Floyd Mayweather is scared shitless of Shane Mosley...

[achillesthegreat]

...but relinquished his 154 belt and kept his 147 belt where his mandatory is Shane Mosley. :patsch

[Relentless]

mosley is gonna kick some ass!!

[pipe wrenched]

Yep, that proves it. He's scared shitless.

[Jose FM]

It will be nice to see another GBP balllicker go down at the hands of the Pretty One. PBF could make a career out of embarrassing GBP.
Embarrassing GBP? How do you figure? They are being embarrassed all the way to the bank!:deal

[JMonster]

floyd will beat nebody still

[achillesthegreat]

You can't argue Miguel over Mosley. Cotto is the rising tide but Mosley is the better fight for Mayweather. Mosley is already great, already a elite 147, higher P4P and the bigger name even.

[Thread Stealer]

I'd rather see Mayweather-Cotto than any other fight, but that will have to wait anyway.

If Arum wanted it before, he would've been calling for it, but he wanted to match up Margarito with Mayweather.

Maybe next year the fight will be more makeable.

[igotJUIC3]

they are all good fights...i just want to see them happen...not even just floyd like some of you said mosley cotto or hatton cotto or cotto margo...all of those are great for boxing

[Jinx]

at this point i think Cotto's style is bruising enough to discourage Mosley, but Mosley's style is better to fight PBF...as said a million times before, styles make the fights, and i could easily see Mosley besting PBF, but losing to Cotto, then PBF comes back and embarrasses Cotto...i hopes these fights happen but it's probably wishful thinking...

[pipe wrenched]

Don't tell me that if Floyd fought Mosley and he won that the next day there wouldn't be a thousand post crying that Mosley is 35 years old. PBF is damned if he do and damned if he don't.

[brooklyn1550]

Mosley-Mayweather must happen...it will go a long way solidifying each fighters legacy. Cotto-Mosley and Cotto-Mayweather would be good matchups as well - Cotto could win both fights

[Jinx]

Don't tell me that if Floyd fought Mosley and he won that the next day there wouldn't be a thousand post crying that Mosley is 35 years old. PBF is damned if he do and damned if he don't.

to be honest PBF brought that on himself...he tries to talk it up like Ali, but lacks the charisma to get fans to back him up...PBF would've been much better off playing the humble, nice-guy role...Whitaker never was a KO artist either, but he kept his mouth in check so people appreciated his skills, even his defensive skills...PBF chose the wrong character and it will affect his place in history to some degree...true greatness will always be determined by the people, so if few people like you, logic says you will be less great regardless of accomplishments...look at Barry Bonds...

[Thread Stealer]

to be honest PBF brought that on himself...he tries to talk it up like Ali, but lacks the charisma to get fans to back him up...PBF would've been much better off playing the humble, nice-guy role...Whitaker never was a KO artist either, but he kept his mouth in check so people appreciated his skills, even his defensive skills...P


Whitaker may have not claimed stuff like "I'm better than Ray Robinson", but he was difficult with the media and came across as a big jerk, just like Floyd.

PBF chose the wrong character and it will affect his place in history to some degree...true greatness will always be determined by the people, so if few people like you, logic says you will be less great regardless of accomplishments...look at Barry Bonds...

The general public doesn't know crap about boxing. Most of "the people" probably never heard of Eder Jofre but will talk about how Mike Tyson is one of the greatest fighters ever.

[acb]

As long as they go there minus championship belts and with "Ls" added to their records, its all good!:yep

Yea not like DLH, Mosely, Barrera, and Bernard havent had their share of championship belts. :lol:

[igotJUIC3]

Whitaker may have not claimed stuff like "I'm better than Ray Robinson", but he was difficult with the media and came across as a big jerk, just like Floyd.



The general public doesn't know crap about boxing. Most of "the people" probably never heard of Eder Jofre but will talk about how Mike Tyson is one of the greatest fighters ever.

the story of this whole forum! u just summed it up

[the_what]

This is the fight I wanna see the most right now.

Mayweather/Mosley
Cotto/Margarito

Then have the winners face one another.

