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[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

"What Frank knows about tactics could be written on a postage stamp."

"Now Frank sounds like a jilted lover. He just slags people off in his column and can't take any criticism in return. It's a bully-boy tactic but in reality he's a wimp."


Hilarious. And true. ****** is the British version of King.

[Spider]

I bet Billy Graham and Ricky liked what they were watching with Malignaggi last night.

Malignaggi & Pacquaio in 2008 for Hatton ?

[MancMexican]

good for him

frank is definitely a 'jilted lover' lol

[Boro chris]

Although some of ******s criticisims of Hatton have merit, his columns in the Sun are propagandist shite most of the time.

[Betty Swollocks]

it's a double edged sword. Had ****** not protected Hatton for so long matching him against chumps, helping to avoid Witter and got him Tszyu at the right time....where would Hatton have been? He'd have been exposed long before he actually was, and would not have made as much cash.

[Faetter_BR]

I love this "being exposed" stuff - The guy lost to the #1 p4p fighter atm - he still have wins over Tszyko and Castillo.

As I see it ****** held Hatton back for a long time - look at how he has kept Calzaghe at home protected most of the way. Result even though Calzaghe has been champion for 10 years and unified SMW he is still getting little to no respect - and his earnings are something like 1/5 of Hattons...

[Betty Swollocks]

I love this "being exposed" stuff - The guy lost to the #1 p4p fighter atm - he still have wins over Tszyko and Castillo.

As I see it ****** held Hatton back for a long time - look at how he has kept Calzaghe at home protected most of the way. Result even though Calzaghe has been champion for 10 years and unified SMW he is still getting little to no respect - and his earnings are something like 1/5 of Hattons...

but he wasn't just exposed against Mayweather....though how many elite fighters have recently been knocked out like Hatton was? None...because Hatton ain't elite.
He was exposed against Collazo...a guy who went on to get leathered by Mosley.

the fact that neither Tszyu or Castillo have done anything since fighting Hatton lends credence to the theory they were well past their best. Basically everyone said that about Castillo well before the fight.

[Strike]

but he wasn't just exposed against Mayweather....though how many elite fighters have recently been knocked out like Hatton was? None...because Hatton ain't elite.


What a pile of crap. I guess Duran was not elite for getting Knocked out cold with one shot. I guess Lewis was not elite and DLH was not elite. Also why do people keep talking as if Hatton was sparked cold? Everyone seems to think that when he was hit with the left and went into the ring post that he was then counted out. He got up and fought on and was then dropped again and the ref rightly waved it off, but he got up before 10 on the second KD too and as such it was a TKO and he was on his feet.

[Rilz]

I bet Billy Graham and Ricky liked what they were watching with Malignaggi last night.

Malignaggi & Pacquaio in 2008 for Hatton ?


I hope so. I think he would walk through Paulie, and the fight with manny would be a barn burner if manny doesnt lose much moving up that far

[Betty Swollocks]

What a pile of crap. I guess Duran was not elite for getting Knocked out cold with one shot. I guess Lewis was not elite and DLH was not elite. Also why do people keep talking as if Hatton was sparked cold? Everyone seems to think that when he was hit with the left and went into the ring post that he was then counted out. He got up and fought on and was then dropped again and the ref rightly waved it off, but he got up before 10 on the second KD too and as such it was a TKO and he was on his feet.

of course it would be a pile of crap, if it was my only argument for him being exposed.But it's not. It's just another factor that I feel adds credence to my argument.
Mayweather hadn't put a dent in anyone for quite a while, elite opponent or not. You can harldy compare that with Tommy Hearns over haeavy handed heavies. Christ, even Hatton was mocking Mayweather's power before the fight.

[2FasT]

Hatton was exposed as not having the chin and staying power at WW against collazo let alone floyd the idea he was exposed as not being an elite fighter is just stupidity.
He is still the best LWW in the world.

[Benjiabc]

Hatton was exposed as not having the chin and staying power at WW against collazo let alone floyd the idea he was exposed as not being an elite fighter is just stupidity.
He is still the best LWW in the world.

well said. hatton will walk through paulies punches all day. he hits like a girl. hatton will pressurise him and win inside 6

[Calcium Kid]

Hatton would rape paulie:hi:

[scurlaruntings]

Hatton was exposed as not having the chin and staying power at WW against collazo let alone floyd the idea he was exposed as not being an elite fighter is just stupidity.
He is still the best LWW in the world.Of course he is.Thats why he hasnt fought Witter yet his number 2 and is now thinking about fighting Pac-Man.He needs to fight at 140 a bit more often and against the best guys in his division to be called the best at 140.And old Castillo and some guy called Urango dont really cut the cake do they.:roll:

[2FasT]

****** has one of those faces you just want to punch i'd love to see promoters fight would be hilarious seeing ****** get KTFO by Don King.

[MON]

Of course he is.Thats why he hasnt fought Witter yet his number 2 and is now thinking about fighting Pac-Man.He needs to fight at 140 a bit more often and against the best guys in his division to be called the best at 140.And old Castillo and some guy called Urango dont really cut the cake do they.:roll:

Nobody can lay claim to being better than Hatton in the LWW division.

[scurlaruntings]

Of course they cant thats why he hasnt fought Witter yet and has been avoiding him for 7 years.

[MON]

Witter should try beating someone of note and then come back to Hatton.

His biggest win is against Harris....who got starched against Maussa!

[scurlaruntings]

Yeah his already done that thats why his the number 2 in his division.

Next excuse..

[MON]

The Witter fight makes no financial sense for Hatton.

[ZippyMan]

but he wasn't just exposed against Mayweather....though how many elite fighters have recently been knocked out like Hatton was? None...because Hatton ain't elite.
He was exposed against Collazo...a guy who went on to get leathered by Mosley.

the fact that neither Tszyu or Castillo have done anything since fighting Hatton lends credence to the theory they were well past their best. Basically everyone said that about Castillo well before the fight.

