View Full Version : Why the heavyweight division needs Ibragimov to beat Wlad
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
KobeIsGod
12-27-2007, 05:21 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
people give shit to us wlad nuthuggers, wald haters are even worse. First of all, Austin was a mandatory. If he didnt fight him, wlad would have been stripped. U can thank Don King for that debacle. And didnt Austin nearly beat Iggy. Infact, had a slip been ruled a kd, he would have lost to Ray Austin :rofl Dont blame conditioning either. that's his friggin fault he showed up llooking ike a beachball. Moreover, he just fought a near 50-year old as an optional and beat an asthmatic for the wbo. He's a real giant slayer! lol
Second of all, Wlad tried to immediately unify with Maskaev but he declined. He tried with valuev but he lost. If anybody is holding up the division, it is the White Tyson and Maskaev. What the hell have either of them done since they won their trinkets? Those two are holding the belts hostage. Chagaev has an optional against 40-year old skelton and maskaev had his against ohkello. I hate to say this, but i wouldnt mind peter beating maskaev so at least will have some progress.
Hate to break it to u, but wlad is gonna be the next undisputed champ. Trust me :nod
Punisher33
12-27-2007, 05:27 PM
I hope your right Jet, but I cant see it. The only chance a guy like Iggy has is landing a big punch on Wlads glass chin, which I doubt will happen, considering his lack of aggression against ever fighter after Austin floored him a couple years back.
Iggy is not good for the haevyweight divsion, he has limmited power and unimpressive style that almost put me to sleep when he fought Holyfield and Briggs. As much as it pains me to say this, Wlad is better for the heavyweight divsion, he at least knocks people out and over the last 2 years his wins have been very one-sided.
people give shit to us wlad nuthuggers, wald haters are even worse. First of all, Austin was a mandatory. If he didnt fight him, wlad would have been stripped. U can thank Don King for that debacle. And didnt Austin nearly beat Iggy. Infact, had a slip been ruled a kd, he would have lost to Ray Austin :rofl Dont blame conditioning either. that's his friggin fault he showed up llooking ike a beachball. Moreover, he just fought a near 50-year old as an optional and beat an asthmatic for the wbo.
Second of all, Wlad tried to immediately unify with Maskaev but he declined.
I'm not a Wlad hater. I respect him as the most dangerous of the champs, but on the same token Iggy only fought Holy as a replacement to a failed unification bout and you're right, Iggy did almost lose to Ray Austin, but almost doesn't quite cut it in boxing. Wlad did lose to Brewster, Sanders, and Purrity, but i'm not throwing that in anybodies face because I don't think those loses will be relevent now. Iggy has improved with Mayweather since the Austin fight and Wlad has improved with Manny since his loss. Thing is Wlad chose to fight Brewster who was inactive for a year coming off of a loss and retina detachment, but fans blow that victory out of proportion even though Wlad ALMOST beat Brewster until he passed out from "too much vaseline on his legs":lol:. Bottomline is the other champs aren't intimidated by Iggy so they will readily accept unification; but he is better than Peter, Maskaev, and Chageav so he is better for the heavyweight division ... only if you want to see a unified champ.
Asterion
12-27-2007, 05:32 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
The problem with this post is that Ibragimov has said he wants to retire soon. His mother and family suffer a lot when he fights and he's already planning a premature retirement.
The problem with this post is that Ibragimov has said he wants to retire soon. His mother and family suffer a lot when he fights and he's already planning a premature retirement.
All the more reason for Iggy not to beat around the bush when it comes to unification. I'm not saying he will be the unified champ, but it is more likely that he will set it up for the next unified champ.
JAM Killer
12-27-2007, 05:39 PM
I really don't see Ibragimov beating Wlad. Wlad is at his height right now. But I would like him to beat Wlad.
Heavyrighthand
12-27-2007, 08:48 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
IF the chances of Wlad going on to unify is less than if Ibrag unifying if he wins, is cause the other titleholders are afraid Wlad will take their head off, and they are confident they can beat Ibragimov.:lol:
True.:good
Heavyrighthand
12-27-2007, 08:56 PM
Bottomline is the other champs aren't intimidated by Iggy so they will readily accept unification; but he is better than Peter, Maskaev, and Chageav so he is better for the heavyweight division ... only if you want to see a unified champ.
Now, you've got it.
But if they do avoid Wlad, at least we've got a dominant fighter with two titles, pushing for the third.
