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sean
01-05-2008, 08:04 PM
witherspoon v releford

is this live ?
on my screen it is just starting but i am not sure if i am getting it on delay

sean
01-05-2008, 08:08 PM
both orthodox
releford a very small heavyweight
looks like a cruiser.

battle of single jabs to start round 1

releford decent handspeed

both fighters taking alook in round 1
nothing in it.

round 1 even feeling out round

thats if its live ?

sean
01-05-2008, 08:13 PM
10/10 first round.

round 2/

withersppon 229 but still does not look that powerfull
releford throws nice fast combo in close but of course 25 fights and 5 kos has no power.

withersppon falling short with his jab

slow tempo of the fight so far

nice double body and clubbing right by witherspoon.

nice right lead rutherford.

very close round again.

i prefered relefords work bar 1 withersppon combo.

10/9 releford

sean
01-05-2008, 08:13 PM
i dont recognise the commentator but he just agreed with me

sean
01-05-2008, 08:16 PM
round 3

witherspoon fighting from out of range to much boxing by numbers

right fot shuffle slow jab

releford counters but misses.

left hook right cross by releford

withersppoon moving forward a little more but just putting a soft jab out there.

nice left hook releford counter
witherspoon responds with his best right of the fight

witherspoon little better this round.

evens it up on my scorcard.

sean
01-05-2008, 08:21 PM
round 4/

matching jabs to start 4
nice releford counter.

actually releford looks the more skilled fighter just to small

fight on the inside for first time

nice left uppercut releford

witherspoon really does fight in slow motion.

witherspoon lets his hands go and gets countered with the bigest left hook of the fight from releford lands flush.

and another much faster handspeed lands another left hook.

releford cleaner and better work, witherspoon through a little more.

hard pick.
releford 10/9 goes ahead 1 round

sean
01-05-2008, 08:25 PM
round 6
if releford would let his hands go and press the bigger man he would win this going away.

clearly the faster more natural fighter.

witherpoon is ponderous/slow and has little power.

uppercut by releford

witherspoon marching forward but relefotrd outspeeding him .

releford now comptemtuoas of witherspoons power and has now let his hands drop while trying to potshot from the outside.

both missing .

cleaner work releford

i have releford in lead by 2 now.

showtime commentary has releford 1 round up.

kk17
01-05-2008, 08:28 PM
is it on ******* ?

sean
01-05-2008, 08:29 PM
round 6/

nice left hook witherspoon and releford walked straight into it.

gets a bit of confidence and lets his hands go

releford content to fight in the pocket

both arm punch on the inside

both land rights

witherspoon painfully slow but letting his hands go this round

nice clean work on inside by releford

witherspoon winning round on workrate but at the same time you can see he is ponderous and limited.

witherspoon 10/9

releford 1 round up

sean
01-05-2008, 08:29 PM
is it on ******* ?

no idea if i am even watching it live

i am watching it on an irish tv channel

kk17
01-05-2008, 08:31 PM
no idea if i am even watching it live

i am watching it on an irish tv channel

ah ok

sean
01-05-2008, 08:33 PM
round 7/

both trading releford much quicker but equal landed

big noice right by releford

releford no trouble with witherspoons punches despite being the smaller man

both even exchanges

perhaps witherspoon doing slightly more work

beutifull left hook and right cross not picked up[ on by commentary by releford

make it all on last round

witherspoon 10/9
even

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Chief_Second
01-05-2008, 08:36 PM
thanks for the r4r sean

sean
01-05-2008, 08:37 PM
round 8/

last round

both standing toe toi toe

poor quality by both men

nice left by releford

witherspoon throwing but no quality at all

witherspoon trys to box long
3 punch releford all land

releford lets his hands go

more combos land well by releford
releford winning round easy

nice short witherspoon , releford walks through it and punches back well

releford continues to punch

releford 10/9

i have releford winning by 1

showtime gives releford the fight as well.

sean
01-05-2008, 08:38 PM
not al bernstein but another team.

quite enjoyed there low key commentary

sean
01-05-2008, 08:38 PM
i hope releford gets it
better fighter IMO

sean
01-05-2008, 08:39 PM
judges scores

78-75
78-74
78-74

witherspoon

Chief_Second
01-05-2008, 08:40 PM
fix!!!

sean
01-05-2008, 08:40 PM
what a complete surprise:D

trust me on this, witherspoon no way/no how won 6 out of the 8 rounds.