[Jinx]

Whitaker may have not claimed stuff like "I'm better than Ray Robinson", but he was difficult with the media and came across as a big jerk, just like Floyd.

being difficult with the media or being a jerk is not the point...the point is PBF hasn't backed up his mouth in recent years and that has hurt his credibility...you can't be the no 1 p4p, be black, and say you're going to destroy DLH inside the distance and then fight a safety-first fight...i like PBF but that's not how it works here in America...everybody can't be Ali, he was a jerk too and there was a time when no one liked him, but he won everyone over by producing the fireworks he said he would produce, and he had charisma...PBF doesn't have that, i call'em like i see'em...



The general public doesn't know crap about boxing. Most of "the people" probably never heard of Eder Jofre but will talk about how Mike Tyson is one of the greatest fighters ever.

the general puplic doesn't have to know crap about boxing...all they have to do is support who they like, and money will be made...ones that know boxing know that Arturo Gatti was never an elite fighter, but the general public near his hometown will fill up the arena to see him fight...

[Thread Stealer]

being difficult with the media or being a jerk is not the point...the point is PBF hasn't backed up his mouth in recent years and that has hurt his credibility...you can't be the no 1 p4p, be black, and say you're going to destroy DLH inside the distance and then fight a safety-first fight...i like PBF but that's not how it works here in America...everybody can't be Ali, he was a jerk too and there was a time when no one liked him, but he won everyone over by producing the fireworks he said he would produce, and he had charisma...PBF doesn't have that, i call'em like i see'em...


If you're talking about the general public and Floyd being loved, then I agree.

But even if Mayweather were more likeable and the DLH fight was more action-packed, I doubt Floyd would be a crossover star. That's rare in boxing anyway.


the general puplic doesn't have to know crap about boxing...all they have to do is support who they like, and money will be made...ones that know boxing know that Arturo Gatti was never an elite fighter, but the general public near his hometown will fill up the arena to see him fight...

But you're talking about "true greatness".

Floyd can be dull and win a boring decision a la the Baldomir fight, against guys like Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, etc.....and he'd still be a great despite people not liking him.

Plenty of greats have low KO percentages are were not the most crowd-pleasing.

[Fab2333]

Don't tell me that if Floyd fought Mosley and he won that the next day there wouldn't be a thousand post crying that Mosley is 35 years old. PBF is damned if he do and damned if he don't.

yup, either way Floyd goes people are never going to give Floyd his repsect. Hatton called him out, the man wants to come out of retirement to fight him. Let him fight Hatton first and then after we can debate on his next opponent. To me a fight with Mosley all people are going to say is that, Floyd beat Mosley when he was past his prime etc. etc. etc. Hatton is undefeated and in his prime, and he called him out, more incentive to woop Hattons ass. Migeul Cotto should be Floyd's opponent after Hatton. Again he is young and undefeated. Him fightin Mosley will be a good fight, but i wouldnt make any sense. B/c there will alays be an xcuse with him from the media, and Floyd haters.:deal

[pipe wrenched]

to be honest PBF brought that on himself...he tries to talk it up like Ali, but lacks the charisma to get fans to back him up...PBF would've been much better off playing the humble, nice-guy role...Whitaker never was a KO artist either, but he kept his mouth in check so people appreciated his skills, even his defensive skills...PBF chose the wrong character and it will affect his place in history to some degree...true greatness will always be determined by the people, so if few people like you, logic says you will be less great regardless of accomplishments...look at Barry Bonds...

Good response Jinx and I do see your points. I was expecting to check back and see someone say i have floyds nuts in my mouth:lol: . PBF wasnt always that way though, he used to be all yes sir, yes ma'am when talking to people. I am no floyd lover but i do like to watch him fight and appreciate his skill level. I may not have seen them all but at what point did floyd start "running" as people love to put it? the Baldi fight? Early years esp. I always saw PBF in there fightin and gettin some KO's. Was it when he moved in weight and everyone was a bit bigger than him? I didn't follow hardcore until recently and was wondering?

[Jinx]

But you're talking about "true greatness".