But I think Wlad's people will push for a Chag fight so hard, and the fight fans will want it so bad, that they won't be able to avoid it for very long.
iceman
12-27-2007, 09:43 PM
IF the chances of Wlad going on to unify is less than if Ibrag unifying if he wins, is cause the other titleholders are afraid Wlad will take their head off, and they are confident they can beat Ibragimov.:lol:
True.:good
Chagaev has stated several times that he just wants to fight the other beltholders - i think we could actually have a unified heavyweight within the next 18-24 months :happy
audio101
12-27-2007, 10:04 PM
Shit thread!
Boxer-puncher
12-27-2007, 10:06 PM
It can't happen and it won't happen. If Ibragimov wins, the heavyweight division will go from bad to worse.
Punisher33
12-27-2007, 10:07 PM
Chagaev has stated several times that he just wants to fight the other beltholders - i think we could actually have a unified heavyweight within the next 18-24 months :happy I wouldnt count on that, if he's going to back out against Iggy who's to say he wont back out against Wlad when the time comes?
barneyrub
12-27-2007, 10:17 PM
Ibragamov has no chance, not just because you might say wlad is so good, its just that Ibragamov isnt and couldnt even beat Austin. Thats the reality!
link2296
12-28-2007, 01:52 AM
Ibragamov has no chance, not just because you might say wlad is so good, its just that Ibragamov isnt and couldnt even beat Austin. Thats the reality!
Styles make fights...Sultan fights a more intelligent fight with Jeff Mayweather. He is a southpaw with exceptionally fast hands and deceptive power. The last guy that fought Wlad with all of these attributes was Corrie Sanders. If Wlad overlooks this guy, he is in serious trouble. I am a huge Klitschko Bros fan and I don't feel that this fight is a blowout. I hope Wlad has to fight trough some adversity. Maybe he will start to gain the respect of his biggest critics.
Caliboxing
12-28-2007, 02:21 AM
Wladimir has said that he doesn't consider himself the champ but one of the champions until he unifies and I believe that he really wants to be undisputed. Ibragimov will be a good test to see if Wlad has figured out how to deal with someone similar to Corrie Sanders and I give him credit for taking the fight.
link2296
12-28-2007, 02:28 AM
Wladimir has said that he doesn't consider himself the champ but one of the champions until he unifies and I believe that he really wants to be undisputed. Ibragimov will be a good test to see if Wlad has figured out how to deal with someone similar to Corrie Sanders and I give him credit for taking the fight.
I agree!!
Still~style
12-28-2007, 02:37 AM
ibragimov has zero chance against wlad. zero.
Marciano Frazier
12-28-2007, 04:59 AM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!: Austin was Wlad's mandatory. Do you think being stripped of the belt he already had would have helped him unify the championship? If he beats Ibragimov, he's halfway to having an undisputed world championship; do you seriously think he'll stop there?
11player
12-28-2007, 05:43 AM
Just heard Sultan's opened training camp for Wlad's fight.
That means only now he is starting with specific boxing training for the fight, right? (sparring, etc) but he is in shape at cardio and wheight training, right?
These guys are supposed to be athletes, I hope they don't go sit on their asses for months between fights. Well, at least for Sultan's sake.
RUSKULL
12-28-2007, 09:44 AM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
Lame. As if Austin was Wlad's choice for a defense & not a Don KIng Mandatory.
Heavyrighthand
12-28-2007, 10:01 AM
I wouldnt count on that, if he's going to back out against Iggy who's to say he wont back out against Wlad when the time comes?
Right.
I think Chagaev will be purused, heavily, by Wlad to further unify. But Chagaev will see what happened to Ibragimov, and that, coupled with his manager Kohl, being in a spat with the K bros, will make this fight hard for Wlad to get them to agree to.
But I think the demand will be strong for it, and I think we'll see it, at some point over the next year or so.
As I recall, there was a recent german site article that said that Wlad's people have already contacted Chag's people about further unification.
So anyone thinking that Wlad is not committed to unifying don't know what they are talking about. Klitscko is the one pushing for unification, whereas someone like Chag merely says he is, but then does somethign else.
But credit to Sultan for taking this fight. He proved himself, to me.
Punisher33
12-28-2007, 01:22 PM
Right.
I think Chagaev will be purused, heavily, by Wlad to further unify. But Chagaev will see what happened to Ibragimov, and that, coupled with his manager Kohl, being in a spat with the K bros, will make this fight hard for Wlad to get them to agree to.
But I think the demand will be strong for it, and I think we'll see it, at some point over the next year or so.