What a bunch of biased bullshit. Hatton moves up to fight the p4p #1 and most likely best fighter to come around since the 50s and gets beat and now he is "exposed". Hatton had a very slim chance of winning and the shit ref made it a sure thing.

As far as Collazo, you are saying he sucks because he lost to Mosley. Not only did Collazo break his hand during the second round, Mosley is a very very good fighter. And Hatton DID BEAT COLLAZO IN THE USA!!

Get over your hate for a man who has done more in the last year than you will do in your entire lifetime. Guys like you most almost never have fought. Even in the kiddie programs.

[scurlaruntings]

The Witter fight makes no financial sense for Hatton.Hey thats a great reason why he shouldnt fight the number 2 in his divison.:roll:

[boey_jarton]

Yeah his already done that thats why his the number 2 in his division.

Next excuse..

Next excuse is that there is little American Interest in the fight with Witter and hence less money.

The witter fight is a no-win fight for him. If he wins, he will have just beaten a 'Euro bum'

[scurlaruntings]

Next excuse is that there is little American Interest in the fight with Witter and hence less money.

The witter fight is a no-win fight for him. If he wins, he will have just beaten a 'Euro bum'Who cares about Yank interest!?!? Why do you think Haye Enzo is happening? Ooo thats right because its the biggest clash since Benn Eubank and both guys realise how big a bout this is to Britain.Fuck what any yanks think this is for British bragging rights.Hatton Witter has been brewing longer than Enzo and Haye have been pro.I couldnt care less wether its a no win.Number 1 fighters fight the number 2 in order to be called the best.Thats how its ALWAYS been in boxing.So fuck the money fuck the excuses and just make the fight period.

[MON]

Hey thats a great reason why he shouldnt fight the number 2 in his divison.:roll:

Of course it is.

Hatton's fighting for money, US approval and his legacy.........Witter does nothing for all of them.

[scurlaruntings]

Of course it is.

Hatton's fighting for money, US approval and his legacy.........Witter does nothing for all of them.Of course! It makes sense now! Thank you for that stunning moment of clarity.Ricky doesnt need to fight the best guy in his division because he can fight a blown up flyweight instead and STILL call himself the best at 140lb despite not fighting his number 2! So pray tell if Ricky fights at 140 up until his retirement but only against road sweepers and cab drivers is he still the best guy at 140? I mean he could continue like that way into his 50`s if he wants and by that premise he`d still have fans like you thinking he was the dogs danglings.

[MON]

How is fighting Pac the same as fighting cab drivers? Be sensible now.

A fight against Malignaggi is a better fight for Hatton than a Witter fight in every way.

[scurlaruntings]

One minute Hatton fights at 140.Dont you think it would be nice if he actually fought guys who ARE Light welterweights?! I mean thats normally the common denominator when fighting at a desginated weight.Does a fight with a guy make more sense for 140 -against a fighter who`s never fought above 130 and made his debut at fly- than fighting his number 2? Is Hatton now going to call out everyone from fleaweight to super feather? The excuses that you drones make is utterly amazing.Witter is his number 2 on that premise alone Ricky Must fight him and none of you lemmings can see this? I suggest you watch another sport.Boxings not your forte.

[Smazz20]

How is fighting Pac the same as fighting cab drivers? Be sensible now.

A fight against Malignaggi is a better fight for Hatton than a Witter fight in every way.


No it's not. Not in anyway. Not one respectable boxing journalist would give more credit to Hatton for beating Paulie, than they would for beating his biggest rival and threat to the 140 throne. This fight is mega.

[MON]

I don't see how he can be criticised for fighting at 147, that's challenging yourself. And he can't be criticised for a non existent Pac fight.

Malignaggi's record is as good as Witter's, it's just that Witter has more fights under his belt. Look how long it took Witter to get a title!

A Malignaggi fight will interest the americans more, will make Hatton more money, will be a better name for his record and he'll be able to put on a good show whilst beating him.

[scurlaruntings]

No it's not. Not in anyway. Not one respectable boxing journalist would give more credit to Hatton for beating Paulie, than they would for beating his biggest rival and threat to the 140 throne. This fight is mega.He doesnt understand.His actually a parrots brain sat in a jar thats been taught to repeat what his read on this forum from other Hatton clones. I mean Haye Enzo makes perfect sense.But why would we want to see Witter Hatton?!?! Just incase little Ricky gets beat.

[MON]

He doesnt understand.His actually a parrots brain sat in a jar thats been taught to repeat what his read on this forum from other Hatton clones. I mean Haye Enzo makes perfect sense.But why would we want to see Witter Hatton?!?! Just incase little Ricky gets beat.

Because Enzo is the biggest fight out there for Haye.

Witter isn't the biggest fight out there for Hatton.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuur.

[scurlaruntings]

I don't see how he can be criticised for fighting at 147, that's challenging yourself. And he can't be criticised for a non existent Pac fight.

Malignaggi's record is as good as Witter's, it's just that Witter has more fights under his belt. Look how long it took Witter to get a title!

A Malignaggi fight will interest the americans more, will make Hatton more money, will be a better name for his record and he'll be able to put on a good show whilst beating him.Hmm you`ve never seen Witter fight have you.You dont know the history either do you?

Do you think Haye Enzo is interesting to the yanks? Haye could have made big cash at heavy and eliminate fighting Enzo with that same paltry excuse.But Haye has balls of iron and makes the RIGHT fights. Witter Hatton would be bigger for Britain than Haye Enzo FACT! There bout could break Benn Eubank.But your more interested in licking yank ass with these LAME excuses.Time to come out of the Matrix son.Welcome to the desert of the real.

[scurlaruntings]

Because Enzo is the biggest fight out there for Haye.

Witter isn't the biggest fight out there for Hatton.