Cerberus
01-05-2008, 08:40 PM
Did they say what fight was coming up next or what fight(s) will be on the televised Showtime card?

sean
01-05-2008, 08:44 PM
not sure if this is going out in america as this is the beggining of the undercard and it might just be us in europe getting these prelim fights.

next up amaro- v demarco 4 rounder.130

sean
01-05-2008, 08:45 PM
pretty sure this is live
my screen says it is live.

sean
01-05-2008, 08:49 PM
round 1/


hometown figter di marco gets pasted inthe first round being decked and batterd
by a 1-1 fighter.

judges most probably scored it for di marco 10/9:D

sean
01-05-2008, 08:52 PM
amero again batters di marco but no knockdowns this round.

sean
01-05-2008, 08:56 PM
amaro again walks through di marco with impunity.

sean
01-05-2008, 09:00 PM
amero wins last round as well

i scored it 40-35 amaro

sean
01-05-2008, 09:01 PM
not said who is up next yet.

JOSEY WALES
01-05-2008, 09:02 PM
amero wins last round as well

i scored it 40-35 amaro About right sean ,witherspoon lost alo imo . Regards Josey Wales

sean
01-05-2008, 09:03 PM
scores

38-37
39-36
38-36

amaro

they tried there very very best to rob the foreigner

truely atrocious and scandalous judging as was tyhr first fight as well.

sean
01-05-2008, 09:06 PM
they are showing highlights of johnson v pineda at the moment.

JOSEY WALES
01-05-2008, 09:10 PM
Sean , As soon a Witherspoon runs into a fella that has some pop in the left hand his o wil go , Regards Josey Wales

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:13 PM
i take it chazz aint gonna be a future threat like chambers is...

sean
01-05-2008, 09:14 PM
witherspoons jab is so slow you are right, someone is going to time a punch over it and down will go witherspoon.

in fact watching on tv he is open to everything.

with judges like that though he only has to stand up to win.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:15 PM
The philly boys have been doin great lately as well.. cunningham.. chambers ..

sean
01-05-2008, 09:16 PM
i take it chazz aint gonna be a future threat like chambers is...

witherspoon will never/ever /ever be a top contender.
and i think i am not putting it in strong enough terms.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:16 PM
he is a ponderous looking fighter anyhow.. not much pop..

sean
01-05-2008, 09:18 PM
not his fault he does not slack/fights to his abilty/listens to his corner and tries to implement there instructions.

just simply witherspoon does not have the talent/power to go anywhere.

both me and showtime commentry had him losing this fight v a 13-9 cruiserweight with 5 ko`s.

and the cruiser had the better power.

sean
01-05-2008, 09:19 PM
nect up ngoujo on his way to the ring.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:20 PM
thats a sorry set of affairs...

sean
01-05-2008, 09:21 PM
now malinaggi on his way

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:22 PM
this cat looks dangerous to me............. paul has his hands full..

sean
01-05-2008, 09:23 PM
both fighters in the ring.
fight soon about to start

sean
01-05-2008, 09:23 PM
this cat looks dangerous to me............. paul has his hands full..

little power and plodding feet should mean paul outslicks him from the outside.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:24 PM
did glencoffe look good?

Kid Cubano
01-05-2008, 09:25 PM
when will gamboa is going to fight?

sean
01-05-2008, 09:26 PM
he was his normal self.
all aggression and business letting his hands go.

albeit v a fat welterweight who took his best shots flush for 8 rounds before having enough.

sean
01-05-2008, 09:26 PM
lennon just introduced both fighters instructions being given
kick off in seconds

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:28 PM
paul is a very good fighter , he impressed me against Cotto..

