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Stinky gloves
06-18-2007, 12:47 PM
Who takes it?

H .
06-18-2007, 12:51 PM
Pbf

Armo_Ruski
06-18-2007, 12:52 PM
mayweather would take this, hamed would not land flush the whole fight

Stinky gloves
06-18-2007, 12:54 PM
mayweather would take this, hamed would not land flush the whole fight
Barrera beat Hammed because he press him a lot.
Mayweather would not touch Hammed for the whole fight with his one punch combo.
Hammed had similar speed to PBF but much bigger KO power.

Guru_Too_You
06-18-2007, 01:02 PM
Barrera beat Hammed because he press him a lot.
Mayweather would not touch Hammed for the whole fight with his one punch combo.
Hammed had similar speed to PBF but much bigger KO power.

Barrera beat Hamed because his technique was far superior.

And you PBF detractors seem to forget that he hunted and destroyed at 130 and 135. Hamed would have been beaten to a pulp. Take Barrera's technique and add power that can shake natural welterweights a la DLH, and Hamed is in for a long and painful night.

Stinky gloves
06-18-2007, 01:13 PM
BTake Barrera's technique and add power that can shake natural welterweights a la DLH, and Hamed is in for a long and painful night.

Isn't the difference between PBF at 130 and 150?
Would 157 DLH be shaken by 130 Floyd?
Wasn't Hamed faster at 130 than DLH at 157?

Guru_Too_You
06-18-2007, 01:15 PM
Isn't the difference between PBF at 130 and 150?
Would 157 DLH be shaken by 130 Floyd?
Wasn't Hamed faster at 130 than DLH at 157?

Between PBF and Barrera:

Technique - PBF
Natural Skill - PBF
Power - PBF
Handspeed - PBF
Chin - Barrera, though PBF has never been stopped or SERIOUSLY hurt

So, 2+2=4 in my world. How bout yours?

codeman99998
06-18-2007, 01:25 PM
PBF was a hard hitter at 130.

FlatNose
06-18-2007, 01:30 PM
No contest..Hamed was made for Floyd.Even if The Prince did slip a big one in.No body is going to kayo Floyd with just one shot.

jimmie
06-18-2007, 01:31 PM
Hamed is everything u dont want ur fighter to fight like hands at his nuts,no lowerbody movement,jumps in with his shots alot. Mayweather is so superior its almost funny with his technique and defense plus hes taller. Mayweather embarrsingly easy UD.

Dennis
06-18-2007, 01:34 PM
Floyd would counterpunch Naseem to death.

Stinky gloves
06-18-2007, 05:38 PM
Floyd would counterpunch Naseem to death.

... if he could reach his head.

jc
06-18-2007, 05:50 PM
Mayweather by wide decision.

thewoo
06-18-2007, 05:58 PM
Mayweather by stoppage after a 9 round one sided beatdown

digiram
06-18-2007, 06:00 PM
... if he could reach his head.

Floyd always was and always is a great body puncher. He will eventually get to the head after a few lead rights and jabs to the body, and the boy was lightning fast at 130, and had 1 punch KO power at that weight as well.

Lampley
06-18-2007, 06:26 PM
Floyd hammers and schools Hamed worse than MAB. All Hamed has is a puncher's chance, and against Floyd, that's not an optimistic scenario.

To me, the more interesting fantasy fight is Hamed vs. Pacqiuao.

C Money
06-18-2007, 06:31 PM
WOW!! Finally found a matchup where I'm rooting for Floyd:lol: :lol:

There's no question here, absolutely unbelievable and almost inconceivable as to how anyone could IMAGINE Prince "The Joke" Hamed being in any way COMPETITIVE with Floyd.


Hamed had NO SKILLZ, all he had was a big punch at feather. He was outclassed, exposed, and embarrassed by Barerra and I'd GUARANTEE that the little arab frog would get beaten soundly and EMBARRASSED worse than before.

Illmatic
06-18-2007, 06:33 PM
Barrera beat Hammed because he press him a lot.
Mayweather would not touch Hammed for the whole fight with his one punch combo.
Hammed had similar speed to PBF but much bigger KO power.

:patschWhat the hell are you talking about. Barrera won b/c he was patient, methodical and kept a high guard while Hamed was trying to land one big punch. I remember when this fight was talked about being made. Ssimply put, Hamed is too small to fight PBF at any time. Hamed was 5'3 and was small for a featherweight, much less a superfeatherweight.

