WBC tries to strong-arm Pavlik..

[Drexl]

This is from one of Thomas Hauser's articles. He a respected & connected journalist so I don't doubt the story is true.....



After referee Steve Smoger gave Kelly Pavlik his instructions in the dressing room prior to Taylor-Pavlik, Mauricio Sulaiman came into the room. Mauricio is the son of WBC president Jose Sulaiman. In recent years, he has assumed an increasingly active role within the sanctioning body. He is now the WBC’s executive secretary and is in charge of the organization’s executive office in Mexico City.

In the dressing room, Mauricio approached veteran cornerman Miguel Diaz and told him, "If Kelly wins, I would like his trunks to present as a gift to my father." Diaz relayed the request to Mike Pavlik, who responded, "No way."

After the fight, Mauricio returned to the dressing room and renewed his request.

"Oh, man," Kelly said. "These are my trunks. Next fight, maybe; but not this one. I just won the championship in these trunks. My blood is on them."

More people were drawn into the conversation. One-on-ones followed. Some words were exchanged regarding the discretionary powers of WBC officials and their ability to make things easy or hard on WBC champions.

Mauricio Sulaiman left Boardwalk Hall with Kelly Pavlik’s bloodstained trunks.

In the wee small hours of Sunday morning, he was confronted regarding the matter and the trunks were returned.
"It was a misunderstanding," Mauricio told this writer. "I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC. When it was brought to my attention that Kelly wished to have the trunks back, I arranged quickly to return them."

Federal law states, "No officer or employee of a sanctioning organization may receive any compensation, gift, or benefit, directly or indirectly, from a boxer [other than a sanctioning fee]." Violation of this law is a crime punishable by up to one year in prison and a fine of $20,000.

When a powerful WBC official makes a request such as the one Sulaiman made of Pavlik, there’s an inherent coercive factor at work. That’s why there’s a law against it.

Craig Hamilton (the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States) estimates that Pavlik’s trunks from his championship-winning fight could be worth as much as $25,000. The WBC received a substantial sanctioning fee for Taylor-Pavlik. That should suffice for everyone’s purposes.

This isn’t the first time that Mauricio Sulaiman has made a request of this nature. One hopes it’s the last.

[jc]

I dont see a big deal, they were returned in the end.

[Drexl]

It's just the fact that he asked for a tribute to "the WBC and his father" and got it, however briefly, when he started throwing around threats about the WBC officials making life hard for Kelly.

It's not right. It's only minor but what other demands do they make that we don't hear about?

[BigBone]

Did Mauricio wash it before he gave it back? In that case he's left a good $15.000 dollars in blood in the washing machine.:rofl

[FlatNose]

If Mauricio is still tracking down sullied trunks, I have some choice Fruit of the Looms in the laundry hamper for him to sort through.:yuck

[Vantage_West]

"I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC."

oh please
:lol: :lol: :lol:

[pipe wrenched]

It's just the fact that he asked for a tribute to "the WBC and his father" and got it, however briefly, when he started throwing around threats about the WBC officials making life hard for Kelly.

It's not right. It's only minor but what other demands do they make that we don't hear about?

:deal :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:

No doubt!! Thanks for the news Drexl. Also I would think that this took away a bit of Pavlik's celebration thinking "WTF, I was just robbed of my god damn trunks!!!". At least he got them back.

[doublesuited]

Good. Take that bum's trunks. I wouldn't pay a dollar for those trunks.

[pipe wrenched]

oh please
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Ahh man you changed it! I damn near spit my drink across the room when I read your original quote "sounds like some shit the Sheriff of Notingham would say!!".

:lol: Don't know why you changed it, but I laughed like hell.:lol:

[RealIzm]

I don't think this is true.... first of all why the hell would they care about Kelly? Much less his trunks come on manI doubt anyone could make that shit up...It's apparent that the kid is a spoiled brat...It is a big deal...its one of the reasons this sport is fucked up..I'm glad this has been brought to our attention...Is it possible to post a picture of Mauricio? That way if I see him I'll be sure to beat the shit out of him, steal his shoes and offer them as a prize on this site..Shit they might be Jordans:good

[jsimps]

Kelly gave his trunks to Jim Tressel, autographed, and in a frame.

[Vantage_West]

Ahh man you changed it! I damn near spit my drink across the room when I read your original quote "sounds like some shit the Sheriff of Notingham would say!!".