As I recall, there was a recent german site article that said that Wlad's people have already contacted Chag's people about further unification.
So anyone thinking that Wlad is not committed to unifying don't know what they are talking about. Klitscko is the one pushing for unification, whereas someone like Chag merely says he is, but then does somethign else.
But credit to Sultan for taking this fight. He proved himself, to me. Thanks for the info, Wlad has always been interested in unification, that I will give him. I just think theres too many factors involved in getting the Chagaev/Wlad fight made, especially if Wlad decapitates Iggy in simple fashion, which Im guessing will happen.
I would love to see Wlad face his biggest challange since Peter, I just question wether Chagaev wants unification as much as Wlad wants it. The way I see it is, Wlads trying to cement his legacy, while Chagaev is trying to hold on to the title as long as he can. Time will tell what happens, but Im hoping Chagaev/Wlad gets made sometime in late in 08.:good
DamonD
12-28-2007, 02:37 PM
Other way around I think - the HW division needs a clear top dog, and at the moment despite his previous losses, Wladimir fits the bill a lot better.
If Iggy pulls off the upset, that'll really upset the whole applecart. Nevermind Bowe and Holyfield, we'd probably have Pinklon Thomas and Mike Weaver dusting off the gloves with hopes of a miracle.
brooklyn1550
12-28-2007, 02:40 PM
Really? I think a Wladimir victory would be better for the division. He seems ready to unify all the belts, and to be honest, he doesn't have much to fear.
Heavyrighthand
12-28-2007, 02:43 PM
. I just think theres too many factors involved in getting the Chagaev/Wlad fight made, especially if Wlad decapitates Iggy in simple fashion,
Yes, the biggest factor being Chagaev's fear. :lol:
The second being his promoter not wanting to just give the WBA to Klitschko, which is probably what would happen. But if they have already contacted Chag's people, maybe communictaion lines are already being established.
A second unificatoin fight would be alot bigger than this upcoming one is, and from what I read, this one is gonna be big.:good
Punisher33
12-28-2007, 02:58 PM
Yes, the biggest factor being Chagaev's fear. :lol:
The second being his promoter not wanting to just give the WBA to Klitschko, which is probably what would happen. But if they have already contacted Chag's people, maybe communictaion lines are already being established.
A second unificatoin fight would be alot bigger than this upcoming one is, and from what I read, this one is gonna be big.:good While it may be big Germany, its not going to have much of an impact on the states. Im the only guy I know thats going to be watching this fight, everybody I know that watches boxing are waiting for fights that involve B-Hop, Mayweather, or RJJ, there is no word on the street or even on the sports channels about this fight, I dont even think they will have a countdown for this fight on HBO or that.
It just seems like another fight to most people, I know in the past a unification fight at the Heavyweight level used to be an event, I guess most people have given up on the heavyweight divsion, which sucks.:verysad
Napoleon
12-28-2007, 03:08 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
If Ibragimov beats when, then he will lose to the next good guy he fights, and we will be right where we started.
KobeIsGod
12-28-2007, 05:37 PM
While it may be big Germany, its not going to have much of an impact on the states. Im the only guy I know thats going to be watching this fight, everybody I know that watches boxing are waiting for fights that involve B-Hop, Mayweather, or RJJ, there is no word on the street or even on the sports channels about this fight, I dont even think they will have a countdown for this fight on HBO or that.
It just seems like another fight to most people, I know in the past a unification fight at the Heavyweight level used to be an event, I guess most people have given up on the heavyweight divsion, which sucks.:verysad
lol. it's funny how people say the hws suck and cant draw but from all reports MSG will likely be sold out when Wlad-Iggy get it on. Hometown guys like judah and cory stinks fight in ballrooms and far from capacity arenas. Shit, even Mormeck-Bell I and II were in front of like a couple thousand. The second fight was in France. The hws arent as bad as most say but paper champs like chagaev/maskaev dont help. Iggy and Wlad want to be the best and understand you have to fight the best to make such a claim. Trust me :yep
Punisher33
12-28-2007, 05:47 PM
lol. it's funny how people say the hws suck and cant draw but from all reports MSG will likely be sold out when Wlad-Iggy get it on. Hometown guys like judah and cory stinks fight in ballrooms and far from capacity arenas. Shit, even Mormeck-Bell I and II were in front of like a couple thousand. The second fight was in France. The hws arent as bad as most say but paper champs like chagaev/maskaev dont help. Iggy and Wlad want to be the best and understand you have to fight the best to make such a claim. Trust me :yep Im not questioning its popularity in European countries, but do you really see this fight being that popular on tv in the usa? I dont, most people in there 20s and 30s rather watch UFC or Mayweather, Hopkins, or RJJ on PPV.
