Ike Ibeabuchi v.s Riddick Bowe

[Bad_Intentions]

both in their prime.

Ibeabuchi KO Bowe 11th round.

[janitor]

Bowe's defence + Ibeabuchi's offence = bad news for Bowe.

And yes I do think that Ibeabuchi is often over rated.

[Bad_Intentions]

Bowe's defence + Ibeabuchi's offence = bad news for Bowe.

And yes I do think that Ibeabuchi is often over rated.yes, even if he's still in jail :rofl

[unitas]

no way. Bowe by UD. beating tua and byrd is one thing. a prime bowe a totally different level of fighter.

[RAMPAGE0017]

Bowe by UD. Bowe's become very underestimated as time has gone on.

[Icemmann]

no way. Bowe by UD. beating tua and byrd is one thing. a prime bowe a totally different level of fighter.
Yeah, only an Elite level fighter like Golota is gonna be able to exploit any flaws he has.

[Stonehands89]

Bowe's best performance was Holyfield I. His conditioning was never as good and never would be again (thanks to Dick Gregory who I just saw this morning walking down the street).

Holyfield outboxed him easily in round 1 but then "got mad" and wanted to knock him out. Bowe was too much that night...his athleticism, size, and level of skill was unmatched by any man of comparable size in my opinion.

Ibeabuchi combined a style similar to Holyfield with the enhanced strength and power of Golota... both of whom were dangerous to Bowe. I think he may have knocked Bowe out.

[rekcutnevets]

Holyfield and Golata showed what usually bothered Bowe. A good jab, and some movement. Bowe had a long, strong jab; but it wasn't always straight to the point. Their timing was better with their jabs. They also moved in and out, and threw quick combinations. If Ibeabuchi fought like that, he would bother Bowe.

I never saw him fight that way. I saw him use constant pressure, a lots of activity. He was strong, and had a chance of beating Bowe. He also plays into Bowes hands by wanting to be on the inside all the time. Bowe was at his best on the inside. That is where he wanted to fight> His uppercut would find its mark on Ibeabuchi a lot of the time. In his prime, which was the first two Holyfield fights( I know he was overweight in #2 but he still out threw Evander), Bowe showed he was capable of having a rather high output on offense. Bowe also showed he had an incredible heart against Golata the second time. He kept getting up for more.

I'll give Big Daddy the nod here. Bowe by decision. 7-5 in rounds, but coming off the floor at some point. 114-113 Bowe

[doublesuited]

Bowe shuts Ike out. 12-0.

[Muchmoore]

Bowe wins by clear UD 8-4

[Asterion]

Bowe could defeat most boxers, if they are smaller than him. He used the size advantage, he's a Super heavyweight. A smaller boxer will only beat him if they have enough skill to outbox him (Holyfield could have calmed down and possibly done it).

Against fighters that are relatively skilled and bigger than him, Bowe loses.

PS: Why below it says "Last edited by Amsterdam: 02-18-2006 at..."...????? :blood

[Muchmoore]

Bowe could defeat most boxers, if they are smaller than him. He used the size advantage, he's a Super heavyweight. A smaller boxer will only beat him if they have enough skill to outbox him (Holyfield could have calmed down and possibly done it).

Against fighters that are relatively skilled and bigger than him, Bowe loses.

Why

Tubbs wasnt bigger than Bowe though.

[Holmes' Jab]

Bowe, by UD. No way was Ike as good as Golota- he was pretty overhyped to be fair.

[JohnThomas1]

Whilst i think Ike is overrated due to obvious reasons i think he might take Bowe out. His ability to take a punch means Bowe is almost definitely not stopping him. By contrast Ike has the superb stamina and big punch to concievably seal the deal in the mid to latter rounds. Ike TKO 9

[Ted Stickles]

Ike would have beaten him,Ike had a solid chin,great stamina,and was very aggressive..Who knows If Bowe would have even fought him anyway because he stayed away from really big punchers

[Titan1]

Like mentioned before, Bowe is on another level, and Ike wouldn't be able to deal with it.Bowe wins UD Ibeabuchi, with Riddick winning 9 out of 12 rounds.

[Brighton bomber]

Ibeabuchi isn't Holyfield despite many people comparing the two. Holyfield was quicker, threw better combinations and had a better jab. I see Ibeabuchi giving Bowe a tough fight mainly due to Bowe's desire to trade but Bowe earns a decision 8 rounds to 4.

[Xplosive]

Prime Bowe beats the shit outta Ike! Honestly Ike is one of history's most overrated fighers. He LOST the Tua fight for Christ sake, I dont care what the judges say.

Bowe would tear him up on the inside with those uppercuts of his, and I see Ike getting stopped in the late going.

I cant phathom how some people think Ike could beat a prime Bowe, and a prime Tyson off of getting a gift decision to Tua.

[mr. magoo]

Bowe might take a decision, and in truth should probably be slightly favored due to a more proven history against the better men, but he'd have to take a hell of a beating to get there, and he'd also have to be at his very best.. I can't see the man who fought Andrew Golata beating Ike, but I might be able to see the man who beat Evander Holyfield barely pulling it off.

[Foreman Hook]

Crazy Ike is a fucking H2H Monster - BUT 1992 Bowe take close UD VS 1997 Ike.

[Xplosive]

Crazy Ike is a fucking H2H Monster - BUT 1992 Bowe take close UD VS 1997 Ike.