BobDigi5060
06-18-2007, 06:34 PM
Floyd by UD.

Hamed's speed/power keeps him in the fight but he gets undressed in a clear decision loss.

Illmatic
06-18-2007, 06:35 PM
WOW!! Finally found a matchup where I'm rooting for Floyd:lol: :lol:

There's no question here, absolutely unbelievable and almost inconceivable as to how anyone could IMAGINE Prince "The Joke" Hamed being in any way COMPETITIVE with Floyd.


Hamed had NO SKILLZ, all he had was a big punch at feather. He was outclassed, exposed, and embarrassed by Barerra and I'd GUARANTEE that the little arab frog would get beaten soundly and EMBARRASSED worse than before.

No skillz? Just b/c he was unorthodox? That defense took a ton of skill and was made possible by his always great footwork- Hameds greatest and most underrated asset.

C Money
06-18-2007, 06:47 PM
No skillz? Just b/c he was unorthodox? That defense took a ton of skill and was made possible by his always great footwork- Hameds greatest and most underrated asset.


Barerra SHOWED HIS SKILL LEVEL!!

How well did unorthodox fair there??:lol: Compared to PBF? Please!!!


All Hamed was was a PUNCHER at feather. Instead of developing an all around game with REAL SKILL he relied on his dancing, antics, and BULLSHIT!!:good A lot of good it did him too:lol:


Footwork??:lol: Ok.. I guess the frog could dance a two step but bending in half like GUMBY still doesnt equate to BOXING SKILL:D

Boro chris
06-18-2007, 06:49 PM
Mayweather by stoppage after a 9 round one sided beatdown

Floyd would probably win, but I cant see him stopping Naz. I think he'd be too cautious too risk it as Naz only has a punchers chance.

psychopath
06-18-2007, 06:53 PM
Hamed vs Mayweather at 130

Damn this could have been history, two fighters with the biggest mouth fighting each other? :lol: :lol: :lol:

:huh :think

Pimp C
06-18-2007, 06:55 PM
Barrera beat Hamed because his technique was far superior.

And you PBF detractors seem to forget that he hunted and destroyed at 130 and 135. Hamed would have been beaten to a pulp. Take Barrera's technique and add power that can shake natural welterweights a la DLH, and Hamed is in for a long and painful night.
Exactly, Hamed is beaten to a pulp in this one. I doubt Hamed could really hurt PBF. Floyd took Oscar's punches at 154 and didn't blink he'd do the same with Hamed at 130.:deal PBF by wide UD or TKO because Hamed's corner throws in the towel.

Amsterdam
06-18-2007, 06:57 PM
Mayweather hit pretty good at 130, Mayweather TKO 8 over that overrated Hamed.

C Money
06-18-2007, 06:58 PM
Hamed was more than just a big punch, his defense and evasiveness was pretty impressive. He had a VERY unorthodox(probably the most unorthodox ever) style, but it worked, and his huge punch just back ed it up. Nobody tried the stuff in the ring he did and made it work. Julian Jackson was a big punch, Hamed was a lot more than that in the ring. It took a very well schooled boxer to beat him, and an ATG in Barrera.


Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Pacquiao, PBF, and many, many more in the annals of boxing at 30 would have pounded that little toad into the embarrassment of retirement that MAB sent him too.

Julian Jackson had more game, more skillz, and a better punch than Hamed. All he was missing was a CHIN.

When it came time to step up to elite level?? Hamed was outclassed, embarrassed, and ran into retirement. He doesnt belong mentioned with guy's like Jackson or many other ATG fighters.

Obviously, it takes some "skill', yet in Hamed's case it was more unorthodox movement because his power was great at that weight, to be a pro. Yet, the fact that he went out the way he did, speaks VOLUMES. The guy wasnt ATG or anywhere close to it.

Illmatic
06-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Barerra SHOWED HIS SKILL LEVEL!!

How well did unorthodox fair there??:lol: Compared to PBF? Please!!!


All Hamed was was a PUNCHER at feather. Instead of developing an all around game with REAL SKILL he relied on his dancing, antics, and BULLSHIT!!:good A lot of good it did him too:lol:


Footwork??:lol: Ok.. I guess the frog could dance a two step but bending in half like GUMBY still doesnt equate to BOXING SKILL:D

Does anyone even read posts before posting themselves? I know PBF wouldve beaten Naz (go back and read), but to say he wasnt skillful is just moronic. Wow, oh my god, he lost to an atg, he must have NO SKILL:nut He won every title and was undisputed in a division that he was too small for just by tanting and dancing huh?