I think this fight is important to the Heavyweight divsion, I just dont see enough people watching it in the united states to be considered an event, every Heavyweight unification match I remember was a big deal, and always on PPV, this fight just doesnt appeal to the average fan.:verysad
KobeIsGod
12-28-2007, 05:59 PM
Im not questioning its popularity in European countries, but do you really see this fight being that popular on tv in the usa? I dont, most people in there 20s and 30s rather watch UFC or Mayweather, Hopkins, or RJJ on PPV.
I think this fight is important to the Heavyweight divsion, I just dont see enough people watching it in the united states to be considered an event, every Heavyweight unification match I remember was a big deal, and always on PPV, this fight just doesnt appeal to the average fan.:verysad
well i think it certaintly means a lot here when u consider it's at MSG where it will be a sellout. Wlad drew 14k here when he fought brock. so obviously he has some influence over here otherwise he would just fight in germany, especially since he is fighting another unkown euro.
Punisher33
12-28-2007, 06:09 PM
well i think it certaintly means a lot here when u consider it's at MSG where it will be a sellout. Wlad drew 14k here when he fought brock. so obviously he has some influence over here otherwise he would just fight in germany, especially since he is fighting another unkown euro. I guess, Wlads last fight against Brewster did well in Germany. All Im saying is theres no buzz about this fight in the bars or in the streets, fights like Oscar/Mayweather or even Mayweather/Hatton people every where were talking about it, even the friends I knew that didnt even watch boxing wanted to see it. I just think the Heavyweight division is in such a big slump the average fan sort of forgot it about it, some people I know still think Lewis holds the belts!:patsch
KobeIsGod
12-28-2007, 06:15 PM
I guess, Wlads last fight against Brewster did well in Germany. All Im saying is theres no buzz about this fight in the bars or in the streets, fights like Oscar/Mayweather or even Mayweather/Hatton people every where were talking about it, even the friends I knew that didnt even watch boxing wanted to see it. I just think the Heavyweight division is in such a big slump the average fan sort of forgot it about it, some people I know still think Lewis holds the belts!:patsch
i agree there is a lot of apathy in general. when u have 2 beltholders like chagaev/maskaev it's a problem. Wlad just needs to unifiy and do it in dominant fashion. If he can get Iggy and Chagaev this year, it would be a huge step. That one part! The other is for a exciting and dominant challenger to come around.
Scam Beater looked the part but he's clearly not the answer and he might even end up in prison. Povetkin or Haye are possibilities but Im not sold on either yet. It would be great if this guy could be an American, but I wont count on it.
Wlad being a non-American is clearly a problem generating buzz.
Punisher33
12-28-2007, 06:28 PM
i agree there is a lot of apathy in general. when u have 2 beltholders like chagaev/maskaev it's a problem. Wlad just needs to unifiy and do it in dominant fashion. If he can get Iggy and Chagaev this year, it would be a huge step. That one part! The other is for a exciting and dominant challenger to come around.
Scam Beater looked the part but he's clearly not the answer and he might even end up in prison. Povetkin or Haye are possibilities but Im not sold on either yet. It would be great if this guy could be an American, but I wont count on it.
Wlad being a non-American is clearly a problem generating buzz. I agree with most of your post, I just dont agree with your theory of Wlad not being american, so he's not popular in the states. Wlad's use to be a more of a exciting fighter, but now his jab and grab style has lost him some interest among the average fan. Most americans want to see heavyweights that can throw a big punch and take a good one as well, Wlads weak chin prevents him from giving the american fans what they want to see.
I think if Wlad beats Iggy it will be a start, but most fans want to see him fight better oppenents or at least have him engage in more competitve fights, like Chagaev, Peter, or even Valuev which they could market quite well considering both mens height.
If Ibragimov beats when, then he will lose to the next good guy he fights, and we will be right where we started.\
What makes you think that if Iggy can beat Wlad he will lose to the next good fighter he faces? Logic please.:huh
pudding
01-03-2008, 02:10 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
If Klitschko brings his A-game I am not sure Ibragimov will get the job done. Ibragimov tends to loop his shots which gives the straight shooting Klitschko a style advantage. Ibragimov's only real hope is to find a way to induce Klitschko to self destruct. Neutralizing the jab would be a good start.
