Can anyone tell me about Corrie Sanders

[madjabber]

Is he a good fighter or just a plodding journey man.

Is he a decent person outside the ring or is he a douchebag.

And why has Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch with him?

[o_money]

Is he a good fighter or just a plodding journey man.

Is he a decent person outside the ring or is he a douchebag.

And why has Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch with him?


he's a better then average skill wise big man whose never really showed the type of ambission to be more then a journey man. Vitali spanked him in a pretty good fight a couple of years back and he hasn't really tried to get back into the picture. Owns a ranch in south africa, is a wicked golfer and is a pretty decent guy outside the ring. And wlad has never sought a rematch because corrie hasn't done anything since losing to vitali.

[PBF P4P #1]

he's a better then average skill wise big man whose never really showed the type of ambission to be more then a journey man. Vitali spanked him in a pretty good fight a couple of years back and he hasn't really tried to get back into the picture. Owns a ranch in south africa, is a wicked golfer and is a pretty decent guy outside the ring. And wlad has never sought a rematch because corrie hasn't done anything since losing to vitali.

he is a golf pro with power....since vitali, sanders is actually 3-0 (2 ko) with his last fight only a month and half ago....hopefully wlad works on cleaning up the division and not giving 41 year olds title shots....although what can you say about age now with Evander and McCall lurking....maybe they will meet up for the rematch in 2010.

[o_money]

he is a golf pro with power....since vitali, sanders is actually 3-0 (2 ko) with his last fight only a month and half ago....hopefully wlad works on cleaning up the division and not giving 41 year olds title shots....although what can you say about age now with Evander and McCall lurking....maybe they will meet up for the rematch in 2010.
yes, he's a golf pro. I know. and yes he's fought three bumbs in three years since losing to vitali. This is what I define as doing nothing. Sorry if I didn't check boxrec to be specific about just what kind of nothing he's been up to.


But your right. the sad part is it wouldn't take much for him to get back in the picture.

[good right hand]

i dont know if hes a threat to the heavyweight title but hes a pretty dangerous fighter if you ask me,

he is one of those fighters that will knock you out in the first four rounds if your not careful.

but

unlike the typical 4 round bombers.... his punches a straight so its hard counter, you usually have to wait out a storm like rahman or vitali

as a south paw he has these quick hands and heavy left hand

one the quickest handed fighters that i have seen in past few years for a heavy weight

but conditioning need work for him to be a real threat to contention, it was a factor against his losses to rahman and vitali.

[brooklyn1550]

Southpaw with fast hands and massive power in his straight left hand

[Amsterdam]

Southpaw with fast hands and massive power in his straight left hand

We spend too much free time on this forum.:-(

[bigd]

Is he a good fighter or just a plodding journey man.

Is he a decent person outside the ring or is he a douchebag.

And why has Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch with him? he probabley has the fastest hands in the hw division in the past 30 years or so, he is a south paw and has crippling power and is also very altheltic and skilled. he was avoided by most fighters in the 90s. his draw back is his ability to get into shape. a waste a o championship talent. even at his advanced age he could still beat any hw out there and clean out the hw division if he ever really got himself into shape and stayed into shape.

[PBF P4P #1]

yes, he's a golf pro. I know. and yes he's fought three bumbs in three years since losing to vitali. This is what I define as doing nothing. Sorry if I didn't check boxrec to be specific about just what kind of nothing he's been up to.


But your right. the sad part is it wouldn't take much for him to get back in the picture.

One of those nobody fights did have this though....
From BoxRec....
2006-11-24 : Convention Centre, Mafikeng, NWP, South Africa : Corrie Sanders beat Colin Wilson by TKO in round 2 of 10

Sanders returned to the ring after a 2 year layoff. Winning this fight he will now be put into a WBA Heavyweight title eliminator and could eventually fight Nikolay Valuev, whom Sanders has sparred with before.


Also in his Bio on there for the original post...Written before his little comeback....

In early 2003, Sanders received a call to fight Wladimir Klitschko ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) on short notice. Over ten heavyweights had rejected offers to fight Klitschko and Sanders immediately jumped at the chance. Sanders was seen as a huge underdog before the fight, due to his lack of experience at the world level and the fact that Klitschko at this time was 40-1 and seen as the heir-apparent to then-champion Lennox Lewis ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). In the first round of the fight Sanders had Klitschko down twice and nearly finished him. In the second round Sanders finished his opponent. Sanders's left hand was simply too fast and too strong for Klitschko to evade. Sanders had finally achieved his dream of winning the heavyweight title.


