Manny Steward: Cotto should be p4p best fighter

[YOUNG*LORD]

Por Jorge L. Pérez / [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Aunque el mundo en general parece pensar que Floyd Mayweather, Jr. es el mejor boxeador ‘libra por libra’ de la actualidad, hay una figura de alto relieve que no piensa igual.
“Para mí, sin lugar a dudas, Miguel Cotto es el mejor peleador del mundo en estos momentos”, dijo ayer el legendario entrenador y manejador Emanuel Steward.
“¿Qué debe estar por encima de Mayweather? Claro que sí”, continuó, desde su residencia en Detroit, el fundador del igualmente legendario gimnasio Kronk, de la llamada ‘ciudad motorizada’.

‘‘Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”.
Emanuel Steward
“Admito que soy un fanático suyo y que he visto muchas de sus peleas”, dijo Steward, miembro del Salón de la Fama del Boxeo Internacional y comentarista de HBO, entre otras cosas.
“Pero lo que más me gusta de él es que ha peleado con todo el mundo: cuando era campeón junior welter, peleó con los mejores junior welters del momento, y ahora, como campeón welter, ha peleado también con los mejores de ese peso”, continuó.
“Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”, dijo. “Nunca quiso pelear con Shane Mosley, por ejemplo, mientras que, en las 147 libras, Miguel ya le ha ganado a Mosley y a Zab Judah”.
“Y en las 140”, continuó disertando, “le ganó a Paul Malignaggi, quien es un excelente boxeador y es campeón mundial hoy en día... a Ricardo Torres, que también es campeón”.

quick translation: I consider Miguel Cotto the best p4p fighter, witrhout a doubt. When Cotto was at 140, he fought the best...Mayweather was there too, but didn't fight the best. He never wanted to fight Mosley. Miguel at 147 beat Mosley and Judah...at 140 he fought Malignaggi, who's an excellent boxer and current world Champion...Ricardo Torres who is also a current world Champ.:yep

Come on Floyd boys...let's hear it.

[MJRJJ23]

:nut :lol: :roll: :patsch :-( :blood :verysad :bart :fire :?

[pit]

Por Jorge L. Pérez / [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Aunque el mundo en general parece pensar que Floyd Mayweather, Jr. es el mejor boxeador ‘libra por libra’ de la actualidad, hay una figura de alto relieve que no piensa igual.
“Para mí, sin lugar a dudas, Miguel Cotto es el mejor peleador del mundo en estos momentos”, dijo ayer el legendario entrenador y manejador Emanuel Steward.
“¿Qué debe estar por encima de Mayweather? Claro que sí”, continuó, desde su residencia en Detroit, el fundador del igualmente legendario gimnasio Kronk, de la llamada ‘ciudad motorizada’.

‘‘Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”.
Emanuel Steward



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28 diciembre 2007 05:01PM| jlgr58 ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Pienso que según Cotto ya le ganó a Mosley y (bién 'ganao') y anterior a eso Mosley le había gana- do a de La Hoya [2 x], la lógica te dice q. Cotto se gana a De La Hoya. Se lo gana hasta en su peor noche. Cotto en cada pelea va mejorando y todavía hay cabida para mejorar un poco más, o sea q. todavía no ha llegado a su "peak", pero se está acercando. Cuando alcance el máximo de sus habilidades el único q. lo va a poder derrotar es él a sí mismo si se le van los sumos a la cabeza. Mi vaticinio por si se cuaja su pelea con D.L.H. (q. a todas luces es la q. le conviene) es q. va a sacar a D.L.H. de boxeador propinándole una pela peor q. la q. Terry Norris le propinó a Sugar Ray Leonard para retirarlo del boxeo.
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“Admito que soy un fanático suyo y que he visto muchas de sus peleas”, dijo Steward, miembro del Salón de la Fama del Boxeo Internacional y comentarista de HBO, entre otras cosas.
“Pero lo que más me gusta de él es que ha peleado con todo el mundo: cuando era campeón junior welter, peleó con los mejores junior welters del momento, y ahora, como campeón welter, ha peleado también con los mejores de ese peso”, continuó.
“Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”, dijo. “Nunca quiso pelear con Shane Mosley, por ejemplo, mientras que, en las 147 libras, Miguel ya le ha ganado a Mosley y a Zab Judah”.
“Y en las 140”, continuó disertando, “le ganó a Paul Malignaggi, quien es un excelente boxeador y es campeón mundial hoy en día... a Ricardo Torres, que también es campeón”.

quick translation: I consider Miguel Cotto the best p4p fighter, witrhout a doubt. When Cotto was at 140, he fought the best...Mayweather was there too, but didn't fight the best. He never wanted to fight Mosley. Miguel at 147 beat Mosley and Judah...at 140 he fought Malignaggi, who's an excellent boxer and current world Champion...Ricardo Torres who is also a current world Champ.:yep

Come on Floyd boys...let's hear it.

yup but he not ...