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:29 PM
ready for action

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:29 PM
whats the height diff?? much??

sean
01-05-2008, 09:31 PM
ding ding
round 1/


mali comes out jabbing to body

ng double arm guard blocking on arms
ng not letting his hands go
mg jabbing occasionally to body in very slow start to fight

n/g 4 jabs all miss

lot of missing in first round

nice left hook lead mg

nice big right ng

right body mali

mali 4 punch combo backs ng up

10/9 malinaggi

sean
01-05-2008, 09:31 PM
in the ring they look the same height.


whats the height diff?? much??

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:33 PM
Paul has quite an exciting style usually.. you sometimes dont have to go far lookin for him..

sean
01-05-2008, 09:35 PM
round 2/

n/g ring center mali circling

left hook body with power n/g

few single jab leads to body by mali

slow first min

right body n/g

right cross not sure if it landed mali

n/g not pressing at all and fight is all at range

n/g lets his hands go mali grabs hold

nothing in that round at all hardly a punch landed
10/10

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:36 PM
keep a high workrate.. i want him to put early rounds in the bank

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:38 PM
damn... come on Paulie.... need early rounds.....

sean
01-05-2008, 09:39 PM
round 3/

n/g takes ring center

jab by mali

jab mali

nice n/g power left hook after mali combo

nice lead right n/g lands hard

maul on inside follows

ng times mali with big right lands clean

n/g timing counters making mali hesitate

n/g 10/9

cardstars
01-05-2008, 09:40 PM
round 2/

n/g ring center mali circling

left hook body with power n/g

few single jab leads to body by mali

slow first min

right body n/g

right cross not sure if it landed mali

n/g not pressing at all and fight is all at range

n/g lets his hands go mali grabs hold

nothing in that round at all hardly a punch landed
10/10
:good thanks

daz52
01-05-2008, 09:40 PM
i thought paulie would dominate sounds like ngo is competitive

daz52
01-05-2008, 09:41 PM
Thanks for the RBR by the way

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:42 PM
i knew that cat would prove a handful..

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:42 PM
yes fellers you are doin a great job...

sean
01-05-2008, 09:43 PM
round 4/

n/g no foot movemnent trying to counter mali

mali slipps to floor

good n/g left hook


nivce right n/g

n/g now walking forward throwing wide boms bit not landing

mali not doing a lot

mali timed with a right by n/g

mali not letting his hands go thinking more about being counterd

n/g putting pressure on mali not landing much but mali allowing himself to be dictated to

n/g walked through mali that round.

10/9 ng
ng 1 round up now on my card

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:44 PM
Paul cant afford to slack off during the early going... he needs to establish himself in the fight..

daz52
01-05-2008, 09:46 PM
Could this turn into another Cotto fight? Paulie has no power and just gets walked thru or is it too early to tell?

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:46 PM
gotta grab the fight by the balls now... N/G may get a taste for this if he isnt deterred......

See Me Flow
01-05-2008, 09:47 PM
Malignaggi not looking so impressive right now. Perhaps he should reconsider fighting Hatton.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:47 PM
thanx for r by r fellers .. appreciated in the extreme

sean
01-05-2008, 09:47 PM
round 5/
mali nees to stop letting n/g walk through him and give him angles.
he is moving back on rails when pressured and left hand low getting caught


left hook n/g
mali few peck jabs
harder jab n/g

mali reluctent to lead with anything because he is getting countered.

n/g jabbing well

mali needs to step of at angles to stop and make n/g think.

n/g is getting his timing and confidence high.

n/g letting his hands go more than mali ebven if not that accurate he is the ring general in there

left hook lands last of 4 puinch combo.

n/g again
10/9

sean
01-05-2008, 09:48 PM
showtime have mali winning first and n/g next 4

fighter86
01-05-2008, 09:48 PM
pauly is going to get ko if he fights this way

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:48 PM
OMG....... Hatton would be owning that ass..........

