Jerry Quarry vs. Joe Louis

[Russell]

Realtivly interesting fight?

[mcvey]

Realtivly interesting fight?
Louis by tko around the 8th,his jab would bust up Jerry and his smooth combos would rock the Irishman time and again ,Quarry was a very good contender ,and had great heart ,he shone aga inst big slow moving punchers ,Louis was rather flat footed ,but his handspeed was very good,he picks apart Quarry imo.

[ChrisPontius]

Very interesting fight, i would expect many exchanges. As mcvey said, Louis has too much handspeed and power. He might be the first to really knock Quarry out.

[C. M. Clay II]

Louis beats him to the punch on the inside and KO's him in the eighth. Quarry takes a terrible beating throughout and onlty makes the first round competitive.:good

[Smokin'Moe420]

louis definitely KOs quarry but jerry makes the fight a classic

[Longhhorn71]

Louis' handspeed and accurate combination punching would slice Quarry's face up

Louis, as a champion, it is no contest.

But the Max Schmelling-Louis 1 version of Louis, Quarry has a shot.

Louis could be knocked down and Quarry has the power to put him down.

[SteveO]

If it was old washed-up Joe, Jerry would knock him out quick.

[markedwardscott]

Probably Louis but Quarry has a puncher's chance since Louis starts slow.

[Manassa]

Probably Louis but Quarry has a puncher's chance since Louis starts slow.

Since when?

[mr. magoo]

Quarry had too much of a tendency to bleed and get busted up facing some of your more technically sound punchers. I expect he would give Louis fits for about 3 or 4 rounds, but Joe takes him apart somewhere between 5-7. Quarry was awesome, but he's just out of his league here, and against a man who's style is all wrong for him.

[Manassa]

Quarry would probably land some real good shots on Louis and have us all thinking 'is he really going to do it?' He'd lose his momentum at the same time Louis grows stronger, though, and he'd get hammered. Quarry's jabs become slow, Louis' beat him. Quarry ducks, Louis uppercuts. Quarry couldn't deal with Ali's speed or Frazier's power, Louis would bring both attributes to the table and apply them in a much more dynamic way for a more clinical and spectacular finish. Quarry just couldn't continue against either of those two after taking too many shots but Louis might just knock him spark out.

[Sardu]

Quarry did not fare very well against great fighters: Ali, Frazier. Or even against very good ones: Norton, Ellis. I like Quarry but even the Louis who lost to Marciano would have beaten Quarry. Louis all the way.

[mr. magoo]

Quarry did not fare very well against great fighters: Ali, Frazier. Or even against very good ones: Norton, Ellis. I like Quarry but even the Louis who lost to Marciano would have beaten Quarry. Louis all the way.

Very good points Sardu, and I agree with you. Although, in terms of him not faring well against very good fighters, let's not forget that Quarry did indeed beat men like Shavers, Lyle, Patterson, Mathis, Foster, Bodell, Zanon and a few others who were at least ranked. While I have already posted my opinion that Louis would bust Quarry up, I do feel that some of the men who Quarry beat were as good and in some cases better than some of the men Louis defended his title against.

Just an opinion though.

[Manassa]

Quarry would probably land some real good shots on Louis and have us all thinking 'is he really going to do it?' He'd lose his momentum at the same time Louis grows stronger, though, and he'd get hammered. Quarry's jabs become slow, Louis' beat him. Quarry ducks, Louis uppercuts. Quarry couldn't deal with Ali's speed or Frazier's power, Louis would bring both attributes to the table and apply them in a much more dynamic way for a more clinical and spectacular finish. Quarry just couldn't continue against either of those two after taking too many shots but Louis might just knock him spark out.

I would expect a knockout similar to Louis' over Braddock, a ten-count KO after a bit of a beating. Quarry was durable, but then so was Galento, so was Uzcudun, so was Braddock himself; I don't believe there was a single jaw in history that Louis couldn't eventually crack.

[jowcol]

If it was old washed-up Joe, Jerry would knock him out quick.

Gee do ya think?

Did that titbit of insight just pop into your head Steve? :roll:

[kenmore]

Louis would have dominated and destroyed Quarry, with the bout probably ending in the middle rounds. Quarry however would have put on a brave, scrappy performance for as long as the fight lasted.

Louis’s left jab was as fast and straight as a light beam, and it was very powerful too. This punch would have been the dominant factor in the bout.