Duuuuuuuuuuuuur.OF COURSE IT IS! THAT WHY HE CAN MAKE MORE MONEY AT HEAVYWEIGHT AND PLANNED TO GO STRAIGHT TO HEAVY AFTER BEATING MORMECK.Seriously mate go back to sleep.

[Smazz20]

I don't see how he can be criticised for fighting at 147, that's challenging yourself. And he can't be criticised for a non existent Pac fight.

Malignaggi's record is as good as Witter's, it's just that Witter has more fights under his belt. Look how long it took Witter to get a title!

A Malignaggi fight will interest the americans more, will make Hatton more money, will be a better name for his record and he'll be able to put on a good show whilst beating him.


Hatton v Witter, imo, would generate more money and interest on both sides of the Atlantic due to Witters hold on the WBC title and his recent preformance over Harris. It got the attention of Americans who now realise that Hatton isn't the only lww that England have.

They both HATE each others guts. They have for several years now. Malignaggi is just another title holder, who's market appeal has dropped after an apparently lacklusture performance last night. Malignaggi is not a bigger name than Witter at the moment. So it wouldn't look better on Hatton's resume than Witter.

Besides. All Hatton has to do is fight Witter. Then he can fight Malignaggi.

[MON]

I've seen Witter fight, he's awkward, ugly and throws 10 punches a round. Horrible fighter who makes horrible fights.

There's more money in a fight with Enzo than there is in any fight he can get at heavyweight at the moment, duuuuuur.

Haye isn't fighting for the americans yet, he's made no waves there, he still needs to make more of a dent in Britain which is why the Enzo fight makes sense.....duuuuuur.

[markbrooklyn]

Witter should try beating someone of note and then come back to Hatton.

His biggest win is against Harris....who got starched against Maussa!

Who did Maussa or Urango beat of "note" to get a fight with him? Your whole argument is flawed.

[markbrooklyn]

The Witter fight makes no financial sense for Hatton.

Who is this? Ricky HattoN? lmaoo, Like Urango made Financial sense?

[scurlaruntings]

Who did Maussa or Urango beat of "note" to get a fight with him? Your whole argument is flawed.He doesnt have one and didnt have one 2 pages back.The guys as dense as a sheet of corrugated iron. You`d get more sense from a stunted retard.

[scurlaruntings]

I've seen Witter fight, he's awkward, ugly and throws 10 punches a round. Horrible fighter who makes horrible fights.

There's more money in a fight with Enzo than there is in any fight he can get at heavyweight at the moment, duuuuuur.

Haye isn't fighting for the americans yet, he's made no waves there, he still needs to make more of a dent in Britain which is why the Enzo fight makes sense.....duuuuuur.Yup just what i thought.Clearly never saw his 14 fight KO streak. The jury rests..

Just for the record does that durrrrr at the end of every other sentance indicate your age?:think

[Smazz20]

I've seen Witter fight, he's awkward, ugly and throws 10 punches a round. Horrible fighter who makes horrible fights.

There's more money in a fight with Enzo than there is in any fight he can get at heavyweight at the moment, duuuuuur.

Haye isn't fighting for the americans yet, he's made no waves there, he still needs to make more of a dent in Britain which is why the Enzo fight makes sense.....duuuuuur.


It makes little difference at this point that Witter can be in ugly fights. Although Hatton/Urango was hardly a spectacle, was it? The point is, Witter has EARNED his shot at Hatton big time. No one can deny him his chance at proving himself to be the best fighter at 140.

no.1 v no.2 in the world. All English fight. Hated rivals. WBC and Ring magazine titles up for grabs. What more do you want.

There's nobody clamouring for a Hatton/Malignaggi fight.

[scott is cool]

****** is a dick. He held back Hatton for years, but because Hatton is a such a great fighter, even a shitty trainer can't hold you back, same goes for Calzaghe because he is a great fighter and champion he was obviously going to be recognised.

[MON]

Scurla, did you see who Witter knocked out in his 'streak'? Nobodies!! I've seen every Witter fight from N'Dou onwards.....awful!!

Smazz, unfortunately when you say 'nobody can deny him the chance'.......erm, yes they can, if Hatton wishes to deny him, he can. There is no push for Hatton to fight Witter, the english media don't care a jot for Junior. Hatton has no end of options be it against people at higher weights, lower weights or his current weight.

Urango was a warm up fight designed to make him look good to the american public.....it didn't quite work out due to illness, but that was the premise of the fight.

[o_money]

Who cares about Yank interest!?!? Why do you think Haye Enzo is happening? Ooo thats right because its the biggest clash since Benn Eubank and both guys realise how big a bout this is to Britain.Fuck what any yanks think this is for British bragging rights.Hatton Witter has been brewing longer than Enzo and Haye have been pro.I couldnt care less wether its a no win.Number 1 fighters fight the number 2 in order to be called the best.Thats how its ALWAYS been in boxing.So fuck the money fuck the excuses and just make the fight period.

fuck the money???? Hatton could make a killing in Britian of this fight. Really they'd pack one of them football stadiums and then make the rest of the country pay for it on sky sports....which garaunteed they would. And you could probably get HBO to throw in a couple of bucks too. So trust me after a malinaggi fighgt and the PAC-Man fight this fight makes the most finacial sense for hatton.

[scurlaruntings]

fuck the money???? Hatton could make a killing in Britian of this fight. Really they'd pack one of them football stadiums and then make the rest of the country pay for it on sky sports....which garaunteed they would. And you could probably get HBO to throw in a couple of bucks too. So trust me after a malinaggi fighgt and the PAC-Man fight this fight makes the most finacial sense for hatton.Have you not read what i been saying dude? I know this fight makes sense! Convince the other clones of that not me.

[scurlaruntings]

Scurla, did you see who Witter knocked out in his 'streak'? Nobodies!! I've seen every Witter fight from N'Dou onwards.....awful!!