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:50 PM
N/G looked very focussed at the weigh in and rules meeting.. i knew he would come with serious intentions

sean
01-05-2008, 09:52 PM
round 6/
i think i have n/g up by 2
showtime up by 3

n/g comes forwrd agin.
,mali has shortened up his jab and nputting nothing behind it to stop being counterd.
throwing hardly any other punch.

/n/g walking straight forward to let his hands go

nice jab by mali his first decent shot in a while

not that n/g is douing anything grat just mali is not punching concentratying on defense and not offense.

n/g outjabbing malo rocking his head back

mali completley out of his gameplan , i agree with showtime commentry.

by the wat giurt is telling mali he is doing better than he is.

last round on ring generlaship and cleaner work

n/g 10/9

Phanekim
01-05-2008, 09:52 PM
isn't this the same guy that gave castillo some fits. cmon, this is why i avoided betting...this guy has a shot...and from the reports...he seems to be doing decent.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:52 PM
get your shit together Paulie...

establish some solid work..

sean
01-05-2008, 09:52 PM
pauly is going to get ko if he fights this way

no danger so far.

BigReg
01-05-2008, 09:54 PM
Ngoudjo needs to jab more. He's definately winning the 7th, but he would be well ahead if he did.

valdez
01-05-2008, 09:55 PM
no danger so far.

he almost just got knocked down..

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:55 PM
Paul needs to drop the pouting and posing.. get job done..

buckle down and work.. snatch some rounds...

Rock0052
01-05-2008, 09:55 PM
paulie won the 6th...ng didn't land

sean
01-05-2008, 09:55 PM
round 7/

n/g comes out and lands big right

mali in big trounble hanging on for deAR LIFE

mali in trouble grabbing hold for last min

wont let go ref should do something

mali still holding mali legs have gonbe for 2 mins

mali hurt badly this round by 2 big rights and held for whole round
another right on the bell by n/g

n/g 10/9 big round could be a 10/8

BigReg
01-05-2008, 09:56 PM
I've got it 4-3 Paulie after 7

Tencount85
01-05-2008, 09:56 PM
Malignaggi hurt!!!

Symphenyceo
01-05-2008, 09:56 PM
paulie got hurt in that rd

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:56 PM
rethink Hatton ambitions......................

fighter86
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
pauly taking a bigger beating than he did when he fought cotto ,Damn I didn't think i would see this

sean
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
i think i have n/g up by 4 have to look at my scorecard

See Me Flow
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
NGO looking real good right now. Malignaggi was hurt. It may be back to Friday Night Fights for Malignaggi.

liljp361
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
lol Paulie sucks hahaahahaaa

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
i ng by a round

Robot16
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
Damn Paulie took some punishment that rd.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:57 PM
I had high hopes for Malignaggi.........

daz52
01-05-2008, 09:58 PM
Shit!

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 09:58 PM
pm gaining some control

Tencount85
01-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Ngoudjo opened hells gates in that round

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 09:59 PM
pull your fuckin finger out Paolie..

Act like you wanna win it at least.....

sean
01-05-2008, 09:59 PM
round 8/

mali jabbing trying to let his hands go

left hook by mali

mali grab hold

n/g loading up with wild right hand leads all miss

mali lands couple of jabs

few left hook mali

n/g trying for ko forgot counterpunching this round

mali wins round 8
10/9

BUDW
01-05-2008, 09:59 PM
Paulie hurt his right hand?

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:00 PM
great round by round folks..............

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:00 PM
Rd 8 to Paulie. I have it 5-3 Paulie

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:01 PM
his hand is hurt..???

is that a fact..?

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
get your composure Paulie...........

get a damn foothold..

liljp361
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
This is what this shittalker gets ahahahaa

BUDW
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
Iam asking if its hurt he seems tenative with right hand.

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
paulies starting to tke it now

Robot16
01-05-2008, 10:02 PM
I had high hopes for Malignaggi.........
Same here man:?

