Calzaghe-Kessler still not signed.... Coincidence? [Archive]

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 07:59 PM

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 08:05 PM

The fight isn't signed for one reason alone - Palle's wondering where the fuck he's getting 5.5 million to pay Calzaghe and his team for.

Then screw them! He can't stump up the cash so forget them... what's 2 weeks when we've waited months for an announcement? Joe's last fight was 3-4 months ago - another 2 weeks will make no difference. There's more money in a Hopkins fight - HBO will help out for sure - more interest in the States etc... I'd prefer this fight also and not because I think Kessler's a bigger risk.

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 08:08 PM

Maybe if Winky wins he'd come back in November at the earliest, but seriously, BHop won't fight again this year. And fuckin Joe C put in a couple rounds April 7th, this ordeal is horseshit and if PBF-Hatton gets made and Cotto-Margarito too then HBO has Joe by the balls because they don't need him at that point.

Bollocks! You think they wouldn't be interested in a Calzaghe vs Winky/Hopkins fight?

Korn_06

07-05-2007, 08:33 PM

The fight isn't signed for one reason alone - Palle's wondering where the fuck he's getting 5.5 million to pay Calzaghe and his team for.
:patsch:patsch:patsch

Bad Blood

07-05-2007, 08:43 PM

I wouldn't be surprise if Calzaghe/Veit 3 is in the works. Joe continues to avoid the big fights.

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 08:48 PM

I wouldn't be surprise if Calzaghe/Veit 3 is in the works. Joe continues to avoid the big fights.

Horse-shit - they tried to make the Kessler fight happen but Palle couldn't put the money together... Hopkins signed a deal, then pulled out. Calzaghe made noises about fighting Taylor but as soon as he looked crap, they stopped chasing him and went after Kessler.

What else are the supposed to do? Pavlik's after Taylor.... Hopkins and Wright are tied up... where else should he turn? Mundine?

Bad Blood

07-05-2007, 08:54 PM

Horse-shit - they tried to make the Kessler fight happen but Palle couldn't put the money together... Hopkins signed a deal, then pulled out. Calzaghe made noises about fighting Taylor but as soon as he looked crap, they stopped chasing him and went after Kessler.

What else are the supposed to do? Pavlik's after Taylor.... Hopkins and Wright are tied up... where else should he turn? Mundine?

Calzaghe has been trying (so he says) to fight a big name for years. Yet some thing always comes up. And it's never his fault. Bullshit. If I remember correctly the man had signed to fight Glen Johnson twice. And both times pulled out.

compukiller

07-05-2007, 08:56 PM

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 09:02 PM

Calzaghe has been trying (so he says) to fight a big name for years. Yet some thing always comes up. And it's never his fault. Bullshit. If I remember correctly the man had signed to fight Glen Johnson twice. And both times pulled out.

Are you saying Glen Johnson is a "big name"???? Come on, listen to yourself!! :rofl Johnson beat a shot RJJ and....... erm... held a couple of alphabet titles briefly. Joe's beaten a few of those already. An FYI, if a guy is injured and can't throw a punch let alone fight for 12 rounds, throwing away his potential earnings for the fight, is that unwise? Especially against Johnson.

And yes, he also postponed the Lacy fight because he was so petrified.

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 09:02 PM

:yep

Don't know what you're nodding at bum features

Bad Blood

07-05-2007, 09:18 PM

Are you saying Glen Johnson is a "big name"???? Come on, listen to yourself!! :rofl Johnson beat a shot RJJ and....... erm... held a couple of alphabet titles briefly. Joe's beaten a few of those already. An FYI, if a guy is injured and can't throw a punch let alone fight for 12 rounds, throwing away his potential earnings for the fight, is that unwise? Especially against Johnson.

And yes, he also postponed the Lacy fight because he was so petrified.
Glen Johnson was a live threat. He wasn't some bum like the ones Calzaghe loves to fight (Ashira, Manfredo, Salem, my god the list goes on and on). I think Joe knew he couldn't beat Johnson so decided not to go through with the fight. Calzaghe didn't want to lose to a non big name like Johnson.