Following the Klitschko fight, Sanders was supposed to have a bout against Lamon Brewster ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), the WBO ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) number one heavyweight contender. Sanders refused; he wanted a big money fight instead. Sanders was then offered a shot at Roy Jones, Jr. ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) for a WBA-WBO heavyweight unification, but the WBO threatened to strip Sanders if he did this, because Jones was not among the top 10 in the WBO's ratings. Sanders finally decided to relinquish the heavyweight title, after Lennox Lewis said he was retiring. The WBC would make Sanders their number one contender to fight for the vacant title. The stage was finally set for Sanders to face the top-ranked challenger Vitali Klitschko ([Only registered and activated users can see links]).
Vitali Klitschko was coming off of an high-action bout with Lennox Lewis, and had given Lewis a tougher fight than many expected. Because of this, many people thought Klitschko would be the new heir apparent to the heavyweight title because of his close bout with Lewis. Sanders meanwhile, as stated earlier, had beaten Wladimir Klitschko and was seen to be a very live underdog. In fact, many people thought because of Sanders's destruction of Wladimir -- who was generally regarded as better than his brother Vitali -- he could easily defeat Vitali. Also, because of Wladimir's loss to Sanders, many critics decried the Klitschkos as being full of hype anyway.


Very few people expected the Klitschko-Sanders fight to be an entertaining one. Many thought that since the two were such hard hitters, whoever landed first would win. However, come fight-time, the world witnessed one of the most exciting heavyweight bouts in recent memory. The first round saw Sanders stagger Klitschko with a left hand. In round three both fighters went toe-to-toe, prompting HBO-TV commentator Larry Merchant ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) to say, "Whoa! One of the most exciting heavyweight rounds in years." After this first round Klitschko took over the rest of the fight, with close spurts of action from Sanders. Sanders was finally stopped in the eighth round by a Klitschko barrage.
Afterward, Sanders announced plans that he still wanted to fight two or three last fights; a potential opponent was Mike Tyson ([Only registered and activated users can see links]). However, Sanders would have only one more fight after the Klitschko bout before retiring in the Spring of 2005 when he injured his back in training.

[See Me Flow]

And why has Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch with him?

This is why...

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:D

[kinski]

Wasn't always an out of shape fighter. Great rugby player and excelled in track. An underacheiver.

[ralphie3082]

[Only registered and activated users can see links] I loved his ko of Wlad :happy

[BrooklynMumin]

he probabley has the fastest hands in the hw division in the past 30 years or so, he is a south paw and has crippling power and is also very altheltic and skilled. he was avoided by most fighters in the 90s. his draw back is his ability to get into shape. a waste a o championship talent. even at his advanced age he could still beat any hw out there and clean out the hw division if he ever really got himself into shape and stayed into shape.

I hope your not fucking serious!

[lzolnier]

[Only registered and activated users can see links] I loved his ko of Wlad :happy

Me too. Just a friendly reminder that Wlad is not untouchable.

[PFG]

I hope your not fucking serious!
Sanders had deceivingly fast hands. Don't judge on physique. His hands were very quick, plus he was a counter puncher and a southpaw. Honestly, Haye vs Sanders would have only one winner and that's Sanders. Wlad vs Sanders... Wlad could win if he'd fight VERY disciplined. Otherwise... it would be that fight all over again.

You only have to look at Wlad vs Sanders and Vitali vs Sanders to see that while Wlad has acomplished more, Vitali has always been the better fighter and still is. He'd beat Wladimir right now still. Because Wlad, while a great boxer, a great tactician, a power puncher, he can't handle big time pressure cookers with hard chin. And Vitali would easily neutralise that jab, he'd "paw over it".

[Jennifer Love Hewitt]

Corrie Sanders is a mythical monster based loosely on the life of a South African prizefighter. The tale is that Corrie Sanders was the fastest hardest hitting most skilled heavyweight ever. Anything he hits he destroys! But for some reason, Sanders never used his amazing ability to climb to the highest levels of boxing. He could have, but he just never really felt like it. He was more content to lounge around and play take in a game of golf. That is until one day when a young little scamper named Sir Wlad Klitschko woke up the sleeping dragon. At that moment, Sanders sprouted wings and breathed fire! (Just like Brother Nazim always talks about) And Wlad forgot his lance at home! Oh no! The dragon won and tales of his ferociousness spread across the globe. Dejected, Sir Klitschko went home to his older brother, who swore vengeance and slew the dragon Sanders.