Smazz, unfortunately when you say 'nobody can deny him the chance'.......erm, yes they can, if Hatton wishes to deny him, he can. There is no push for Hatton to fight Witter, the english media don't care a jot for Junior. Hatton has no end of options be it against people at higher weights, lower weights or his current weight.

Urango was a warm up fight designed to make him look good to the american public.....it didn't quite work out due to illness, but that was the premise of the fight.O you mean just like Hattons WORLD TIDAL WBU defences..

[Smazz20]

Scurla, did you see who Witter knocked out in his 'streak'? Nobodies!! I've seen every Witter fight from N'Dou onwards.....awful!!

Smazz, unfortunately when you say 'nobody can deny him the chance'.......erm, yes they can, if Hatton wishes to deny him, he can. There is no push for Hatton to fight Witter, the english media don't care a jot for Junior. Hatton has no end of options be it against people at higher weights, lower weights or his current weight.

Urango was a warm up fight designed to make him look good to the american public.....it didn't quite work out due to illness, but that was the premise of the fight.


Well I didn't mean it literally:D I'm simply saying that it is the BEST fight out there for Hatton. This is his perfect comeback fight. He's just after going almost 10 rounds with the worlds no.1 fighter, so it shouldn't be a scary thought to fight Witter back on home soil. A win for Hatton here would earn him tremondous appraise and reafirm his hold on the 140 division. It gives him bragging rights over Witter also.

[MON]

Dont start trying to compare.

All I'll say is, while Hatton was KOing Maussa and stopping Tszyu.....Witter was struggling against Colin Lynes!!

[Betty Swollocks]

Witter should try beating someone of note and then come back to Hatton.

His biggest win is against Harris....who got starched against Maussa!

and Hatton's biggest win is against a worn Tszyu...who got knocked senseless in his prime by Vince Phillips. His next biggest win was against a worn and smaller Castillo...who had lost multiple times.

point is you are making yet another bullshit excuse.....honestly man do you really believe all this shite you are posting? :lol: :huh

[Betty Swollocks]

What a bunch of biased bullshit. Hatton moves up to fight the p4p #1 and most likely best fighter to come around since the 50s and gets beat and now he is "exposed". Hatton had a very slim chance of winning and the shit ref made it a sure thing.

As far as Collazo, you are saying he sucks because he lost to Mosley. Not only did Collazo break his hand during the second round, Mosley is a very very good fighter. And Hatton DID BEAT COLLAZO IN THE USA!!

Get over your hate for a man who has done more in the last year than you will do in your entire lifetime. Guys like you most almost never have fought. Even in the kiddie programs.

:huh
how many times do I have to say he didn't only get exposed by PBF. I don't hate Wicky and acknowledge he's a good fighter, but he WAS badly oveerated by many.

I've never boxed....so what? That means I can't have an opinion? that sounds stupid.
You know nothing about me by the way.

[Farmboxer]

Hatton should never have fought in Vegas against Void. The ref was doing everything he could to keep him from fight his fight Vs Void, the point that was taken away was insane, esp. since the punch did not ever land, it landed on the rope. Samuel Peter lands one punch behind the head after another and gets away with it. Judges were also Void judges. Boxing should be within a neutral area. Still, Hatton is no good at 147 as was proven before. I do not like him anyway, esp. since the he cheated Tszyu.

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

Scurla, did you see who Witter knocked out in his 'streak'? Nobodies!!.


Demarcus Corley and Vivian Harris are former champs at 140...and far from washed up, but you know who was washed up? The name fighters that Hatton was fighting when he built his streak.

Oliveira
Phillips

Just to name 2.

[Mikey]

So from what I know Hatton's contract had written into it with Frank ****** a fight had to happen with Junior Witter, but still they don't go anywhere near Witter, they beat an inactive Tszyu then Hatton sacks his promoter to conquer America in turn shows Hatton as overrated imo.

Like the commentaries when Witter was fighting "Witter has boxed himself out of a Hatton fight cause he looks too good."

Hatton must hate the fact he hasn't been able to shake off Witter, Hatton was the man who said a couple of years back if Witter wants a shot win a world title. Dunno what the guy has to do to get recognition, but still he has caught the eye of Bernard Hopkins and Oscar De La Hoya now, can't be too long now he gets some very big fights. Just makes me laugh Hatton wants to fight a bum in Dublin to apease his biggest fan base.

[scurlaruntings]

Hattons not interested in his fans.If he was he`d have fought Witter already.His only interested in making money and thats why he made so many defenses of the WBU.

[Mikey]

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[Benjiabc]

Hattons not interested in his fans.If he was he`d have fought Witter already.His only interested in making money and thats why he made so many defenses of the WBU.

i cant wait until hatton finally fights witter and knocks the yorkshire twat out. just to shut you the fuck up

[scurlaruntings]

Yeah neither can i ..

[Block 117]

Of course they cant thats why he hasnt fought Witter yet and has been avoiding him for 7 years.

I don't think for one minute he is avoiding Witter because he is scared of him - if he's prepared to jump in the ring with Mayweather then anyone who thinks he's scared of Witter is being ridiculous. My guess is that he's avoiding Witter for personal reasons - that he hates him more than any of us can imagine. Now usually that's a good enough reason for someone to go all out to make the fight happen but Hatton's thinking appears to be not to let Witter have his biggest payday on the back of Hatton's name. And if that's how he feels then who are we to argue? Personally, as a Hatton fan I'd love to see the fight happen and I think it's a shame that Witter doesn't have a bigger support base because he's a very good fighter and deserves wider recognition.

There is a glimmer of hope with regards to the fight happening - Hatton's dad said the other week that he can't see it being Hatton's next fight but he can see it happening at some point in the future. So let's not get all uptight yet, and even if it doesn't happen let's drop all this ludicrous talk of Hatton running scared as it quite clearly isn't the reason that this fight has yet to happen.

