Green or Griffin?

[Achilles]

A real test for Green at light heavy! Who's your pick?

[ashley]

Green will win by late TKO....Griffin aint impressed me that much.

[shiner]

Not a lot seen or known about Griffin so it is a dangerous one for him. If he's not on his game could be in for a shock but if he's on his game it should be a solid test and good warm up for hopefully bigger things toward the end of the year!

[BoppaZoo]

Greens jab at 175 is frightning.
Griffin is going to eat it all night and by the 8th do something stupid Green will catch him and the fight will be over.

Green by TKO 10

[stuistylee]

tell me if im wrong but griffins got good fighters on his resume...he jst lost 2 em thats all...won some..danny ko4/5 griff

[teke]

Greens got a good jab but fuck his last couple of fights he was also eating his fair few of jabs himself.

[percy davo]

Green inside 5 because what I have seen of Griffin he has big loping haymakers leaving him open for a nice one straight down the middle.
And thats how it is going to happen.

[Marcus]

At LHW its all bullshit.All these retards who say he fights better at LHW are dreaming.
Put simply.....since moving to LHW he has fought easier opponents.
Remember guys he was slaughtering bums in SMW the same way he is at LHW.
He only has trouble with the so called "weight" when he meets guys who can fight,like mundine/beyer etc.Its a great excuse.
No way a guy like green finds out after 20 or so fights that he is at the wrong weight.
Imagine mundine saying he can beat kessler at middleweight as SMW is not his ideal weight.
Get the general idea.Greens jab has always been there with his k.o power,just that the bums he fights get hit and the good ones dont.
Maybe next time he gets beaten he will say Heavyweights his ideal weight.

He cant make SMW anymore man, he never said it was a excuss, your just showing more reasons that your a mundine nuthugger.

We know Mundine beat Green fair and square and most would say he Mundine still beats green at LH.

[Big Red Meat Axe]

At LHW its all bullshit.All these retards who say he fights better at LHW are dreaming.
Put simply.....since moving to LHW he has fought easier opponents.
Remember guys he was slaughtering bums in SMW the same way he is at LHW.
He only has trouble with the so called "weight" when he meets guys who can fight,like mundine/beyer etc.Its a great excuse.
No way a guy like green finds out after 20 or so fights that he is at the wrong weight.
Imagine mundine saying he can beat kessler at middleweight as SMW is not his ideal weight.
Get the general idea.Greens jab has always been there with his k.o power,just that the bums he fights get hit and the good ones dont.
Maybe next time he gets beaten he will say Heavyweights his ideal weight.

You started off ok with your latest screen name in defending Mundine but you let yourself down by jumping on Green.

[Kegsy]

Green by KO round 6.:deal

[Big Red Meat Axe]

I've never seen Griffin, how is it that everyone else has managed to get a look at him?

[shiner]

Forster and Teke you are both fkn cok smokers! Whe you actually reach puberty and your balls drop you will realise that weight naturally comes on.

First of all, I doubt you would know anything about any sport but have a look at AFL footballers in their early 20's ato pics if them playing in the ealy 30's. There is no comparison in body shape or size. Unless you can add something half reasonable go continue licking some black guys balls.

Secondly, Griffin would smash any of those pathetic bums Mundine has fought.

Thirdly, Green doesn't say he is p4p the best in the world and not even have a real world title and still fight bums.

Do you want me to carry on.....

[pecks]

Forster and Teke you are both fkn cok smokers! Whe you actually reach puberty and your balls drop you will realise that weight naturally comes on.

First of all, I doubt you would know anything about any sport but have a look at AFL footballers in their early 20's ato pics if them playing in the ealy 30's. There is no comparison in body shape or size. Unless you can add something half reasonable go continue licking some black guys balls.

Secondly, Griffin would smash any of those pathetic bums Mundine has fought.

Thirdly, Green doesn't say he is p4p the best in the world and not even have a real world title and still fight bums.

Do you want me to carry on.....Noone wants to look at AFL footballers.

Anyway, regarding the Green weight talk... Green hasn't actually said he can't make 168, he's just said that he's more suited and more comfortable at 175.

[Marcus]

Marcus please explain to me why after all these years he cant make the weight anymore.Kessler,siaca and andrade are all bigger and make the weight.Why do you think it took him 20 fights to realise it.
I'll tell you why...Beacuse he smashed every bum that was put before him,but couldnt match it with proper fighters.
It aint the weight,its the skill factor.He is to stiff and robotic regardless of the weight.
He needs to be quicker as well and extra weight wont help that either.

He won a fight at SMW and was so dehydrated after the win he thought he has lost!!!!

He weighed in for the Mundine fight @ 3% body weight.

He has a large torso mate. Bigger than Kessler and Siaca, plus he is older.

