Who should Pavlik fight after Taylor?

[Vincent Gottschalk]

Of these men

# 1 Giovanni Lorenzo
# 2 John Duddy
# 3 Sebastian Sylvester
# 4 Segio Mora
# 5 Felix Sturm
# 6 Arthur Abraham
# 7 Joe Calzaghe
# 8 Mikkel Kessler
# 9 Lucian Bute
# 10 Carl Froch

[brooklyn1550]

He should have an easier stay-busy fight against somebody like Duddy, Lorenzo, or Mora. Then he should go after Sturm and Abraham.

[psychopath]

Barring any weight problems . . . he should fight Abraham and Sturm for unification for the middle weight titles.

[cardstars]

Tune up fight with Duddy, then Bute or Abraham

[cardstars]

I think Pavlik/Abraham would end up being foty

[C HOP]

i wud love to see him fight froch , pavlik wouldnt no wht to do with straight powerfull right jabs to his face for the full 12 rounds, Froch would beat him to accurate to land on Pavliks crap defence

but i voted for Sergio Mora on tht (I want him to fight some powerfull fighter with a good Ko ratio n see if he is still good)

[Relentless]

after jermain knocks him out he can fight guys like mora and duddy.

[Vincent Gottschalk]

He should have an easier stay-busy fight against somebody like Duddy, Lorenzo, or Mora. Then he should go after Sturm and Abraham.

I think that after other war with Taylor Pavlik should fight some one who not have him in other slugfest so Mora or Sturm, boxer types would be best.
Duddy and Lorenzo are both strong bangers we would see Miranda vs Pavlik all over again great wars but I feel Pavlik might burn himself out if takes these kinds of fights back to back all the time.
Boxer puncher Abraham might be a easier fight for Pavlik then many think Abraham work rate is low and he tends to fight off the ropes alot which might doom him in a fight with Kelly:deal

[IntentionalButt]

I don't really care actually, his usefulness in my eyes expires after he disposes of HBO's wonderboy once and for all...but the top five guys on that list he could beat, and the bottom five he absolutely cannot.

[Relentless]

I don't really care actually, his usefulness in my eyes expires after he disposes of HBO's wonderboy once and for all...but the top five guys on that list he could beat, and the bottom five he absolutely cannot.

i like pavlik, he made jack presscot buy his first vanilla ice cd, but jermain taylor is going to win the rematch, i am getting that tingling feeling on the tip of my penis again.:yep

[psychopath]

i like pavlik, he made jack presscot buy his first vanilla ice cd, but jermain taylor is going to win the rematch, i am getting that tingling feeling on the tip of my penis again.:yep

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :rofl

[IntentionalButt]

i like pavlik, he made jack presscot buy his first vanilla ice cd, but jermain taylor is going to win the rematch, i am getting that tingling feeling on the tip of my penis again.:yep
How about a brutal career-ending double-KO resulting in no more hype for either ever again? :deal:deal:deal

Oh yeah, that's good...I'm nutting. You with me?

[C HOP]

Is Taylor n Pavlik moving up in weight for this 1?

[IntentionalButt]

Is Taylor n Pavlik moving up in weight for this 1?

Few pounds, yeah. Not for a title or anything. Stupid, worthless, fight IMO (if you ignore the incessant hyping of these two, it really doesn't mean a damn thing) - if the undercard weren't so good I might not even bother with it.

[JET]

He should fight JT again because Taylor is gonna beat him in the rematch. JT by SD with Pav down twice and JT down once.

[C HOP]

ahh they should hve the jones vs tito on the undercard save me from buying both of them

but he should fight joe calzaghe thts where the money would be for him really!

[Relentless]

IB, you are just a hater, is there any fighter YOU DO LIKE?

[IntentionalButt]

IB, you are just a hater, is there any fighter YOU DO LIKE?
Well if you found a well-schooled and disciplined offensive fighter, with Taylor's athletic gifts and Pavlik's mentality, I'd hug me some nutsack! :p

Off the top of my head, I adore:

Mikkel Kessler
Joe Calzaghe
Cristian Mijares
Shane Mosley
Miguel Cotto
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joan Guzman
Ricardo Mayorga *
Glen Johnson
Jesus Soto Karass
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Nate Campbell
Ike Quartey
Chad Dawson

And I guess there might be a couple others that are okay. :conf

* some for reasons other than their 'talent' - though most on my list are clearly of an impeccable skill level. :lol:

[C HOP]