:lol: Don't know why you changed it, but I laughed like hell.:lol:
well to be honest the sheriff was a servant his father wanst the king....i didnt thought it fitted.

but hey erhum

sounds like somthing the sheriff of nottingham would say!!!

:good

[Beebs]

It's punishable by jailtime, and I think that would do wonders for the world of boxing to be honest.

[maracho]

Yep I would of sued and exposed Sulaiman in a heart beat.

[Drexl]

I doubt anyone could make that shit up...It's apparent that the kid is a spoiled brat...It is a big deal...its one of the reasons this sport is fucked up..I'm glad this has been brought to our attention...Is it possible to post a picture of Mauricio? That way if I see him I'll be sure to beat the shit out of him, steal his shoes and offer them as a prize on this site..Shit they might be Jordans:good

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That's him with JMM. Probably trying to take the belt in this photo so he can sell it on ebay.:yep

[maracho]

I doubt anyone could make that shit up...It's apparent that the kid is a spoiled brat...It is a big deal...its one of the reasons this sport is fucked up..I'm glad this has been brought to our attention...Is it possible to post a picture of Mauricio? That way if I see him I'll be sure to beat the shit out of him, steal his shoes and offer them as a prize on this site..Shit they might be Jordans:good

:lol:

Oh dang this is the guy in charge of some WBC weigh ins

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[Drexl]

:lol:

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That's nice of them, but ... $140 a month?

They take 10's of 1000's of dollars from fighters for every sanctioned title fight. That's quite a lot for a "non-profit" organization don't you think? :think

[bigeddie27]

I am surprised kelly didnt tell that guy to go fuck himself. Kelly seems like the type who could give 2 shits about any organization. What did they ever do for him? he knocks people out, he dont need no paid judges or influence.

[trac209]

If Mauricio is still tracking down sullied trunks, I have some choice Fruit of the Looms in the laundry hamper for him to sort through.:yuck:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[trac209]

If Mauricio is still tracking down sullied trunks, I have some choice Fruit of the Looms in the laundry hamper for him to sort through.:yuck:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

[Mindspring]

It's just the fact that he asked for a tribute to "the WBC and his father" and got it, however briefly, when he started throwing around threats about the WBC officials making life hard for Kelly.

It's not right. It's only minor but what other demands do they make that we don't hear about?

Good post. This got some exposure, but others go on daily without notice.

[maseb]

I don't think it's true...why would the WBC care about Pavlicks who happens to be the worst boxers alive.

[Zakman]

I dont see a big deal, they were returned in the end.

Because it's EXTORTION - which is no surprise, coming from that SCUM Jose Suliaman.:fire

[Drexl]

I don't think it's true...why would the WBC care about Pavlicks who happens to be the worst boxers alive.

1) He happens to be one of their champions
2) "... Craig Hamilton (the foremost boxing memorabilia dealer in the United States) estimates that Pavlik’s trunks from his championship-winning fight could be worth as much as $25,000...."

[RealIzm]

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That's him with JMM. Probably trying to take the belt in this photo so he can sell it on ebay.:yepHe should be on every fight fans dartboard

[RealIzm]

I don't think it's true...why would the WBC care about Pavlicks who happens to be the worst boxers alive.We should be waterboarding people like you :fire

[surreal deal]

I doubt anyone could make that shit up...It's apparent that the kid is a spoiled brat...It is a big deal...its one of the reasons this sport is fucked up..I'm glad this has been brought to our attention...Is it possible to post a picture of Mauricio? That way if I see him I'll be sure to beat the shit out of him, steal his shoes and offer them as a prize on this site..Shit they might be Jordans:good
no,have a piss and shit in them and send them to sulaiman to present to his father because of your respect for his father and the WBC:good

[Drexl]

Yep I would of sued and exposed Sulaiman in a heart beat.

That's probably what Pavlik's team had to say to get the trunks back.

[kirk]

I ponder how some dont see this as a big deal...

IF true, which i have no way of knowing if it is or not.... a powerful figurehead tried, and DID use his power (to make things hard on the champion) to get what he wanted.

IMO they are all fucking crooks and their eradication cant come soon enough... though i know it will never happen.

Just the Ring for me...

[Drexl]

Thomas Hauser is one of the most respected journalists in the sport. He doesn't really do "sensational" stories for the sake of it and this story was just tacked to the end of his article about the fight, so I have no doubt it's true.

