View Full Version : Enzo is not that powerful!
robpalmer135
12-30-2007, 06:44 AM
Name a decent fighter he has knocked out???
Braithwaite was knocked out in 4 rounds by Jones and put down by Mormeck. Mormeck is a bigger puncher than Enzo!
nufc16
12-30-2007, 07:03 AM
the argie guy he knocked out was supposed to have had a good chin. mixed in heavyweight and never been ko'd before meeting enzo.
madpup
12-30-2007, 07:05 AM
Hard to say, he hasnt really had the level of competition to judge. Anyone can appear to be a monster puncher knocking out journeymen.
PrideOfWales
12-30-2007, 08:35 AM
Enzo is very heavy handed. There's not many that will stay standing when he lands flush. Especially someone with the suspect chin of Haye. Have no fears about Macca's power.
In fact, I'd make Enzo slight favourite for this fight.
Smazz20
12-30-2007, 08:44 AM
As Pride of Wales stated, Macca dosen't NEED to have huge KO power. He just needs to hit hard enough to damage Haye's chin, which seems very possible.
i judge what i see with my own eyes and it is obvious macrannelli has big power
he boxed conservativly v braithwaite .
where`as mormeck is a short cruiserweight who cannot afford to box the same way.
to give an example
tyson and lewis.
different styles because of different builds, but IMO lewis had more single punch power than tyson, just that tyson loaded up more because he never had lewis assetts.
Its plain to see Enzo has power. Especially enough to trouble Haye.
ApatheticLeader
12-30-2007, 09:25 AM
the argie guy he knocked out was supposed to have had a good chin. mixed in heavyweight and never been ko'd before meeting enzo.
Yup, Marcelo Fabian Dominguez has an absolutely brilliant chin, and I was genuinely shocked when Macca stopped him.
Max Molyneux
12-30-2007, 09:28 AM
the argie guy he knocked out was supposed to have had a good chin. mixed in heavyweight and never been ko'd before meeting enzo.
That argie was former WBC cruiser champ too and fought guys like Valuev.
I think Palmer posted about him meeting Haye once but he's over posting about anti Enzo still.
His power is slightly overrated
He's not in Haye's league in that respect
toffeejack
12-30-2007, 10:37 AM
Whether his power is overrated or not he definitely has the power to KO Haye and he will.
SevenSamurai
12-30-2007, 11:13 AM
His power is over-rated. I have never been impressed by his so called power, in any of his fights.
He will be beaten badly when he faces Haye, by a KO inside 8 rounds.
Cobbler
12-30-2007, 12:27 PM
Enzo's power is definately overrated, not least by himself.
After the Braithwaite fight he said something to the effect that he had hit Braithwaite with some great shots that would have crippled most opponents. Well, most of his opponents maybe, but this was Braithwaite who had been knocked out by Guillermo Jones two years previously and was shot to bits.
Dominguez is the best name on Enzo's stopage record, but most of his fights have been in South America and going 8 rounds with Valuev is hardly the achievement some are portraying.
Yet Enzo can say with an apparantly straight face that he hits harder than Haye? I'd be genuinely interested in his explanation in that case for how come 95% of Haye's wins came within the distance yet only 75% of Enzo's wins (against lower quality opposition for the most part) have done.
China_hand_Joe
12-30-2007, 01:10 PM
Enzo has massive natural power, it is less effective than Haye's however due to his inferior technique.
achillesthegreat
12-30-2007, 01:56 PM
If Enzo lands properly, he hurts you. The guys power is proven.
We know he can hit as hard as Mormeck and Mock so fear for Haye is valid.
a decent fighter he has knocked out....... dominick gunn and the former world ranked (according to enzo himself after the fight) undefeated mohammed azoui
nufc16
12-30-2007, 01:59 PM
I'd say haye has the more natural. enzo's loads up on pretty much every shot he throws, it's his strength but also the thing that makes him one dimensional compared to haye. hayes style isnt that of an out and out slugger/power puncher, so the fact he has such an impressive ko ratio for me shows he's the one with the more natural power.
john b
12-30-2007, 02:08 PM
I think it goes the distance then I would tend to go for macrinelli, but he ahst to stay away from hayes bombs because if he can't haye wll KO him.
scurlaruntings
12-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Enzo's power is definately overrated, not least by himself.