Floyd can be dull and win a boring decision a la the Baldomir fight, against guys like Cotto, Mosley, Hatton, etc.....and he'd still be a great despite people not liking him.

Plenty of greats have low KO percentages are were not the most crowd-pleasing.

we're still missing each other on the "greatness" point...i never said PBF wasn't a great fighter...my point was that PBF is not as great as his accomplishments suggest because of the way he has portrayed himself...if PBF were to be permanently retired tomorrow, I would have him in MY top 20-25 fighters of all-time p4p based on accomplishments...but my opinion won't stack up to the many boxing historians or "experts" that do not rate PBF that highly on the "greatness" scale...the fact is PBF is not an all-time great if he retired tomorrow, according to the MAJORITY...

[pipe wrenched]

As indicated I only found ESB in March (never was much on computers, that is til i found ESB now i'm late for work and stayin up late cause i can't get enough) but I saw instantly how it goes because before May 5 people were saying Oscar's still got it and he's not old. May 6 Oscar was shot, old as hell, and that's the only reason floyd won.

[Jinx]

Good response Jinx and I do see your points. I was expecting to check back and see someone say i have floyds nuts in my mouth:lol: . PBF wasnt always that way though, he used to be all yes sir, yes ma'am when talking to people. I am no floyd lover but i do like to watch him fight and appreciate his skill level. I may not have seen them all but at what point did floyd start "running" as people love to put it? the Baldi fight? Early years esp. I always saw PBF in there fightin and gettin some KO's. Was it when he moved in weight and everyone was a bit bigger than him?

the ones that comment about PBF being a runner are just haters...i'm like you, i'm not a PBF groupie, but i appreciate his skills...but i also know that he has screwed himself with his mouth...

[Fab2333]

As indicated I only found ESB in March (never was much on computers, that is til i found ESB now i'm late for work and stayin up late cause i can't get enough) but I saw instantly how it goes because before May 5 people were saying Oscar's still got it and he's not old. May 6 Oscar was shot, old as hell, and that's the only reason floyd won.

:rofl:rofl:rofl and its the truth. We had a thread where evry1 chose a side for who was going to win. And the losing end didnt sign on 4 a week, or wateva maybe the case. And the day after people didnt hold up their end of the bet. And all the people that ran with Oscar said he was shot, he didnt look like himself etc. when the day be4 them same people was sayin oscar is 2 big he is gonna woop floyd. Floyd wont be able to "run" from oscar. etc. that whole run thing i quite dont understand but hey

[DoumB]

Yeah, I've heard of him, and Mosley would KO him, and would be a better challenge for Floyd.

your opinion isnt too far from the truth, a few years back and mosley would had KO cotto but right now I dunno man..

[platnumpapi]

...but relinquished his 154 belt and kept his 147 belt where his mandatory is Shane Mosley. :patsch

that really shows how scared mayweather jr is huh :patsch

[eze]

Floyd could fight Mosley. Dominate him. Everyone calls Mosley old. Mosley could go and kick the shit out of Cotto and other top fighters at WW after he got dominated by Floyd, but no one would give Floyd credit.

[platnumpapi]

You can't argue Miguel over Mosley. Cotto is the rising tide but Mosley is the better fight for Mayweather. Mosley is already great, already a elite 147, higher P4P and the bigger name even.

pbf haters want him to fight a prime fighter but what they mean is a younger fighter.cotto is a great fighter but its not hard to see that mosely would not only stop cotto but that he is the biggest threat to pbf.

problem is mosley is 35 and would be 36 before the fight even happend.now shane gives mayweather fits for days and its a close fight till the end, but pbf gets the nod in the fight.what happens now, do will praise pbf for beating another great fighter, or say the guy was passed his best and pbf never fights guys in there primes.:huh

if he fights a younger cotto then will he get his due for beating him or will we hear that he was scared of shane.no matter what he does, somebody will always have something to say.

on paper and off shane is the harder fight for pbf to win not cotto.most know that already.but either way he will get a shit load for fighting one and not the other.