If it was made up they would have made more out of it, but it doensn't even have it's own headline.


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[Unchained]

Good. Take that bum's trunks. I wouldn't pay a dollar for those trunks.

I bet you would give up your piggie bank for JT's soiled linens.:rofl

[maracho]

That's nice of them, but ... $140 a month?

They take 10's of 1000's of dollars from fighters for every sanctioned title fight. That's quite a lot for a "non-profit" organization don't you think? :think

:-( hmm yeah I guese I shouldnt of delted my original assumption:cool:

[sthomas]

Wanting a champs used trunks? The fettishes people have these days. Gotta be some kinda a law against that? :huh

[theunderdog]

grown men fighting over dirty trunks. funny shit

[Drexl]

Following on from the "Trunks" story, Thomas Hauser did this follow-up article.....






Last September, I reported on events that occurred in Kelly Pavlik’s dressing room on the night he fought Jermain Taylor for the first time. In so doing, I recounted how Mauricio Sulaiman (World Boxing Council executive secretary and the son of WBC president Jose Sulaiman) sought to acquire the bloodstained trunks that Pavlik had worn in the fight. Mauricio left the dressing room with the trunks in hand. Later, he was confronted regarding the matter and the trunks were returned.
"It was a misunderstanding," Mauricio said afterward. "I was led to believe that Kelly wanted the trunks to be presented as a gift to my father because of his respect for my father and the WBC. When it was brought to my attention that Kelly wished to have the trunks back, I arranged quickly to return them."

Boxing memorabilia expert Craig Hamilton estimated at the time that the trunks were worth as much as $25,000. With Pavlik-Taylor II, the WBC went directly for the cash. Even though the contract weight for the rematch was 166 pounds and no title was at stake, the WBC charged Pavlik a fee of $25,000.

The Pavlik camp was unhappy about the $25,000 charge. There was discussion in the dressing room before the fight as to whether Kelly should rip the WBC patch off his trunks or, alternatively, take a marker pen and put a dollar sign over it. Ultimately, they decided to let the patch be.

After the fight, a WBC representative visited Pavlik’s dressing room and presented him with a trophy in the form of an Aztec warrior, connoting the fact that Kelly is a true warrior. At first glance, the trophy resembles the statues that one sees selling in job-lot stores. It’s made of metal and wood with a WBC logo affixed to the base. The WBC did not respond to a request for information regarding how many of the statues are in existence, how they’re manufactured, where they’re purchased, which fighters have received them in the past, and how much they cost.

"Our $25,000 statue," one member of Team Pavlik called the trophy. Others in the dressing room were less complimentary about it.
$25,000 is a lot of money. $25,000 pays the salary of a Youngstown Police Department rookie cop for eight months. $25,000 just about covers the salary of an entry-level teacher in the Youngstown school system for a year. And $25,000 means a lot to Kelly Pavlik, who last year was doing landscape work for ten dollars an hour to make ends meet.

The WBC says the $25,000 fee was called for under its rules and regulations. Assuming the propriety of the WBC code (which is a rash assumption), it still appears as though the charge was improper.
Section 7.4(b) of the WBC Rules and Regulations states, "In the event that a WBC champion fights for another organization’s title in a higher weight class or in a lower weight class in a bout in which his WBC title is not also at stake, the champion must pay to the WBC fifty percent of the WBC sanction fee as stated herein in view of the market value brought to the bout as a result of his standing attained as a WBC champion."

But Pavlik-Taylor II was not "for another organization’s title." There was no belt at stake.

Meanwhile, although Kelly is also the World Boxing Organization middleweight champion, the WBO did not charge a fee for Pavlik-Taylor II. It’s rare that the WBO can claim the high moral ground, but it did on this one.

The WBC is a 501(c) "not-for-profit corporation" incorporated in Puerto Rico. Reliable sources say that it receives close to $3,000,000 a year in "sanctioning fees" and "bout fees" from fighters and promoters. Most of that sum comes from the United States. It would be enlightening if someone from the Ohio congressional delegation spearheaded an investigation into how this money is collected and where it goes.

[aceshigh]

He is the Middleweight champ, he should just dump both of those lame belts.

[billyconn]

I don't think it's true...why would the WBC care about Pavlicks who happens to be the worst boxers alive.

it must be internet time at the special school.....:nut

[Bubba]

Great article Drexl,

keep them coming!! :good

[marauder1999]

Good read.