He didn't fight floyd at 140 because he was not ready .. so how can that make him p4p??

beside stewart is kissing allot of Arum ass lately, its funny that he does not put his own fighter in the mix.

[eze]

How can he be the P4p best? Arum turned him Floyd down. And Hatton stated he wasn't ready for Floyd yet.


Cotto is not the #1 P4P fighter.

[eltorrente]

Manny hates Floyd, so no surprise there.

[KayEpps]

I agree - Manny tends to down play whatever Mayweather does.

He doesn't call him a Great Fighter - becuase he doesn't throw a lot of combination - so Manny considers him a Very Good Fighter. But when asked who's better than Mayweather at this point right now - he has no answer.

Manny is a Great Trainer and entitled to his opinion - but nothing he says is written in stone. If it was - Taylor would still be Undefeated.

[Relentless]

How can he be the P4p best? Arum turned him Floyd down. And Hatton stated he wasn't ready for Floyd yet.


Cotto is not the #1 P4P fighter.

why did floyd turn margo down but he waned to fight cotto and hatton?

wasn't margo more proven than cotto and hatton at the time?

[eze]

why did floyd turn margo down but he waned to fight cotto and hatton?

wasn't margo more proven than cotto and hatton at the time?


No. Margo had lost 4 times already.

[Relentless]

the question was, wasn't margo more proven?

also didn't he offer more money?

[YOUNG*LORD]

How can he be the P4p best? Arum turned him Floyd down. And Hatton stated he wasn't ready for Floyd yet.


Cotto is not the #1 P4P fighter.Floyd was the one claiming that he didn't want Cotto because he was too green...now he won't even mention Cotto's name without clinching his ass cheeks.

[eze]

the question was, wasn't margo more proven?

also didn't he offer more money?



He offered a WBogus Title and No PPV revenue compared to Baldomir 8 Mil + PPV Rev.



to Young.

He did call Cotto too green after he was turned down.

[eze]

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AND YOU ARE THE P4P BEST DICK SUCKER IN THE WORLD


I'm not the one who compared Gianluca Branco to Floyd Mayweather.

[brooklyn1550]

Cotto doesn't deserve to be called the best pound for pound fighter in the world, but he deserves to be top 4 or 5.

[eze]

HOW MANY FIGHTS HAD BALDO LST BEFORE HIS FIGHT AGAINST PBF?



9 times. But he hadn't lost in 8 years and 19 fights unlike Margo who lost to Santos.

[rreed23]

Not even close, he's got great power, nice pressure, but skillz wise, still has a way to go. Put him in with DLH or Floyd, he gets embarrassed

[eze]

And In The Red Corner With A Proffesional Record Of 100-0-0 He Is Consider The Best Dick Sucker By Gay Magazine.
The Reigning , Defending And Undefeated Champion Of The World!!
Eze "i Will Suck You Dry" Nutthugger!!!!



:rofl


You are calling me a nuthugger for saying Cotto isn't the P4P number 1 fighter and Floyd is.

Damn I guess nearly every poster and sports writer is a nut hugger.

[rreed23]

I'm not a Floyd fan, but to be honest, I'd have to sat Cotto fans are the new nuthuggers

[eze]

I'm not a Floyd fan, but to be honest, I'd have to sat Cotto fans are the new nuthuggers

Lol check this nuthuggers post out in a different thread.


pbf fought zab and the golden tranny(who has never won a big fight)


cotto beat mosley(better than de lahoya win) and beat zab(better than hatton win) people may think im crazy for saying than zab is better than hatton. but if both fight who would win?


i guess he is predictable like you say,but that only means he is even better everybody knows what he is going to do but everybody has failed to stop him.

cotto ud williams
COTTO TKO 9 MARGARITO
COTTO TKO 10 PBF
COTTO KO 6 ODLH
COTTO KO7 CINTRON
COTTO KO 5 HATTON
COTTO KO 7 CLOTTEY:bbb


:rofl:rofl:rofl

[eze]

AND THIS IS COMING FROM A "MAN" THAT SAYS THAT THE GOLDEN TRANNY WILL KO COTTO!!!:patsch


If DLH hit Cotto with his left hook, he could really rock Cotto..