Now for the truth... Corrie Sanders was a 'not very good' fighter with decent power who landed a nice punch and won a match against a fighter who in all honesty was/is way better than himself. It was an upset...it happens in boxing sometimes.

[Boxing Fanatic]

Man, what the heavyweights need more of.

[Capitan]

He hangs out at the local donut shop!

What else do you need to know ?

[kinski]

Was called "The sniper" By Lennox Lewis. Beat Botha 4 times in the amateurs koing 3 times?! Had a really good amateur record. and yes he had some of the fastest hands out there with good power.

[vargasfan1985]

Another wasted potential heavy who could have done something.

[steele311]

One bad ass golfer, that's who he is...

[kinski]

Heard he manhandled Nicolai in his sparring matches.

[the_brigand]

JLH --- so true it's funny.

Sanders is an underachiever and for most of his career was not very dedicated to the sport. Good guy outside the ring.
When Sanders was called to fight Wlad he was already disillusioned with Boxing and had one foot into retirement and a nice Golf career, he took the fight figuring he'd get one last last-payday to end his career with... got a little more then he bargained for. He never planned to stay in the sport passed the "Klitschko contract" (fight Wlad, rematch w/Vitali, rematch w/Wlad) and when he lost to Vitali he made good on his decision to hang 'em up.

[Lisa]

He is the only guy that seemed to shake Vitali in the ring! Tough motherfucker! I think he used to be a cop, anyone confirm this?

[Brickhaus]

I hope your not fucking serious!

He wrote that like four years ago. Who the hell knows why some idiot dredged this thread back up.

Anyway, I'm with JLH on this one. While Sanders was indeed an underachiever, he wasn't that great. Decent enough, but not particularly skilled and gassed quickly. There were a lot of aspects that made him tricky, but even if he was motivated he wouldn't have been someone who would have been some kind of dominant champion.

[Bigcat]

Good boxer puncher....quick hands and awkward..

By nature could be a bully...

No money in a rematch, compaired to the pitfalls involved..

[kinski]

Don't know everyone says he gassed early?! Need 2 c some of his earlier fights b4 u say that. Of course when he got older it changed.

[mrbassie]

Is he a good fighter or just a plodding journey man.

Closer to the latter than the former


Is he a decent person outside the ring or is he a douchebag.
No idea.


And why has Wladimir Klitschko never sought a rematch with him?

Why do you think?

[kinski]

He did go all 12 rounds with ross purrity which the younger Klitschko didn't do. Not a putdown of Wlad either just a fact.

[Brit Sillynanny]

I took the Klitschko fight at just five weeks' notice ...


Talk me through the Wladimir Klitschko fight.

Corrie Sanders: I was very confident. He didn't jab like I expected he would. I had worked hard on a plan to get close to him, to get past the jab but suddenly I had the chance to land a big punch and he went down. I give him a lot of credit - he got up and showed courage - but he was gone and I could see it in his eyes. There aren't many guys who can recover from those sort of shots, maybe three or four in the whole division (Corrie confirming that Wlad doesn't have one of the best chins in the division even though he's one of the largest heavyweights). The second knockdown (in the first round) I think could have been a knockout if not for the bell saving him. Sitting in my corner waiting for the second round, I knew I'd beaten him. He was out of the fight and it was a matter of landing a few more shots, that's all.

He was shocked, basically. He couldn't believe it. I hit him again and it was all over and let me tell you it means so much to me. The belt was important but most important was that I'd knocked out the guy who almost everyone said was the second best heavyweight in the world. He was supposed to be the guy to rule for years and years after Lennox Lewis retired and I'd beaten him in two rounds.

There were so many people who didn't believe in me, but now everyone is happy for me and supporting me. When I got back in South Africa there were all these fans waiting at the airport for me with my family. I was unbelievable that all those people took the time to wait around just to see me. I had tears in my eyes.

What's the story with Vitali Klitschko's ring rage immediately following your win?

Corrie Sanders: (sighs) Well, you know, it was my moment. I'd just won the title, beaten his brother fair and square and he comes to my corner and starts shouting it was his family's belt and that they'd take it back off me. He said he'd knock me out. I wish he hadn't done that and we had this argument in the ring. He also had an argument with Lennox after their fight - it looks as though he can't take it when things don't go his way.