Based on losing to Tua?

This shoulda been a Bowe vs Tua thread instead.

I swear the myth of Ike is something ridiculous.

[Foreman Hook]

Based on losing to Tua?

This shoulda been a Bowe vs Tua thread instead.

I swear the myth of Ike is something ridiculous.

my scorecards had Tua winning teh decision by 2 points - so i was kinda shocked when Ike got teh Decision.

BUT - v.few ATG Heavys beat teh 1996 Or 1997 Tuaman IMO - so there No-shame in losing a v.close WAR to him.

[MagnaNasakki]

Bowe.

Ike is crazy overrated. He has a great chin, but besides having that, all he did for 12 rounds to defeat Tua is work. I saw nothing besides toughness and stamina that I would deem great in Ike. I do mean that.

Bowe, while not the greatest heavyweight, DID have great boxing talents and some great skills. He can more than keep up with Ike as a fighter, and prime for prime, Ike's advantage in toughness and stamina doesn't come into play enough for him to make a grab at the fight.

[Vanboxingfan]

I'd go with Bowe but it would depend on his ability to take a punch.

I suspect Ike has a stronger chin, so a toe to toe inside punch up would likely favor Bowe in terms of landing punches, but since somethings going to be coming back at him, he has to be able to not just give, but to receive. He did show that against Holyfield, but Ike likely hits harder.

[lefthook31]

I dont think Ike is overated, he only had 20 or so fights, but he showed the grit and chin to hang in with an active Tua, and the handspeed, power and patience to catch Chris Byrd. I dont think he was polished enough to compete with Bowe at his best yet, but he sure showed a ton of potential. Certainly more than what weve seen in a long time and he had those certain intangibles that would have given the Klitschkos nightmares if they couldnt hold him at bay. He just wasnt a finished fighter when he went nuts but he was looking like a very good prospect.

[Prince]

my scorecards had Tua winning teh decision by 2 points - so i was kinda shocked when Ike got teh Decision.

BUT - v.few ATG Heavys beat teh 1996 Or 1997 Tuaman IMO - so there No-shame in losing a v.close WAR to him.

For fuck sakes..it's spelt "The"

And if you truly believe that..you're a sad, sad man.

[MagnaNasakki]

I dont think Ike is overated, he only had 20 or so fights, but he showed the grit and chin to hang in with an active Tua, and the handspeed, power and patience to catch Chris Byrd. I dont think he was polished enough to compete with Bowe at his best yet, but he sure showed a ton of potential. Certainly more than what weve seen in a long time and he had those certain intangibles that would have given the Klitschkos nightmares if they couldnt hold him at bay. He just wasnt a finished fighter when he went nuts but he was looking like a very good prospect.

Prospect, yes. I do agree, he had a ton of upside.

But seeing as he never got to any of it, and guarantee's don't exist in boxing, he doesn't get credit from me for the ATGness he never showed.

[he grant]

Bowe's defence + Ibeabuchi's offence = bad news for Bowe.

And yes I do think that Ibeabuchi is often over rated.

Based on what ? The guy took the best of the best Tua ever. He showed an incredible chin and the ability to go a fast twelve under very tough conditions ... he also showed the speed, timing and discipline to KO a prime Byrd, not jab him to death like the Klits but to flatten him ... I feel Ike was an exceptional talent that was wasted. His wasted talent was a huge loss for boxing.

[lefthook31]

Prospect, yes. I do agree, he had a ton of upside.

But seeing as he never got to any of it, and guarantee's don't exist in boxing, he doesn't get credit from me for the ATGness he never showed.
He showed me a lot in the Byrd fight. He showed patience and showed what he could do when he put the right punches together. He was close. I heard he was struggling a lot with mobile boxers in the gym though. His stablemate Kirk Johnson was giving him a lot of trouble.

[hookfromhell]

BoweUD PrimeBowesboxing skills and finesse enable Bowe to
dominate on the outside and inside

[sinol]

riddick bowe wins....riddick is proven....ike only beat tua/byrd....

[sauhund II]

riddick bowe wins....riddick is proven....ike only beat tua/byrd....
Correct.

He went life and death with the One trick Pony Tua........who was outboxed by ATG's Jeff Wooden, Glasschin Oleg and punching bag Izon......and still the fight could have gone either way, a Tua win would have been totally acceptable.

He looked foolish aginst Byrd and if Byrd would have shown him more respect instead of clowning around trying to be cute on the ropes he would have been handed his first loss.

Just look at some of his earlier fights against Tomatoecans.......he looks very.very ordinary.

IMO , he would have been the typical ABC beltholder and get beaten by the prime talent.......and Bowe was definetly a prime talent, short time span , yes, but incredible potential .

[lufcrazy]

Ike is far too overrated.

He outworked tua and blasted out a cocky byrd.

Two top contenders, granted, but it's only two performances of note.

Bowe will push his shit in on the inside.

[Azzer85]

All i can say, this fight would have been well worth the money!!!!!

Then again Ike didnt fight anybody like Bowe.

Bowe isnt a fat, slow plod plod Tua

Very interesting fight IMO

[Bummy Davis]

Bowe had a terrible defense as shown by Golota and others but Ike to me is not really proven, he had a nice victory over Byrd and a close fight over Tua to prove he could take it, although I think Tua edged it. I would not be surprised if IKE wins and would lean towards him but also would not be surprised if Bowe takes the UD