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unitas
07-05-2007, 02:45 PM
At welter. the duran of the leonard fight vs the best version of curry.

could duran have imposed his pressure style he used vs palomino and leonard also vs the very heavy hitting and accurate curry??


who wins?

brownpimp88
07-05-2007, 03:10 PM
People can go on and say Duran by ud but the fact of the mattter is that a prime duran was a lightweight beating up on esteban de jesus, ken buchanon and B-C level lightweights. Donald Curry would have a 50/50 shot at beating him . Donald Curry is not an ATG, but he is defiently a future 2nd ballot hall of famer and had success at 147 and 154. I would give him a legit shot at outclassing duran just like benitez, hearns and laing did.

unitas
07-05-2007, 03:20 PM
sure, duran is the greater fighter. but this is head to head.

at first i would say duran by UD. but if you look at durans fight with the capable palomino, you´d quickly imagine how that kind of bullying would work against the sharpshooting curry?

if you walked into curry, he was at his best.

i pick curry by an upset decision.

brooklyn1550
07-05-2007, 04:30 PM
Duran

hdog
07-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Curry's dangerous but too fragile mentally.

Robbi
07-05-2007, 04:41 PM
Curry was a very good long range boxer, with an excellent jab. He was also just as good inside. Accuracy was one of Curry's biggest strengths. The big problem for him against Duran would be movement. He was a decent mover, but not in the same class as Leonard. While boxing behind the jab, Curry was more inclined to stay right in front of opponent. Duran would have the ability to read Curry and slip his jabs, thus getting inside. And as good as Curry was inside, he'd be no match for Duran.

Duran TKO8

Stonehands89
07-05-2007, 04:55 PM
I tend to agree, Robbi.

Curry was a thinking man's fighter, but his deliberation would cost him here because Duran had a way of getting all over you from all angles. He was a great technician -at least as good as Arguello or Chavez but he combined it with savage attacks. He was like Pryor with a brain.

He may shock Curry with an early KO, but it is more likely that he takes Curry out of his game and lands an easy decision.

Robbi
07-05-2007, 05:11 PM
I tend to agree, Robbi.

Curry was a thinking man's fighter, but his deliberation would cost him here because Duran had a way of getting all over you from all angles. He was a great technician -at least as good as Arguello or Chavez but he combined it with savage attacks. He was like Pryor with a brain.

He may shock Curry with an early KO, but it is more likely that he takes Curry out of his game and lands an easy decision.

Curry was a complete fighter at his very best. Technically gifted, and had a very tight defense. He picked his opponents punches off with his high guard while stalking them down. But was never the type of boxer who liked to keep things stricly at long range. He was a hunter most of the time really. He just doesn't possess Leonard's tactical brilliance against fighters of like Duran and Hearns. Curry would have been competitive against both those guys, but just not quite enough in the end to defeat them.

heerko koois
07-05-2007, 05:38 PM
Prime Curry beats duran at 147 ..........he would outbox him and get an UD over 15 rounds .........[ this is a fact ]

Robbi
07-05-2007, 06:08 PM
Prime Curry beats duran at 147 ..........he would outbox him and get an UD over 15 rounds .........[ this is a fact ]

Its not a fact. Its strictly an opinion. The fight never happened, or did you see it live and everyone else on the planet missed it?.

heerko koois
07-05-2007, 06:13 PM
Its not a fact. Its strictly an opinion. The fight never happened, or did you see it live and everyone else on the planet missed it?.

Yes ......there were only 5 people there.....but Curry won it ...:yep :smoke

brownpimp88
07-05-2007, 06:14 PM
Good God dude! Do you not realize that people are capable of moving uo in weight and still doing well? You probably think all the greats would beat SRR at MW just because he was at his best at WW. People are still capable of being good at weights other than their natural weight ya know. Geesh! :good Great fighters dont magically move up into higher weights when they are still in thier prime. Pernell Whitaker beat buddy Mcgirt but he didn't dominate him at all, he won a very close fight. It was clear that the whitaker at welterweight had slowed down considerably compared to the God that humiliated ramirez twice, turned greg haugen into a punching bag, embarassed roger mayweather at his 11th fight and completely outclassed an ATG like azumah nelson and a very good fighter like jorge paez.

Same thing applies to Duran, he had a couple of great performances at welterweight, but as he moved up, he was clearly not the same fighter. Guys like Marvin Hagler, Eusebio Pedroza, etc had longevity cuz they stayed in thier natural weight class due to the fact that they didnt eat themselves out of it. A Duran at welterweight is not in his prime, it's that simple, not too hard to understand, sweet pea:good

Titan1
07-05-2007, 06:46 PM
Curry in an upset, UD 15.

heerko koois
07-05-2007, 06:48 PM
:happy :good Curry in an upset, UD 15.

robert ungurean
07-05-2007, 07:51 PM
Duran, of course.

Robbi
07-05-2007, 08:23 PM
The Duran who fought Leonard was arguably the best Duran we've ever seen, and the Whitaker that fought Chavez(at 147 no less) was one of the best we'd ever seen. His fights with fellow P4P fighter McGirt were good fights, but Whitaker clearly won the first(though close) and dominated the second. Also his fight at 154 with Vasquez needs reference.