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:03 PM
Rd 8 to Paulie. I have it 5-3 Paulie


ou have it 5 - 3 paulie..?

i hope so..

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:03 PM
Pm needs to learn how to throw better combination than just a jab

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:03 PM
Round 9 to Paulie. 6-3 Paulie after 9

Ziggy Montana
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
2-1 Malignaggi

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
i have pm in the lead now

daz52
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
Same here man:?

Its not over yett but yea same.... HE outboxed people but i gues he just doesnt have enough power to keep people off no matter how much he boxes them... I if Cotto ran thur him imagine hatton.... Dibella and Paulie got cocky after the Ndou fight i think

sean
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
round 9/

mali jabbing falling short

big clubbing right n/g

left hook n/g

mali combo
n/g and malo bit slopy and not accurate

4 piunch combo n/g

2 to body n/g

n/g 10/9

showtime gave that to mali, but i dont know what for he landed a few jabs only and they never commentated on any work at all in that round that n/g landed.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:04 PM
Stamp your damn authority on the rest of the fight bro......

Symphenyceo
01-05-2008, 10:05 PM
Rd 8 to Paulie. I have it 5-3 Paulie


:good

med
01-05-2008, 10:05 PM
Do all of you have Paulie ahead by a few rounds or is it still very close ?

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:06 PM
Do all of you have Paulie ahead by a few rounds or is it still very close ?
still close. ndgo is slowing and tiring. pm is taking charge

Rock0052
01-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Malignaggi wins round 9. Close fight, but NG is letting it slip away. Needs to regroup for the rest of the fight.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Gotta win these rounds Mallignaggi...............

no slip ups now.............

sean
01-05-2008, 10:07 PM
round 10/

mali slowed down a lot know with his speed

n/g also tired

lot of holding this round

left right hand by n/g

n/g ring general in this round

commetators of showtime sitting on fence.

mali holding
nice uppercut mali

mali makes him miss with 4 punches

n/g 10/9

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:07 PM
Do all of you have Paulie ahead by a few rounds or is it still very close ?
still close. ndgo is slowing and tiring. pm is taking charge

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:08 PM
Round 10 Paulie. 7-3 Paulie. I can't believe he's winning this fight on pretty much just the jab. He used the uppercut effectively in round 10 though.

BUDW
01-05-2008, 10:08 PM
6-4 Paulie

sean
01-05-2008, 10:09 PM
i see loads of americans are seeing it different than me.

to me a fighter backing up throwing a few jabs a round cannot be given that round v a fighter throwing and landing harder and more often with power shots.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:09 PM
Put pressure on the cat....

don;t give him room to get back in the fight..

med
01-05-2008, 10:10 PM
Sean, how have you got it so far then.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:10 PM
i hope they are seeing it like our american friends...

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:10 PM
In Canada its delayed and in round 5 commentators have it 2-1-1 Ngoudjo

Cerberus
01-05-2008, 10:11 PM
I have it dead even after 10

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:11 PM
Hope it won't be no roberry

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:11 PM
I dont think this fight is all that close.

Paulie is up pretty handily.

BUDW
01-05-2008, 10:12 PM
paulie 6-5 closer

sean
01-05-2008, 10:12 PM
round 11/

low action and landing round so far.
n/g throwung but not landing clean

very low action and tempo by both fighters in 11

n/g comes in throwing mali grabs hold

n/g again throwing and missing mali not throwing anything ay all.

n/g keeps on throwing , not landing clean but outworking mali.

mali doing very little relying on hometown judging that was shown in previous fights.

n/g 10/9

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Close round. I'll give 11 to Ngoudjo. 7-4 Paulie after 11

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:12 PM
is his hand ok.??

OSKA
01-05-2008, 10:13 PM
If its close...pm will get the nod by split.

Symphenyceo
01-05-2008, 10:13 PM
I dont think this fight is all that close.

Paulie is up pretty handily.