Well if you found a well-schooled and disciplined offensive fighter, with Taylor's athletic gifts and Pavlik's mentality, I'd hug me some nutsack! :p

Off the top of my head, I adore:

Mikkel Kessler
Joe Calzaghe
Cristian Mijares
Shane Mosley
Miguel Cotto
Israel Vazquez
Rafael Marquez
Juan Manuel Marquez
Joan Guzman
Ricardo Mayorga *
Glen Johnson
Jesus Soto Karass
Yuriorkis Gamboa
Nate Campbell
Ike Quartey
Chad Dawson

And I guess there might be a couple others that are okay. :conf

* some for reasons other than their 'talent' - though most on my list are clearly of an impeccable skill level. :lol:

why not flyod m8? doesnt he rank above them all on impeccable skill level?

[Buddy La]

Pavlik will most likely go back down to 160. A fight with Abraham would be good, but I'm not sure if he'd want another big fight after this one. He will have already gone against Miranda and Taylor twice. A fight with anyone from 168 isn't a good idea yet because he just reached the top of 160 and his camp hasn't made any statements about weight problems. Maybe a fight with Slyvester or Mora, although Duddy is a possiblity (although I think Duddy should fight Slyvester).

[IntentionalButt]

why not flyod m8? doesnt he rank above them all on impeccable skill level?

Well I acknowledge and respect his skill and he certainly is near the top of the heap there, but that was a list of fighters I like, not necessarily the top talents in the pros today (Mayo and Johnson being dead giveaways) :lol:

Not that I dislike Floyd the way many here do, he just isn't in my top - hold on let me count - 16 - personal faves. :yep

[prideofvbeach]

Personally, Pavlik's got to take care of a mandatory first, so Lockett or Duddy will end up with their heads on the chopping block for summer. Then after that, King Arthur will be dethroned.

[C HOP]

Well I acknowledge and respect his skill and he certainly is near the top of the heap there, but that was a list of fighters I like, not necessarily the top talents in the pros today (Mayo and Johnson being dead giveaways) :lol:

Not that I dislike Floyd the way many here do, he just isn't in my top - hold on let me count - 16 - personal faves. :yep

Yea he does go on abit dont he bout how great he is, mayweather will always be a great boxer but would ya like to spend two weeks locked ina room with him......hell no! lol but ya gotta give him respect for his skills

[JETSKI]

Abraham. Start cleaning the Midwt. house. I can't see Sturm ever figthing him, though.

Then things will get even more interesting as he embarks on the 168 lb division.

[Boom_Boom]

Why would anyone want him to fight Mora

since when did Mora deserve a payday and a title shot

[sugarngold]

Winky Wright.

[tays001]

i picked duddy after that he should fight AA . it give's AA to make a name in the US to make it a Big fight

[iceman]

He should have an easier stay-busy fight against somebody like Duddy, Lorenzo, or Mora. Then he should go after Sturm and Abraham.

Pavlik doesn't need to waste his time with boring sturm
Pavlik/duddy is more or less set for June and i think Pavlik/Abraham will happen at the end of 08

[Welsh Dragon]

locketts #1 wbo contender, where`s his name amongst the pile g?

[greengloves]

why the fuck should lockett even be mentioned in the same breath as him,just because hes a mandatory doesnt mean to say he deserves a fight,where is he in the boxrec rankings,like 20th or something?

who wouldnt want to see a war with duddy pavlik,two fighters who lay it all on the line fighting for the highest honour they can achieve,it would be fireworks,of course with duddy walking away with the title with a 9th round stoppage against class chinned kelly.:lol:

[cardstars]

He should fight JT again because Taylor is gonna beat him in the rematch. JT by SD with Pav down twice and JT down once.
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If JT goes down I can almost guarentee he won't be getting up :D

[Caliboxing]

If Pavlik wins and stays at 160, I wanna see him fight Abraham for the other belt. If he goes to 168, I would love to see a fight against Calzaghe or Kessler.

[cardstars]

If Pavlik wins and stays at 160, I wanna see him fight Abraham for the other belt. If he goes to 168, I would love to see a fight against Calzaghe or Kessler.

:good

Except maybe Calzaghe. Something tells me that Calzaghe would just make him look bad

[Ziggy Montana]

i like pavlik, he made jack presscot buy his first vanilla ice cd, but jermain taylor is going to win the rematch, i am getting that tingling feeling on the tip of my penis again.:yepThat tingling feeling is probably caused by your spandex trunks. :think

[Ziggy Montana]

Logically Abraham but Clazaghe would be the best payday.