Fuck Corley wobbled Cotto.

[eze]

CORLEY WOOBLED PBF TOO YOU STUPID



Show me a clip where Floyd was dancing like Cotto.

[rreed23]

Everyone who's not part of the Cotto beats Jesus of Nazareth cult can see that skills wise, it's a huge mismatch, and yes Oscar would destroy Cotto.

[rreed23]

Miguel Cotto Was Drained For Making 140. Answer Me This Why Pbf Needs Some Time Off All Of The Sudden?

The guy has been fighting since he was three, he's got 100 mil in the bank and 5 kids

[eze]

Miguel Cotto Was Drained For Making 140. Answer Me This Why Pbf Needs Some Time Off All Of The Sudden?


Oh now Cotto was drained :rofl but he fought there 4 MORE times after the Corley fight.


Why is Floyd taking time off?

Did you not see what Floyd has gone through with his body.


Floyd-Cotto needs to happen but Floyd deserves some time off to let his body heal. The Doctor even said if this continues he would need to retire soon.

BTW Wheres that clip of Floyd dancing around like Cotto after getting hit by Corley?

[Jersey Joe]

First, this is a slightly biased representation of who faced who. Mayweather can never be described as a ducker. Second, who you fight is not the only thing that matters for P4P. It's also how you perform, how comprehensively you beat your opponents. Floyd has just decisively beaten Hatton - a top 10 P4P fighter - not just winning, but winning by KO (Hatton has a good chin), and even outboxing Ricky on the inside, supposedly the Englishman's strong point.

Floyd has nothing to prove, he has beaten contenders and top dogs alike, he has moved up weights, he has an amazing record and really he has hardly ducked anyone. The only way he could do better would be to have an ATG in his weight category, and beat him; or to move up ludicrously in weight a la Sugar Ray Robinson going to light heavy, Fitzsimmons going to heavyweight, Duran going to middle etc.

So, all he has not done, is match the top 5 or 10 fighters P4P, but even then he is knocking on the door. To say that Cotto is close, let alone better, is just lunacy.

[DAGOBOY]

he had the opportunity to fight floyd at 140 and didnt so he did not fight the best. simple as that. and the current p4p champ has yet to be dethroned.

[DAGOBOY]

oh yeah and manny steward is floyds biggest hater.

[eze]

BULLSHIT!!! ALL OF THE SUDDEN PBF'S BODY WAS ALL FUCKED UP?

THIS IS IS PBF ONCE HE SAW COTTO :bolt


PBFs body has been fucked up. Did you not see the 24/7 episodes?

Let Cotto become a star and let PBF then lets have Floyd-Cotto end of 2008.

Then Cottos gets smashed you dissapear and make a new alias and Cotto always sucked and Floyd dodged Williams!


Where was Cotto at 140? Running away?


BTW WHERES that clip I said to find... still waiting..

[Caper]

Everyone who's not part of the Cotto beats Jesus of Nazareth cult can see that skills wise, it's a huge mismatch, and yes Oscar would destroy Cotto.

I agree Cotto should not be considered P4p number one....in my opinion he's top 5.

While I respect your opinion I also feel this statement is as false as it can get. DLH at this point in his career wants no part of an inside fight with Cotto we all saw that Cotto can box with the best and DLH has deprecitated in that department. I'm actually surprised at the fact that you mentioned in an earlier post that Cotto lacks in the skill department....he's actually one of the smartest well schooled fighters in the game today.

[pit]

the question was, wasn't margo more proven?

also didn't he offer more money?


Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

now that sheds some light on the bull shit that floyd was ducking margartio and cotto..

[Relentless]

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

now that sheds some light on the bull shit that floyd was ducking margartio and cotto..

source?

[badger6]

Everyone who's not part of the Cotto beats Jesus of Nazareth cult can see that skills wise, it's a huge mismatch, and yes Oscar would destroy Cotto.

The only thing Oscar is gonna destroy these days is himself. He's outta gas and there is no station in sight ???

