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mykolakozak
07-05-2007, 05:15 PM
I just took Top 15 of WBA, WBC, IBF, WBO and tallied up their country of origin to see what countries hold the Heavys of the Heavyweights. I got 37 boxers from only 13 different nations: The followign boxers in alphabetical order and country of origin that are on the Top 15 list of the 4 main belts:

Ray Austin US
Denis Bakhtor RU
Jean Francois Bergeron CA
Taras Bidenko UA
Lamon Brewster US
Calvin Brock US
Chris Byrd US
Shane Cameron NZ
Ruslan Chagaev UZ
Eddie Chambers US
Alexander Dimitrenko UA
Juan Carlos Gomez CU
Tino Hoffman GE
Donnell Holmes US
Evander Holyfield US
Sultan Ibragimov RU
Wladimir Klitschko UA
Vitaliy Klitschko UA
Luan Krasniqi GE
Sergei Liakhovich Belarus
Oleg Maskaev RU
Mike Mollo US
Oliver McCall US
Kali Meehan Australia
Hasim Rahman US
Samuel Peter NI
Oleg Platov UA
Alexander Povetkin RU
John Ruiz US
Sinan Samil Sam TU
Matt Skelton UK
Tony Thompson US
James Toney US
David Tua NZ
Nicolay Valuev RU
Vladimir Virchis UA
DaVarryll Williamson US



The next list is of countries from which these boxers came from in order:

USA - 14/37 - 38%
Ukraine - 6/37 - 16%
Russia - 5/37 - 14%
Germany - 2/37 - 5%
New Zealand - 2/37 - 5%
Canada - 1/37 - 3%
Uzbekistan - 1/37 - 3%
Cuba - 1/37 - 3%
Belarus - 1/37 - 3%
Australia - 1/37 - 3%
Turkey - 1/37 - 3%
Nigeria - 1/37 - 3%
United Kingdom - 1/37 - 3%

United States holds amost 40% of the Heavyweight pie. What are your views on the future of heavyweight boxing. (USA getting a smaller pie, or larger. International countries getting more involved? or any other feelings.)

Bigcat
07-05-2007, 05:24 PM
It varies, USA ruled for a long while then all of a sudden UK had Herbie Hide, Lennox, Bruno and Akinwande.. Now the Eastern European heavyweights are showing more hunger..

Cuba will have thier day and Nigeria too...

It moves in waves........... USA still have a few but like Jeff Mayweather said United States heavyweights are not producing lazy kids who would rather play computer games than run at 5 am.. Larry and Tyson were driven by the will to strive to become someone.. That hunger is in the Ukraine at the minute..

Brickhaus
07-05-2007, 05:30 PM
You have to think the US will continue to move down in this department. Look at the ages of these guys, and who's there to replace them, and the Americans have to drop. Byrd, Holyfield, Rahman, McCall, Thompson, TOS, Ruiz, Toney - none of those guys have that much time left, and there are only two or three current US heavyweight prospects who look like future top-15 types to replace them.

Bigcat
07-05-2007, 05:34 PM
I would love to see McCall do something with the tale end of his career..

He is one of the toughest heavyweights that i ever saw.........

mykolakozak
07-05-2007, 05:49 PM
I would love to see McCall do something with the tale end of his career..

He is one of the toughest heavyweights that i ever saw.........

He got a chance, his last win was a gift from God, he better use it to benefit his stale career. There aren't that many heavyweights out there that can bulwark against him if he truly put himself into his best action.

Smith
07-05-2007, 06:05 PM
That just shows there is something wrong with the American heavies right now if they hold 36% the total, yet do not have a belt holder or anyone even looking like they will progress to the top. The only good thing for the yanks is, things can only get better

mykolakozak
07-05-2007, 06:22 PM
That just shows there is something wrong with the American heavies right now if they hold 36% the total, yet do not have a belt holder or anyone even looking like they will progress to the top. The only good thing for the yanks is, things can only get better

I think this is an impetuous statement contingent on a very typical American look on everything else. Maybe it's not US thats getting weaker, but that other countries are getting stronger.

Snakefist
07-05-2007, 06:23 PM
That just shows there is something wrong with the American heavies right now if they hold 36% the total, yet do not have a belt holder or anyone even looking like they will progress to the top. The only good thing for the yanks is, things can only get better


The US heavies are all old. No new blood. The Heavy division in regards US has went down hill. No real deal young prospects.... Gunin fell through.... etc etc.

heerko koois
07-05-2007, 06:24 PM
:patsch :patsch :patsch :patsch Yeah he was one hell of a great tough heavyweight................More like one of the biggest freak show of all time.............Maybe he can cry some more in the ring.......This guy is worth a shit.........Who did this dumb monkey ever beat......????
Besides Lewis.....WOW HE'S TOUGH.

:rofl

Snakefist
07-05-2007, 06:26 PM
Yeah he was one hell of a great tough heavyweight................More like one of the biggest freak show of all time.............Maybe he can cry some more in the ring.......This guy is worth a shit.........Who did this dumb monkey ever beat......????
Besides Lewis.....WOW HE'S TOUGH.


Yeah because taking all of Lewis hard shots and not being hurt at all is a sign of not being tough. He has ring toughness in regards to taking damage, don't know about mental toughness.

And why do you have to call him a monkey? Not sure I understand where that applies? He doesn't look like a monkey to me, unless you were making that comment because he is black? Pretty random tbh.

Butch Coolidge
07-05-2007, 06:31 PM
I think this is an impetuous statement contingent on a very typical American look on everything else. Maybe it's not US thats getting weaker, but that other countries are getting stronger.

There's more countries involved in professional boxing now and those particular countries had great amatuer boxing programs at one time. You never know how boxing in the past if Marciano, Lewis etc. had to fight some tough guys from the old CCCP.

Smith
07-05-2007, 06:31 PM
I think this is an impetuous statement contingent on a very typical American look on everything else. Maybe it's not US thats getting weaker, but that other countries are getting stronger.

True :think