C Money
06-18-2007, 07:04 PM
Does anyone even read posts before posting themselves? I know PBF wouldve beaten Naz (go back and read), but to say he wasnt skillful is just moronic. Wow, oh my god, he lost to an atg, he must have NO SKILL:nut He won every title and was undisputed in a division that he was too small for just by tanting and dancing huh?



Obviously, it takes some "skill', yet in Hamed's case it was more unorthodox movement because his power was great at that weight, to be a pro. Yet, the fact that he went out the way he did, speaks VOLUMES. The guy wasnt ATG or anywhere close to it.



Hamed is OVERRATED because of his power. His true assesment as a fighter can be better determined by how he performed vs MAB.
Like I said, HOST of others that would have whipped Hamed as well.

Pimp C
06-18-2007, 07:05 PM
Barrera, Marquez, Morales, Pacquiao, PBF, and many, many more in the annals of boxing at 30 would have pounded that little toad into the embarrassment of retirement that MAB sent him too.

Julian Jackson had more game, more skillz, and a better punch than Hamed. All he was missing was a CHIN.

When it came time to step up to elite level?? Hamed was outclassed, embarrassed, and ran into retirement. He doesnt belong mentioned with guy's like Jackson or many other ATG fighters.

Obviously, it takes some "skill', yet in Hamed's case it was more unorthodox movement because his power was great at that weight, to be a pro. Yet, the fact that he went out the way he did, speaks VOLUMES. The guy wasnt ATG or anywhere close to it.
I think you're selling The Prince short here. Naz did a lot for the lower wieght classes love him or hate him, he brought attention to that class like no one has since. The Prince is what he is, a good undorthodox fighter with a hell of a punch and good defense but in the end he was good for boxing.

C Money
06-18-2007, 07:15 PM
I think you're selling The Prince short here. Naz did a lot for the lower wieght classes love him or hate him, he brought attention to that class like no one has since. The Prince is what he is, a good undorthodox fighter with a hell of a punch and good defense but in the end he was good for boxing.


Good 4 boxing??:lol:

If you say so!!

Then again, your a PBF fan, so I'm not really suprised you'll stand up for a guy like Hamed. If you love the shit talking, ten minute ring entrances, and hyperbole bullshit?/ Then, your a Hamed fan:good


I definitely dont see that as good for Boxing, nor do i see that Boxing has missed Hamed. The real ATG's at or near his weight were MAB, Marquez, Morales, and Pac and since they fight/fought each other and rematch like true Champs and Warrior's?? Missing Hamed is POINTLESS:good How in the name of god did Hamed do anything to overshadow, accomplish, or bring more attenetion than they did???:nut

haroldinho
06-18-2007, 07:40 PM
Hamed was such a wasted talent. Great fighter to watch in his prime, though.

Jinx
06-18-2007, 07:50 PM
Barrera beat Hammed because he press him a lot.
Mayweather would not touch Hammed for the whole fight with his one punch combo.
Hammed had similar speed to PBF but much bigger KO power.

it's safe to say you've never seen PBF at 130...he had blazing hand speed at 130, with very good power and he wasn't afraid to close the show at 130...Hamed would've been destroyed by PBF...hell, Freitas, Corrales, and Casamayor all would've destroyed Hamed at 130...

knockout
06-18-2007, 08:22 PM
floyd would take him to school like marco did but 2 times worster.

Strike
06-18-2007, 08:30 PM
Lets get a few things cleared up...

1. PBF would utterly outclass Hamed, it would not even be close.

2. Hamed did NOT train for the MAB fight, and a peak Hamed who used to actually throw combinations as opposed to single bombs would have beaten MAB. Hamed used to come in off the jab from both stances and would throw fast combinations, and wait for an opening to throw a bomb. At other times he did not even look for such an opening but his natural power was too much from even a shot that was not thrown with huge intent.

3. Hamed should not even have been at featherweight. The guy started as a flyweight, he was 5ft 2.5" and as a pro decided to move up to bantamweight. He then stepped up again to super bantam and again to feather. He was constantly facing guys who were bigger and with longer reaches than him and yet his power carried. Look at Guzman in terms of a fighter not taking their power up with them, Hamed took it from Bantam to Feather as a pro and sadly became so obsessed with his own image that he stopped training at all.