[TFFP]

Por Jorge L. Pérez / [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Aunque el mundo en general parece pensar que Floyd Mayweather, Jr. es el mejor boxeador ‘libra por libra’ de la actualidad, hay una figura de alto relieve que no piensa igual.
“Para mí, sin lugar a dudas, Miguel Cotto es el mejor peleador del mundo en estos momentos”, dijo ayer el legendario entrenador y manejador Emanuel Steward.
“¿Qué debe estar por encima de Mayweather? Claro que sí”, continuó, desde su residencia en Detroit, el fundador del igualmente legendario gimnasio Kronk, de la llamada ‘ciudad motorizada’.

‘‘Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”.
Emanuel Steward
“Admito que soy un fanático suyo y que he visto muchas de sus peleas”, dijo Steward, miembro del Salón de la Fama del Boxeo Internacional y comentarista de HBO, entre otras cosas.
“Pero lo que más me gusta de él es que ha peleado con todo el mundo: cuando era campeón junior welter, peleó con los mejores junior welters del momento, y ahora, como campeón welter, ha peleado también con los mejores de ese peso”, continuó.
“Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”, dijo. “Nunca quiso pelear con Shane Mosley, por ejemplo, mientras que, en las 147 libras, Miguel ya le ha ganado a Mosley y a Zab Judah”.
“Y en las 140”, continuó disertando, “le ganó a Paul Malignaggi, quien es un excelente boxeador y es campeón mundial hoy en día... a Ricardo Torres, que también es campeón”.

quick translation: I consider Miguel Cotto the best p4p fighter, witrhout a doubt. When Cotto was at 140, he fought the best...Mayweather was there too, but didn't fight the best. He never wanted to fight Mosley. Miguel at 147 beat Mosley and Judah...at 140 he fought Malignaggi, who's an excellent boxer and current world Champion...Ricardo Torres who is also a current world Champ.:yep

Come on Floyd boys...let's hear it.
Say what?

[eze]

Im Tired Of Pbfand The Nutthugers! He Fought A Partime Fighter And A Jrww! He Needs Some Time Off To Heal Is Fucking Bullshit!!! If His Body So Fucked Up Why Didnt He Stayed Retired? Cotto Is Not A Superstar? He Wont Bring That Much Money? Make The Motherfucking Fight In Yankee Stadium And Every Single Boricua Is Going To Show Up!! Enough With The Fucking Excuses!!!


Wheres that clip man? Im waiting.

[YOUNG*LORD]

The guy has been fighting since he was three, he's got 100 mil in the bank and 5 kidsFIGHTING SINCE HE WAS 3?...now who's the nuthugger. :patsch

[YOUNG*LORD]

Wheres that clip man? Im waiting.PBF was rocked, everybody knows this, not to the extent of Cotto...but also you must understand that PBF was fighting in his natural weight class...Cotto was killing himself to make weight at 140. Look at the shot he recieved from Judah at 147...you going to tell me that shot wasn't harder than the Corley shot?

[Pimp C]

Por Jorge L. Pérez / [Only registered and activated users can see links] ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Aunque el mundo en general parece pensar que Floyd Mayweather, Jr. es el mejor boxeador ‘libra por libra’ de la actualidad, hay una figura de alto relieve que no piensa igual.
“Para mí, sin lugar a dudas, Miguel Cotto es el mejor peleador del mundo en estos momentos”, dijo ayer el legendario entrenador y manejador Emanuel Steward.
“¿Qué debe estar por encima de Mayweather? Claro que sí”, continuó, desde su residencia en Detroit, el fundador del igualmente legendario gimnasio Kronk, de la llamada ‘ciudad motorizada’.

‘‘Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”.
Emanuel Steward
“Admito que soy un fanático suyo y que he visto muchas de sus peleas”, dijo Steward, miembro del Salón de la Fama del Boxeo Internacional y comentarista de HBO, entre otras cosas.
“Pero lo que más me gusta de él es que ha peleado con todo el mundo: cuando era campeón junior welter, peleó con los mejores junior welters del momento, y ahora, como campeón welter, ha peleado también con los mejores de ese peso”, continuó.
“Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”, dijo. “Nunca quiso pelear con Shane Mosley, por ejemplo, mientras que, en las 147 libras, Miguel ya le ha ganado a Mosley y a Zab Judah”.
“Y en las 140”, continuó disertando, “le ganó a Paul Malignaggi, quien es un excelente boxeador y es campeón mundial hoy en día... a Ricardo Torres, que también es campeón”.

quick translation: I consider Miguel Cotto the best p4p fighter, witrhout a doubt. When Cotto was at 140, he fought the best...Mayweather was there too, but didn't fight the best. He never wanted to fight Mosley. Miguel at 147 beat Mosley and Judah...at 140 he fought Malignaggi, who's an excellent boxer and current world Champion...Ricardo Torres who is also a current world Champ.:yep

Come on Floyd boys...let's hear it.
Who gives a fuck? Manny is one of the biggest PBF haters out there. He has little credibilty on the issue listen to how biased he is during PBF's fights.:deal. Anyone that has Cotto the #1 P4P fighter is either a hater or has an agenda.