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 09:27 PM

Glen Johnson was a live threat. He wasn't some bum like the ones Calzaghe loves to fight (Ashira, Manfredo, Salem, my god the list goes on and on). I think Joe knew he couldn't beat Johnson so decided not to go through with the fight. Calzaghe didn't want to lose to a non big name like Johnson.

And what does Johnson bring to the table that none of the other Calzaghe victims don't have that would beat him?

China_hand_Joe

07-05-2007, 09:31 PM

And what does Johnson bring to the table that none of the other Calzaghe victims don't have that would beat him?Johnson has lost to B-Hop and Ottke, Calzaghe victims have only been robbed by Sven.

Bad Blood

07-05-2007, 09:32 PM

n is a And what does Johnson bring to the table that none of the other Calzaghe victims don't have that would beat him?

Johnson is a lot better fighter than some of the bums Joe has faced (Bika, Mkrtchian, Veit, Pudwill. Again the list goes on and on). And he's not shot like Charles Brewer, Byron Mitchell and Eubanks were.

China_hand_Joe

07-05-2007, 09:34 PM

"Some of"

PrideOfWales

07-05-2007, 09:39 PM

"Some of"

Yes... I would read into this that Bad Blood thinks that Johnson is not as good as all of Calzaghe's victims. :huh Seems slightly contradictory

Bad Blood

07-05-2007, 10:03 PM

Yes... I would read into this that Bad Blood thinks that Johnson is not as good as all of Calzaghe's victims. :huh Seems slightly contradictory

Than that means you can't read. Johnson is pretty much better than any one Calzaghe has faced. Which is why Calzaghe decided not to go along with fighting him.

Terrible Terry

07-05-2007, 11:41 PM

Calzaghe would destroy Glenn Johnson, Joe is way to quick for the plodding Johnson. Glenn is a solid fighter but not world class, he just makes BHOP's record look a little more glossy because he stopped him. Calzaghe would box circles around Johnson, if you lay on him Johnson is good but if you move (like
Calzaghe) he is in big trouble. If he didn't KO Roy Jones no body would know who the hell Glenn Johnson is.

jahobe

07-06-2007, 12:18 AM

Horse-shit - they tried to make the Kessler fight happen but Palle couldn't put the money together... Hopkins signed a deal, then pulled out. Calzaghe made noises about fighting Taylor but as soon as he looked crap, they stopped chasing him and went after Kessler.

What else are the supposed to do? Pavlik's after Taylor.... Hopkins and Wright are tied up... where else should he turn? Mundine?

for his legacy, the biggest fight is kessler, the no 1 undefeated challenger in his division, i think if he takes on winky or hopkins calzaghe has a better chance of winning compared to taking on kessler.

and why not turn to mundine the no 3 in his division, it would be another belt for him

Bad Blood

07-06-2007, 12:34 AM

Faetter_BR

07-06-2007, 01:16 AM

The fight isn't signed for one reason alone - Palle's wondering where the fuck he's getting 5.5 million to pay Calzaghe and his team for.

You keep making your self look like a moron - Hans Henrik Palm has garantied that he would make the fight under Palle's terms if needed - Hans Henrik Palm who just bought a tower of the national arena (Parken) for 24 million $ - I'm fairly sure he can come up with 5,5M :)

Palle's offer stil stands - it's ****** that can't decide - so stop with the down right lies!

Faetter_BR

07-06-2007, 01:23 AM

I doubt very much that Calzaghe can find a fight anywhere that will pay him 5,5M - if he wants Hopkins/Wright/Taylor/Pavlik, then he will have to take a paycut... And I doubt he will want to do that.

It must be a bit irritating for Calzaghe that young Hatton is now making twice what Calzaghe will ever make - mainly because he broke with ****** and took the chance in the US - build a name and now people wants him to fight Mayweather...