[Benjiabc]

do you honestly believe it wil never happen? honestly?

[Mikey]

I think Hatton has avioded Witter for so long in hope that Witter would lose (since the Judah fight), Witter though hasn't lost, a defeat in any stage of Hatton's career was going to get Witter a lot closer, I think British demand will make the fight happen cause I cant see Witter losing any point in the near future.

[Words]

This is ridiculous, scurla in one sentence you have a go at Hatton for fighting Oliveira and Philips, and yet in the next sentence you called corley and harris Witter's toughest tests!!

Double standard?

newsflash, Vince Philips at 39 would've kicked the shit out of Harris AND Corley. Ray Oliveira was well past his best but he was a better fighter than Corley or Harris ever were. Those guys were after paydays. Harris was so shot its painful, and lets be honest anyone who loses to Carlos Maussa isn't that good to begin with.

Witter has never fought anyone as good as Kostya Tsyzu, Floyd Mayweather, Ben Tackie, Eamonn Magee or Vince Philips. Eamonn Magee would've slapped the shit out of Junior Witter back in the day. Oh I forget, he "fought" Zab Judah. I use speech marks coz there really wasn't much fighting going on, to call it a fight is an insult to boxing.

Witter only looks impressive when he's fighting bums. When he comes up against quality he fights within himself. 2 or 3 years ago he might've given Hatton a decent fight, but it would've been no more impressive for Hatton on his resume than Eamonn Magee or Vince Phillips and a step in the wrong direction.

Absolutely NO-ONE at 140lbs or lower stands a chance with Hatton. He demolishes Malinaggi, who I thought might've given Hatton problems with his quick jab and handspeed til his recent fight, he is far too physically strong for Ricardo Torres or Juan Diaz, he has too much energy and insane relentless aggression for a lazy fighter like Witter, same goes for Zab Judah. Manny Pacquaio is far too small for Hatton, and wouldn't be fast enough weighing 140lbs and wouldn't be able to take Hatton's power.

The ONLY people who beat Hatton are at 147lbs. Floyd Mayweather beat him but got made to work hard for his victory, something I have rarely seen in Mayweather's entire career. Infact I'm quite sure I heard Mayweather himself say that Ricky Hatton was his toughest fight.

Paul Williams and Oscar De La Hoya beat him coz they're too big. Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto are closer fights, Hatton may not be able to beat them both but he has the ability to give them both HELL make no mistake. And who else is there who could have him? Amir Khan?

[scurlaruntings]

39 year VP destroys Corley and Harris? The jury rests.

[Words]

yeah, without doubt. Corley was a decent fighter, but never a world champion and was outclassed every time he stepped up to world championship level. Vince Philips was old, fair enough, but he was game as fuck. He stood there with Hatton beating him senseless for 12 brutal rounds and never had any quit in him whatsoever.

I pick the Philips who fought Hatton over Demarcus Corley. A Prime Philips KO's him in under 6.

And please dont suggest that Vince Philips would've had any problem with the shell of Vivian Harris that Witter beat. Vince Phillips got beat by CARLOS MAUSSA. Y'know, the freak who can't box. Vince Phillips went in against a prime young Hatton and made a fight of it, Carlos Maussa got embarassed and nearly decapitated.

[boxingbull]

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i know this vid is old but a witter and hatton fight must happen

[Words]

Junior Witter "I will destroy you"

Ricky Hatton "based on what?"

Ricky be careful, he just knocked out Alan Temple!!!! (12-13, 4 by way of...)

[bill poster]

Hattons chin is more about stamina than anything else. He would have a hard time against Paulie but this is the fight to see how good Hatton really is. Paulie is a good technician and has a tough chin.

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

yeah, without doubt. Corley was a decent fighter, but never a world champion and was outclassed every time he stepped up to world championship level. Vince Philips was old, fair enough, but he was game as fuck. He stood there with Hatton beating him senseless for 12 brutal rounds and never had any quit in him whatsoever.

I pick the Philips who fought Hatton over Demarcus Corley. A Prime Philips KO's him in under 6.

And please dont suggest that Vince Philips would've had any problem with the shell of Vivian Harris that Witter beat. Vince Phillips got beat by CARLOS MAUSSA. Y'know, the freak who can't box. Vince Phillips went in against a prime young Hatton and made a fight of it, Carlos Maussa got embarassed and nearly decapitated.

A prime Phillips KO's Corley in 6. I can see that. But Hatton didn't fight a prime Phillips. He fought a 39-year-old SHOT version.

Hatton fought guys way past their prime or nobodies en route to his win against Tszyu, which in all honesty, reeked of home cooking based on Dave Parris's presence in the ring.

Yes, Hatton has fought the better comp, but he's been given the chance to fight Tszyu, Collazo, Castillo, PBF, etc.

Witter hasn't been given a chance in his prime to do that. Now that he's with Golden Boy, I have no doubt he'll get his shot. We will see. I just think this will be a fight that's good for boxing with the great fans the UK has.

[China_hand_Joe]

What a pile of crap. I guess Duran was not elite for getting Knocked out cold with one shot. I guess Lewis was not elite and DLH was not elite. Also why do people keep talking as if Hatton was sparked cold? Everyone seems to think that when he was hit with the left and went into the ring post that he was then counted out. He got up and fought on and was then dropped again and the ref rightly waved it off, but he got up before 10 on the second KD too and as such it was a TKO and he was on his feet.

Duran was not elite up at that weight, not because he was KO'd with one shot though, because he was generally bad.

[Words]

My point is a SHOT version of Vince Phillips is on a par with Demarcus Corley, so when I hear these Witter nuthuggers talk up his victory over Corley, then simultaneously downplay Hatton's victory over Philips, its obvious they're talking shit. Vince Philips was a beast in his day, and was good enough to hang with Hatton at his merciless best. Watching that fight I dont think Corley would've lasted the distance.

