View Full Version : Gary Lockett how close is he to a title shot?
Vincent Gottschalk
12-27-2007, 08:03 PM
Is he in line for a title shot with Pavlik this year? or will have to have a box off vs with say a John Duddy or Sebastian Zbik to get one?:huh
Big Ears
12-27-2007, 08:31 PM
Is he in line for a title shot with Pavlik this year? or will have to have a box off vs with say a John Duddy or Sebastian Zbik to get one?:huh
Whenever Pavlik vacates(I'm not sure even ****** has enough sway with the WBO to strip a name like Pavlik) by which time Duddy will have already fought Pavlik so he won't be ranked in the top 2/3 .
I'd guess it would then be Lockett v Zbik in Wales(probably on a Maccarinelli undercard) for the vacant WBO title .
scurlaruntings
12-27-2007, 09:08 PM
Its fare to say Gary would get carried out on a stretcher.I like Gary his a good domestic fighter but his nothing more than that.If he gets put in the ring with Pavlik he could get hurt bad.
Nemesis
12-27-2007, 09:10 PM
Whenever Pavlik vacates(I'm not sure even ****** has enough sway with the WBO to strip a name like Pavlik) by which time Duddy will have already fought Pavlik so he won't be ranked in the top 2/3 .
I'd guess it would then be Lockett v Zbik in Wales(probably on a Maccarinelli undercard) for the vacant WBO title .
if lockett wins a world title, then the boxing world will have seriously gone mad
Max Molyneux
12-27-2007, 09:10 PM
Pavlik Isn't the best Middleweight out there though, his defence Is poor and was down to Taylor who was an awful champion.
Gary's got some good accuracy In the left hook and straight right.
scurlaruntings
12-27-2007, 09:10 PM
Anything is possible when you go the WBO (Frank ******) route.
Max Molyneux
12-27-2007, 09:11 PM
****** could take the WBA route too.:huh
scurlaruntings
12-27-2007, 09:11 PM
Pavlik Isn't the best Middleweight out there though, his defence Is poor and was down to Taylor who was an awful champion.
Gary's got some good accuracy In the left hook and straight right.Yeah but Gary is slow as molasses and isnt technically gifted nor proficient.His just a good steady box puncher and nothing more.
scurlaruntings
12-27-2007, 09:12 PM
****** could take the WBA route too.:huhYeah right:roll: Whens the last time ****** has let his fighter go any other title route? He favors the WBU and the WBO only as there champs are historically always weaker.As for the WBU we dont even need to explain that one.
Max Molyneux
12-27-2007, 09:15 PM
Yeah right:roll: Whens the last time ****** has let his fighter go any other title route? He favors the WBU and the WBO only as there champs are historically always weaker.As for the WBU we dont even need to explain that one.
Rees went for the WBA and Hatton for the IBF.
Big Ears
12-27-2007, 09:20 PM
Pavlik Isn't the best Middleweight out there though, his defence Is poor and was down to Taylor who was an awful champion.
Gary's got some good accuracy In the left hook and straight right.
Max I just don't get your love for all Sports Network fighters .
I'm not sure Lockett is even European level(although he possibly could ko the chinny Sylvester) never mind World . Infact I'm not sure Lockett even beats Elcock .
Vincent Gottschalk
12-27-2007, 10:32 PM
The WBO will seem like fools if they Strip Pavlik to give the title to a Lockett vs Zbik winner and I don't see Pavlik giving up the WBO title so I get feeling the WBO might give pass to Pavlik fighting Lockett in 2008. I really feel that Lockett should have to fight a other contender in a box off even if it's Zbik to get a shot at Pavlik. My hope is for Pavlik to fight 4 times in 2008 I would like him to fight Taylor,Duddy,Abraham and Winky in 2008 but that forth fight might be Lockett and not Winky. I really don't know how long Pavlik will stay at Middle, Arum seems to want him too stay there for a while before moving up.:hi:
lockets ranking even in a very weak 160 division is unjust, his only chance is against sturm who will outbox lockett but is very vunerable at the moment and not boxing well.
no chance v abraham or pavlik.
on a side note pavlik v taylor rematch taking place at super middle in a non title fight is devalueing the middleweight title history.
if taylor cannot make 160 then fuck him and rematch clause should be torn up.
that fight 100% IMO should take place at middleweight.
achillesthegreat
12-28-2007, 05:26 AM
Its fare to say Gary would get carried out on a stretcher.I like Gary his a good domestic fighter but his nothing more than that.If he gets put in the ring with Pavlik he could get hurt bad.