How old are you? whats your walk around weight? have you ever cut weight or tried to slim down past your comfort weight? I have and its fuckin hard!!

[Marcus]

Noone wants to look at AFL footballers.

Anyway, regarding the Green weight talk... Green hasn't actually said he can't make 168, he's just said that he's more suited and more comfortable at 175.


yeah mate he has stated he cant make the weight anymore, said it just hurts him too much and makes him feel weak.

[pecks]

yeah mate he has stated he cant make the weight anymore, said it just hurts him too much and makes him feel weak. also stated (in the last 6 months) that if a good offer awaited him at 168 he would take it no problem, and making the weight wouldn't be a problem.

It's not the first time theres been inconsistencies in Green's stories. :yep

[Marcus]

also stated (in the last 6 months) that if a good offer awaited him at 168 he would take it no problem, and making the weight wouldn't be a problem.

It's not the first time theres been inconsistencies in Green's stories. :yep


shit....i didnt read that story :good

[IrnBruMan]

re: the Green wight issue - I have to say he looked very underweight in both the Beyer rematch and the Mundine fight.

He was pale and looked severely underweight for Beyer 2 - from what I remember he actually weighed in well under 168 for that fight (BOXREC shows he weighed in at 166lbs).

And I just rememebr how huge Green's head looked comapred to his body at the weigh in for the Mundine fight - when he took off that flak jacket he looked emaciated.

He looks a lot healthier at 176 IMO.

[Kegsy]

He won a fight at SMW and was so dehydrated after the win he thought he has lost!!!!

He weighed in for the Mundine fight @ 3% body weight.

He has a large torso mate. Bigger than Kessler and Siaca, plus he is older.

How old are you? whats your walk around weight? have you ever cut weight or tried to slim down past your comfort weight? I have and its fuckin hard!! Yeah Green did have only 3% body fat.
With a such a little amount of body fat, your body obviously does not function as well as it should, thus leading to massive dehydration & exhaustion.

[sambo1987]

And I just rememebr how huge Green's head looked comapred to his body at the weigh in for the Mundine fight - when he took off that flak jacket he looked emaciated.

I remeber thinking exactly the same thing. Looks much healthier at LHW imo.

[Marcus]

The only reason green looks pale and sick at weigh ins is because he is whiter than casper.No one looks good when there skin is snow white.
Mundine looks awsome when he weighs in because his natural colouring highlights his muscles better.But if mundine was snow white,he wouldnt look good as well.................Greeny go get a tan.


mmmmm Mundines nice brown muscles .................YOU FAG !!

look at my avatar mate!!!! one ugly dude!!! but i wanna see him box, not pull myself over his weigh-ins :-(

[sambo1987]

I've never seen Griffin, how is it that everyone else has managed to get a look at him?

He has some fights on his website
[Only registered and activated users can see links]

[MSTR]

mmmmm Mundines nice brown muscles .................YOU FAG !!

look at my avatar mate!!!! one ugly dude!!! but i wanna see him box, not pull myself over his weigh-ins :-(
HAHAHA.... ROFL.

[Dr Gonzo]

mmmmm Mundines nice brown muscles .................YOU FAG !!

look at my avatar mate!!!! one ugly dude!!! but i wanna see him box, not pull myself over his weigh-ins :-(

happy someone said it - the guy is a donut puncher for sure

[WhataRock]

I havent seen much of Griffin but from the limited footage I have seen I can say that he appears average.

He is average at the way he fights and Green is above average at the way he fights. But I reckon the way Griffin approaches it will give Green more trouble than Green's style will give Griffin, at the start anyway.

Ill stress I havent seen to much of him, so Im going out on a limb here but I reckon it will take some time for Green to catch him.

On paper at this stage anyway it looks a sterner test then Siaca.
For a couple of reasons
*Siaca was a big supermiddle but he was fit when he made that weight. When he fought at 175 he was mostly unfit and underdone. Otis is a career ltheavy.
*Siaca is past it, way past it. Griffo is 29 and has only been pro for 3 years.


Of course against a guy like Green a weak chin gets found out pretty fast and from what Ive seen he is no Mundine, nor is he as schooled as Beyer. And thats the main unknown it this fight.
I mean you look at Nieves' record and you logically assume that he does not have a world class chin, Team Mundine certainly assumed that.
But when it came down to it, he had a pretty solid one.
Griffin might be a Jake Lamotta or he might be a Wlad, not sure on that one. But I reckon someone knows, as Griffin certainly has had a little exposure.

Should be a good fight to gauge where Greeny is at, damn shame about the Kickett-Elomar fight though, hopefully they find a decent replacement. If anything someone with a good beard to showcase Kickett for the full 10.

[EelsRule]

Notice Oztriker has shown no interest in this thread because it has no mention of a certain individual who consumes all of Oz's time.
Anyway, Green will beat up all c grade fighters, its the fighters with skill that he goes to puddy over.