[platnumpapi]

Floyd could fight Mosley. Dominate him. Everyone calls Mosley old. Mosley could go and kick the shit out of Cotto and other top fighters at WW after he got dominated by Floyd, but no one would give Floyd credit.

hes damned if he do and damned if he dont.id say fuck both of them for right now.for yrs cotto nor mosley wanted anything to do with mayweather and even hatton.now that pbf beat odh everyone wants to fight him.id say pbf needs to chill and just let people come after him and fight the guy who can give him the most money and mean something to his legacy.

i use to want to see pbf vs mosley right away
but now i want to see pbf vs hatton and then mosley.
then a tie between cotto and margo

[pipe wrenched]

that really shows how scared mayweather jr is huh :patsch

No doubt, I couldn't believe my own eyes when i read that myself.:lol:

[pipe wrenched]

hes damned if he do and damned if he dont.id say fuck both of them for right now.for yrs cotto nor mosley wanted anything to do with mayweather and even hatton.now that pbf beat odh everyone wants to fight him.id say pbf needs to chill and just let people come after him and fight the guy who can give him the most money and mean something to his legacy.

i use to want to see pbf vs mosley right away
but now i want to see pbf vs hatton and then mosley.
then a tie between cotto and margo

My words exactly earlier in this thread. He's damned if he do and damned if he don't.:huh

[Bazooka]

This fight will happen Floyd is just letting it sizzle for a bit, and why not? he can make some very easy money fighting Hatton before this fight, so again after Oscar he should be allowed one easy fight, Hatton would qualify as that soft fight, then on to business which is Mosley of which we know Floyd will have his work cut out for him.

[Toopretty]

This fight will happen Floyd is just letting it sizzle for a bit, and why not? he can make some very easy money fighting Hatton before this fight, so again after Oscar he should be allowed one easy fight, Hatton would qualify as that soft fight, then on to business which is Mosley of which we know Floyd will have his work cut out for him.





True, I think Mosley/Cotto present an equal challenge. Mosley may be a little tougher b/c he got a good chin. Yeah but no matter what, PEOPLE HAVE BLIND HATE TOWARDS FLOYD. Think about it if he beats Cotto, they will say he fought cotto cause he was ducking the wbo.lol champ margarito:barf. If he beats Shane(which is the fight that most haters are calling for just so they can say floyd fights past his prime opp) they would say he was past it. If he beat Hatton, they would say Hatton was not at his best and floyd is weak for fighting a 140 guy even in reality he is a 140 guy himself that beefed up to 147. If he beat margarito which he would in the same easy fashion that he did Baldomir unimpressive b/c floyd is not hurting marg(maybe to the body) but will easily out point him and NOT get hit by his slow ass looping side armed power punches that have never landed on Floyd. EVER. So, there you have it. Damned if he do, damned if he dont. But he will fight Hatton and probably Cotto before it is all said and done. Too much money to be made.:D:D:D

[bigtime9]

easy 50 million fighting cotto and hatton.:lol:

[Lar Janus]

I don't know that I'd ever pick someone to beat PBF, again. All he has to do is go into survival mode (starting in rd 1), avoid getting ko'd, and he'll get the decision.

[Starched Him]

mosley is gonna kick some ass!!
:lol:

[Popkins]

It beats me why people think that Floyd fighting Shane was some sort of moral victory for the cherrypicker. He moved to Shane's division in 2005, avoided him for 5 years, and then fought him when Shane was 5 years older and coming off a long lay-off, and had already been outboxed by Miguel Cotto years earlier. Someone explain to me why this was a courageous and special achievement by Floyd???

[squanto]

It beats me why people think that Floyd fighting Shane was some sort of moral victory for the cherrypicker. He moved to Shane's division in 2005, avoided him for 5 years, and then fought him when Shane was 5 years older and coming off a long lay-off, and had already been outboxed by Miguel Cotto years earlier. Someone explain to me why this was a courageous and special achievement by Floyd???