A shot Vince Philips is about as hard a test as Corley was for Junior Witter. So when people say things like "Hatton has fought bums" yeah well those BUMS are as good as the very best people on Witter's resume.

Against Colin Lynes, Alan Temple, Alan Bosworth, Lucky Sambo and Oscar Hall Junior Witter looks awesome. But against Corley, he gave away rounds and was boring as hell. Against N'Dou he dominated the first half of the fight then went to sleep in the second half. Against judah he didn't even bother fighting at all. Against Harris he had him ready to go after the 4th, but kept letting him back into the fight. This is NOT what a world class boxer does.

When Ricky Hatton beat Ben Tackie, who was much better than ANYONE Junior Witter has faced, he beat him for every second of every round, mercilessly and brutally. When he beat Phillips he did the same. When he beat Stewart it was painful to watch. When he fought Tszyu he won coz he was was relentless, aggressive and insanely determined. When did Witter ever display those sort of qualities in his entire career? He's either a) outclassed journeymen and knocked them out or b) fought sloppily against fringe world class opponents. He didn't dominate Lovermore N'Dou. Ricky Hatton would've KILLED Lovermore N'Dou.

Junior Witter is a good fighter, and he is top 5 in the division. But thats only coz the best guys in the division have fucked off to welterweight. Ricky Hatton would smash him to pieces and anyone who knows boxing ought to know that. Its only coz Hatton got beat and its flavour of the month to hate on him that people are saying something so ridiculous.

[hitman_hatton1]

Graham said: "I don't know where the rumours about Ricky ditching me came from and he is adamant they are nonsense, but he did ditch Frank ******.

and took it to the bank baby. :yep :happy :bbb :deal

[hitman_hatton1]

Junior Witter is a good fighter, and he is top 5 in the division. But thats only coz the best guys in the division have fucked off to welterweight. Ricky Hatton would smash him to pieces and anyone who knows boxing ought to know that. Its only coz Hatton got beat and its flavour of the month to hate on him that people are saying something so ridiculous.

yep.

i've always thought witter gives hatton a good fight as it goes. mainly cos of that awkward arse style of his. :yep i don't think he has enuff to beat hatton though.

hatton will be back winning next year.

mayweather was a step too far.

but he was also a step too far for fighters as good as de la hoya, corrales, castillo, judah etc. :yep

[Betty Swollocks]

This is ridiculous, scurla in one sentence you have a go at Hatton for fighting Oliveira and Philips, and yet in the next sentence you called corley and harris Witter's toughest tests!!

Double standard?

newsflash, Vince Philips at 39 would've kicked the shit out of Harris AND Corley. Ray Oliveira was well past his best but he was a better fighter than Corley or Harris ever were. Those guys were after paydays. Harris was so shot its painful, and lets be honest anyone who loses to Carlos Maussa isn't that good to begin with.

Witter has never fought anyone as good as Kostya Tsyzu, Floyd Mayweather, Ben Tackie, Eamonn Magee or Vince Philips. Eamonn Magee would've slapped the shit out of Junior Witter back in the day. Oh I forget, he "fought" Zab Judah. I use speech marks coz there really wasn't much fighting going on, to call it a fight is an insult to boxing.

Witter only looks impressive when he's fighting bums. When he comes up against quality he fights within himself. 2 or 3 years ago he might've given Hatton a decent fight, but it would've been no more impressive for Hatton on his resume than Eamonn Magee or Vince Phillips and a step in the wrong direction.

Absolutely NO-ONE at 140lbs or lower stands a chance with Hatton. He demolishes Malinaggi, who I thought might've given Hatton problems with his quick jab and handspeed til his recent fight, he is far too physically strong for Ricardo Torres or Juan Diaz, he has too much energy and insane relentless aggression for a lazy fighter like Witter, same goes for Zab Judah. Manny Pacquaio is far too small for Hatton, and wouldn't be fast enough weighing 140lbs and wouldn't be able to take Hatton's power.

The ONLY people who beat Hatton are at 147lbs. Floyd Mayweather beat him but got made to work hard for his victory, something I have rarely seen in Mayweather's entire career. Infact I'm quite sure I heard Mayweather himself say that Ricky Hatton was his toughest fight.

Paul Williams and Oscar De La Hoya beat him coz they're too big. Antonio Margarito and Miguel Cotto are closer fights, Hatton may not be able to beat them both but he has the ability to give them both HELL make no mistake. And who else is there who could have him? Amir Khan?

are you joking with all that stuff about Phillips, Corley, Harris etc?
not to mention some of the other stuff.

[scurlaruntings]

You`d get a better response from a tin of beans

[Words]

I stick by every word of it. Vince Phillips was old and past his best when he fought Hatton, but Corley and Harris were hardly prime, and Philips is a MUCH more talented fighter than those two ever were. Corley is pretty good to be honest he's a solid fringe world-class fighter, infact he's a much more consistent performer than Harris, but he was never a huge threat.

Lets face it, Ricky Hatton is LEAGUES better than Junior Witter. He's in another class entirely and always was. Scurla if they every fight I cant wait to see you eat your words over this.

[scurlaruntings]

Of course i will.Its a shame Hatton doesnt have the same belief in himself as you do .

7 years and still counting..

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Of course i will.Its a shame Hatton doesnt have the same belief in himself as you do .

7 years and still counting..

Like I said in an earlier post on this thread, I don't think a lack of belief has anything to do with this whatsoever. Hatton hates Witter for some reason and he appears determined (up to now at least - things might change yet) to punish Witter for it in his own way, ie: never to let Witter make a shit-load of money off the back of a fight with Hatton.