[Kegsy]

Put Pavlik with Duddy in a keep busy fight on the same card with Abraham fighting someone in USA like a Giovanni Lorenzo/Sergio Mora type, with winners fighting each other later in the year.
Would build wickedly to a awesome matchup.:deal

[albeziel]

i think he should give Kessler a chance, that will be a great fight

[booradley]

There has been a lot of talk about Duddy, and that would be a big pay day for eveyone invovled, but I voted for Abraham. The guy with the goofy hat is tailor made for Pavlik. I do not agree with those who think it would be a war for at least 4 reasons:

1) There is a huge size difference. Arthur is only 5'10" and looks like he could make 154. Pavlik is over 6'2" and basically a LHW who some how manages to sweat down to 160.

2) Strength: There is no doubt in my mind that Pavlik can man handle Arthur anytime he wants to.

3) Workrate: I'm sure Abraham has had rounds that were exceptional, but most of the time he only works about 30-45 seconds out of each round. Pavlik works every minute of every round.

4) There is a lot of truth to the old adage "Styles make fights." Style wise Pavlik is Abraham's worst nightmare. Arthur spents a shit load of time in the corners and on the ropes, and that is EXACLTY where Pavlik would want him. Pavlik is at his best and most dangerous when his opponent allows him to turn the ring into a phone booth, and Arthur would volunteer for it.

Pavlik KO5 Abraham in a one sided beat down.

Boo

[cardstars]

There has been a lot of talk about Duddy, and that would be a big pay day for eveyone invovled, but I voted for Abraham. The guy with the goofy hat is tailor made for Pavlik. I do not agree with those who think it would be a war for at least 4 reasons:

1) There is a huge size difference. Arthur is only 5'10" and looks like he could make 154. Pavlik is over 6'2" and basically a LHW who some how manages to sweat down to 160.

2) Strength: There is no doubt in my mind that Pavlik can man handle Arthur anytime he wants to.

3) Workrate: I'm sure Abraham has had rounds that were exceptional, but most of the time he only works about 30-45 seconds out of each round. Pavlik works every minute of every round.

4) There is a lot of truth to the old adage "Styles make fights." Style wise Pavlik is Abraham's worst nightmare. Arthur spents a shit load of time in the corners and on the ropes, and that is EXACLTY where Pavlik would want him. Pavlik is at his best and most dangerous when his opponent allows him to turn the ring into a phone booth, and Arthur would volunteer for it.

Pavlik KO5 Abraham in a one sided beat down.

Boo

I agree with most of what you say but keep in mind that Abraham has been working on his strength training lately. He is a complete power MONSTER these days with (I believe) better one-punch power than Pavlik. If he catches Pavlik flush with that power, which is most certainly possible given Pavs defense, he can certainly put him down (and maybe for good). That being said I take Pavlik to win this fight by 8th round ko, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see Abraham get the hayemaker ko.

[booradley]

I agree with most of what you say but keep in mind that Abraham has been working on his strength training lately. He is a complete power MONSTER these days with (I believe) better one-punch power than Pavlik. If he catches Pavlik flush with that power, which is most certainly possible given Pavs defense, he can certainly put him down (and maybe for good). That being said I take Pavlik to win this fight by 8th round ko, but wouldn't be at all surprised to see Abraham get the hayemaker ko.

I suppose we have to give Abraham a punchers chance. As I've watched Kelly progress over the last few years he has looked better everytime out. He is a good student of the game who seems to get better with each fight. After the debacle in round 2 of the Taylor fight I'd bet my bottom dollar that Jack Leow has had Kelly working on his defense. So theoretically Arthur will face an even better version of Kelly than Taylor faced. That diminishes the "punchers chance" by quite a bit. Remember years ago when Tyson said "Everyone has a plan to beat Mike Tyson until I hit 'em in the mouth." I think it's a lot the same with Kelly. Opponents come in with a fight plan that makes sense, and then they get hit with a few 1-2 combos, a bunch of jabs, and a couple lead rights, and the plan goes out the window.

Boo

[cardstars]

I suppose we have to give Abraham a punchers chance. As I've watched Kelly progress over the last few years he has looked better everytime out. He is a good student of the game who seems to get better with each fight. After the debacle in round 2 of the Taylor fight I'd bet my bottom dollar that Jack Leow has had Kelly working on his defense. So theoretically Arthur will face an even better version of Kelly than Taylor faced. That diminishes the "punchers chance" by quite a bit. Remember years ago when Tyson said "Everyone has a plan to beat Mike Tyson until I hit 'em in the mouth." I think it's a lot the same with Kelly. Opponents come in with a fight plan that makes sense, and then they get hit with a few 1-2 combos, a bunch of jabs, and a couple lead rights, and the plan goes out the window.