Um no, Floyd openly called out Mosley back in 2006 after his win against Carlos Baldomir. When Mosley was asked about it after his fight with Vargas he didn't seem to be to excited about the idea of fighting Floyd. All of the sudden Floyd beats his ass and he's shot and all of this other bullshit :-(

[Popkins]

Um no, Floyd openly called out Mosley back in 2006 after his win against Carlos Baldomir. When Mosley was asked about it after his fight with Vargas he didn't seem to be to excited about the idea of fighting Floyd. All of the sudden Floyd beats his ass and he's shot and all of this other bullshit :-(

Calling someone out and doing something about it are two very different things. Outboxing Shane Mosley a decade after his peak and 3 years after Miguel Cotto did it is no great achievement. If Floyd had fought him in his 1st fight at welter instead of Sharmba Mitchell, I would have been impressed. As it is, I am not. And I won't be impressed when Manny knocks his exhausted old ass out either.

[PowerPuncher]

Um no, Floyd openly called out Mosley back in 2006 after his win against Carlos Baldomir. When Mosley was asked about it after his fight with Vargas he didn't seem to be to excited about the idea of fighting Floyd. All of the sudden Floyd beats his ass and he's shot and all of this other bullshit :-(

What are you talking about, Floyd knew Mosley wanted to fix his teeth and go on vacation, thats pretty much the same as calling out an injured man, he wouldn't have called him out otherwise

[Relentless]

:lol:

this was 2007 when mosley would have kicked his ass.

actually he would have kicked floyds ass anyway if the fight wasn't fixed, al haymon is a cancer to boxing!!

[spud1]

Don't tell me that if Floyd fought Mosley and he won that the next day there wouldn't be a thousand post crying that Mosley is 35 years old. PBF is damned if he do and damned if he don't.

This guy said it how it was three years ago.:rofl

[Concrete]

Um no, Floyd openly called out Mosley back in 2006 after his win against Carlos Baldomir. When Mosley was asked about it after his fight with Vargas he didn't seem to be to excited about the idea of fighting Floyd. All of the sudden Floyd beats his ass and he's shot and all of this other bullshit :-(

Before that, he called him out in 05 after Bruceles. Mayweather also moved UP to 147 and instead of Mosley coming to 147 to meet Mayweather he stayed at middle weight until 07. Mosley chose to fight and rematch Vargas over Mayweather as he new it wasn't a great stylistic match up for him and he couldn't afford to lose again after losing to Wright. Mayweather was also looking to fight Winky Wright at WW in 05, but Winky went for bigger money fight vs Trinidad at 160.

[igotJUIC3]

Before that, he called him out in 05 after Bruceles. Mayweather also moved UP to 147 and instead of Mosley coming to 147 to meet Mayweather he stayed at middle weight until 07. Mosley chose to fight and rematch Vargas over Mayweather as he new it wasn't a great stylistic match up for him and he couldn't afford to lose again after losing to Wright. Mayweather was also looking to fight Winky Wright at WW in 05, but Winky went for bigger money fight vs Trinidad at 160.

Great post...i dont understand why people say when Floyd called him out it means nothing...but when someone calls Floyd out and Floyd doesnt jump all over the shyt...Floyd's ducking...fukk outta here.

But i think Winky did actualy say he would fight Floyd....nothing materialized though.

[Starched Him]

What are you talking about, Floyd knew Mosley wanted to fix his teeth and go on vacation, thats pretty much the same as calling out an injured man, he wouldn't have called him out otherwise
hu? Mosley was asked right after the fight about mayweather and thats when he said that

[Starched Him]

Great post...i dont understand why people say when Floyd called him out it means nothing...but when someone calls Floyd out and Floyd doesnt jump all over the shyt...Floyd's ducking...fukk outta here.

But i think Winky did actualy say he would fight Floyd....nothing materialized though.
zab took 25% and winky want 50
zab got promised the fight

[caneman]

Um no, Floyd openly called out Mosley back in 2006 after his win against Carlos Baldomir. When Mosley was asked about it after his fight with Vargas he didn't seem to be to excited about the idea of fighting Floyd. All of the sudden Floyd beats his ass and he's shot and all of this other bullshit :-(

The Shane Mosley that Floyd beat was a Sergio Mora level fighter, as was proven just a few months later.