CarltonBlues

07-06-2007, 03:05 AM

It must be a bit irritating for Calzaghe that young Hatton is now making twice what Calzaghe will ever make - mainly because he broke with ****** and took the chance in the US - build a name and now people wants him to fight Mayweather...

It's Joe's own fault, he should have realized years ago that ****** can't get the big fights signed.

brooklyn1550

07-06-2007, 03:07 AM

Kessler is the most important fight right now for Calzaghe's legacy

Decebal

07-06-2007, 03:48 AM

Kessler is the most important fight right now for Calzaghe's legacy

Damn right! This is because it is the only fight that can redeem Joe.

Amsterdam

07-06-2007, 03:49 AM

Damn right! This is because it is the only fight that can redeem Joe.

The great one needs redeeming?:think

Lance_Uppercut

07-06-2007, 03:59 AM

No, a career of "nobodies" and "who's that?" while his contemporaries forge greatness leaves Joe with a stellar career.

Amsterdam

07-06-2007, 04:01 AM

No, a career of "nobodies" and "who's that?" while his contemporaries forge greatness leaves Joe with a stellar career.

You have no respect for the supernatural.:deal

Lance_Uppercut

07-06-2007, 04:12 AM

You have no respect for the supernatural.:deal

If the supernatural puts these two gents in the ring, I'll have full respect.:deal

I grew weary of waiting for Joe C to make a statement. It's ridiculous he never fought Beyer or Ottke, regardless of who's fault it was. Fights with Woods and Johnson both fell apart as well. Certainly you cannot be completely satisfied with Joe's career to this point.

DonPrestige

07-06-2007, 04:36 AM

Joe should have realised a long time ago he needed to step up his resume of talent. How he thought that Manfredo fight would go down amazes me. The worst thing was when Manfredo got in the ring he looked like a child. Too bad Frank ****** continues to massage his ego while prostituting hi for all the money he can get.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 04:47 AM

The biggest problem in Calzaghe's career has been Frank ******. This is what happens when you run a boxer's career like a business - minimising the risk maximising the profit.

This is to certain degree also true for Kessler's career, who let's Palle make the overall decisions, and when you put Palle and ****** together, then you know they will fight like crazy for every penny. I blame those two fuck-heads for this mess.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 05:40 AM

i said the jury is out on kessler, and could make a case of the smae thing about joe, it seems as if he has realized that he needs those big names..

I agree. But this is a very crucial point in Kessler's career. Either he fights Calzaghe, and win or lose, it will be a great fight for him, where he will make himself known to boxingfans all over the world, and from then on, he will get the big fights if he wants them.

On the other hand, if this fight falls through, and he fights Mundine again (yawn), then we might have to wait several years until he gets to prove himself bigtime.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 05:58 AM

He'd have beaten them with the silly stick.

Exactly and that's why it's too bad it never happenen. I think Calzaghe is a great fighter, but it's annoying that these fights didn't happen. It leaves questionsmarks and it's obvious that Beyer and Otke were content not fighting Joe.

Now he wants to secure his legacy by fighting the best, but it seems like he could have done so earlier on.

For me this is about wasted potential because Joe has been too catious. (Or ****** has been to greedy)

Kessler is a chance to prove him as a an ATG, but IMO it's to late - now Kessler will take over...

grayggr

07-06-2007, 05:58 AM

It's that same old Frank ****** smell all over this I'm afraid. He stifled Hatton's career until Denis Hobson let Hatton spread his wings, I really think Joe needs to get away from ****** and perhaps join up with Frank Maloney or another decent British promoter such as Hobson.

How many times have we seen fights fall through with ******???? More than any other promoter I would guess although I dont have the figures. The man is sniffing round Hatton's pants even as we speak trying to cement Hatton's legacy by setting up a stellar clash against.......Souleymane M'baye!!! :patsch:patsch.