4. Why do I get the distinct impression that everytime this type of thread is started it is actually by someone who hates said fighter and wants to see a lot of scorn poured upon them?

knockout
06-18-2007, 08:54 PM
ahhh Guzman is weak but with fast hands what a wanna be tyson "IMPOSTER"

Illmatic
06-18-2007, 09:10 PM
Hamed is OVERRATED because of his power. His true assesment as a fighter can be better determined by how he performed vs MAB.
Like I said, HOST of others that would have whipped Hamed as well.

Yeah, and I assess Tito by his performance against Winky, Tszyu by his performance against Hatton, De la Hoya by his performance against Sturm and JMM by his performance against Norwood.

Ring Master
06-18-2007, 09:56 PM
Hamed is listed @ 5 foot 4 1/2 inches.

PBF holds the advantage in every possibe attribute imaginable.

There is nothing that hamed could have done to win the fight, nothing.

This is not even fair or competitive.

knockout
06-18-2007, 09:59 PM
it will be a one sided beating like gatti.

Lance_Uppercut
06-18-2007, 10:01 PM
I think it would be on sided, but not like the Gatti fight. Hamed would probably play the role of the guy trying to survive.

thewoo
06-18-2007, 10:46 PM
Lets get a few things cleared up...

1. PBF would utterly outclass Hamed, it would not even be close.



agreed

2. Hamed did NOT train for the MAB fight, and a peak Hamed who used to actually throw combinations as opposed to single bombs would have beaten MAB. Hamed used to come in off the jab from both stances and would throw fast combinations, and wait for an opening to throw a bomb. At other times he did not even look for such an opening but his natural power was too much from even a shot that was not thrown with huge intent.

Please provide a reliable source for the hamed did not train statement aside from hamed himself making exuses after the loss. You would have to be the stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth to not train going into the biggest fight of your career against an elite fighter like MAB



3. Hamed should not even have been at featherweight. The guy started as a flyweight, he was 5ft 2.5" and as a pro decided to move up to bantamweight. He then stepped up again to super bantam and again to feather. He was constantly facing guys who were bigger and with longer reaches than him and yet his power carried. Look at Guzman in terms of a fighter not taking their power up with them, Hamed took it from Bantam to Feather as a pro and sadly became so obsessed with his own image that he stopped training at all.

I disagree that he should have never been at featherweight. Pacquiao started at 107, should he never have been a featherweight? Manny was just as strong as anyone at 126 if not stronger. The whole too small for a weightclass argument only applies to guys wo have to dramatically alter their behaivior and or diet to make the weight hamed never had to do either.

4. Why do I get the distinct impression that everytime this type of thread is started it is actually by someone who hates said fighter and wants to see a lot of scorn poured upon them?

Because that is usually the case.

IntentionalButt
06-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Hamed would be the proverbial knife in the gunfight.

MilesP
06-18-2007, 10:56 PM
Barrera beat Hammed because he press him a lot.
Mayweather would not touch Hammed for the whole fight with his one punch combo.
Hammed had similar speed to PBF but much bigger KO power.


as much as a Hamed fan I am, I think PBF just has the style to beat him.

Barrera didn't pressure Nas at all. He basically refused to fight him.

So in effect Nas was following MAB around the ring all night and got counterpunched and outboxed.

Marco would have gotten laid out if he had fought Nas the way he did Morales.

So the strategy that MAB employed for that fight meshes perfectly with Mayweather's style.

Of course with a big puncher like the Prince there's always a chance, but PBF would have to be considered the clear favorite here.

brooklyn1550
06-18-2007, 10:59 PM
Floyd Mayweather Wide UD

MilesP
06-18-2007, 11:05 PM
Please provide a reliable source for the hamed did not train statement aside from hamed himself making exuses after the loss. You would have to be the stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth to not train going into the biggest fight of your career against an elite fighter like MAB


Naz' shitty training is chronicled in the documentary " THE LITTLE PRINCE, THE BIG FIGHT ..." . You should watch it.

He hired a completely incompetent yes-man as his main trainer. Suarez has since then moved on to wreck the career of Acelino Freitas.