Disagree? Then you must think Pacquiao is fighting a legit Shane Mosley as well. You can't have it both ways.

[Starched Him]

this was 2007 when mosley would have kicked his ass.

actually he would have kicked floyds ass anyway if the fight wasn't fixed, al haymon is a cancer to boxing!!
lol I personally thought he was gonna kick floyd ass last year oh well

[igotJUIC3]

zab took 25% and winky want 50
zab got promised the fight


oh.....well theres the reason...preciate the response

[Starched Him]

The Shane Mosley that Floyd beat was a Sergio Mora level fighter, as was proven just a few months later.

Disagree? Then you must think Pacquiao is fighting a legit Shane Mosley as well. You can't have it both ways.
Shane will Own Pac

[Starched Him]

oh.....well theres the reason...preciate the response
No problem

[squanto]

The Shane Mosley that Floyd beat was a Sergio Mora level fighter, as was proven just a few months later.

Disagree? Then you must think Pacquiao is fighting a legit Shane Mosley as well. You can't have it both ways.

The fact that Mosley under trained and didn't take Mora seriously isn't even a remote possibility to you?

[bballchump11]

It beats me why people think that Floyd fighting Shane was some sort of moral victory for the cherrypicker. He moved to Shane's division in 2005, avoided him for 5 years, and then fought him when Shane was 5 years older and coming off a long lay-off, and had already been outboxed by Miguel Cotto years earlier. Someone explain to me why this was a courageous and special achievement by Floyd???
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[LancsTerrible]

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He was ducking him when it was pretty much clear that Floyd was going to fight Oscar and make mega bucks?

Mediocre draw Shane Mosley or mega draw Oscar? If Mosley had come out and said he wanted the fight he still wouldn't have got it, succeeding in only making grief between himself and business partner Oscar.

No one ducked no one. Pretty simple concept all round.

[VecArrow]

Don't tell me that if Floyd fought Mosley and he won that the next day there wouldn't be a thousand post crying that Mosley is 35 years old. PBF is damned if he do and damned if he don't.

People with sense, predicting pactards excuses since july 2007.

[darryl1914]

It beats me why people think that Floyd fighting Shane was some sort of moral victory for the cherrypicker. He moved to Shane's division in 2005, avoided him for 5 years, and then fought him when Shane was 5 years older and coming off a long lay-off, and had already been outboxed by Miguel Cotto years earlier. Someone explain to me why this was a courageous and special achievement by Floyd???




Shane Mosley in 2006....Beginning at 2:15 PRICELESS!!!
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[LancsTerrible]

Shane Mosley in 2006....Beginning at 2:15 PRICELESS!!!
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He was ducking him when it was pretty much clear that Floyd was going to fight Oscar and make mega bucks?

Mediocre draw Shane Mosley or mega draw Oscar? If Mosley had come out and said he wanted the fight he still wouldn't have got it, succeeding in only making grief between himself and business partner Oscar.

No one ducked no one. Pretty simple concept all round.

I'll add to that. If Floyd Mayweather was scared of Shane Mosley then why did he take the fight when Shane was regarded as the number one man at 147?

And if Shane was scared of Floyd then why did he take the fight against the second best fighter in the world when he was old as fuck?

:bbb

[PBFred]

The Shane Mosley that Floyd beat was a Sergio Mora level fighter, as was proven just a few months later.

Disagree? Then you must think Pacquiao is fighting a legit Shane Mosley as well. You can't have it both ways.

Mosley was coming off one of the biggest wins of his career when Floyd fought him and now he is coming off a loss and a draw. Pac also ducked Mosley after that Margo beating.

Do you honestly not realize that recent fights are relevant? Say Alexander were to beat Bradley and then Pac were to fight Bradley, is Pac still fighting the best JWW? Should the win by Pac be given the same amount of credit that Alexander's win received?

You're far more reasonable than Popkins so please don't stoop down to his level.