Please Frank.... just let your fighters off the leash, for boxing's sake.

I hope ****** ties this deal up, and I'll be more than happy to be proved wrong.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 06:05 AM

i dont think its that crucial for kesslers career right now.. he has time on his hands, he is 28 and will have at least 4 good years in him...

Maybe I'm just being impatient on Mikkel's behalf, because I feel that he's ready now;)

From a tactical point of view it would make sense to wait a couple of years and then fight Joie in his declining years, but hell no, that mindset has been customary in this division for too long!

Korn_06

07-06-2007, 06:09 AM

The last thing I heard was that Palle is on vacation, that was about 2 weeks ago. It seemed that ****** wanted a shot at making this fight in Wales in september and apparently he has met Palles demands for doing so.

Unfortunately ****** after finishing the tug of war with Palle he has started another one with HBO. As far as I can understand then, both the money and the time is wrong. I am sure as soon as ****** atemt to hold the fight in wales in September fall through, then Palle will stick to his original offer of a November fight in Copenhagen.

Nomatter how hard I try then I can not really see what it is that Palle did wrong here.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 09:19 AM

but I think the silence is a good thing. It looks like they're just hammering everything into place.

:lol: Yeah, like two small busy bees.

I hope so, considering that everytime ****** and Palle open their mouths, it's to badmouth or just whine about the other part in some way...

PolishPummler

07-06-2007, 10:39 AM

I don't think Kessler is worth as much to Joe's legacy as Taylor/Pavlik/Hopkins/Wright/Dawson would be - if a deal with Kessler can't be made, there are other options for Joe.

Here's a thought for you: BHop fights Winky in about 2 weeks time. It maybe time for ****** (if he hasn't already) to stop screwing around with the dithering Palle and wait 2 weeks and make a deal with the winner of Hopkins/Wright... it's only 2 weeks away and they've been trying to thrash a Calzaghe/Kessler deal for what seems like months!

Joe won't be fighting until September/October/November next so that leaves plenty of time for Bernard or Ronald to recover. Maybe this was in the back of ******'s mind all along? Whatever, I for one would prefer Calzaghe vs Hopkins or Wright... Kessler's young, he can wait - let him build up a bigger name, then the fight will be worth more.

Both Pavlik and Dawson are new on the scene and still fairly unknown.If it is legacy you are complaining about why fight either of these 2 at this point.

Hopkins and Wright are locked up and really arent interested in fighting Joe.

All of the mentioned above dont even fight in the same weight class as Joe.

Kessler vs Calzaghe not only makes the most sense but it would be the most interesting.The pre fight hype is already built up.

deram

07-06-2007, 11:05 AM

Imo. the upside of Kessler and some of the other possiblities are pretty similar - granted. HOWEVER - the downside of NOT fighting Kessler is far .. FAR! .. greater than it is of not fighting anyone of the others.

Therefore overall, the Kessler fight makes the most sense for Joe in legacy terms.

ChuckYoungblood

07-06-2007, 11:08 AM

The pre fight hype is already built up.

It's built alright:D

Maybe ****** and palle have been playing us like all along, but I doubt that these two knuckleheads could do that.

henrik

07-06-2007, 01:46 PM

blocky for fuck sake!!! were do you get that bullshit from??? Mogens Palle and hans henrik palm got the money,you can be sure about that!!!
what the fuck do you think it is??? a candystore???when palle makes a 5,5mill
purse,then he got the cash!

van the man

07-06-2007, 01:55 PM

1lehudson

07-06-2007, 02:41 PM

I for one, no longer hold much hope for this fight. It now appears that the two camps are looking to make HBO the fall guy. It just seems like neither one of these guys is all that interested in this fight.

C.J.Rock

07-06-2007, 02:53 PM

I wouldn't be surprise if Calzaghe/Veit 3 is in the works. Joe continues to avoid the big fights.