After the Braithwaite fight he said something to the effect that he had hit Braithwaite with some great shots that would have crippled most opponents. Well, most of his opponents maybe, but this was Braithwaite who had been knocked out by Guillermo Jones two years previously and was shot to bits.
Dominguez is the best name on Enzo's stopage record, but most of his fights have been in South America and going 8 rounds with Valuev is hardly the achievement some are portraying.
Yet Enzo can say with an apparantly straight face that he hits harder than Haye? I'd be genuinely interested in his explanation in that case for how come 95% of Haye's wins came within the distance yet only 75% of Enzo's wins (against lower quality opposition for the most part) have done.Braithwaite wasnt and isnt shot.he just got found out when he stepped into "real" world class.He simply didnt have the strength nor power to hold of Mormeck.When the two fought his shots literally bounced off Mormeck despite Wayne really loading up.
Wayne never filled out into a cruiser.He was small when he faced Mormeck weighing well under the 200lb limit and did the same when he faced Enzo.Against Jones he did the same again and was outgunned in a very exciting fight (although i do think the bout was stopped slightly early..) If Wayne had any common sense he`d get himself onto a good weights regime and increase his overall strength and conditioning at cruiser.His got plenty to offer and is only 32.His not had many wars and certainly has alot of mileage left.Its just a shame that since Jones his career stalled for a year and then he got outboxed by Enzo.
steelem
12-30-2007, 06:48 PM
If Enzo lands properly, he hurts you. The guys power is proven.
We know he can hit as hard as Mormeck and Mock so fear for Haye is valid.
Agree with you achilles - still think haye is overated though - im going with an enzo victory although im sure haye will chuck a lot of punches until his on the canvas
scott is cool
12-30-2007, 09:37 PM
Haye hits harder than he hits on woman. And Macca hits even harder again.
Ilesey
12-31-2007, 06:43 AM
I think it is quite obvious to see that Enzo hits with a fair amount of power.
The Lads
12-31-2007, 07:27 AM
a decent fighter he has knocked out....... dominick gunn and the former world ranked (according to enzo himself after the fight) undefeated mohammed azoui
Do you mean Bobby Gunn... terrible when a joke goes wrong, isnt it.
The Lads
12-31-2007, 09:57 AM
First in 27 that enxo calzaghe will have lost in world title fights if haye wins.
SevenSamurai
12-31-2007, 10:07 AM
If Enzo lands properly, he hurts you. The guys power is proven.
We know he can hit as hard as Mormeck and Mock so fear for Haye is valid.
You avatar needs updating. Ricky got beat.:lol:
He does hit hard, but he’ll most likely get thrashed by Haye.
Enzo’s a good euro-level fighter who’s been cleverly matched against other borderline Euro-quality opponents. That he has a title is more down to smart work on Frank ******’s half than any real talent from Enzo.
He hits hard and he can box a bit. He’ll not be going in all guns blazing against Haye because he’d get flattened. I wouldn’t be surprised if this goes 12 because of Enzo realising, after maybe 5 rounds that Haye is so superior to him, he’ll just go into his shell and try to survive.
I expect (and hope) that Haye carries his left a little higher for this fight or, even better, slams Macca in the first round and sends him into a corner before administering a ferocious beating that has Calzaghe Snr throw in the towel to save his fighter’s career.
Then we’ll have hopefully seen the last of this utter fraud of a champion.
Big fan of Enzo eh?
achillesthegreat
12-31-2007, 11:16 AM
Agree with you achilles - still think haye is overated though - im going with an enzo victory although im sure haye will chuck a lot of punches until his on the canvas
When you are one of only FOUR linear champs in the history of your division how overrated can you be?
No one is talking about Haye being the next Holyfield when he could be.
Haye still has many more defining fights to go. The Enzo fight is a great start.
achillesthegreat
12-31-2007, 11:16 AM
You avatar needs updating. Ricky got beat.:lol:
Stop bullying me.
Just let me live in the past :D
johnny5
12-31-2007, 12:14 PM
His punches seem powerfull enough to me!
scott is cool
01-01-2008, 10:19 AM
He isn't that powerful? Lets see anybody here stand in the way of his right fist.
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