[Relentless]

Mosley was coming off one of the biggest wins of his career when Floyd fought him and now he is coming off a loss and a draw. Pac also ducked Mosley after that Margo beating.

Do you honestly not realize that recent fights are relevant? Say Alexander were to beat Bradley and then Pac were to fight Bradley, is Pac still fighting the best JWW? Should the win by Pac be given the same amount of credit that Alexander's win received?

You're far more reasonable than Popkins so please don't stoop down to his level.

no.

[LancsTerrible]

Mosley was coming off one of the biggest wins of his career when Floyd fought him and now he is coming off a loss and a draw. Pac also ducked Mosley after that Margo beating.

Do you honestly not realize that recent fights are relevant? Say Alexander were to beat Bradley and then Pac were to fight Bradley, is Pac still fighting the best JWW? Should the win by Pac be given the same amount of credit that Alexander's win received?

You're far more reasonable than Popkins so please don't stoop down to his level.

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[PBFred]

no.

Yes.

It's easy to go down nostalgia lane and disagree but the win over Margo put Mosley back to #1 at welterweight and led to him getting the biggest fight of his career.

[LancsTerrible]

Yes.

It's easy to go down nostalgia lane and disagree but the win over Margo put Mosley back to #1 at welterweight and led to him getting the biggest fight of his career.

On 17 June 2000 he beat the best fighter he ever faced and became the number one pound for pound fighter in the world.

[PBFred]

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I said "one of"

Yes.

It's easy to go down nostalgia lane and disagree but the win over Margo put Mosley back to #1 at welterweight and led to him getting the biggest fight of his career.

[Relentless]

Yes.

It's easy to go down nostalgia lane and disagree but the win over Margo put Mosley back to #1 at welterweight and led to him getting the biggest fight of his career.

no

jumping 2 weight divisions, beating up the welterweight king to be crowned the p4p no.1 fighter in the world was the best win of his career.

only noobs like you thought margo would beat him.

[Relentless]

I said "one of"

my bad i thought you said the best.

[PBFred]

On 17 June 2000 he beat the best fighter he ever faced and became the number one pound for pound fighter in the world.

"one of"

Really?

I am not saying Margo win was better than DLH I. Ok?

[LancsTerrible]

"one of"

Really?

I am not saying Margo win was better than first DLH I. Ok?

Then we cool, brah.

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Real cool.

[PBFred]

Then we cool, brah.

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Real cool.

You had me going bro

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[Relentless]

im glad everythings cool now

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[LancsTerrible]

You had me going bro

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Ohhh you!

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[Relentless]

Mosley was coming off one of the biggest wins of his career

oh yeah...

1 year 5 months before the floyd fight:hey

[LancsTerrible]

im glad everythings cool now

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I'm glad everything is ok now.

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[Relentless]

you the man lance

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[PBFred]

oh yeah...

1 year 5 months before the floyd fight:hey

Don't ruin the moment

[LancsTerrible]

You too man. You too.

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[Relentless]

Don't ruin the moment

sorry bro

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[PBFred]

sorry bro

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No worries

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[Relentless]

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[Little Pea]

only noobs like you thought margo would beat him.

ahah Relentless as retarded as ever.

Mosley was a huge underdog against Margarito.

Congrats if you picked it right (which i doubt) but this doesn't make all the other (including many "experts") being noob.

[Relentless]

ahah Relentless as retarded as ever.

Mosley was a huge underdog against Margarito.

Congrats if you picked it right (which i doubt) but this doesn't make all the other (including many "experts") being noob.

he wasn't that big of an underdog idiot and there were quiet a few of us who did

me intentionalbutt, eze, amsterdam to name a few.

[VecArrow]

Mosley was coming off one of the biggest wins of his career when Floyd fought him and now he is coming off a loss and a draw. Pac also ducked Mosley after that Margo beating.

Do you honestly not realize that recent fights are relevant? Say Alexander were to beat Bradley and then Pac were to fight Bradley, is Pac still fighting the best JWW? Should the win by Pac be given the same amount of credit that Alexander's win received?

You're far more reasonable than Popkins so please don't stoop down to his level.

no.