You may not like Hatton and I don't have a problem with that - that's your prerogative, but implying he is in any way scared of Witter after he's just fought Mayweather is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It does amuse me that the Hatton haters have to keep changing their reasons for hating on him. Before the Tszyu fight he was going to get knocked out in the first few rounds, but afterwards he'd fought a shot Tszyu and fought dirty throughout. Then it moved on to him being a hometown fighter who would never fight in the States and would only have Dave Parris or Micky Vann reffing his fights. Once he moved across the pond to explode that myth, we started hearing that he wasn't fighting elite fighters. The choice of Castillo seemed to appease some of the haters but of course afterwards Castillo was shot just like Tszyu had been. When the Mayweather fight was made, the haters really were struggling for excuses - funnily enough, this is probably when they came up with the most sensible judgement yet, and that was that Hatton simply wouldn't be good enough to win. Obviously, this was proved right in the end but at least Hatton has put to bed all the other bollox about hometown fights, Hatton-friendly refs, and crap opponents. Now that he's fought the best in the world, I don't think anyone can ever accuse him of running scared from any fighter ever again.

[Betty Swollocks]

but Witter has offered him a winner takes all, he also offered to fight for very little in the past. So that bullshit excuse does not wash either.

This latest excuse makes Hatton and his fans sound desperate and pathetic...this is fucking boxing......it's a good thing there haven't been many Rikcy Hattons in the history of boxing as we'd have missed out on so many big fights.
'I don't like him so won't fight him'. you couldn't make it up, so fucking stupid.

[scurlaruntings]

Like I said in an earlier post on this thread, I don't think a lack of belief has anything to do with this whatsoever. Hatton hates Witter for some reason and he appears determined (up to now at least - things might change yet) to punish Witter for it in his own way, ie: never to let Witter make a shit-load of money off the back of a fight with Hatton.

You may not like Hatton and I don't have a problem with that - that's your prerogative, but implying he is in any way scared of Witter after he's just fought Mayweather is pretty ludicrous IMO.

It does amuse me that the Hatton haters have to keep changing their reasons for hating on him. Before the Tszyu fight he was going to get knocked out in the first few rounds, but afterwards he'd fought a shot Tszyu and fought dirty throughout. Then it moved on to him being a hometown fighter who would never fight in the States and would only have Dave Parris or Micky Vann reffing his fights. Once he moved across the pond to explode that myth, we started hearing that he wasn't fighting elite fighters. The choice of Castillo seemed to appease some of the haters but of course afterwards Castillo was shot just like Tszyu had been. When the Mayweather fight was made, the haters really were struggling for excuses - funnily enough, this is probably when they came up with the most sensible judgement yet, and that was that Hatton simply wouldn't be good enough to win. Obviously, this was proved right in the end but at least Hatton has put to bed all the other bollox about hometown fights, Hatton-friendly refs, and crap opponents. Now that he's fought the best in the world, I don't think anyone can ever accuse him of running scared from any fighter ever again.O you mean like the same way Hatton lemmings come up with a myriad of excuses as to WHY he shouldnt fight Witter? Wow he fought PBF and got beat back to 140.But tell me which fighter from 35 to 154 wouldnt fight PBF? With all that money on the line fuck id make 154 tommorow for a Mil.

[Max Molyneux]

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i know this vid is old but a witter and hatton fight must happen

The no selling tickets excuse Is crap.

Witter Ko'es Hatton, Floyd showed timing and couter punching can beat Hatton.

Witter.:happy

[scurlaruntings]

We`ve all known this for years.Why do you think ****** steered him clear of him.I mean which enormously hyped fighter would want his bubble busted by a semi-nobody.I mean little Ricky could get found out!

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but Witter has offered him a winner takes all, he also offered to fight for very little in the past. So that bullshit excuse does not wash either.

This latest excuse makes Hatton and his fans sound desperate and pathetic...this is fucking boxing......it's a good thing there haven't been many Rikcy Hattons in the history of boxing as we'd have missed out on so many big fights.
'I don't like him so won't fight him'. you couldn't make it up, so fucking stupid.

It's all well and good Witter saying that but believe you me if it got to the negotiating table there's no way Witter would be prepared to fight him for next to nothing.

By the way, I'm not making excuses - I said earlier I'd love the fight to take place and not just to shut all you haters up either lol. What I was trying to say was that something has happened between these two in the past for Hatton to not be prepared to fight him. You can't tell me it's because he's scared of Witter though. Witter is a good fighter and would cause him problems but Hatton has fought (and beaten) better fighters.

Anyway, never say never - Hatton's dad reckons it will take place at some point and if it does you'll have to move on to another excuse for hating on Hatton:good

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O you mean like the same way Hatton lemmings come up with a myriad of excuses as to WHY he shouldnt fight Witter? Wow he fought PBF and got beat back to 140.But tell me which fighter from 35 to 154 wouldnt fight PBF? With all that money on the line fuck id make 154 tommorow for a Mil.

I agree that some of the excuses that some come up with for the two of them not fighting are daft - things like Hatton needs Witter less than Witter needs Hatton, Witter does nothing for Hatton's legacy, the fight would not interest the American public, etc. I don't buy any of those - I just think he hates Witter so much that he's happy seeing him fight in front of two men and a dog in Doncaster for the rest of his days. It's a real shame because I myself want the fight to take place but it is true that Hatton doesn't have to make this fight at this time - he has plenty of other options open to him. Having said that, Witter doesn't necessarily need to fight Hatton either - perhaps he should take Hatton's lead and fight known names in the States from now on and show the American public how good a boxer he is. But that's up to his promoter to sort out surely? I've said earlier in this thread that Witter deserves far bigger public acclaim than he currently has - his destruction of Vivian Harris was worth far more column inches in the newspapers than it actually received.