Joe could also throw devastating punches from any angle and from any distance. He was always perfectly balanced, and his hand speed was extraordinary. In my opinion Louis may have been the greatest heavyweight of all times. I think he is definitely the only small heavyweight who might have beaten history’s bigger guys, like Ali, Holmes, Foreman, Tyson, and Lewis. If Louis were alive today, he’d definitely make short work of the current crop of heavies, including Vladimir Klitschko.

Quarry was an excellent heavyweight at his best, with fast hands, considerable power, and impressive counterpunching and infighting ability. Quarry could also take a punch. Jerry may have floored Louis early in the bout, but Joe would have arisen to dominate the bout until its ending.

An interesting footnote to this fight is Quarry’s bout against Thad Spencer, which is on Youtube.com. Spencer’s style and size were almost exact duplicates of Joe Louis’s style and physique. There was however a vast difference in ability between Louis and Spencer.

[mr. magoo]

Gee do ya think?

Did that titbit of insight just pop into your head Steve? :roll:

I don't necessarily think that even a 1951 version of Joe Louis would lose with ease to a prime Quarry. At age 37, Louis was still very competive, though a shell of his former self. He managed to stay right around 210-213 Lbs, and defeated 8 fighters in the same year including Lee Savold and Jimmy Bivens. Against Marciano, he was clearly showing the signs of a deteriorated fighter, but took the Rock's best through 8 rounds, and even managed to win a few of them. I think its possible that a peak Quarry may have won a decision over an aging Louis in the similar way that he decisioned an aging Patterson, but I wouldn't pick him to dust an old Joe early, and even a victory for that matter is no guarantee.

[SteveO]

Gee do ya think?

Did that titbit of insight just pop into your head Steve? :roll:
No need to be snotty

[SteveO]

I don't necessarily think that even a 1951 version of Joe Louis would lose with ease to a prime Quarry. At age 37, Louis was still very competive, though a shell of his former self. He managed to stay right around 210-213 Lbs, and defeated 8 fighters in the same year including Lee Savold and Jimmy Bivens. Against Marciano, he was clearly showing the signs of a deteriorated fighter, but took the Rock's best through 8 rounds, and even managed to win a few of them. I think its possible that a peak Quarry may have won a decision over an aging Louis in the similar way that he decisioned an aging Patterson, but I wouldn't pick him to dust an old Joe early, and even a victory for that matter is no guarantee.

That is a more constuctive response. That being said, I may have been a little rash.

I would instill Quarry as the betting favorite, but rethinking and rereading, I would not pick him to be for an early KO. I amend my answer to a late stop by Quarry (prime Quarry v. washed up Joe).

Prime v. Prime I pick Joe by the 7th round.

[kenmore]

That is a more constuctive response. That being said, I may have been a little rash.

I would instill Quarry as the betting favorite, but rethinking and rereading, I would not pick him to be for an early KO. I amend my answer to a late stop by Quarry (prime Quarry v. washed up Joe).

Prime v. Prime I pick Joe by the 7th round.

I agree with you that a prime Quarry probably would have had the edge over the aging, 1951 version of Joe Louis. If you check out Louis's 1951 bouts on boxrec.com, you'll see that he failed to stop many of those foes. Those guys would not have lasted long against a younger version of Louis.

[prideofvbeach]

Quarry loses via TKO on cuts by the nine round. Still, Jerry manages a first round flash knockdown to get Joe's attention. Would have been a good fight had it happened.

[redrooster]

Quarry isnt athletic enough to compete with Joe and has a serious matchup problem. I figure this to be a lot like Frazier v. Stander with a game Quarry being outgunned and sliced to ribbons. Most likely Quarry is stopped on his feet.

[jowcol]

No need to be snotty

Sorry Steve; enough of that on board already. Just thought
it odd that you would just mention a shot-Joe - prime-Jerry scenerio.
Didn't mean to offend...:hi:

[red cobra]

Very interesting fight, i would expect many exchanges. As mcvey said, Louis has too much handspeed and power. He might be the first to really knock Quarry out.
I agree with that. Louis would have actually KO'D Quarry. Maybe not with one punch, but the actual knockout drop would have come after some sustained punishment, and it would have proven once again that you didn't play the role of the "rugged guy taking punishment" with Joe Louis. Quarry took alot of shots from Ali, Frazier, as well as Norton without going down, and that would not have happened against Louis.