Illmatic
06-19-2007, 12:18 AM
agreed



Please provide a reliable source for the hamed did not train statement aside from hamed himself making exuses after the loss. You would have to be the stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth to not train going into the biggest fight of your career against an elite fighter like MAB



Barrera had nowhere the stature back then as he has now. He beat Bungu who at the time had a better track record at super bantam than did Barrera.

theunderdog
06-19-2007, 12:19 AM
pbf takes this fight easily

Illmatic
06-19-2007, 12:21 AM
Naz' shitty training is chronicled in the documentary " THE LITTLE PRINCE, THE BIG FIGHT ..." . You should watch it.

He hired a completely incompetent yes-man as his main trainer. Suarez has since then moved on to wreck the career of Acelino Freitas.

And Steward was terrible for him as well. He trains straight up orthodox fighters, like Lewis, Wlad, set up the 1-2, use your height, etc. He tried to make Naz just stand in front of opponents and use his power, but took a ton of punishment in doing so (his power bailed him out a couple times late in his career) b/c of...

#1. Hameds unorthodox stance let him get the leverage to throw massive bombs.

#2. Hamed is short! How can he try to box orthodox while short with short arms? He was getting outjabbed by Ingle for the middle rounds trying to use Stewards strategy. Steward was all wrong for him.

carras
06-19-2007, 12:58 AM
Barrera outboxed hamed, just imagine what floyd would to him at that weight....

planetzion
06-19-2007, 03:09 AM
pbf way to slick to be seriouslt tagged by Hamed

Stinky gloves
06-19-2007, 03:11 AM
Isn't Hamed too fast for Floyd?

Expert
06-19-2007, 03:47 AM
Good 4 boxing??:lol:

If you say so!!

Then again, your a PBF fan, so I'm not really suprised you'll stand up for a guy like Hamed. If you love the shit talking, ten minute ring entrances, and hyperbole bullshit?/ Then, your a Hamed fan:good


I definitely dont see that as good for Boxing, nor do i see that Boxing has missed Hamed. The real ATG's at or near his weight were MAB, Marquez, Morales, and Pac and since they fight/fought each other and rematch like true Champs and Warrior's?? Missing Hamed is POINTLESS:good How in the name of god did Hamed do anything to overshadow, accomplish, or bring more attenetion than they did???:nut



Naz is younger than Marquez and Barrera.

Thats why he can beat them if they fight!

Expert
06-19-2007, 03:48 AM
as much as a Hamed fan I am, I think PBF just has the style to beat him.

Barrera didn't pressure Nas at all. He basically refused to fight him.

So in effect Nas was following MAB around the ring all night and got counterpunched and outboxed.

Marco would have gotten laid out if he had fought Nas the way he did Morales.

So the strategy that MAB employed for that fight meshes perfectly with Mayweather's style.

Of course with a big puncher like the Prince there's always a chance, but PBF would have to be considered the clear favorite here.


Yes, Naz is so much better than Barrera.

JV28
06-19-2007, 05:56 AM
Isn't Hamed too fast for Floyd?

Do you smoke crack?

ThePlugInBabies
06-19-2007, 06:40 AM
Also, Naz is an idiot who ruined a man's life and doesn't seem to realise he's a has been.

is this of any relevance to this thread? or did you just see hameds name in it and decide it was a good idea to have a few cheap pops at his expense?

ThePlugInBabies
06-19-2007, 06:41 AM
Please provide a reliable source for the hamed did not train statement aside from hamed himself making exuses after the loss. You would have to be the stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth to not train going into the biggest fight of your career against an elite fighter like MAB

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IronBull
06-19-2007, 07:20 AM
I would say Hamed..

Hamed would keep swinging and look for a single power shot... BANGG!!!

Strike
06-19-2007, 07:32 AM
Please provide a reliable source for the hamed did not train statement aside from hamed himself making exuses after the loss. You would have to be the stupidest person to ever walk the face of the earth to not train going into the biggest fight of your career against an elite fighter like MAB


There is an hour long documentary that follows Hamed in the month or so before the the fight. He does nothing, in fact he laughs about MAB being stuck in the hills running whilst he is playing Playstation and getting his hair cut.

It shows him lying around all day in a penthouse with his brothers, playing computer games constantly, etc etc. He does some brief sparring but you can tell Manny Steward is getting pissed off, and again he is off to chill.

He was remarkably stupid and he paid for it.

stake501
06-19-2007, 07:49 AM
Lets get a few things cleared up...