[scurlaruntings]

Thats what happens when a fighter is a built for a fall.****** knew precisely what he was doing with Witter and like the bitch he is fucked his career. Mick Hennessy doesn't have half as much buying power as ******. Now that ******s former cash cow is making it big he himself is like a bitter old girlfriend thats been spurned. Witter is a dangerous commodity.Unfortunately his also a commodity with little buying power thanks to ******.If his career was promoted properly from the beginning as was Ricky's no one would be singing this tune.

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Thats what happens when a fighter is a built for a fall.****** knew precisely what he was doing with Witter and like the bitch he is fucked his career. Mick Hennessy doesn't have half as much buying power as ******. Now that ******s former cash cow is making it big he himself is like a bitter old girlfriend thats been spurned. Witter is a dangerous commodity.Unfortunately his also a commodity with little buying power thanks to ******.If his career was promoted properly from the beginning as was Ricky's no one would be singing this tune.

Well at least we're agreed on something - ******'s a cunt lol. It's a shame about Hennessy - if he had ******'s clout then Witter would deservedly be making more money for himself and a bigger name for himself too. With regards to ******'s promoting of Hatton - it was done very cleverly but if Hatton hadn't put his foot down when he did, he'd still be fighting lesser names for the WBU belt at the MEN and you can only get away with that for so long before being ridiculed - truth be told, Hatton possibly should've been fighting a better calibre of opposition a couple of years earlier than he did. ****** did secure the Tszyu fight admittedly, but seemingly only because Hatton demanded the fight be made.

[scurlaruntings]

Hatton was happy raking in the cash at the M.E.N.It was good and easy money.But in the end when he was that many fights in he knew it was time to step it up or no one would take him seriously.All those WBU defenses never should have happened it went on far to long.Hatton was light years ahead of all those cans he was bashing up.

Its more a testament to Witters skills in the ring that after being unceremoniously dumped by ****** went on to annex all domestic titles and then a world title.That was a tall order a a tough ask considering his circumstance.

[Block 117]

I'm not disagreeing with you there - Hatton was definitely happy with the situation for a good while. Thankfully, he decided to do something about it eventually. Obviously, I'm not saying everyone he's fought since has been a big name - I think he wanted to build up his stock in the States first - but chances are that he will never fight another bum fighter again.

I agree on Witter - it's taken him a long time to get where he is now and with more influential people around him, he'd have gotten there sooner. Just because I'm a Hatton fan and Hatton hates Witter, it doesn't mean I hate Witter as well. Don't get me wrong, if they did get it on in the ring I'd want Hatton to knock him out but only because I'd be supporting Hatton rather than hating Witter.

[scurlaruntings]

I'm not disagreeing with you there - Hatton was definitely happy with the situation for a good while. Thankfully, he decided to do something about it eventually. Obviously, I'm not saying everyone he's fought since has been a big name - I think he wanted to build up his stock in the States first - but chances are that he will never fight another bum fighter again.

I agree on Witter - it's taken him a long time to get where he is now and with more influential people around him, he'd have gotten there sooner. Just because I'm a Hatton fan and Hatton hates Witter, it doesn't mean I hate Witter as well. Don't get me wrong, if they did get it on in the ring I'd want Hatton to knock him out but only because I'd be supporting Hatton rather than hating Witter.Good stuff:thumbsup Subjective Hatton fans like yourself are a rare breed.Most are very neandethal like in there assumptions and views on a Witter Hatton clash.

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Good stuff:thumbsup Subjective Hatton fans like yourself are a rare breed.Most are very neandethal like in there assumptions and views on a Witter Hatton clash.

No worries. To be honest I guess I fit the nightmare profile of the casual Hatton fan (or casual boxing fan even) - I'm no expert on the sport and unlikely ever to be, and any interest I had in boxing waned when it disappeared off terrestrial TV back in the 90's. However, with Hatton coming from my hometown, supporting the same team as me, and getting shed-loads of publicity, it re-ignited my interest in the sport and to be fair I was one of those blinkered feckers who initially thought whenever he beat some tomato can or other at the MEN, that he was winning fights against reputable names. But it didn't take much digging around to realise this wasn't the case and that he desperately needed to step up the quality of opponent he was facing. Nowadays, I'll still readily admit to not possessing much knowledge of boxing but my interest in it is greater than ever before - it isn't just Hatton that interests me now. I show a keen interest in most of the domestic fighters and many of the more renowned foreign names, something which I never would've done previously.

[Benjiabc]

Good stuff:thumbsup Subjective Hatton fans like yourself are a rare breed.Most are very neandethal like in there assumptions and views on a Witter Hatton clash.

i am a big hatton fan myself. i do get sick of hearing people constantly slag him off after all he has done for british boxing. but even i have to agree that Witter wants him and if he never fights him. he will be a coward

[Words]

The no selling tickets excuse Is crap.

Witter Ko'es Hatton, Floyd showed timing and couter punching can beat Hatton.

Witter.:happy

Yeah but thats not all Floyd showed. Timing and counter-punching alone wont beat Hatton. Yu've gotta match his workrate, you've gotta outhustle him on the inside, be able to fight dirty, be able to constantly pop the jab, you've gotta never lose concentration for single second otherwise Hatton will capitalise. These are all things that Witter has weaknesses in.

Look EVERYONE wants to see this fight happen, me too, but its a pretty easy win for Hatton if you ask me.

Junior Witter is good, but he's lazy when he fights. I think his reflexes are noticable slowing and his handspeed is slowing. His workrate was never great but has got worse. He's 34, 35 right? well he's getting old, past his best. A prime Witter might've give Hatton a good fight, but Witter spent his prime fighting useless bums.

Witter - Hatton will be a re-run of Barrera - Hamed, with Hamed being Witter and Hatton being Barrera.

[Mikey]

For the record Magee ducked Witter also.

[Mikey]

I think Lazy is the wrong word to use, Witter gets negative when he believes he is winning the fight and shut out not letting his opponent anywhere near.