Pavlik to move 168 after Taylor fight!!!!!

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Calzaghe, Kessler, Bute, Mundine and Froch are doomed!!!!!!!!:admin

[Amsterdam]

All of them thrash him.

[Armo_Ruski]

yes especially bute!!! :happy pavlik ko rd 6

[Executioner]

Kessler would knock him out.

[JETSKI]

Calzaghe, Kessler, Bute, Mundine and Froch are doomed!!!!!!!!:admin

Source?...Not that I doubt it.

((((((((((((((((KELLY WILL RULE)))))))))))))))))):happy

[Armo_Ruski]

kessler has calzaghe to worry bout first..

[JETSKI]

Kessler would knock him out.

Maybe, if the tie Pavliks hands behind his back.:yep

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Source?...Not that I doubt it.

((((((((((((((((KELLY WILL RULE)))))))))))))))))):happy

I read it on boxing scene

[jc]

He beats Froch, the rest beat him imo.

[IntentionalButt]

1) this needs a link.
2) if it's true it's a TERRIBLE career move. :yep

[Decebal]

1) this needs a link.
2) if it's true it's a TERRIBLE career move. :yep

Wouldn't you move up seeing that Froch is only fighting bums, Mundine is a pussy, Bute's defense is poor, Joe is old and brittle-boned and a terrified Kessler is dodging everyone?:|

[IntentionalButt]

Wouldn't you move up seeing how poor Bute's defense was , seeing how old Joe is and how brittle his hands are, and how a terrified Kessler is dodging everyone?:|
To those three gross oversimplifications I say :patsch, :patsch, and :patsch respectively.

There's plenty of business to attend to at 160. I don't think the risk/reward ratio is going to improve much for him going up. Let him a) step up and b) clean up in his own crowded division first.

[Guru_Too_You]

To those three gross oversimplifications I say :patsch, :patsch, and :patsch respectively.

There's plenty of business to attend to at 160. I don't think the risk/reward ratio is going to improve much for him going up. Let him a) step up and b) clean up in his own crowded division first.

He obviously knows that his body cant handle it anymore then.

Obviously everyone knows that 160 is a much more glamorous division, so the only reason that he would move up is because his body cant take it.

[Decebal]

To those three gross oversimplifications I say :patsch, :patsch, and :patsch respectively.



sorry mate, I forgot to type that in SarcasTI-C type-face...:roll:

[jc]

Miranda wasnt able to knock him out and Kessler the guy who wasnt able to knock Mundine will knock Pavlik?

miranda is a very big punching middleweight, but he barely landed a punch. Kessler will land and alot of times, whos to say he couldnt get him out of there.

For example Rahman knocked out Lewis but Tua and Tyson didnt, who hit harder? :good

[jc]

I give you this one:p but Miranda has hit Pavlik a couple of time really clean and powerful punch that will send a Jermain Taylor to the canvas lol

Taylor beats both Pavlik and Miranda...:tong

[Boyd]

the supermiddle is going to be the best in boxing soon.

[Rock0052]

I think with Kelly's frame, he'll wind up at Light Heavy anyways....so why not move up after he beats the "#1 Middleweight"?

[Chileno606]

All of them thrash him.

pretty much

[tpuz]

All of them thrash him.Just like you said Miranda would do.

[Jepster]

Come on now... Kelly Pavlik is an ok boxer, but where on earth do you come of saying he will clean house at SMW. That statement is too bold and unsubstanitated, but you are of course entitled as a fan to be that enthusiastic :p


Before making such statements I would like to see him actually fight at SMW.

[IntentionalButt]

Just like you said Miranda would do.

He still could on another night.

[Mook]

how about this... winners out of Taylor vs Pavlik and Calzaghe vs Kessler face each other.

calzaghe wins both of those and a lt heavy bout vs, say, Dawson, that would be a spectacular last three fights...

[marauder1999]

Here we go again. Pavlik has said even before the miranda fight that he has a hard time making weight and needs to move up. Theres absolutely no doubt about it--after he beats taylors ass and finally shuts up some more non-believers he will then move up in weight. That has been his camps plan all along but he needed some leverage to be able to get the bigger fights and how better to have leverage than to beat taylors ass and become the champ--- then move up.

[satyriion]

Come on now... Kelly Pavlik is an ok boxer, but where on earth do you come of saying he will clean house at SMW. That statement is too bold and unsubstanitated, but you are of course entitled as a fan to be that enthusiastic :p


Before making such statements I would like to see him actually fight at SMW.

sober point

[tpuz]

how about this... winners out of Taylor vs Pavlik and Calzaghe vs Kessler face each other.

calzaghe wins both of those and a lt heavy bout vs, say, Dawson, that would be a spectacular last three fights...WOW, you can predict the future. I like your 1st line, winner out of Taylor vs. Pavlik fights the winner of Calzaghe vs. Kessler, but the rest of your statement is pretty bold to say about a 35 year old light puncher vs. 3 possible power punchers.