[eze]

PBF was rocked, everybody knows this, not to the extent of Cotto...but also you must understand that PBF was fighting in his natural weight class...Cotto was killing himself to make weight at 140. Look at the shot he recieved from Judah at 147...you going to tell me that shot wasn't harder than the Corley shot?


PBFs natural class is 135 not 140. And Floyd actually fought back and won the round, he was stunned/buzzed for a moment at best unlike Cotto who couldn't barely stand up after being hit by Corley.

[Relentless]

cotto also started out at 135 :deal

[eze]

cotto also started out at 135 :deal

I never said Floyd started there I said its his natural weight class.

If you want to get techincal Floyd started at 130. :deal


And Cotto started at 140, fighting once at 135 in his 4th fight, never fighting lower then that.

[Relentless]

I never said Floyd started there I said its his natural weight class.

If you want to get techincal Floyd started at 130. :deal


And Cotto started at 140, fighting once at 135 in his 4th fight, never fighting lower then that.

actually he fought there 3 or 4 times, so cotto is a natural 135lb'er right?

[Marc]

Cotto is not p4p#1, bottom line.

God knows how this even reached 4 pages.

[kg0208]

Cotto is not p4p#1, bottom line.

God knows how this even reached 4 pages.

:good

That is the bottom line. If Manny Steward thinks otherwise, good for him. He thinks alot of things, but they are certainly not always correct or even well founded.

[kg0208]

Floyd fans always have an excuse. wake the fuck-up already, Now everybody saying oh Manny
Steward hates Floyd thats why he is saying that. Icant wait to see
when Cotto, ktfo May-Puss, and see what you fools will say then.
fuckin NUTTHUGGERS!!!!!!!!:blurp lickey, lickey, lickey,:blurp Get off pbf nuts
already.....:blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp

Actually, Steward has always said negative things about Mayweather. If you are unaware of this, just say so. It's not something that is simply being brought up now.

[eze]

actually he fought there 3 or 4 times, so cotto is a natural 135lb'er right?


Cotto never made it below 137 besides that one fight. So no hes not a natural 135.

[Marc]

Floyd fans always have an excuse. wake the fuck-up already, Now everybody saying oh Manny
Steward hates Floyd thats why he is saying that. Icant wait to see
when Cotto, ktfo May-Puss, and see what you fools will say then.
fuckin NUTTHUGGERS!!!!!!!!:blurp lickey, lickey, lickey,:blurp Get off pbf nuts
already.....:blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp :blurp

Manny Steward and a some Pac fans seem to think PBF isn't the best. Even Dougie "I hate Fraud" Fischer has conceded the fight already.

Give it up, Floyd is universally recognized p4p#1 END OF DISCUSSION, whether you think Cotto beats him is irrelevant.

[eze]

Word
this dick-head eze, is always trying to flip the script and twist shit around. That bull-shit that Bob Arum said Cotto was still to green, that
was always Floyds excuse. Those words came out of his mouth, Not
Bob Arums...Get the facts right you NUT sniffer....:blurp M.R.

I never said Bob called Cotto too green. He did say decline Floyd to fight Cotto.



And how am I nut hugger? Cotto isn't P4P Number 1 Delwin tried to call me a nuthugger for saying that. Lmao.

[Illstate]

why did floyd turn margo down but he waned to fight cotto and hatton?

wasn't margo more proven than cotto and hatton at the time?Margarito is not now nor was he ever more proven than anyone mentioned in this thread.

[Marc]

Use logic didn't Cotto do well with JUdah?
And didn't judah for the first few rounds give pbf a hard time? Now
doesn't logic tell you that Cotto will do a lot better than Judah?
doesn't logic dictate that Cotto will WHUp your boys ASS?????:yep M.R.

Logic tells Cotto gets potshotted for 12 rounds.