Whitaker probably moved and boxed as well as he ever did at welterweight against Chavez. But his relexes and, quickness of hand and foot, were not quite what they were two divisions below. He never had the lightness to constantly move and keep as busy. While his performance against Chavez was awesome, he was past his prime by about 2 or 3 years.

rekcutnevets
07-05-2007, 08:53 PM
Curry's chances are very good in this fight. Duran has a bad stance for taller fighters with a straight right hand. The Cobra had a decent straight right, good movement, and solid boxing ability. I'll take Curry by decision: 8-4.

rekcutnevets
07-05-2007, 08:55 PM
I just went back, and read at welter. For some reason I was thinking 154. This makes it a little different. I'll take Duran by stoppage in 11th while behind on points.

Sardu
01-12-2010, 08:55 PM
This would be something! It is harder to gauge Duran as he moved up in weight because he could be sensational when he was motivated or indifferent if he watched film and thought his opponent was ordinary. The Duran of June 20th, 1980 would beat Curry in a similar fashion Leonard except I believe he would get the Cobra out of there in the later rounds. Curry would sting Duran too and it would take maximum effort but Duran would get it done I think.

Duran KO 13 Curry

leverage
01-13-2010, 01:12 AM
Curry definitely had the skills to beat duran but I question whether or not he had the toughness. Even though I'd favor curry this fight could have gone the other way. Duran was one tough fighter and curry would have had to have the right mindset to win.

laxpdx
01-13-2010, 02:55 AM
If Duran is to win this one, he'd have to use his spectacular defensive abilities. Trying to bully the bigger, stronger, harder hitting Curry wouldn't have the success it did against SRL. I think if Duran slips and counters, while minimizing the effect of the shots he takes, he can take a points win. But if Duran tries to get inside, I take Curry by decision.

frankenfrank
01-13-2010, 05:33 AM
curry wins , a stoppage is also a realistic possibility.

duranimal
01-13-2010, 07:13 AM
curry wins , a stoppage is also a realistic possibility.

HOW? break it down round by round please:smoke

WhataRock
01-13-2010, 07:34 AM
HOW? break it down round by round please:smoke

:lol:

Good luck duran...frankenwank couldnt even break down a corn flakes box, its to technical for him.

Stevie G
01-13-2010, 07:37 AM
The Duran of Montreal would have pulled out a clear decision. He would probably come from behind round about the fifth round,and gradually pull further and further ahead. Too tough for Curry at this point.

duranimal
01-13-2010, 07:52 AM
:lol:

Good luck duran...frankenwank couldnt even break down a corn flakes box, its to technical for him.

I was hoping for a bit of abusive sadistic fun:lol:

duranimal
01-13-2010, 08:07 AM
The Duran of Montreal would have pulled out a clear decision. He would probably come from behind round about the fifth round,and gradually pull further and further ahead. Too tough for Curry at this point.

Absolutly:deal I've always liked Curry but really he's in a whole world of hurt here, Duran has all the moves/spped & angles to make life desperate for Curry after 5/6 rounds & no way can he win this on the retreat, he may survive but he'll look like he's been put through a paper shredder but i see Curry being slowed down & static after 8/9 rounds then being chopped to bits as pot shotting ai'nt going to be enough to halt Duran's momentum & if Ray Leonard failed & dominated into the bargain then it's a banker that Curry will fail x 10:deal

The one thing that Ray leonard said that shocked him about Duran in Montreal was Duran's countering speed & defence & Curry just has no where near the versatility that Ray Leonard had & most people picking Curry here ought to go back & watch Montreal or the Palomino fight just to appraise Durans deceptive capabilities in countering & then piling in with murderous intent & if Curry falters at any time in this fight then he'll be murdered & IMO i see Duran beating Curry to a pulp no later than 10/11:bbb

The Morlocks
01-13-2010, 10:31 AM
Curry was a very good long range boxer, with an excellent jab. He was also just as good inside. Accuracy was one of Curry's biggest strengths. The big problem for him against Duran would be movement. He was a decent mover, but not in the same class as Leonard. While boxing behind the jab, Curry was more inclined to stay right in front of opponent. Duran would have the ability to read Curry and slip his jabs, thus getting inside. And as good as Curry was inside, he'd be no match for Duran.

Duran TKO8
Agree entirely with this and the one about Curry being fragile mentally. I always thought Pryor's frinetic movement would cause real problems for Curry and cause him to get ko'd. Honeyghan's all out attack did just this. Even w' Curry at his best, I think he would have lost the same way to Honeyghan.:reggie

Stevie G
01-13-2010, 10:44 AM
Agree entirely with this and the one about Curry being fragile mentally. I always thought Pryor's frinetic movement would cause real problems for Curry and cause him to get ko'd. Honeyghan's all out attack did just this. Even w' Curry at his best, I think he would have lost the same way to Honeyghan.:reggie
Absolutely. Honeyghan would have always had Curry's number.

Stevie G
01-13-2010, 10:46 AM
Absolutly:deal I've always liked Curry but really he's in a whole world of hurt here, Duran has all the moves/spped & angles to make life desperate for Curry after 5/6 rounds & no way can he win this on the retreat, he may survive but he'll look like he's been put through a paper shredder but i see Curry being slowed down & static after 8/9 rounds then being chopped to bits as pot shotting ai'nt going to be enough to halt Duran's momentum & if Ray Leonard failed & dominated into the bargain then it's a banker that Curry will fail x 10:deal

The one thing that Ray leonard said that shocked him about Duran in Montreal was Duran's countering speed & defence & Curry just has no where near the versatility that Ray Leonard had & most people picking Curry here ought to go back & watch Montreal or the Palomino fight just to appraise Durans deceptive capabilities in countering & then piling in with murderous intent & if Curry falters at any time in this fight then he'll be murdered & IMO i see Duran beating Curry to a pulp no later than 10/11:bbb
Yes. A lot of people tend to forget about the sheer skill that Duran had.