[El Bombasto]

Bad move by the Ghost

[BITCH ASS]

Some of you are fools.

Pavlik is for real. Kessler gets stopped. Who the fuck is Bute? Calzaghe gives him a challenge, but the fight will never materialize.

[Alo2006]

Kessler would knock him out.

No doubt! :good

[Smazz20]

I was actually only thinking to myself today about a possible fight between Froch and Pavlik.

[BITCH ASS]

No doubt! :good

How the fuck you think that?

Kessler couldn't knock out Andrade, and Kessler hit him with EVERYTHING he had.

Thing is, Pavlik actually throws punches when he comes foward. He doesn't just come straight in with his face foward not doing shit.

His workrate is in the 90s.

[Decebal]

How the fuck you think that?

Kessler couldn't knock out Andrade, and Kessler hit him with EVERYTHING he had.

Thing is, Pavlik actually throws punches when he comes foward. He doesn't just come straight in with his face foward not doing shit.

His workrate is in the 90s.

:rofl damn right...everyone knows Andrade has a china chin!...mate...stick to finance!

[BITCH ASS]

:rofl damn right...everyone knows Andrade has a china chin!...mate...stick to finance!

I didn't say he had a china chin.

But Kessler's power is overrated.

It's not in Pavlik's class. Kessler also has an incredibly limited arsenal comprised almost entirely of a 1-2.

I guess you're right though, Pavlik sucks, but if he's so garbage what will that mean for the rest of the division when he moves up and cleans up?

Then where will you be?

Besides, I forgot that Pavlik has a china chin too which is the real point.

[Decebal]

I didn't say he had a china chin.

But Kessler's power is overrated.

It's not in Pavlik's class. Kessler also has an incredibly limited arsenal comprised almost entirely of a 1-2.

I guess you're right though, Pavlik sucks, but if he's so garbage what will that mean for the rest of the division when he moves up and cleans up?

Then where will you be?

Besides, I forgot that Pavlik has a china chin too which is the real point.

Pavlik will clean nothing but his own crumpled face after the fights. Just because he swings wildly doesn't mean that Pavlik hits strong, does it?? Besides, even if he were to hit hard, given that he is relatively slow and telegraphs those punches from a mile away, he won't damage anything, but his own ego. Fortunately, though, he probabaly knows himself better than some of his fans do...I wish him all the best...

[BITCH ASS]

Pavlik will clean nothing but his own crumpled face after the fights. Just because he swings wildly doesn't mean that Pavlik hits strong, does it?? Besides, even if he were to hit hard, given that he is relatively slow and telegraphs those punches from a mile away, he won't damage anything, but his own ego. Fortunately, though, he probabaly knows himself better than some of his fans do...I wish him all the best...

Swings wildly?

Have you ever even seen him fight? Where did you come up with this analysis?

Pavlik uses his jab extremelly effectively and has an ultra crisp, hard to see, STRAIGHT right hand that he's been using to annihilate opponents.

And when you jab as hard as Pavlik does, it blinds his opponents long enough to the point to where they don't see the right hand coming.

And his speed isn't so bad when Pavlik is landing crushing shots to his opponents bodies which is what he often does, but doesn't get much credit for.

And Pavlik hits hard. When you KO people that have never been down before when they're standing up, and have just KOed a guy that many thought was a solid fighter and would beat him, and have a 90% KO percentage on top of that, I think it's safe to say he hits pretty fuckin hard.

Wouldn't you agree?

What is Kessler going to do when he gets in the ring with someone that can actually fight? Sure Andrade had heart, but that's about it. Beyer was terrified of him.

Just wait. You'll find out eventually because Kessler will look like one hell of a coward when Pavlik says that he will fly to Denmark to fight this everyday belt holder.

Anyway, I got to go.

[tpuz]

Swings wildly?

Have you ever even seen him fight? Where did you come up with this analysis?

Pavlik uses his jab extremelly effectively and has an ultra crisp, hard to see, STRAIGHT right hand that he's been using to annihilate opponents.

And when you jab as hard as Pavlik does, it blinds his opponents long enough to the point to where they don't see the right hand coming.

And his speed isn't so bad when Pavlik is landing crushing shots to his opponents bodies which is what he often does, but doesn't get much credit for.