I understand the champ gave you a pep talk on the eve of the Wladimir fight.

Corrie Sanders: It was great! We met for the first time when he was in South Africa for the (first) Rahman fight and was very nice to me. He telephoned me in Germany and I was so happy that the world champion took the time and effort to call the night before the biggest fight of my life. He gave me some excellent advice. Lennox told me that Wladimir doesn't like getting hit and to push him back every chance I got because he can't fight (going backwards).

How do you see a rematch with Wladimir Klitschko?

Corrie Sanders: I have a step up on him, mentally. I know he'll fight very differently the second time around. He'll be probably be a completely different fighter with a completely different approach in this fight. But the truth is he can't take my punches and, even if it takes until round seven or eight, I'll land and get to him again. I think next year is my last in boxing.



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37 years old on five weeks notice .. training on boxes of donuts and cases of beer between rounds of golf ... destroyed Wlad ... at 38 years of age - while as (un)fit as the pillsbury dough man - lands a series of straight lefts and chases a panicked flailing retreating Vitali for the last 25 seconds of the 1st round cracking him again to the right temple and as he sweeps to free himself from Vitali's attempt to hold watches him drop to the canvas .. a few more seconds and maybe 12 fewer glazed donuts and he would have had a KO of both brothers in vaporizing fashion - and as an old pudgy man.

He was decent but nowhere close to great .. same as the Klits basically - but he is the superior natural puncher by far.

[exumspate]

JLH --- so true it's funny.

Sanders is an underachiever and for most of his career was not very dedicated to the sport. Good guy outside the ring.
When Sanders was called to fight Wlad he was already disillusioned with Boxing and had one foot into retirement and a nice Golf career, he took the fight figuring he'd get one last last-payday to end his career with... got a little more then he bargained for. He never planned to stay in the sport passed the "Klitschko contract" (fight Wlad, rematch w/Vitali, rematch w/Wlad) and when he lost to Vitali he made good on his decision to hang 'em up.

A little like Buster Douglas too, in that he had everything skill and talent wise but you just never knew where his head was at and how hard he trained...He didn't prep for the Vitali fight, which pretty much tells you everything about his consistency you need to know....

[Brit Sillynanny]

He didn't prep for the Vitali fight, which pretty much tells you everything about his consistency you need to know....

Yep.

A mere twelve maybe twenty-four fewer donuts and old Corrie would have definitively demonstrated with two quick TKOs that the average athleticism of the Klits combined with their regular size advantage was enough in the lousiest era in history - but not even close to being sufficient or impressive if similarly sized but actually exceptional top athletes were participating. If rather pedestrian Corrie (with similar size) could clock them then a great athlete with similar size would annihilate them.

Inevitably great talent will return to the sport and this period known as the "war years" (when all the able bodied men competed in other sports) will be long forgotten as the sport's trough period when the pedestrian, the limited, the old, the ex-cruiser, and the unconditioned competed at the lowest level of heavyweight boxing.

[cuchulain]

Corrie Sanders is a mythical monster based loosely on the life of a South African prizefighter. The tale is that Corrie Sanders was the fastest hardest hitting most skilled heavyweight ever. Anything he hits he destroys! But for some reason, Sanders never used his amazing ability to climb to the highest levels of boxing. He could have, but he just never really felt like it. He was more content to lounge around and play take in a game of golf. That is until one day when a young little scamper named Sir Wlad Klitschko woke up the sleeping dragon. At that moment, Sanders sprouted wings and breathed fire! (Just like Brother Nazim always talks about) And Wlad forgot his lance at home! Oh no! The dragon won and tales of his ferociousness spread across the globe. Dejected, Sir Klitschko went home to his older brother, who swore vengeance and slew the dragon Sanders.


Now for the truth... Corrie Sanders was a 'not very good' fighter with decent power who landed a nice punch and won a match against a fighter who in all honesty was/is way better than himself. It was an upset...it happens in boxing sometimes.


Largely true, except for the highlighted part.

[twopiece]

A prime version of Sanders was KO'ed by Hasim Rahman and journeyman Nate Tubbs. He's quite overrated by so many people on this forum. The man is a never has been imo. He had decent handspeed and pop at best.

Corrie Sanders just wasn't afraid to go out there and check his opponents whiskers. He seems like a great guy based on his available video and text interviews, but he gets overrated a bit too much on here. He had a good career, but he's not on the ATG list.