Boo

I completely agree, and I hope he is working on defense because if he can get better in that area I don't see too many (if any) that can beat him :D

[sues2nd]

He should fight Taylor....considering he is going to lose.

[booradley]

He should fight Taylor....considering he is going to lose.

Isn't that what you said the last time?

Boo

[sues2nd]

Isn't that what you said the last time?

Boo

Taylor was up when he got stopped....and had Pavlik pretty much out in earlier in the fight. I wasnt THAT far off ya know....

[punchmaster]

I suppose we have to give Abraham a punchers chance. After the debacle in round 2 of the Taylor fight I'd bet my bottom dollar that Jack Leow has had Kelly working on his defense.

Boo


Did you and the suprisingly high number of people who are callling for JT to win the rematch, not see Pavlik stick his chin out after getting hit 5 times to prove he's a badass, then Taylor caught him with two more bombs to finally put him down. Then Kelly get's up and after the cobwebs are cleared kick's Taylor's ass for the rest of the fight minus the 5th round and leave Jermaine in a heap in the corner.

You think Kelly's gonna give up a free shot again? I think not. Unless he suddenly becomes Pernell Whittaker, JT is in trouble.

[cardstars]

Did you and the suprisingly high number of people who are callling for JT to win the rematch, not see Pavlik stick his chin out after getting hit 5 times to prove he's a badass, then Taylor caught him with two more bombs to finally put him down. Then Kelly get's up and after the cobwebs are cleared kick's Taylor's ass for the rest of the fight minus the 5th round and leave Jermaine in a heap in the corner.

You think Kelly's gonna give up a free shot again? I think not. Unless he suddenly becomes Pernell Whittaker, JT is in trouble.

Did you not notice that JT was winning EVERY ROUND on the judges cards? Who's to say that if he doesn't stand and trade the HBO boy gets the decision?
Pavlik ko10

[booradley]

Did you and the suprisingly high number of people who are callling for JT to win the rematch, not see Pavlik stick his chin out after getting hit 5 times to prove he's a badass, then Taylor caught him with two more bombs to finally put him down. Then Kelly get's up and after the cobwebs are cleared kick's Taylor's ass for the rest of the fight minus the 5th round and leave Jermaine in a heap in the corner.

You think Kelly's gonna give up a free shot again? I think not. Unless he suddenly becomes Pernell Whittaker, JT is in trouble.

Whoa buddy -- back off! I been pickin' Kelly to beat Taylor since the McKart fight! Pay Attention!!

Boo

[booradley]

Did you not notice that JT was winning EVERY ROUND on the judges cards? Who's to say that if he doesn't stand and trade the HBO boy gets the decision?
Pavlik ko10

I think HBO is done with JT. In fact I think that any bias displayed by the retards who judge fights for HBO will probably favor kelly. A tainted decision in Kelly's favor is something I DO NOT want to see. However, from what I read on Taylor's web site I think he is going to come out looking to recreate round 2 of the first fight. If that's the case, Pavlik takes him out in 5 or less.

Boo

[cardstars]

I think HBO is done with JT. In fact I think that any bias displayed by the retards who judge fights for HBO will probably favor kelly. A tainted decision in Kelly's favor is something I DO NOT want to see. However, from what I read on Taylor's web site I think he is going to come out looking to recreate round 2 of the first fight. If that's the case, Pavlik takes him out in 5 or less.

Boo

:good I have been praying to God that he doesn't try and "outbox" him for 12 rounds, I want to see another potential foty shootout

[booradley]

Taylor was up when he got stopped....and had Pavlik pretty much out in earlier in the fight. I wasnt THAT far off ya know....

Buddy -- You were off far enough for JT to have to ask if he got knocked out! When you have to ask, that's about as knocked out as the history of knocked-outness gets.

JT:nut

Pav:bbb

[Mendoza]

He should have an easier stay-busy fight against somebody like Duddy, Lorenzo, or Mora. Then he should go after Sturm and Abraham.

Pavlik seems like a rare fighter who wants to fight the best every time out. His manager might need to pull back on the reigns ever now and then.

I think Pavlik would be wise to take an easy pay day on the popular and hyped Duddy, and then go after a top rated guy.