And Pavlik hits hard. When you KO people that have never been down before when they're standing up, and have just KOed a guy that many thought was a solid fighter and would beat him, and have a 90% KO percentage on top of that, I think it's safe to say he hits pretty fuckin hard.

Wouldn't you agree?

What is Kessler going to do when he gets in the ring with someone that can actually fight? Sure Andrade had heart, but that's about it. Beyer was terrified of him.

Just wait. You'll find out eventually because Kessler will look like one hell of a coward when Pavlik says that he will fly to Denmark to fight this everyday belt holder.

Anyway, I got to go.Don't go, I enjoy reading your posts, telling them euro's the real deal.

[boxfan99]

The Pavlik hypetrain has definately started, and I'm already looking forward to see it crash and burn.:yep Who knows, maybe Taylor will do us all a favour and beat Pavlik, if not then there is a handfull of guys at 168 who will.:D

[Decebal]

Don't go, I enjoy reading your posts, telling them euro's the real deal.

Ok,:patriot let me ask you a question that will blow your mind: Will Pavlik beat Lacy?...:gsg....Yes, I know!:worm...I guess they'll have to draw, right?.... :blah

[tpuz]

Ok,:patriot let me ask you a question that will blow your mind: Will Pavlik beat Lacy?...:gsg....Yes, I know!:worm...I guess they'll have to draw, right?.... :blah:huh Pavlik will beat Lacy if they fight. I don't get your post, draw??? What do you mean?

[Decebal]

:huh Pavlik will beat Lacy if they fight. I don't get your post, draw??? What do you mean?

Is there anyone that Pavlik wouldn't beat at 160/168?:think

[tpuz]

Is there anyone that Pavlik wouldn't beat at 160/168?:thinkExactly, I agree with you!!:happy Good post Decebal!

[Decebal]

Exactly, I agree with you!!:happy Good post Decebal!

We speak the same language but we don't understand each other!...:lol:

[tpuz]

We speak the same language but we don't understand each other!...:lol:I'm just fuckin with ya.

[Decebal]

I'm just fuckin with ya.

Enjoy the fantasy!:patsch

[Vincent Gottschalk]

# 1 Slappy Joe Calzaghe is made too order for Pavlik Joe is going too stand in front Kelly and try and swarm him with his hand speed only thing Pavlik throws just as much 90 punches a round and will have to much fire power for Slappy Joe.

# 2 Mikkel Kessler has no inside game Kelly is going get inside him and tear him apart

# 3 Lucian Bute is going get out slugged and out boxed at every turn by Pavlik as Kelly does every better then Bute
:deal

[boxfan99]

We speak the same language but we don't understand each other!...:lol:

Just because he speaks English, doesn't mean that he can't have the same intelligence as a doorknob.

[boxfan99]

# 1 Slappy Joe Calzaghe is made too order for Pavlik Joe is going too stand in front Kelly and try and swarm him with his hand speed only thing Pavlik throws just as much 90 punches a round and will have to much fire power for Slappy Joe.

# 2 Mikkel Kessler has no inside game Kelly is going get inside him and tear him apart

# 3 Lucian Bute is going get out slugged and out boxed at every turn by Pavlik as Kelly does every better then Bute
:deal

Let's make it more simple, Pavlik is invincible.:roll:

[Astola]

# 1 Slappy Joe Calzaghe is made too order for Pavlik Joe is going too stand in front Kelly and try and swarm him with his hand speed only thing Pavlik throws just as much 90 punches a round and will have to much fire power for Slappy Joe.

# 2 Mikkel Kessler has no inside game Kelly is going get inside him and tear him apart

# 3 Lucian Bute is going get out slugged and out boxed at every turn by Pavlik as Kelly does every better then Bute
:deal


You know dick about boxing:deal

[fidds]

:thumbsup One thing yeah pavlik looked good against miranda yet he got caught himself a few times.

Two. joe cal is not miranda, he is a whole league above him


Three. Pavlik would be stepping up in weight :hey not always easy

[Decebal]

# 1 Slappy Joe Calzaghe is made too order for Pavlik Joe is going too stand in front Kelly and try and swarm him with his hand speed only thing Pavlik throws just as much 90 punches a round and will have to much fire power for Slappy Joe.

# 2 Mikkel Kessler has no inside game Kelly is going get inside him and tear him apart

# 3 Lucian Bute is going get out slugged and out boxed at every turn by Pavlik as Kelly does every better then Bute
:deal

I'm surprised to read such a post from a poster who has been on ESB for over 2 years, who has 1270 posts and who clearly isn't joking...:patsch

[Decebal]

Let's make it more simple, Pavlik is invincible.:roll:

I have seen a lot of hype since I started here at ESB, but never quite like the hype surrounding Pavlik! It is unreal! The guy would be truly embarassed to read some of these posts!:roll:

[tpuz]

Let's make it more simple, Pavlik is invincible.:roll:Now your getting it, you fuckin idiot.

