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ThePlugInBabies
01-04-2008, 06:05 AM
:shock: hearns has a 4 inch height advantage and must have a fair old reach advantage as well.

gentleman, how does this fight pan out?

rekcutnevets
01-04-2008, 08:50 AM
Hearns has the size and skill to out box, or even ko, Benn. I won't have a problem with people saying he would win.

Benn made it through a war with McClellan, it's not unreasonable to think he couldn't deal with the power of Hearns for a while. Hearns would win most of the rounds, and rock Benn on occasion. Benn would be losing when he'd find Hearns' chin and force a stoppage.

My dinner with Conteh
01-04-2008, 10:06 AM
Hearns has the size and skill to out box, or even ko, Benn. I won't have a problem with people saying he would win.

Benn made it through a war with McClellan, it's not unreasonable to think he couldn't deal with the power of Hearns for a while. Hearns would win most of the rounds, and rock Benn on occasion. Benn would be losing when he'd find Hearns' chin and force a stoppage.


Yep. Got go with this. I don't thinK Tommy's chin would hold up. He has far superior talent of course, but at middleweight was very beatable. I think Benn would invite a brawl and Tommy, being Tommy, would go for it. Benn's chin, while suspect, was stronger at 160 than Hearns' and he was never really beaten in an all-out ding-dong. Benn late TKO 10 (scores: 82-88)

Holmes' Jab
01-04-2008, 01:09 PM
Hearns, UD. Providing he boxes smart.

bxrfan
01-04-2008, 01:35 PM
Benn by mid rounds TKO. I feel he would catch Tommy after Hearns out-boxes him early.

Russell
01-04-2008, 01:45 PM
Hearns has the size and skill to out box, or even ko, Benn. I won't have a problem with people saying he would win.

Benn made it through a war with McClellan, it's not unreasonable to think he couldn't deal with the power of Hearns for a while. Hearns would win most of the rounds, and rock Benn on occasion. Benn would be losing when he'd find Hearns' chin and force a stoppage.

Benn would of been out in round 1 vs. McClellan if the ref hadn't dragged him back into the ring.

All credit where it's due for amazing recroupative abilities, though.

ThePlugInBabies
01-04-2008, 01:57 PM
Benn would of been out in round 1 vs. McClellan if the ref hadn't dragged him back into the ring.

All credit where it's due for amazing recroupative abilities, though.

dragged him back in physically from the ring apron?

or just in general?

if it's the first then i'm fairly sure you get extra time to get back in if you've been knocked out of the ring.

Russell
01-04-2008, 02:06 PM
If I'm remembering correctly he literally grabbed ahold of Benn's arms and helped pull him back into the ring.

True Writer
01-04-2008, 02:17 PM
This fight can not go the distance there are 2 outcomes. Hearns by KO in 1-2 rounds or Benn by KO round 8.

crippet
01-04-2008, 02:20 PM
If I'm remembering correctly he literally grabbed ahold of Benn's arms and helped pull him back into the ring.

Benn was knocked out the ring and got his feet tangled in the cables for the ITV commentary team. They helped untangle him but he got back into the ring alone within the 20 seconds he was allotted.

Many Americans have sadly tried to revise this into meaning he was unfairly helped. He wasn't he won fair and square!

Russell
01-04-2008, 02:24 PM
I've seen plenty of fighters knocked out of the ring and tangled up, they weren't helped out, period.

ThePlugInBabies
01-04-2008, 02:32 PM
If I'm remembering correctly he literally grabbed ahold of Benn's arms and helped pull him back into the ring.

just checked the copy i have and the ref does not in anyway appear to help benn back in the ring. his hands are in the air giving the count.

Smith
01-04-2008, 02:58 PM
I've always thought Benn's boxing skills where vastly underrated, he was never as one dimensional as some people claim, or at least in my opinion. Of course prime for prime Hearns would take this, but Hearns prime was not at 160 pounds, so for me Nigel would snatch the victory here. I watched the DeWitt fight again just before christmas, I think it would play out the same.

Although another part of me says i'm being crazy due to my favourable bias towards Nigel.

ThePlugInBabies
01-04-2008, 03:13 PM
I've always thought Benn's boxing skills where vastly underrated, he was never as one dimensional as some people claim, or at least in my opinion. Of course prime for prime Hearns would take this, but Hearns prime was not at 160 pounds, so for me Nigel would snatch the victory here. I watched the DeWitt fight again just before christmas, I think it would play out the same.

Although another part of me says i'm being crazy due to my favourable bias towards Nigel.

i think 168 nigel is very underestimated when it comes to skill and patience which both improved massively when he moved up, his bob and weave defence was most impressive at times.

when talking about the 160lb version you're basically talking about a madman who went out to the ring every time with the intention of ripping his opponents head off in round one.

Smith
01-04-2008, 03:28 PM
when talking about the 160lb version you're basically talking about a madman who went out to the ring every time with the intention of ripping his opponents head off in round one.:yepHow I wish there was someone like that today.

crippet
01-04-2008, 06:14 PM
I've seen plenty of fighters knocked out of the ring and tangled up, they weren't helped out, period.

Benn wasn't helped out..

commentary team push him away and pulled the cables from him. They could well have pushed him on the floor, they were just protecting their equipment!

The galls me how many Americans change facts to suit their own agenda
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That Benn got up to win proves he would have won a rematch anyway.
Why is there so much need to discredit Benns victory

dpw417
01-04-2008, 07:07 PM
I'm a big Hearns fan...but I'm afraid Benn would have his number. Tommy is winning early, maybe knocks Nigel down for a 5 count...But sooner or later a desperate, raging Nigel Benn would catch up to Hearns...Benn is one dangerous middle/super middle...it would be a great fight.

BUDW
01-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Tommy much better boxer, also has more power Hearns by KO 5

JohnThomas1
01-04-2008, 07:14 PM
I think Hearns has a decent shot at getting him out of there early, but if he doesn't he'll likely lose. Benn's a BIG puncher and quite wild which are both signs for dangerous times. Benn too could be stopped tho and Hearns is the much classier fighter. If Benn has a great chin Tommy would be next to no chance, but it's not that way. I'd install this even money or 7-5 Hearns at the most. I could follow Benn being a slight fave tho.

sugarngold
01-05-2008, 11:27 PM
I would have to lean towards Benn on this as well. Hearns had trouble with seek and destroy punchers - such as Hagler and Barkley. Benn might have been able to find his chin as well - and he certainly had the power to drop him. Could Benn have survived long enough to drop Hearns is the question. What a great fight this would have been!

Sonny Carson
01-05-2008, 11:34 PM
Benn was better at 168. I'm going with Hearns by knockout.