John Fewkes Vs John Murray

[rooq]

I didn't realise this fight had been made...should be happening around April and could be for Murrays WBC youth title as well as his English belt...also it is likely that the winner will become the next mandatory for thaxton's british title.

so what do you reckon?

both fighters are undefeated, but murray has the greater experience and has probably faced better opposition overall, but fewkes has been brought along nicely as well.

completely different styles...murray much more aggressive and a harder puncher. fewkes more skillful but featherfisted - hopefully he won't spend the whole fight running like he did against reid...

i'm leaning towards murray.

[elle]

Looking forward to this one - a genuine match up between two good young prospects.

Am a fan of both but favour Murray to win - just think he is a more rounded fighter overall.

[Big Ears]

I'd have to favour Murray aswell , Fewkes who had been impressive last year didn't look good against Gary Reid in what was a step up for him and his lack of fire power isn't going to help .

I can see Fewkes trying to win a decision by being very elusive and negative('running as some people might put it) and just failing to do so with Murray being able to close the distance and back him up .

Murray by wide decision .

[tommysimmo]

when and where?

[TFFP]

I like Murray, Fewkes is boring as feck

Murray on points easily

[faisal]

both there last performances were disappointing especially murrays, he struggled with a mexican featherweight journeyman, he wasnt able to put him away.its a toss up of who wins this imo, i'd put my money on fewkes as hes mixed it in with better quality fighters and has an akward style,

[elle]

both there last performances were disappointing especially murrays, he struggled with a mexican featherweight journeyman, he wasnt able to put him away.its a toss up of who wins this imo, i'd put my money on fewkes as hes mixed it in with better quality fighters and has an akward style,


I'd have to agree that both their last performances were disappointing by their standards but I don't see why Murray is particularly singled out for criticism when it was his second fight in the space of 4 weeks. The first of which he put in arguably a career best performance against Dean Hickman to capture the English Title.

As for Fewkes mixing it with better quality fighters - apparently Murray has shown himself to be more than capable of holding his own against the likes of Ricky Hatton in sparring.

[Strike]

Go with Murray but either way neither of them are going pasy domestic level.

[brown bomber]

I like Murray he's a better fighter but Fewkes is improving- Its hard to say how far they'll go but Murray seems to be destined for at least euro level I feel. Fewkes I think needs to add a little more to his game but he's not bad either.

[hitman_hatton1]

i favour murray to win.

too forceful.

i wouldn't be stunned if fewkes outboxed him though.

the splinters are sticking in me arsehole here. :yep

[brown bomber]

Fewkes management have commendable confidence in him thats for sure.

[faisal]

I'd have to agree that both their last performances were disappointing by their standards but I don't see why Murray is particularly singled out for criticism when it was his second fight in the space of 4 weeks. The first of which he put in arguably a career best performance against Dean Hickman to capture the English Title.

As for Fewkes mixing it with better quality fighters - apparently Murray has shown himself to be more than capable of holding his own against the likes of Ricky Hatton in sparring.
i single out murray for the obvious reason that hes fought nobody, dean hickman:hey common emma, be serious theres not one single legitamate contender in his magnificent 24 pro fight record, his power isnt that great either considering the opposition hes faced
he could hold his own against Hatton but some how he struggled with a journeyman who fights 2 divisions below his respective weight class intresting

[elle]

i single out murray for the obvious reason that hes fought nobody, dean hickman:hey common emma, be serious theres not one single legitamate contender in his magnificent 24 pro fight record, his power isnt that great either considering the opposition hes faced
he could hold his own against Hatton but some how he struggled with a journeyman who fights 2 divisions below his respective weight class intresting


The point I was making was in response to your original post about both Fewkes and Murray's last performances being disappointing -especially the latters. Just seemed odd to me that you were willing to overlook the fact Fewkes was fighting a guy with more losses on his record than wins yet make NO concession for it being Murray's second fight in a month and out of his comfort zone over in the States.

To be accurate Murray has had 23 fights to date and the mexican he fought hasn't campaigned at 2 divisions below for over 18 months (if the records are correct). Interesting you make no mention of the fact his previous opponent Dean Hickman campaigns at a weight above Murray.

I think his power is respectable - won 3 of his 4 fights during 2007 by TKO. Making his first defence of the English Title against a highly regarded young fighter like Fewkes deserves some credit surely.

Finally Faisal I don't know what to make of your 'common emma' remark but it would appear it is the second time you seem to have mistaken me on the board for another poster.