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ONE OF.

not THE biggest

ONE OF.

[Little Pea]

he wasn't that big of an underdog idiot and there were quiet a few of us who did

me intentionalbutt, eze, amsterdam to name a few.

:clap: Yes we know (thanks to your avatar) that you get a lot of prediction right.

I still stand. Margarito was a heavy favourite.

[LancsTerrible]

ONE OF.

not THE biggest

ONE OF.

Lets not go through this again.

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[eze]

he wasn't that big of an underdog idiot and there were quiet a few of us who did

me intentionalbutt, eze, amsterdam to name a few.


I actually got it wrong.

I said Mosley was shot, wouldn't beat Margarito.

I got that one WAY wrong.

[PH|LLA]

I actually got it wrong.

I said Mosley was shot, wouldn't beat Margarito.

I got that one WAY wrong.
so you said Mosley was shot as far back as 2008. Then because he beat Margarito, he was no longer shot in 2010?

It's crazy how people base their opinions on just 1 fight. I always try to take into account several fights when making judgements.

[eze]

so you said Mosley was shot as far back as 2008. Then because he beat Margarito, he was no longer shot in 2010?

It's crazy how people base their opinions on just 1 fight. I always try to take into account several fights when making judgements.


It was more so because I thought Margarito was better than he actually was.

At first against Mayorga I thought Shane was starting to show it, but it was actually just cause Mayorga is awkward like that and can make people look bad.

Shane wasn't prime or anything close when he fought Mayweather but he was still a top fighter.

Inactive a bit but still. Mayweather had only fought Marquez, it's not like Mayweather was super active as well.

[Relentless]

I actually got it wrong.

I said Mosley was shot, wouldn't beat Margarito.

I got that one WAY wrong.

:huh

i remember chatting to you while watching the fight live, cant remember now, but IB for sure picked margo to lose.

[PH|LLA]

here are some of my comments before Margo vs Mosley

What weight is Mosley vs Margo at ?

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147 and you're right it does suit Mosley alot more. Mosley better master the clinch and keep his jab popping!

Margarito UD is my prediction


tough fight for Mosley.
However, if every great fighter has one last great performance in him, this could be it for Mosley. I hope so anyways


Mosley/Margarito at 147.. what are your thoughts??

will Margarito come in the same shape against Mosley as he did against Cotto?

does Mosley have the pop to stop Margo in his tracks?

for me this will be the key. Cotto has alot of pop but he was fighting on the backfoot all night, and was unable to slow the iron-chinned Margo down when his shots were landing.

I mean against Cotto, Margo would be throwing a punch and get hit flush but his momentum would not stop at all. Can he do this against Sugar Shane?



I'm just listening to this Shane Mosley interview and at some point he mentions how he believes that Berto would be a more difficult opponent than Margarito. And he says how Berto is fast and fights on impulse while Margo thinks before he punches and is slower than Mosley which allows him to know where the punches are coming and react. Add to that the fact that Nazim is gonna train Mosley against Margo probably much like he trained Hopkins against Pavlik... Also age is an issue for Mosley much like it was for Hopkins and Pavlik and Margo are going to bring the same gameplan which is to come forward and wear the opponent out..

Here is the interview

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if history repeats itself we might just see Mosley with his hands up at the end of the fight. Mosley is still around #15 on my p4p list btw.

some solid points. Mosley is much more prone to go gun-ho than Hopkins and lose track of a gameplan. But IMO he has the physical ablity and skills to implement any gameplan. thats why i tihnk Nazim might be the difference maker here.



imo Shane has the skills and ability to do whatever he wants in the ring, but I don't think his ring IQ is enough to know what he should do and when he should do it.

For me the X factor in this fight is Nazim Richardson. If he can put a lot of BHop into Sugar Shane then I think Mosley will edge a tight decision. If Mosley fights his usual self he will lose something like 8-4.

by the way I thought Mosley beat Mayorga comfortably even though it looked sloppy. In my eyes Mosley is still pretty much one of the top15 fighters in the world.


it's fun to read back

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Close the fucking thread.:deal