1. PBF would utterly outclass Hamed, it would not even be close.

2. Hamed did NOT train for the MAB fight, and a peak Hamed who used to actually throw combinations as opposed to single bombs would have beaten MAB. Hamed used to come in off the jab from both stances and would throw fast combinations, and wait for an opening to throw a bomb. At other times he did not even look for such an opening but his natural power was too much from even a shot that was not thrown with huge intent.

3. Hamed should not even have been at featherweight. The guy started as a flyweight, he was 5ft 2.5" and as a pro decided to move up to bantamweight. He then stepped up again to super bantam and again to feather. He was constantly facing guys who were bigger and with longer reaches than him and yet his power carried. Look at Guzman in terms of a fighter not taking their power up with them, Hamed took it from Bantam to Feather as a pro and sadly became so obsessed with his own image that he stopped training at all.

4. Why do I get the distinct impression that everytime this type of thread is started it is actually by someone who hates said fighter and wants to see a lot of scorn poured upon them?

Post of the thread.....whilst an absolute dick, Hamed the boxer should not be judged on barerra especially in these fantasy matches. That was a steward Hamed who did not train, a prime Ingle trained Hamed was a real match for anyone from Bantam to Super feather.

Prime Hamed is imo the one who beat Robinson

Spitfire
06-19-2007, 01:39 PM
There is an hour long documentary that follows Hamed in the month or so before the the fight. He does nothing, in fact he laughs about MAB being stuck in the hills running whilst he is playing Playstation and getting his hair cut.

It shows him lying around all day in a penthouse with his brothers, playing computer games constantly, etc etc. He does some brief sparring but you can tell Manny Steward is getting pissed off, and again he is off to chill.

He was remarkably stupid and he paid for it.

I'm glad someone mentioned this. Hamed was a shell of his former self, by his own choosing I might add.

He believed his own hype, and fore-go training because he thought he could do it anyway. The fact he went 12 with Barerra while in crappy shape shows he's got real talent.

It's kinda like when you see people saying "Holmes beat Ali, who lost to Tyson" I don't care if Holmes beat a crappy Ali and I don't care that Barrera beat a crappy Hamed. It's true Hamed chose to be un-fit for the fight, but you really can't put too much stock on that one fight for the whole Hamed's career.

I'll still go with Floyd though, for the same reasons I pick Floyd over Pacman. Size, Floyd is bigger then both of these guys, AND has some of the best talent and skillset most of us have ever seen.

IntentionalButt
06-19-2007, 01:41 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Awesome analysis.

The emphatic extra G is what made it for me.

Alo2006
06-19-2007, 01:56 PM
Floyd by KO

Expert
06-19-2007, 05:08 PM
There is an hour long documentary that follows Hamed in the month or so before the the fight. He does nothing, in fact he laughs about MAB being stuck in the hills running whilst he is playing Playstation and getting his hair cut.

It shows him lying around all day in a penthouse with his brothers, playing computer games constantly, etc etc. He does some brief sparring but you can tell Manny Steward is getting pissed off, and again he is off to chill.

He was remarkably stupid and he paid for it.

Yes,, Barrera is no match for Naz,

Expert
06-19-2007, 05:08 PM
There is an hour long documentary that follows Hamed in the month or so before the the fight. He does nothing, in fact he laughs about MAB being stuck in the hills running whilst he is playing Playstation and getting his hair cut.

It shows him lying around all day in a penthouse with his brothers, playing computer games constantly, etc etc. He does some brief sparring but you can tell Manny Steward is getting pissed off, and again he is off to chill.

He was remarkably stupid and he paid for it.

Yes,, Barrera is no match for Naz, who

Expert
06-19-2007, 05:09 PM
There is an hour long documentary that follows Hamed in the month or so before the the fight. He does nothing, in fact he laughs about MAB being stuck in the hills running whilst he is playing Playstation and getting his hair cut.

It shows him lying around all day in a penthouse with his brothers, playing computer games constantly, etc etc. He does some brief sparring but you can tell Manny Steward is getting pissed off, and again he is off to chill.

He was remarkably stupid and he paid for it.