:good 8-3 thru 11

sean
01-05-2008, 10:14 PM
i have n/g in a big lead but i watched withersppon being given 5 points what he never deserved and an italian american who took a pasting and was batterd and decked lose by 1 round.

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:14 PM
I have it 7-4 Paulie.

He is landing more. Controlling the pace for the most part. Landing cleaner. Throwing more. Displaying the better defense.

I just dont see this fight being close.....sorry.

DAGOBOY
01-05-2008, 10:15 PM
is this a case of someone not being effective with their aggression and the other being reluctant to get stupid.

Rock0052
01-05-2008, 10:15 PM
big herm needs the KO...otherwise it's Paulie UD

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
Damn really hope Ngoudjo wins. At least i was right, he is no joke!

BUDW
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
6-6 draw

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
Rd 12 to Ngoudjo. Final score....115-113 Malignaggi

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
could go either way

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
7-5 And thats giving two close rounds to Ng on just harder shots landing (but when would Paulie EVER land harder shots?).

This fight wasnt really that close....no idea what you guys are seeing.

Cerberus
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
I have it a draw!

med
01-05-2008, 10:16 PM
How have you guys scored it then at the end ? It sounds like most of you would have paulie winning !

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:17 PM
i have it a draw. mal is the crowd favourite so that will have an effetc

sean
01-05-2008, 10:17 PM
round 12/

mali is just grabbing and hanging on as n/g tries to work

masli running and not doing anything as n/g chasing him all around ring albeit not landing anything.

mali grabs again.

messy last round

fight over.

showtime cimmentators along with me have N/G the winner

rest of esb watching has malinaggi way way ahead.

i do not expect N/G to win because of the judging i saw in the undercard being appalling.

Toopretty
01-05-2008, 10:17 PM
paulie fucking won that shit. WTF KIND OF CRACK IS BERNSTEIN ON. DID HE BET ON THIS SHIT fucking blocked punches and they say the shit landed :lol: :lol: Ndoujo got 4 rounds 5 at best. I am tired of the bullshit.

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
what fight are you people watching ,pauly lost all the way stop protecting this guy.

sean
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
i have n/g winning wide.

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
I have it 115-113 Paulie, Paulie might get a 116-112 decision though

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
round 12/

mali is just grabbing and hanging on as n/g tries to work

masli running and not doing anything as n/g chasing him all around ring albeit not landing anything.

mali grabs again.

messy last round

fight over.

showtime cimmentators along with me have N/G the winner

rest of esb watching has malinaggi way way ahead.

i do not expect N/G to win because of the judging i saw in the undercard being appalling.

I understand the undercard being not well judged...but a win for Paulie would not fall into that category.

Ng had a good fight...but a fight he clearly lost.

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
WHo won

Robot16
01-05-2008, 10:18 PM
i gave rds 9-11 to paulie and 7-8 to Herman, i didnt have much of the early rds.

Prob 115-113 either way

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
Good scores...no complaints here.

valdez
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
bullshit.

BUDW
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
Bolonga

sean
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
115--113
116-113
116-111
malinaggi

as with all the undercard fights

attrociuos

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
Judges scoresplz

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
What did I tell you,I knew Paulie was going to get 7 or 8 rounds

TIGEREDGE
01-05-2008, 10:19 PM
none of these has a shot against the best of british ala hatton and witter

See Me Flow
01-05-2008, 10:20 PM
116 -111??? Wtf!

Robot16
01-05-2008, 10:20 PM
Yea paulie takes it

Rock0052
01-05-2008, 10:20 PM
115-113 Malignaggi is what I scored it. Herman won his rounds more clearly (especially the 7th), but he didn't land enough to take more of the borderline rounds.

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:21 PM
that shit is all about money ,because he's more marketable ,that fight was a joke

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:21 PM
You guys kill me. What did Herman do better than Paulie?

Again, the more punches thrown were from PM. The more accurate fighter was PM. The better defense was from PM. The pace was controlled by PM. All of these in most of the rounds....it wasnt that hard to score.