Youre not really that dumb are ya??????? Its the Dithering Dane thats yet to sign maybe his ass cant cash the checks his mouth writes :admin :admin :yikes :yikes :hi: :hi:

C.J.Rock

07-06-2007, 03:03 PM

apparently kessler followed the situation sorounding hte fight with joe and lacy.. personally i cant remember the exact scenario for joe vs lacy, but think it was postponed due to joes injury and there were other troubles making the fight as well..

mikkle wrote a letter to lacy, and said, he understood it was a hard fight for lacy to get and that if lacy was interested in having a unification fight with him, instead of joe, kessler was ready..

people tend to forget, that this is the actions of a man, willing to fight anyone.. kessler didnt have to do anything, but felt that, at the time lacy was getting the run-around.. and simply put it, challenged him and offered him a fight..

Kesslers ass cant cash the checks his mouth writes He TALKS a good fight:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :deal :deal :deal

Jambon

07-06-2007, 03:49 PM

What amazes me is how the Calzague fans are in fact releived the fight might not happen. There even more wetpants then there idol.

PrideOfWales

07-06-2007, 03:50 PM

What amazes me is how the Calzague fans are in fact releived the fight might not happen. There even more wetpants then there idol.

Learn to spell before spouting your trash

Jambon

07-06-2007, 03:56 PM

Learn to spell before spouting your trash

Its just the thrash you have all been saying for months that i am throwing back in your face. I may not spell right in english, but i can read. And i have been reading you for months.

Come on, admit it, you dont want this fight. You will be releived if it does not happens and you will support any excuses for Joe and FW not to make the fight.

PrideOfWales

07-06-2007, 04:08 PM

Its just the thrash you have all been saying for months that i am throwing back in your face. I may not spell right in english, but i can read. And i have been reading you for months.

Come on, admit it, you dont want this fight. You will be releived if it does not happens and you will support any excuses for Joe and FW not to make the fight.

I am a boxing fan first and foremost and just want to see my hometown boy in exciting fights. The problem for me is that Kessler is a good solid boxer and the fight would be pretty boring. I've seen Joe get off the canvas and brawl as if his life depended on it - I've seen him stand toe to toe with big punchers and I've seen him box rings round people. If the Kessler fight doesn't come off and he fights the boxers I've listed above, I'll be very happy - if the Kessler fights somehow works out, I'll still be happy but not overly excited by it. If the Kessler fight falls through and he fights any other SMW, I will be extremely disappointed.

Win, lose or draw, Calzaghe has nothing to prove to me as I'll always be a fan of his exciting style. I would just like to see him in exciting fights because at the end of the day, he hasn't got many left. That answer you?

Jambon

07-06-2007, 04:16 PM

I am a boxing fan first and foremost and just want to see my hometown boy in exciting fights. The problem for me is that Kessler is a good solid boxer and the fight would be pretty boring. I've seen Joe get off the canvas and brawl as if his life depended on it - I've seen him stand toe to toe with big punchers and I've seen him box rings round people. If the Kessler fight doesn't come off and he fights the boxers I've listed above, I'll be very happy - if the Kessler fights somehow works out, I'll still be happy but not overly excited by it. If the Kessler fight falls through and he fights any other SMW, I will be extremely disappointed.

Win, lose or draw, Calzaghe has nothing to prove to me as I'll always be a fan of his exciting style. I would just like to see him in exciting fights because at the end of the day, he hasn't got many left. That answer you?

Well. i firmly beleive a fight opposing Kessler and Calzague would be exiting and is a must for the division. Among the list of opponents i feel Dawson and Pavlik should be taken out. So is Hopkins if he loses to Wright, or he will again inspire nothing but critics if he does that fight.

Bad Blood

07-06-2007, 11:41 PM

Ottke wanted no part of Joe and retired before the issue could be forced.

Not sure about Beyer, truth be told. maybe Amsterdam knows why that never came off. Furthermore, you're not going to tell me that either of those would have been losses for Joe surely? He'd have beaten them with the silly stick.