[eze]

I dig you, word duke, All these Cotto haters, Deep down they know if thier boy grow some balls and get in the ring with Cotto he will be on his back looking at the lights above......oh and looking like this.:!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :!: :tired :tired :tired :tired :tired :tired :tired



Yes because Mayweathers been knocked off his feet like Cotto...

[kg0208]

Use logic didn't Cotto do well with JUdah?
And didn't judah for the first few rounds give pbf a hard time? Now
doesn't logic tell you that Cotto will do a lot better than Judah?
doesn't logic dictate that Cotto will WHUp your boys ASS?????:yep M.R.

Right....kinda like when Frazier beat Ali, then Foreman destroyed Frazier, then Foreman beat Ali...oh wait.

Or how Junior Jones beat Barrera twice, then Morales beat Jones, and the Morales won the trilogy against Barrera....oh wait.

Or how Vargas beat Wright, the Trinidad beat Vargas, and the Trinidad beat Wright....oh wait.

Come on, that logic never works in boxing. Styles are different and cause different outcomes.

[Symphenyceo]

Use logic didn't Cotto do well with JUdah?
And didn't judah for the first few rounds give pbf a hard time? Now
doesn't logic tell you that Cotto will do a lot better than Judah?
doesn't logic dictate that Cotto will WHUp your boys ASS?????:yep M.R.

yeah pbf struggled with judah the first 4 rds...so did cotto

and no logic doesnt tell us the since fighter A struugled with fighter B and C did well against fighter B that fighter C will beat fighter A

[eze]

you must be floyds bitch or something the doctor even said that if this continues he would need to retire soon.
you sound just like a bitch. Why dont you go ice floyds nut-sack,you
BBBBBBBBIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHH !!!!!!!!!! M.R.



So Im a bitch for quoting what a doctor said? :rofl



Lol Cotto ducked Floyd at 140 deal with it. :deal

[sambob]

This is 100% speculation because I don't know Steward or Mayweather..

But I know Floyd is from the same area that Kronk is sort of the center of in the boxing world. However, he obviously is not an Emanuel Steward fighter. Still, Floyd has often referenced they great trainers of Detroit who know lots of great old school things that Floyd does himself. Like using his shoulder for defense or yes I hate to say it, but Floyd's now infamous check left hook comment after the Hatton fight in his interview with Larry Martini-er I mean Merch

But anyway, I wonder if there isn't some kind of resentment on the part of Steward that Floyd didn't fight for Kronk, or maybe there is something between Steward and the elder Mayweather's, or the elder Mayweather's trainers.

Steward just always seems so down on Floyd.. he's even made some comments that just seem to make NO sense. He has several times referred to Floyd as just an amateur fighter (as in he fights like he's in the amateurs, just trying to land punches, not putting power behind his punches at all). And even when he has the best rounds of his career, like knocking down Corrales multiple times, or basically hitting Arturo Gatti with every punch he wants to, or other stuff like that, all Manny ever has to say is - "Good round for Floyd"

And in response to the "Why Baldomir instead of Margarito?" thing, is it really that confusing?

When Baldomir fought Floyd, he had just come off of two big victories. A stunning upset win to become the lineal welterweight champion, and then his first defense is a knockout! Admittedly it was against Arturo Gatti, who has literally been knocked out also by both Baldomir and Floyd's grandmother (long story, but I swear it happened, though I think the stoppage for Granny Mayweather WAS a bit premature, still!!), but it was still a good victory considering Baldomir wasn't a proven fighter.

Also Baldomir was a great story, the casual sports fan was able to get interested in him because of the whole Cinderella Man/Rags to Riches story associated with him.

Stylistically it was a more interesting matchup for the casual sports fan as well, Baldomir was just seen as a big guy, a big puncher, Mayweather was seen as the little guy, the boxer.

All of these things added up to PAY PER VIEW, and more exposure for Floyd. People say Floyd just fights for whichever fight pays him more, but theres more to it than that! Floyd fights for long term money as well.. He wants to become a mainstream sports star, a celebrity, etc etc, which he has done for the most part! Though Baldomir sort of back fired on him because it was a pretty boring fight, it was still the fight more likely (at the time) to do this.

Hell, to the casual sports fan, Margarito is still nothing but misspelled cocktail.

[eze]

The saddest thing about all this, Manny is going to quote every post and make a reply.

[eze]

TWO WORDS 4 YA" PROVE IT !!!:yep


How does it feel to be owned?

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Dumbass.