I second this.
brown bomber
12-28-2007, 05:44 AM
Pavlik is a frightening puncher thats all..... he's very, very beateble. Great fun to watch and exactly what the middleweight division needed after years of 'boredem' but i'd give Duddy or Lockett a fair shot with him. His defence is horrendous and his punches wide and telegraphed- all he has is guts and power but everyone seems to think he's some monster. If Taylor had of had better finishing skills he'd still be champ but thankfully he hasn't and we have a fun to watch and very beateble new champion.
brown bomber
12-28-2007, 05:45 AM
on a side note pavlik v taylor rematch taking place at super middle in a non title fight is devalueing the middleweight title history.
if taylor cannot make 160 then fuck him and rematch clause should be torn up.
that fight 100% IMO should take place at middleweight.:good spot on sean i agree.
robpalmer135
12-28-2007, 05:49 AM
Pavlik is easialy the most over rated boxer in the world right now. still he would beat Lockett to a pulp but Lockett does have World Class Power, Pavlik has Cruiserweight World Class Power!
Claypole
12-28-2007, 06:18 AM
Pavlik is a frightening puncher thats all..... he's very, very beateble.Gary Lockett is slow, and a bit too easy to hit which doesn't bode too well. As for Pavlik being "very, very beatable", nobody's managed it yet, and he is the top middleweight in the world. I would say he is very hard indeed to beat.
Sounds to me like somebody's engineering an easy fight for Pavlik, and a decent payday for Lockett. I can't see this fight happening though.
T.C.W
12-28-2007, 06:34 AM
HBO will not pay Kelly 7 number pay day to fight this guy, he needs a top fighter at 160 to even get a chance of getting into the ring with Kelly.
robpalmer135
12-28-2007, 06:57 AM
yeh Lockett will get a shot when Pavlik vacates. When he goes up with Taylor, the M/W could be the weakest its ever been!
scurlaruntings
12-28-2007, 07:13 AM
Pavlik is a frightening puncher thats all..... he's very, very beateble. Great fun to watch and exactly what the middleweight division needed after years of 'boredem' but i'd give Duddy or Lockett a fair shot with him. His defence is horrendous and his punches wide and telegraphed- all he has is guts and power but everyone seems to think he's some monster. If Taylor had of had better finishing skills he'd still be champ but thankfully he hasn't and we have a fun to watch and very beateble new champion.Agreed but class ALWAYS shows.Lockett hasnt mixed in any class remotely close to Pavlik.Neither Duddy nor Lockett would stand a chance but it would make for an entertaining affair as both guys can punch.
scurlaruntings
12-28-2007, 07:14 AM
Rees went for the WBA and Hatton for the IBF.Thats because Frank signed M`baye and M`baye won the vacant WBA belt.As for Hatton he went for the number 1 at 140.The belt had littel to do with it.Either way he relinquished it not long after leaving ******.
achillesthegreat
12-28-2007, 07:23 AM
Rees went for the WBA and Hatton for the IBF.
It's all politics.
M'Baye was signed cos he was high with the WBA already and ****** wanted to use M'Baye to pressure Hatton.
Rees fought M'Baye cos he was with ****** and ****** can't lose in that match up.
Hatton went for the IBF cos there was nothing left and he finally began to put pressure on ******. He went for the WBO but Pinto pulled out sick and then Cotto jumped in to fight for the belt. ****** doesn't have the power to push Cotto/Arum. Hatton then went for WBA Harris but Harris pulled out so he had to fight for the IBF or Hatton would leave ******. As it was, Hatton left anyway.
WBO is certainly ******s preference and thats where he has power. I think he has some power with the WBA. Not too sure about IBF and WBC.
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