUSKULL]

HELL NO!

i like Haye but not that much.

I didn't think so. :cool:

[RUSKULL]

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

Peter is gonna knock glass-jawed Oleg OUT COLD, and early too. Vitali's a whole different ballgame, but with his inactivity, without a tuneup, I'd lean towards Peter.

Seriously? If McCline can send Peter to the canvas 3 times I'm fairly certain that Vitali will KO him. Remember, VK had Danny Williams ready to go in the first round, and I think he let him off the hook just to punish him longer.

[Heavyrighthand]

Of course I will be watching this fight, I havent missed a Wlad fight in over 5 years. Heavyrighthand seems to think this fight will have a huge impact on the popularity of the divsion, I disagree. This fight will help the struggling division, but its certainly not the fight to save it.

I personally would rather see Wlad fight Chagaev, Valuev, and most of all a rematch with Peter. Iggy/Wlad is a decent fight, nothing more nothing less.

I never said the fight will have a huge impact. I DID say, however, that its the START to getting a unified champion, and having a unified champoin, WILL have a huge impact.

Most certianly.

But this fight, in itself, is a big deal for the division, it certainly is. It will be a good slap in the face to start to wake up the sport's heavyweight division, after over 8 years without any unifying fights.


The tickets were going fast, last I read, and this was quite a while ago. So I think this fight is going to be more successful than most realize, or want to admit. Having a single unfiied heavyweight champion will get the division back to its feet.

Afterall, after one man has both the WBO and IBF, then all everyone will be wondering and talking about, will be when Chag will get in on it, too.

Onward and upward.

[kaygb]

Do you see the intensity on Klitschko's face in my avatar? He's determined to take his place amongst the other All-Time greats as the very best of this generation. It just kills you doesn't it? :yep It would prove your bias & limited knowledge and it's practically inevitable. :lol:

You guys really kill me talking about looking at the intensity on a fighters face. That's all some of the Oscarsexuals kept saying after Oscars photos showed up on ESB of him working out before the PBF fight. "wow, look at Oscars face, oh my God, that determination", etc., etc., etc. :lol: :lol: And saying he will ever take his place among other ATG's is a joke considering the weakness of the division today. Beating guys like Austin, Brock, one-eyed Brewster, over-the-hill Byrd and so on just doesn't make it. Sure he will beat Iggy but that certainly is not a step to all-time greatness. It's too bad but there is no one today that's worth really getting excited about. No one.
"see the intensity on Klitschko's face in my avatar". :rofl

[RUSKULL]

You guys really kill me talking about looking at the intensity on a fighters face. That's all some of the Oscarsexuals kept saying after Oscars photos showed up on ESB of him working out before the PBF fight. "wow, look at Oscars face, oh my God, that determination", etc., etc., etc. :lol: :lol: And saying he will ever take his place among other ATG's is a joke considering the weakness of the division today. Beating guys like Austin, Brock, one-eyed Brewster, over-the-hill Byrd and so on just doesn't make it. Sure he will beat Iggy but that certainly is not a step to all-time greatness. It's too bad but there is no one today that's worth really getting excited about. No one.
"see the intensity on Klitschko's face in my avatar". :rofl

Um, yeah that was really funny.....................:-(

I'm not a big Oscar fan either, bark up a different tree next time out scooter.

[Relentless]

You guys really kill me talking about looking at the intensity on a fighters face. That's all some of the Oscarsexuals kept saying after Oscars photos showed up on ESB of him working out before the PBF fight. "wow, look at Oscars face, oh my God, that determination", etc., etc., etc. :lol: :lol: And saying he will ever take his place among other ATG's is a joke considering the weakness of the division today. Beating guys like Austin, Brock, one-eyed Brewster, over-the-hill Byrd and so on just doesn't make it. Sure he will beat Iggy but that certainly is not a step to all-time greatness. It's too bad but there is no one today that's worth really getting excited about. No one.
"see the intensity on Klitschko's face in my avatar". :rofl

kaygb, please stay out of my thread kid, you are not funny, jack presscot is funny but you are stupid.