Woods - well, it's not really a fight I'm interested in. but given the problems Woods had with RJJ, since Joe moves as fast, I just see him becoming a punch-bag.

Johnson - he'd be interesting, but considering Joe was injured each time (including while going through a terrible divorce) it's not a shock it never came off. Don't think Joe ducked him, as such as he'd easily beat him. Johnson wasn't a name again till fighting Tarver and Jones Jr - so not sure why you make out it's a legacy fight. Johnson's a journeyman, and a damn good one, but no legend.

There's a point questioning Joe's competition, but it's the same old, same old. yes, he's fought bums - much like most champions have (how many of BHop's opponenets were less than stellar, but you don't give him the same shit?) but he's given his best performances against his best opposition.

Brewer - a good fighter. he wasn't shot - to be shot you need to display:
- reduced mobility
- difficulty getting your shots off
- diminished punch resistance

Brewer, like Eubank and Mitchell, displayed none of those things. Sheika certainly wasn't shot and was a pretty good fighter - same for Woodhall, who was a damn good boxer. Reid wasn't shot (oh, controverial decison, they cry - it wasn't: Joe won). So, five out of 20 so far...

Lacy, Veit (who wasn't amazing, but was undefeated at that time except for his losses to Joe) and we're at 7.

None of whom were shot, I add again.

7 out of 20 isn't excellent, but most champions now don't fight many genuine live opponents - preferring tomato cans. His resume isn't brilliant, but there's been worse. And unlike Ottke, at least the decisions for Joe have always been the right ones.

You got to be fucking kidding me. Brewer had 8 losses by the time he faced Calzaghe. He was indeed shot. Not only that but Brewer was never even a great fighter. He was just decent. Eubanks and Mitchell were also shot. Veit was and to this day still remains garbage. Only Calzaghe groupies try to convince themselves they're not.

Axe

07-06-2007, 11:58 PM

I don't think Kessler is worth as much to Joe's legacy as Taylor/Pavlik/Hopkins/Wright/Dawson would be - if a deal with Kessler can't be made, there are other options for Joe.

Here's a thought for you: BHop fights Winky in about 2 weeks time. It maybe time for ****** (if he hasn't already) to stop screwing around with the dithering Palle and wait 2 weeks and make a deal with the winner of Hopkins/Wright... it's only 2 weeks away and they've been trying to thrash a Calzaghe/Kessler deal for what seems like months!

Joe won't be fighting until September/October/November next so that leaves plenty of time for Bernard or Ronald to recover. Maybe this was in the back of ******'s mind all along? Whatever, I for one would prefer Calzaghe vs Hopkins or Wright... Kessler's young, he can wait - let him build up a bigger name, then the fight will be worth more.

Calzaghe now has a solid offer from Dawson on the table as well.

If he refuses to face either Kessler or Chad Dawson then we'll know what's up. :nod

Axe

07-07-2007, 12:00 AM

You got to be fucking kidding me. Brewer had 8 losses by the time he faced Calzaghe. He was indeed shot. Not only that but Brewer was never even a great fighter. He was just decent. Eubanks and Mitchell were also shot. Veit was and to this day still remains garbage. Only Calzaghe groupies try to convince themselves they're not.

Mitchell was not shot, just faded a tad and coming off a loss.

Eubanks was not shot either per se, but he had only a week or two to prepare for the fight, and was badly weightdrained. So far from his peak form, to say the least.

DanePugilist

07-07-2007, 12:15 AM

1lehudson

07-07-2007, 12:25 AM

What a useless OP - lol. Yes, sure Pavlik would do more for JCs legacy, haha.

Some people are just plain dumb or are very bored. The only thing that would do anything for JCs legacy would be removing those in his own division - not hunting people of lower weightclasses, then move up.