[shanemfr]

Well lets help him.
And the winner ............and still the super middleweight champion of the world
Anthony The Man Mundine........
It should be noted that sounds better when rodney O says it.
So Mr Facts is still pumping Mundine as a world champ, didn't you say you were a fan of boxing :lol: ...lamer

[EelsRule]

Green definatley looks better at LH physically. But his weight was only mentioned as an excuss after Mundine beat shit out of him. We really heard nothing of it till then. Actually most of the nut cases on here now using it as an excuss were picking a KO victory to Green. Good to have a fall back when Mundine is involved.
Green fought all his career at SM, but when he failed miserably in his career defining fight we suddenly heard, actually thats not his weight division. Weird.
Green is not doing anything at LH he didnt already do at SM, beating c graders. Actually one thing I agree with Oztriker on is that Green really isnt an impressive victory for Mundine. It was a no brainer, except for the Green huggers.

[shiner]

Okay Eeels you uninformed dickhead. It really isn't that hard to check the facts, but I suppose for someone of your intelligence it is!!
- Greens first 7 fights, only 5 at super middle
- from then all bar one of his fights were at light heavy if a title wasn't on the line
- ie. all the rest of super middle fights were for titles bar one
- weight was never used as an excuse against Mundine
- read the press after Beyer II, again it wasn't an excuse but was mentioned as a concern

Go back to smoking Choc!

[EelsRule]

are there any other Mundine bashers want to support shiner here on this point. He has gone out pretty hard and stands to look some idiot here. I stand to be corrected because I havent followed Greens career at all as I rate him more a carpenter than boxer...but anyone else want to suggest Green fought predominantly as a LH after his 7th fight, as shiner seems to be saying. You Green hugers going to stay strong on this or leave shiner out to dry.
I'll go check Greens website if it still exists and has been updated since his career defining fight. I'll be back...

[shanemfr]

He has fought 10 times above 168lbs in his career, and that started from his 4th pro fight, i'm pretty sure he spent just about all his AM career at L/H.

[SOULS 04]

yeh i remember at least a couple of LH fights but the main point is who cares.

why the f**k does this have to be about mundine again!!! i hate the fact green lost to him but myself and most other green fans and green himself never made any excuses for the loss and said mundine was the better man.

green never said weight was an excuse. i reckon if not for the mundine fight green would have just stayed lh for alot lonr but as never gonna giv up that pay day.

[fatballer_10]

I think Green will be a little too powerful and too polished. I think he will win it in 9 rounds by TKO.

[EelsRule]

I agree with you Souls, I like to degrade Green on his own merits, or lack there of, without involving Mundine. Frankly I am a bit tired of Mundine threads myself. But dont be surprised that Mundine fans come into this thread looking to insult Green as we are being thrashed in other threads. I mean have a look at who is creating all the Mundine threads, it aint the Mundine fans. Shiner has gone quiet.

[shiner]

not quiet, just dissappointed at myself for arguing with simples. green did a trade as a carpenter eels, but me feels the only tools he will pick up again will be to make a box big enough to store his millions!!! c,mon mate , there must be a reason why u dislike someone who generally keeps to himself.or are you just green with envy over his success. yes thats right slippery eels,his success. a wbc world title belt sitting at home, completely set for life, being second highest aussie born earner in the history of the sport, and the respect of millions.ha, not bad for a robotic bum!!!

[EelsRule]

you gonna back up your post of 10.58 AM Shiner, or did you go hard with not much?
I got no big problem with Green. He had a big mouth about Mundine for years and his personal insults towards Mundine (although probably inspired by his thief mate Fenech) were pretty rough. I dont mind this even, but he didnt back them up. All the local rednecks hung their hopes on Green.
Its this simple, all you Mundine haters are usually Green fans and everything you say about Mundine can be said about Green cept Green also got his arse smacked by Mundine and Mundine has a future.
I dont deny some personal dislike for Green, his conduct in Perth when Mundine was over there was pretty much racist and thuggish, he associates with criminals...but its all just part of keeping it all level.

[shanemfr]

I, I like to degrade Green on his own merits, .
As most Mundine nuthuggers do, since they think boxing revolves around Mundine and is arch rival Green, which was what almost 2 years ago.

[EelsRule]

Nah, it still applies Shane. First there is talk of a rematch and if it eventuates they'll be plenty resorting to their old delusions about Greens ability, especially now that he is at his "correct weight". Secondly, those that hate Mundine created an idol of Green as the anti Mundine and they have a soft spot for Green still. I just like going after the soft spot in retaliation.