Cmon now....

pngo
01-05-2008, 10:21 PM
Man Paulie really has a hell of a chin

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
mmmmmmmmm interesting

sean
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
i simply fail to see what malinaggi did in the fight.

he was backed up all the fight

hurt and wobbled

threw very few punches v a fighter who walked through him and let his hands go.
and landed all the hard punches in the fight bar one uppercut in round 8.

Rock0052
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
one things for sure, I don't like Paulie's sleepwalking through this fght. He'll have to step things up big time if he's talking about big fights with elite guys. He did win tonight, though.

dan-b
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
Paulie was a lucky boy. Only die hard fans of his would say he has a chance against Hatton now. He'd be engulfed inside 10.

Tencount85
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
116 -111??? Wtf!

I said the same thing

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:22 PM
thanx fellers...... God bless

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:23 PM
It seems like everyone is always ready to scream robbery. This fight was not that.

Please someone explain what Herman did better than Paulie in most of the rounds. NO WAY HE WON THAT FIGHT!

fatdrunkenslob
01-05-2008, 10:23 PM
Hatton is salivating..........

daz52
01-05-2008, 10:23 PM
Thanks guys

sean
01-05-2008, 10:23 PM
change that

one of the judges had it

117-111

mark my words when reports of this fight come up people will complain about this.

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:23 PM
R 4 R was spot on..........

great job..

Bigcat
01-05-2008, 10:24 PM
So Witherspoon looked shocking and Paul didn't impress......

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:24 PM
i simply fail to see what malinaggi did in the fight.

he was backed up all the fight

hurt and wobbled

threw very few punches v a fighter who walked through him and let his hands go.
and landed all the hard punches in the fight bar one uppercut in round 8.

Threw very few? He threw far more than Herman did?

Herman had a couple of decent rounds..and two good ones. He fought well....but was clearly outboxed.

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:25 PM
change that

one of the judges had it

117-111

mark my words when reports of this fight come up people will complain about this.

That was one of the press row judges...not an actual judge.

pngo
01-05-2008, 10:26 PM
I'd say 2 judges really suck, only 1 judge had it right 115-113

Vantage_West
01-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Hope it won't be no roberrywell to be water it's a close fight

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:26 PM
Paulie was a lucky boy. Only die hard fans of his would say he has a chance against Hatton now. He'd be engulfed inside 10.

Oh Hatton would wear Paulie down. I dont know about stopping him, but he would school him on the inside. Agree 100% with that one.

Sinew
01-05-2008, 10:27 PM
Pretty good :bbb

Quik
01-05-2008, 10:27 PM
That sucks really hometown scores.

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:27 PM
That was one of the press row judges...not an actual judge.

Nope, one of the judges did in fact have it 117-111. I had it 115-113 Paulie. 116-112 Paulie is also acceptable

See Me Flow
01-05-2008, 10:27 PM
I don't want to hear any excuses about a long layoff. Malignaggi needs to stay away from Hatton. Hatton KO's Maliggnagi.

Vantage_West
01-05-2008, 10:28 PM
that shit is all about money ,because he's more marketable ,that fight was a jokeyeah mali is a fan fav aint he..all five of them

LightningJoe
01-05-2008, 10:28 PM
Fully agree with Sean, sues2nd I gotta wonder what fight you were watching, as well as some other people on here with their scorecards.

Paulie just backed off and held for the 'championship rounds'.

I don't feel that all 3 judges should be from the same country as either fighter.

117-111 is absoloutey corrupt and a joke. 116-113 is biased. 114-114 tells you that the hometown fighter got a gift.

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:28 PM
I still think Paulie could beat Hatton. However, Witter would beat the shit out of him.

BigReg
01-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Fully agree with Sean, sues2nd I gotta wonder what fight you were watching, as well as some other people on here with their scorecards.

Paulie just backed off and held for the 'championship rounds'.

I don't feel that all 3 judges should be from the same country as either fighter.

117-111 is absoloutey corrupt and a joke. 116-113 is biased. 114-114 tells you that the hometown fighter got a gift.