Yes, Barrera is no match for Naz

Vantage_West
06-19-2007, 05:38 PM
Barrera beat Hamed because his technique was far superior.


hamed beats all the pure boxers he was so hard to hit you punched if you dared becuase if you missed he would dacapitate you.

berrera won becuase he didnt respect his power and kept a high guard with alot of busy ness got close on the inside and stayed on the back foot but moved foreward and made hamed make mistakes. it wasnt better technique hamed could box but he didnt rise through the ranks like that

pbf was quick and slick but he was by far a power puncher at super feather he was a great fighter but he has somthing on his hands which was is not a corrales or a manfredy hamed was somthing out of this world do you know anyone like him before naz?
hamed may be discredited becuase he was so hated so much.

it's hard becuase pbf hasnt been hit to the chin yet hard enough to find out if he can take the power. if he is silantly ironed chinned i think hamed wins it by ud

naz 12ud

floyd wins the first 4 rounds by being so productive with the jab and outside work. gives naz fits with the lead right hand

naz knowing that he cant be boxed goes to the inside he dodges the quick jabs and combo's and after a while a left hand land on the chin and the body of floyd.

floyd won't be able to exchange in the inside becuase he isnt fighting a pressure fighter he is too far away for the jab but too close for the inside phily roll. floyd gets hit more times and loses the fight as a whle becuase of the abilty to hit but get hit by hard punches in the meanwhile

around 8-4 for naz

dangerousity
06-19-2007, 05:43 PM
Between PBF and Barrera:

Technique - PBF
Natural Skill - PBF
Power - PBF
Handspeed - PBF
Chin - Barrera, though PBF has never been stopped or SERIOUSLY hurt

So, 2+2=4 in my world. How bout yours?

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PBF hit ALOT more at 130lb which is why he has more TKO's...it wasnt anything to do with power. He has always had respectable power and hes carried that. IMO any of the bigger punchers at 130lb, if they landed that often and accurate on another B-C level fighter they are gonna get a KO...much quicker than PBF did.

joito3
06-19-2007, 06:37 PM
PBF by TKO !

Frankiej
10-15-2008, 05:47 PM
Mayweather no doubt!

Scar
10-15-2008, 05:52 PM
Mayweather by UD.

CarlesX7
10-15-2008, 05:58 PM
Mayweather would KO Hamed.

DINAMITA
10-15-2008, 05:59 PM
Who takes it?

Mayweather by landsliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide UD.

The difference in skill level is insane. Mayweather may even force a stoppage, he would be bouncing shots of Hamed's face all night long baby!

Naz doesn't have a hope in this one IMO, not a prayer.

RDJ
10-15-2008, 06:06 PM
Mayweather, easily. He's just too superior technically. Sure Hamed is awkward but he'll run into something sooner or later.

CarlesX7
10-15-2008, 06:09 PM
There should be a poll here too, I bet Floyd would have like 99%.

It's not even close.

Leif Erikson
10-15-2008, 06:10 PM
Mayweather 9 times out of 10.

But in the event that Hamed connected cleanly with a power shot, I can picture Mayweather crumpling to the canvas and failing to beat the count. It's mostly unfounded, I know, but I have a nagging feeling that his chin wouldn't stand up to much scrutiny.

tays001
10-15-2008, 07:20 PM
PBF by tko in 8. hammed was a big puncher but not on PBF's level.


That fight was suppose to come off but hammed lost to MAB.


imaginge if PBF had stuck to 130 just a few more years he could of put casa and popo's scapls on his resume and maybe even mab and EM.

thesham01
10-15-2008, 07:56 PM
would like to see this fight actually, 2 skilled boxers!

only way naz wins is a big hit on PBF, and i have a feeling as well that a big hit on PBF and we mite see him in trouble, not alot, but in trouble!

Beenie
10-15-2008, 08:05 PM
Mayweather at 130 was just amazing. I'd take him over just about anyone at that weight.

victor879
10-15-2008, 09:51 PM
Floyd takes Hamed to school before putting him out of his misery in the later rounds.

Mayweather by KO.

boxbox
10-15-2008, 09:56 PM
Floyd.. you hate Naz dont you?

Rico Spadafora
10-15-2008, 09:59 PM
PBF by KO.

Carlos Primera
10-15-2008, 10:15 PM
floyd would have destroyed hamed. too many openings mayweatherwould have capitalized on.

fitzgeraldz
10-16-2008, 12:21 AM
PBF would dominate Prince Naseem

elchivito
10-16-2008, 12:32 AM
hamed always had a penchant of coming back after getting dropped or when in serious trouble. the thing with floyd, i don't think he was a defensive minded back then as he is now. that's why i think castillo got to him the 1rst time. but anyways at 130 i think floyd takes it by wide UD.

gottagivafight
10-16-2008, 01:50 AM
NAZ. Fuck it, I'll be the lone wolf here.

socrates
10-16-2008, 01:51 AM
130 prime for prime!!

umhhhhhh unsure.

theboy_racer
10-16-2008, 02:45 AM
Hamed KO

Bill Butcher
10-16-2008, 02:51 AM
Who takes it?