[left jab danny]

you gonna back up your post of 10.58 AM Shiner, or did you go hard with not much?
I got no big problem with Green. He had a big mouth about Mundine for years and his personal insults towards Mundine (although probably inspired by his thief mate Fenech) were pretty rough. I dont mind this even, but he didnt back them up. All the local rednecks hung their hopes on Green.
Its this simple, all you Mundine haters are usually Green fans and everything you say about Mundine can be said about Green cept Green also got his arse smacked by Mundine and Mundine has a future.
I dont deny some personal dislike for Green, his conduct in Perth when Mundine was over there was pretty much racist and thuggish, he associates with criminals...but its all just part of keeping it all level.

FFS give it a rest about danny associating with criminals
Mundines manager has served time ask him yourself he openly admits it:patsch not that i give a sh!t he did the crime he served his time good on him but it's a bit rich when f@gs like yourself start crying about dannys consorting with criminals!
why don't u go back to your room crank up chocs rap album and f@ck one of the life size blow up mundine effigy dolls you have:hi:
"oh choc your the man yesss"

[EelsRule]

left jab...there is heaps of stuff I dont like about Mundine. Here is a list
1. I kind of meet his manager one time and he is a shmuck. I dont like his manager.
2. His religion stinks...
3. His "music" is putrid.
Danny hung with Fenech for ages and was best mates with him. Fenech is all but a convicted crim, at least as my understanding goes. Thats all I am saying Left Jabadab.

[shiner]

eels, what did green do in perth that was racist and thuggish???
he asked the crowd, who was predominantly his fans, who wants to see mundine get knocked out??? he was simply having a bit of fun at his upcoming opponents expense, and being smart by creating more exposure and hype. hype eels, is generally what makes big money in big fights.your hero is the master of hyping a fight.what drug did u consume to suggest what green said or did was racist. when did he say a racist or personal comment about mundines race or religion. you are a bloody antagonist eels, creating anger with unsubstantiated comments that have no weight. then green walks in before mundines fight starts with his song playing. once again, pure hype, and beat mundine at his own game. u wanna talk lack of respect, how bout mundine dissing green and perth in general on national tv, so it was game on in the hype stakes. or couldnt you handle your hero copping sum of his own medicine. when the f... did you hear danny green tell the crowd to throw shit at mundine, or incite ant kind of crowd violence towards him at all???????? when the cameras panned to green when idiots threw a few glasses, he looked shocked and unimpressed, and was actually shaking his head in disbelief. one idiot lady from a boxing magazine said she was appalled at greens smiling at what went on!!! what a blind maggot. what was she watching, bloody fool.green goes a far as calling a presser condemning those who were out of order, said those kind of crew are not welcome at his fights and asked for calm.yeah banana p'eels, real thuggish behaviour! as for the crims, some bikies were sitting behind him at a table, and they congratulated him and shook hands. like he has control over who goes to his fights you knob, or who comes up to shake his hand. what if alex vella came over to shake your hand p'eels, u gonna diss him???does he associate with criminals p'eels??? i know his mates, and none are crims.the guy is a regular dude.u are allowed your opinions, but wake up before posting.

[shiner]

oh, i forgot. danny also f...ed off the watch thief.of course he spent time around fenech, he bloody trained him. as far as socially, he may have attended a sport or charity function together, but it ends there.no association socially.

[EelsRule]

leaving the racist side of things out of it for now, this is how it happened. Green said "...he has insulted us all, lets show this guy what we think off him..."
When the fight ended bottels were thrown into the ring and at Mundine as he was escorted out. Green very much was shmirking at this. I've got it on tape, as do I suspect you. After the fight Green supported his crowd.
He said "what other sportsman in Australia would get this treatment?, he brought it on himself"
This was throughout the papers.
Green realised how bad this looked and withdraw it quick smart, the next day distancing himself from what happened.

[shanemfr]

leaving the racist side of things out of it for now, this is how it happened. Green said "...he has insulted us all, lets show this guy what we think off him..."
When the fight ended bottels were thrown into the ring and at Mundine as he was escorted out. Green very much was shmirking at this. I've got it on tape, as do I suspect you. After the fight Green supported his crowd.
He said "what other sportsman in Australia would get this treatment?, he brought it on himself"
This was throughout the papers.
Green realised how bad this looked and withdraw it quick smart, the next day distancing himself from what happened.
clueless cunt get off my internet.

[*BOX_FAN*]

I'm picking Green to win. If he wins what will be next ? Any title shot :huh ? I think he has the biggest chance against Clinton Woods. This guy has bad defense and Green can hit pretty hard :yep

[teke]

I'm picking Green to win. If he wins what will be next ? Any title shot :huh ? I think he has the biggest chance against Clinton Woods. This guy has bad defense and Green can hit pretty hard :yepJohnson tee'd off on Woods all night long and didnt do too much noticeable damage in their 3rd fight. I dont think Greens hits that much harder than him if at all. Green has sharper straighter punches though.