KobeIsGod
01-03-2008, 02:17 PM
If Klitschko brings his A-game I am not sure Ibragimov will get the job done. Ibragimov tends to loop his shots which gives the straight shooting Klitschko a style advantage. Ibragimov's only real hope is to find a way to induce Klitschko to self destruct. Neutralizing the jab would be a good start.
excellent point with regard to sultan. he also crosses his feet when he moves to his left leaving him extremely open to the straight right. moreover, southpaws are easier to hit w/the right anyway.
and people keep saying wlad has a paper mache chin but sultan's isnt exactly granite. it's not as bad as in the austin fight since he took flush shots from briggs and holyfield. however, those were single shots. wlad is gonna hit him with combinations and that will crack sultan's chin.
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
What a ridicilious post, if Iggy wins then the heavyweight division litterally hits rock bottom. Wladimir is the only reason people still watch the heavyweight division. And he's light years ahead of Ibragimov in the skill factor.
RUSKULL
01-03-2008, 02:33 PM
If Klitschko brings his A-game I am not sure Ibragimov will get the job done. Ibragimov tends to loop his shots which gives the straight shooting Klitschko a style advantage. Ibragimov's only real hope is to find a way to induce Klitschko to self destruct. Neutralizing the jab would be a good start.
True.
Heavyrighthand
01-03-2008, 03:01 PM
excellent point with regard to sultan. he also crosses his feet when he moves to his left leaving him extremely open to the straight right. moreover, southpaws are easier to hit w/the right anyway.
and people keep saying wlad has a paper mache chin but sultan's isnt exactly granite. it's not as bad as in the austin fight since he took flush shots from briggs and holyfield. however, those were single shots. wlad is gonna hit him with combinations and that will crack sultan's chin.
I think we'll see Sultan being approached by Nike after this figiht, to have him sponsor their latest running shoe.
LeadLeftHook
01-03-2008, 03:06 PM
Ibragimov looks like a regular guy, he looks fat and out of shape. So its not good for boxing.
LennoxGOAT
01-03-2008, 03:15 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Zakman
01-03-2008, 03:36 PM
Think about it. Ibragimov has had 2 unification bouts scheduled within 5 months. What other heavyweight champ, INCLUDING WLAD, has scheduled a unification bout and gone through with it in the past 3+ years. If Ibragimov wins then the possibility of us getting a unified champ in the next 2 years goes through the roof; if Wlad wins he'll go back to fighting the Ray Austins of the division, trying to avenge his losses to Ross and Corrie, and desperate fans will continue to claim he's the best thing since American independence. For the sake of the Heavyweight division, I hope Iggy can be Rocky Balboa to Wladimir's Ivan Drago:!:
Nonsense. Klitschko winning is FAR better for HW unification. He's a better fighter who is FAR more likely to unify than Ibragimov - who, even if he were to get by Wlad, wouldn't hold a title for long.
Real boxing fans should root for a dominant champ to emerge. Wlad is the most likely to be that guy.
TheGrimReaper
01-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Sultan would be better suited to fight Chris Koval
pudding
01-03-2008, 10:25 PM
Nonsense. Klitschko winning is FAR better for HW unification. He's a better fighter who is FAR more likely to unify than Ibragimov - who, even if he were to get by Wlad, wouldn't hold a title for long.
Real boxing fans should root for a dominant champ to emerge. Wlad is the most likely to be that guy.
Do you really want a "dominant champ" who could fall to pieces at any time? A true champion puts up a tough fight every time and doesn't self destruct at the first sign of adversity. Klitschko only looks dominant when his opponents give him an easy night. When is the last time he beat somebody who came to fight and win?
cardstars
01-03-2008, 10:30 PM
Everyone needs to hold their horses on this one. I hope Wlad beats Iggy (which I predict will happen anyways) so that Povetkin will be the one to take Wlad down; mark my words
Heavyrighthand
01-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Klitschko only looks dominant when his opponents give him an easy night. When is the last time he beat somebody who came to fight and win?
Did you ever consider that these guys he has taken out were TRYING to give him a fight, but his size and left hand PREVENTED them from being effective in their attempts?
Ever consider that?
pudding
01-03-2008, 10:40 PM
Did you ever consider that these guys he has taken out were TRYING to give him a fight, but his size and left hand PREVENTED them from being effective in their attempts?
Ever consider that?
No, I did not consider that. Chris Byrd, for example, did not just stand in front of Jameel McCline and get hit. He made an effort to beat McCline and hit him at will. All he did against Klitschko is become another human punching bag.
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