[Alo2006]

Cotto is not P4P #1 :nono Manny need to sit his hating ass down.

[eze]

Then God said let there be light. These Mother fuckers dont believe
Shit stinks..............BBBBEELLLIIIEEEEEVVVVVVVEEEEEE....IIIIIIITTTT!!
COTTO #1 VIVA EL BORIQUA....:bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb :bbb M.R.


Cotto struggling to make 140?

Why didn't Cotto move up after that fight instead of CONTINUE to fight there for a year and half and 4 more fights.

[eze]

TWO WORDS 4 YA" PROVE IT !!!:yep

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Dumbass.

Reposted so your dumbass could see.

[teke]

Sounds like Manny is angling to be Cottos trainer :yep

[eze]

OK,OK,OK, YOU ARE NOT A NUTTHUGGER. DO YOU FEEL BETTER? OK, BUT, YOU ARE A
PBF NUTTKISSER!!!!!!!!!! OK? :hey :hey :hey NOW SAY NITE,NITE, IT IS YOUR BED TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:good M.R.



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Dumbass.

[Symphenyceo]

How does it feel to be owned?

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Dumbass.



FUCKING OWNED

[Symphenyceo]

bump for manny

[eze]

you mean the sissy-shots pussy-boy Floyd throws!!!:tired

Keep ignoring my post you pussy.

[Symphenyceo]

Keep ignoring my post you pussy.



exactly

[Marc]

you mean the sissy-shots pussy-boy Floyd throws!!!:tired

The exact same sissy-shots that has every opponent he's faced baffled, yes.

[Ziggy Montana]

Steward's senile. :patsch

[eze]

all i read is that pbf is ducking margarito to fight a transvesty


Lol figures you ignore the truth but never bring any solid proof to the table.

[Ziggy Montana]

Antonio Margarito, outboxed by Joshua Clottey till the latter broke his hand; outworked by Paul Williams; big, strong and tough guy yet flat-footed and relatively slow and fairly easy to hit; resume includes one quasi-significant win in the last two years against Kermit Cintron otherwise two quickies against C-class fighters, one loss and a comeback decision against an amputated Clottey.

I like Margarito but I fail to see what some of his fans see in him.

[Circa]

margarito who???

these clowns as well as manny thinks that cotto P4P no 1? hahahahaha

theyre all dreaming... just wait floyd destroys cotto then these clowns disappear and make new troll aliases saying prettyboy is ducking paul williams. bullshit

[YOUNG*LORD]

Cotto struggling to make 140?

Why didn't Cotto move up after that fight instead of CONTINUE to fight there for a year and half and 4 more fights.if you knew anything about boxing at that time, the 140 division was the deepest of all the weight classes...and you know that's true. So why not 140. Yes, he dehydrated himself to stay there, but it was the place to be at the time. :deal

[eze]

if you knew anything about boxing at that time, the 140 division was the deepest of all the weight classes...and you know that's true. So why not 140. Yes, he dehydrated himself to stay there, but it was the place to be at the time. :deal


Yea cause Cotto fought the top fighters at 140..


Mayweather, Hatton... yup. dehydrate himself for what?

[YOUNG*LORD]

Yea cause Cotto fought the top fighters at 140..


Mayweather, Hatton... yup. dehydrate himself for what?Hatton and PBF felt they had bigger fish to fry...but you have to admit, he fought alot of high risk low reward guys. Many of them are now current World Champions or became World Champs after Cotto beat their asses. ...BTW who the fuck did PBF beat at 140...Bruseles, Gatti and Corley. Cotto beat Torres, Malignaggi, Corley, Bailey, Branco, N'Dou, Maussa, pinto and Abdullaev and beat them bad. Please don't compare what PBF record at 140 to Cotto. that would be just silly.

[JAM Killer]

Emanuel Steward really does not like floyd Mayweather, the same way he didn't like Roy Jones Jr. or Bernard Hopkins.

He allows his hate to make him say stupid ass shit like this.

[Relentless]

Yea cause Cotto fought the top fighters at 140..


Mayweather, Hatton... yup. dehydrate himself for what?

fighting at 140 was arums decision, arum even wanted cotto to go down to 135, cotto at 13 weighed 154.

[warrior85]

is this the same manny steward that said kermit cintron would beat everyone at 147 including cotto?hes a joker he said he could of trained either klitschko to beat lewis.