[rooq]

murrays last performance was poor, and he was lucky to get the decision, but as has been said, it was quite soon after fighting for the english title and against a south american journeyman (who tend to be several times harder to beat than british journeymen with similiar records).

i've only really enjoyed two fewkes performances so far...the one against craig watson and the one against tontchev...the last fight against reid was horrible to watch

[robpalmer135]

Murray needs to step it up a bit, if he wins a fight agaisnt Thaxton he would get a shot at Khan. Surley hats the only fight a British l/w wants at the moment.

[The Lads]

I'd have to favour Murray aswell , Fewkes who had been impressive last year didn't look good against Gary Reid in what was a step up for him and his lack of fire power isn't going to help .
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I reckon john will win too, but Fewkes does hold a good W over Craig Watson current WELTER commonwealth champ! This fight is almost a stone lighter at lightweight!

[faisal]

The point I was making was in response to your original post about both Fewkes and Murray's last performances being disappointing -especially the latters. Just seemed odd to me that you were willing to overlook the fact Fewkes was fighting a guy with more losses on his record than wins yet make NO concession for it being Murray's second fight in a month and out of his comfort zone over in the States.

To be accurate Murray has had 23 fights to date and the mexican he fought hasn't campaigned at 2 divisions below for over 18 months (if the records are correct). Interesting you make no mention of the fact his previous opponent Dean Hickman campaigns at a weight above Murray.

I think his power is respectable - won 3 of his 4 fights during 2007 by TKO. Making his first defence of the English Title against a highly regarded young fighter like Fewkes deserves some credit surely.

Finally Faisal I don't know what to make of your 'common emma' remark but it would appear it is the second time you seem to have mistaken me on the board for another poster.
elle i dont know if you already aware that fewkes record is 15/16-0 hes still a novice, and as for him fighting gary reid, theres a key difference between this journeyman and the featherweight murray beat, reid is a tough fighter his record make no look sparkling but he has some good wins over decent opponents(including a KO over dean hickman) and hes mixed it in and lost to good fighters furthermore hes heavy handed and fights at the same weight class as fewkes, so it was a nice test for fewkes. if murray is to impress me he'd have to knock fewkes out, i'm not really looking foward to this fight as it would probrably involve alot of cliniching and wrestling.
i'm sorry for getting your name muddled i was kind of jet lagged when i wrote the post.

[Big Ears]

I reckon john will win too, but Fewkes does hold a good W over Craig Watson current WELTER commonwealth champ! This fight is almost a stone lighter at lightweight!

Ya I remember that but Craig has improved a lot of late and the man that took the title from Nuumbembe wasn't the same man that lost to Fewkes .

[elle]

elle i dont know if you already aware that fewkes record is 15/16-0 hes still a novice, and as for him fighting gary reid, theres a key difference between this journeyman and the featherweight murray beat, reid is a tough fighter his record make no look sparkling but he has some good wins over decent opponents(including a KO over dean hickman) and hes mixed it in and lost to good fighters furthermore hes heavy handed and fights at the same weight class as fewkes, so it was a nice test for fewkes. if murray is to impress me he'd have to knock fewkes out, i'm not really looking foward to this fight as it would probrably involve alot of cliniching and wrestling.
i'm sorry for getting your name muddled i was kind of jet lagged when i wrote the post.


Yes Faisal I am aware of Fewkes record - as I said in a previous post I am a fan of both fighters.

I agree Gary Reid was a good test for Fewkes but one he only just came through in my honest opinion - he did just about enough.

I really feel there are some double standards here though as although you admit Reid's record is less than sparkling (W13 L18 D1 - lost 3 of last 4 fights) you pick out a win over Dean Hickman as a decent opponent - but no praise for Murray who stopped Hickman quicker and is in a weight division lower than him.

As for the mexican Murray fought in the States - it has already been pointed out by someone else that these guys are much tougher and awkward than our own journeymen. Sorry to keep labouring the point but this was also Murray's second fight in just 28 days!

I think both Fewkes and Murray are real talents and if any other lightweights were facing them would be seen as very credible opponents so this will be an excellent win for one of them.

Apology accepted about the name (again)!

[elle]

Apparently Hennessy have won the purse bids for this fight - will take place on 18th April at the Nottingham Arena.

[rooq]

this has been added to the Froch Inkin undercard at the end of March! decent supporting fight this one.

[Beeston Brawler]

I think Fewkes will win this one.

[dwilson]

It could be a real ******* and I like the look of Fewkes. I've been to a couple of his fights and he always looks so comfortable but still Murray would be my bet to win. Murrays better power will tell.