Paule can go backwards all night. As long as he's landing and the other guy isn't. he wins.

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:29 PM
Nope, one of the judges did in fact have it 117-111. I had it 115-113 Paulie. 116-112 Paulie is also acceptable

Oh my mistake then.

But yeah. I had it 115-113 for PM. I could easily see 116-112. But scoring it for HN....sorry, no.

sean
01-05-2008, 10:31 PM
well showtime are calling it a robbery and shocking.

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:31 PM
How come they never show the percentage of punches thrown like HBO that fight was a joke with one judge having the fight by six points 111-117 the more they protect him he's going to end up like the camcho's and prince with no hall of fame status.

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:32 PM
Fully agree with Sean, sues2nd I gotta wonder what fight you were watching, as well as some other people on here with their scorecards.

Paulie just backed off and held for the 'championship rounds'.

I don't feel that all 3 judges should be from the same country as either fighter.

117-111 is absoloutey corrupt and a joke. 116-113 is biased. 114-114 tells you that the hometown fighter got a gift.

No idea what you guys were watching (and sean is one of my fav posters...normally nothing but quality). But I reiterate....WHAT DID HERMAN DO?

He didnt control the pace.
He didnt outwork PM.
He didnt land the more accurate shots.
He didnt display the better defense.
He didnt win the fight.

Someone please tell me, other than landing the harder shots....WHAT DID HE DO????

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:33 PM
How come they never show the percentage of punches thrown like HBO that fight was a joke with one judge having the fight by six points 111-117 the more they protect him he's going to end up like the camcho's and prince with no hall of fame status.

They dont show it because (correct me if Im wrong, but), HBO has a contract with CompuBox.

sues2nd
01-05-2008, 10:33 PM
well showtime are calling it a robbery and shocking.

And how many times are the announcers off. Ever see a fight called by Jim Lampley...?

:D

rodney
01-05-2008, 10:37 PM
No idea what you guys were watching (and sean is one of my fav posters...normally nothing but quality). But I reiterate....WHAT DID HERMAN DO?

He didnt control the pace.
He didnt outwork PM.
He didnt land the more accurate shots.
He didnt display the better defense.
He didnt win the fight.

Someone please tell me, other than landing the harder shots....WHAT DID HE DO????

What did that Fag Malingni do ???

boxingbull
01-05-2008, 10:38 PM
i started watching the fight early in rd 3 (forgot the fight was on for a sec) but to be fair herman is a very dangerous and underrated fighter. he sorta reminds me of the clottey of this division but i do agree paulie did not look good the championship rds. That said bring on paulie vs hatton or paulie vs witter

sean
01-05-2008, 10:38 PM
i saw malinaggi reluctent to throw in a lot of rounds because he was being counterd and in those type of rounds when n/g was coming forward and mali was backing up slipping and grabbing when /ng/ was the ring general i scored those rounds to n/g .

a few soft jabs to the body should not win a fighter a round IMO.

but i reiterate the undercard judging was so poor.

the south american vs the italian american for instance.

that was a 4 round battering , even decking the american.

and yet he won by a single point on the cards.

withersppon winning by a mile in a fight i scored anything he done in his favour and i still had him losing and so di showtime and yet he won.

simply IMO the house fighter was not going to lose tonight.

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:39 PM
pauly could have gotten knock down six times and as long as he coast and made it to the last round he was going to get the decision ,they needed this win to try and get him a mega million payday hes still a scrub .

shrubbah
01-05-2008, 10:41 PM
PMM definately IMO won the fight - - he started off the fight controlling the pace... stole the first few rounds...and at the end of the fight he was controlling the pace as well.

By mid fight IMO it was obvious if Herman wanted to win, he needed to knock PMM the fuck out. he didnt.
and still ....
PMM.

fighter86
01-05-2008, 10:43 PM
They can come up with there own compubox and call it something else ,dont we live in a computer info world Im pretty sure it would be hard to do.