[pit]

Hatton and PBF felt they had bigger fish to fry...but you have to admit, he fought alot of high risk low reward guys. Many of them are now current World Champions or became World Champs after Cotto beat their asses. ...BTW who the fuck did PBF beat at 140...Bruseles, Gatti and Corley. Cotto beat Torres, Malignaggi, Corley, Bailey, Branco, N'Dou, Maussa, pinto and Abdullaev and beat them bad. Please don't compare what PBF record at 140 to Cotto. that would be just silly.

Even though cotto beat al those fighters, he still was not ready for Floyd at 140.

[Tito Time]

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Aunque el mundo en general parece pensar que Floyd Mayweather, Jr. es el mejor boxeador ‘libra por libra’ de la actualidad, hay una figura de alto relieve que no piensa igual.
“Para mí, sin lugar a dudas, Miguel Cotto es el mejor peleador del mundo en estos momentos”, dijo ayer el legendario entrenador y manejador Emanuel Steward.
“¿Qué debe estar por encima de Mayweather? Claro que sí”, continuó, desde su residencia en Detroit, el fundador del igualmente legendario gimnasio Kronk, de la llamada ‘ciudad motorizada’.

‘‘Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”.
Emanuel Steward
“Admito que soy un fanático suyo y que he visto muchas de sus peleas”, dijo Steward, miembro del Salón de la Fama del Boxeo Internacional y comentarista de HBO, entre otras cosas.
“Pero lo que más me gusta de él es que ha peleado con todo el mundo: cuando era campeón junior welter, peleó con los mejores junior welters del momento, y ahora, como campeón welter, ha peleado también con los mejores de ese peso”, continuó.
“Mayweather también ha peleado en esos pesos, pero no con los mejores”, dijo. “Nunca quiso pelear con Shane Mosley, por ejemplo, mientras que, en las 147 libras, Miguel ya le ha ganado a Mosley y a Zab Judah”.
“Y en las 140”, continuó disertando, “le ganó a Paul Malignaggi, quien es un excelente boxeador y es campeón mundial hoy en día... a Ricardo Torres, que también es campeón”.

quick translation: I consider Miguel Cotto the best p4p fighter, witrhout a doubt. When Cotto was at 140, he fought the best...Mayweather was there too, but didn't fight the best. He never wanted to fight Mosley. Miguel at 147 beat Mosley and Judah...at 140 he fought Malignaggi, who's an excellent boxer and current world Champion...Ricardo Torres who is also a current world Champ.:yep

Come on Floyd boys...let's hear it.

Why must you make use Cotto fans look like fools? Be realistic...

[Addie]

Not even close, he's got great power, nice pressure, but skillz wise, still has a way to go. Put him in with DLH or Floyd, he gets embarrassed

Cotto would beat De La Hoya in the same fashion as he did Mosley. Prime De La Hoya is a different story, but the De La Hoya of today wouldn't beat Cotto.

[eze]

Hatton and PBF felt they had bigger fish to fry...but you have to admit, he fought alot of high risk low reward guys. Many of them are now current World Champions or became World Champs after Cotto beat their asses. ...BTW who the fuck did PBF beat at 140...Bruseles, Gatti and Corley. Cotto beat Torres, Malignaggi, Corley, Bailey, Branco, N'Dou, Maussa, pinto and Abdullaev and beat them bad. Please don't compare what PBF record at 140 to Cotto. that would be just silly.



PBF moved up to go after the big fights. Cotto and Hatton the top guys of the division besides the semi retired Zoo.


Hatton wasen't ready and Arum turned Cotto down.

The only reason Floyd fought Brussles was a WBC eliminator for Gattis title since he couldn't get Cotto or Floyd.

The reason you can compare it is because Floyd got ducked at 140, how can you build a good resume when no one wants to fight you :deal

[eze]

fighting at 140 was arums decision, arum even wanted cotto to go down to 135, cotto at 13 weighed 154.


Proof or it never happened :lol:

[eze]

source?


Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.


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[eze]

what fuckin post
you are talking about? MR

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Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.




You said to prove it and I did and you keep ignoring it. :rofl

[Pimp C]

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Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.




You said to prove it and I did and you keep ignoring it. :rofl
Way to own this guy.:good :lol: :rofl :lol: You produce proof and he'll come back with spin...I love it.

[eze]

Way to own this guy.:good :lol: :rofl :lol: You produce proof and he'll come back with spin...I love it.


Ive posted that link to him I think 7 times now, and he always has responded, WHAT Link?


:rofl Im waiting for the spin!