Nonetheless, Kessler will win, but it would still add to JCs legacy.Did you miss the memo???? Pavlik is the greatest fighter since......OM........Well he is the greatest fighter in a long time. After he beat Mirada who had never been knocked down or never lost a fight that instanly made Pavlik p4p king:hey

What a load of sh8t, but its a load that I called. Dont get me wrong Kelly is a helluva fighter and would push any and every fighter out there from middleweight to lt heavyweight, but going from the ONE win he isnt a great fighter by any means. Im not sure how it is in Europe, but here in the states White American want soooo bad to have a top white fighter that they will hitch thier wagon to anyone that looks as if they might have any shot at becoming a top fighter. All I will say is Remember Mesi???

DanePugilist

07-07-2007, 01:37 AM

Did you miss the memo???? Pavlik is the greatest fighter since......OM........Well he is the greatest fighter in a long time. After he beat Mirada who had never been knocked down or never lost a fight that instanly made Pavlik p4p king:hey

What a load of sh8t, but its a load that I called. Dont get me wrong Kelly is a helluva fighter and would push any and every fighter out there from middleweight to lt heavyweight, but going from the ONE win he isnt a great fighter by any means. Im not sure how it is in Europe, but here in the states White American want soooo bad to have a top white fighter that they will hitch thier wagon to anyone that looks as if they might have any shot at becoming a top fighter. All I will say is Remember Mesi???Haha, yeah I must have missed that memo that Pride of Wales is in possession of.

And I too find Pavlik to be a good fighter, no doubt - its not that, but at this point he won't do more for Calzaghes legacy than removing Kessler as his biggest an most immediate threat.

I don't think we have any racial issues in boxing or any other sport in Europe, but just enjoy skills - whether they are white, black, brown, yellow, green or blue. Then again I wouldn't know, but I don't know anyone who has issues with this.

The only thing that I have heard of is - in football where the opposition crowd have made "monkey sounds" to the black star players. However, I don't really categorize it as a racial problem - more bashing out on the opposition stars, and since we do have racial issues outside sports, there will be people doing this kind of nonsense seemingly - but I have never thought it a problem in sports.

Amsterdam

07-07-2007, 01:45 AM

All of you biased bastards are racists, racist against Welsh-Italians.:bart

DanePugilist

07-07-2007, 01:50 AM

All of you biased bastards are racists, racist against Welsh-Italians.:bartYeah Anglo-Amled Kessler>Welsh-Italians...

China_hand_Joe

07-07-2007, 03:45 AM

I don't care whether the fight happens or not anymore.

Decebal

07-07-2007, 04:41 AM

I don't care whether the fight happens or not anymore.

It pains me to say this, but neither do I, anymore...:-(

Decebal

07-07-2007, 04:42 AM

The great one [Joe Calzaghe] needs redeeming?:think

Oh, yes!:deal

....And I thought we all knew that Joe himself thought so too!:good

ChuckYoungblood

07-07-2007, 06:47 AM

All of you biased bastards are racists, racist against Welsh-Italians.:bart

:good Yeah, nobody like those arrogant pricks.
Joe is okay though. But the rest is scum!

ChuckYoungblood

07-07-2007, 06:56 AM

It pains me to say this, but neither do I, anymore...:-(

I hear you, but try and stay away from this forum for a week, and then you want to get back to our favorite soap opera - "Days of the stubborn", with the subtitle: Are they all liars?

I've read basically the same posts for a couple of month now, same oppinions and accusations over and over, but still I go through every new Joe-Mikkel thread, waiting for something new - what is wrong with me?:patsch

Decebal

07-07-2007, 07:02 AM

I hear you, but try and stay away from this forum for a week, and then you want to get back to our favorite soap opera - "Days of the stubborn", with the subtitle: Are they all liars?

I've read basically the same posts for a couple of month now, same oppinions and accusations over and over, but still I go through every new Joe-Mikkel thread, waiting for something new - what is wrong with me?:patsch

:lol: mate...I'm an addict! But I've hit rock bottom and have stopped giving a damn...almost...