Its not rocket science - if MAB can bag 8 rds vs Hamed at 126 lbs then Hamed probably doesnt even GO 8 rds vs FMJ at 130 lbs.

Mayweather by TKO, possible shutout until the TKO.

El Cepillo
10-16-2008, 05:21 AM
A prime, motivated Hamed kills Floyd

Flea Man
10-16-2008, 05:29 AM
PBF, wide points. If the PRIME Naz had fought PBF (i.e moved up) it would be 50-50. But the Naz Barrera beat would've suffered a beatdown from Floyd and lost on PTS. Unless he got a lucky punch in, as Mayweather was far more gung ho at 130.

El Cepillo
10-16-2008, 06:04 AM
Good 4 boxing??:lol:

If you say so!!

Then again, your a PBF fan, so I'm not really suprised you'll stand up for a guy like Hamed. If you love the shit talking, ten minute ring entrances, and hyperbole bullshit?/ Then, your a Hamed fan:good


I definitely dont see that as good for Boxing, nor do i see that Boxing has missed Hamed. The real ATG's at or near his weight were MAB, Marquez, Morales, and Pac and since they fight/fought each other and rematch like true Champs and Warrior's?? Missing Hamed is POINTLESS:good How in the name of god did Hamed do anything to overshadow, accomplish, or bring more attenetion than they did???:nut

Prince Naseem Hamed brought a lot of new fans to the sport, more than any of those other guys you mentioned. Hamed had major tie-ins with Adidas, released music and was a major part of popular culture. His brash and arrogant showman style made people stand up and take notice of the sport and in his prime he was untouchable, knocking his opponents out with great ease and skill.

The guy lost one time, to a prime Berrara, no shame in that, especially when Hamed by this time had lost his fighting heart and had become undiciplined and too comfortable with all the fame an money. Its a shame Prince Naz doesn't get the respect he deserves, from people who really should know better.

smiffy
10-16-2008, 06:17 AM
mayweather would win a wide decision probably because he was a special fighter but i'm sick of these match ups being used to bash fighters by posters who seemingly know nothing about the sport and have no appreciation of certain boxers. if you dont realise that hamed was a talented guy you have no business following the sport.

john b
10-16-2008, 06:45 AM
I would say floyd but by split decision because hamed would land quite few shots what would hurt floyd because he was a concussive puncher.

thesham01
10-16-2008, 07:22 AM
Prince Naseem Hamed brought a lot of new fans to the sport, more than any of those other guys you mentioned. Hamed had major tie-ins with Adidas, released music and was a major part of popular culture. His brash and arrogant showman style made people stand up and take notice of the sport and in his prime he was untouchable, knocking his opponents out with great ease and skill.

The guy lost one time, to a prime Berrara, no shame in that, especially when Hamed by this time had lost his fighting heart and had become undiciplined and too comfortable with all the fame an money. Its a shame Prince Naz doesn't get the respect he deserves, from people who really should know better.

what i will say is that a loss to a prime barrera is no shame what-so-ever, if he had any heart he would of comback, trained hard this time, maybe beaten him and got respect.
even if he lost again, and went on to dominate others, he would get respect as a world class boxer!
but, hes a pussy, so fuck him.....

The Phenom
10-16-2008, 07:36 AM
Mayweather by ud with a knockdown or two.

chuffy
10-16-2008, 07:58 AM
Mayweather easy

chuffy
10-16-2008, 07:59 AM
Mayweather by ud with a knockdown or two.

That's pretty much the way i see it to be honest :good

stevebhoy87
10-16-2008, 11:57 AM
A prime, motivated Hamed kills Floyd

:nut :nut :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I'm a big fan of prime naz but he would get a schooling if he faced floyd at 130, mayweather either shuts him out for 12 rounds or TKO's naz late

Ayatollah
10-16-2008, 11:59 AM
PBF easy UD.

albeziel
10-16-2008, 12:02 PM
Floyd wins this one, dammit why you didn't make a poll