[boxfan99]

Now your getting it, you fuckin idiot.

Yes, if I'm getting it, I must be a fucking idiot.:roll: Funny how it is nearly always the least intelligent people who are calling others for idiots, and I'm pretty sure you fit nicely into that category tpuz.;)

[Snorkel]

# 1 Slappy Joe Calzaghe is made too order for Pavlik Joe is going too stand in front Kelly and try and swarm him with his hand speed only thing Pavlik throws just as much 90 punches a round and will have to much fire power for Slappy Joe.

# 2 Mikkel Kessler has no inside game Kelly is going get inside him and tear him apart

# 3 Lucian Bute is going get out slugged and out boxed at every turn by Pavlik as Kelly does every better then Bute
:deal

#1 You're right, Calzaghe's had trouble with flat footed power punchers before, that boy Lacy gave him nightmares after all.

Honestly, if you think Joe's going to stand straight in front of the guy then you have no idea about boxing. He'll respect Pavlik's power and be showing him the kind of angles he showed Lacy. Pavlik's never been in with anybody even remotely comparable in style and skill to Calzaghe at MW, let alone at SMW. Calzaghe is no Miranda.

#2 Pavlik's hardly renowned for his inside game either; he works behind the jab too for the most part. Kessler's slicker than Pavlik, a better mover and harder to hit. He's also comfortable at SMW while Pavlik's moving up. I can see Kessler controlling him all night.

#3 Haven't seen enough of Bute to comment really.

[marauder1999]

Let's make it more simple, Pavlik is invincible.:roll:

Damn straight--about time u came to your senses.

[Decebal]

Damn straight--about time u came to your senses.

local boy done good, right?:bart

[Nawfal]

i think pavlik is over rated

[marauder1999]

Jc is not a light puncher and never has been. He's not a blaster anymore (though use to be) but he still hits with enough heft to have guys wobbling.

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[achillesthegreat]

Makes sense. He'd be undefeated at that weight, he's beaten the number one contender and then he'd have beaten the man. Given his size he probably doesn't want to keep killing himself to make weight. Plus the big fights are then at 168 in the Kessler/Calzaghe winner. They'd love to face the winner of PAvlik/Taylor. Both would be undefeated, it would spell BIG MONEY!

[deram]

Pavlik is a really good fighter and I look forward to see what the future holds for this future champ.

[psychopath]

Pavlik to move 168 after Taylor fight!!!!!

Why? Is the guy having difficulties making the weight? :roll:

If yes, then it's a logical move. Pavlik might be stronger and may perform better if he is not weight drained.

If NO, stupid career move. He needs to establish himself first in his present weight class. If he beats Taylor . . . fight a unification so that if he decides to go up in weight later on, he'll have a better credential in the negotiating table against the big names at the SMW.

[Max Molyneux]

Calzaghe and Kessler would lay the smackdown on Pavlik. Miranda was overrated shite like most Warrior boxing promoted fighters. There sore losers too.

[joe the great]

All of them thrash him.
That's what you said abot Pantera.:lol:

[larrysmith]

lol

[Fitzgerald90]

kelly pavlik v carl froch has been confirmed!

[Fitzgerald90]

and calazghe wudda smashed pavlik did u see what hopkins done to pavlik

[RustBelt]

kelly pavlik v carl froch has been confirmed!

no way!

[timagen]

and calazghe wudda smashed pavlik did u see what hopkins done to pavlik

Did you see what hopkins done to Joe?
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[Fightfan of Mtl]

sorry mate, I forgot to type that in SarcasTI-C type-face...:roll:


Hey you...I was laughing before I noticed who wrote that, than I saw you and cracked-up even more!:D

[Farmboxer]

What proof will his water be?

[ricardinho]

2 classics Pavlik vs Abraham or Pavlik vs Froch

[TMH]

What proof will his water be?

I really like the Ghost. For whatever reason, I picture him as a gangly herky-jerky sniper and a damn good one way back, but having a down the pipe, much slower and technical style against those guys in the OP. At SMW though, the whole game changes. Will be a sight to see.

[The Wanderer]

I wonder how many Pavlik fans saying here how he would rule 168 also tried to say that he lost the Hopkins fight because the weight effected him... ;)

[persianprince]

I am from the future, and Pavlik gets fucked by Bhop and Sergio Martinez who is future p4p #3